Madge Maguire - Mega Thread

[gallagher]

Sack Madge and bring in John Morris as an interim coach to show his wares ... but we also need Gus to provide a "State of the club report" (and provide clear direction on how we get out of this mess we've been in for the last so many years).

We have great juniors but we cannot translate this into performance .... How many Tiger cubs are playing and succeeding at other clubs? We cannot keep them. Why?

We need Gus to tell us how Penrith did it and establish similar systems ...

Sorry to say it but Pascoe and his mates must go.

If the issue is the battle between West and Balmain then move to Perth and break the link.

Yup, it's the guys running the club.

 

[Guest]

If the issue is the battle between Wests and Balmain then move to Perth and break the link

If they move to Perth that'd be an entirely different club wouldn't it?

I can't see Wests Ashfield funding that.

 

[TrueTiger]

Not a great analogy TT but the Captain of the USS Hopper, a destroyer based at Pearl Harbour, was recently relieved of her command due to loss of confidence in her leadership. Once it is gone, there is no coming back. You think if ever WTs was to get up, Anzac day would be it
underpinned by mateship, comraderie and sacrifice.

Spare me the quotes Paws...these players have to be accountable just as the coach...I have been around long enough to realise players get the coaches sacked,they get paid big money if they cant produce go elsewhere and leave the contract behind...yeah as if....

 

[gallagher]

If the issue is the battle between Wests and Balmain then move to Perth and break the link

If they move to Perth that'd be an entirely different club wouldn't it?

I can't see Wests Ashfield funding that.

Yes, relocation isn't a option.

 

[hobbo1]

I laugh at most of you guys on here with your straight out "sack the coach"garbage because its suits your personal agenda and want to be in finals this year..

Did any of you stop and think that the effort by our young inexperienced players last week may have taken a toll on them,did you stop and think that the Manly side have 80% rep and nrl finals players in their team who also are starting to gel and are becoming a very serious threat up to finals positions,did any of you stop and think that Madge was hampered by previous signings that may not suit his coaching,did most of you stop and think that he recruited young inexperienced players with talent just learning NRL and he recruited experienced players to help them along the way to reach the top level of NRL,did most of you stop and think how much he has put into youth pathways for a better future...Hopefully most of you should stop and think that success doesnt happen overnight,but with hardwork and time this club will be a force in the not to distant future...
Yes Im disappointed, but Im not going to slit my wrists because the season has a long way to go and I will judge this coach and team at the end of THIS SEASON rather than cry sack the coach,,,overall its just a sport and game..Im going to support them even if Im down and out and I keep getting kicked in the guts by the opposition supporters...you know why...IM NOT A QUITTER,if you want to pull your membership and follow another club...go ahead and DONT LET THE DOOR HIT YOU ON THE ARSE ON THE WAY OUT....

This is Madges team ...

If your not happy Hobs ,tell Pascoe,he hired Madge to bring this club and team forward...As I said Im no quitter,I have my opinion and so do manyothers I will stick with mine ...cheers..

Who cares if your no quitter ..
What’s that got to do with the coach ?
Can’t you see the players aren’t playing for him ?
I’ve never seen players jog when the opposition team makes half a break .
He’s lost it !

So have they...pick up the pay packet WIN LOSE OR DRAW....and I dont care about your opinion if Im a quitter or not ...I love the WTS through good and bad times...sorry some on here havent the same attitude only keyboard opinions to suit their agendas...

That’s crap
You’re just twisting it to suit your narrative..
Your the one who brought up not being a quitter !
It up to Madge to sort it out ..
The ENTIRE squad are his signings except Mbye & Packer ..

Madge hasn’t evolved with the game ..
He hasn’t walked into a South’s squad on the verge of a premiership ..

This is his third season and we’ve gone backwards
Players to me ( like Brooks) seem to scared to try anything for they don’t want to be on the receiving end of the “ wrath of Madge “

 

[Bigscreentv]

Every game you see you see fundamental errors. There's so many that you can't work out the root cause of the poor performances To me the worst thing is that the players don't play with any belief. There's a few that do, but most lack confidence, don't back themselves. They look scared to make mistakes and play within themselves. Worst of all, they make the same mistakes each week.

We don't have the best squad on paper, but we sure as hell don't have the worst. With a bit more belief and some guidance we can do well, but I just don't see this coach doing it.

 

[TigerPete 0]

If the issue is the battle between Wests and Balmain then move to Perth and break the link

If they move to Perth that'd be an entirely different club wouldn't it?

I can't see Wests Ashfield funding that.

There's money in Perth to support an NRL club. They are hungry for the game ... don't need wests (they might be the problem). Perhaps Gina will come in to compete with Twiggy in the Rugger game.

 

[hobbo1]

If the issue is the battle between Wests and Balmain then move to Perth and break the link

If they move to Perth that'd be an entirely different club wouldn't it?

I can't see Wests Ashfield funding that.

Yes, relocation isn't a option.

You could host the ambush at your mansion in Perth !

 

[gallagher]

If the issue is the battle between Wests and Balmain then move to Perth and break the link

If they move to Perth that'd be an entirely different club wouldn't it?

I can't see Wests Ashfield funding that.

Yes, relocation isn't a option.

You could host the ambush at your mansion in Perth !

You can use the maids dunny....

 

[TrueTiger]

I laugh at most of you guys on here with your straight out "sack the coach"garbage because its suits your personal agenda and want to be in finals this year..

Did any of you stop and think that the effort by our young inexperienced players last week may have taken a toll on them,did you stop and think that the Manly side have 80% rep and nrl finals players in their team who also are starting to gel and are becoming a very serious threat up to finals positions,did any of you stop and think that Madge was hampered by previous signings that may not suit his coaching,did most of you stop and think that he recruited young inexperienced players with talent just learning NRL and he recruited experienced players to help them along the way to reach the top level of NRL,did most of you stop and think how much he has put into youth pathways for a better future...Hopefully most of you should stop and think that success doesnt happen overnight,but with hardwork and time this club will be a force in the not to distant future...
Yes Im disappointed, but Im not going to slit my wrists because the season has a long way to go and I will judge this coach and team at the end of THIS SEASON rather than cry sack the coach,,,overall its just a sport and game..Im going to support them even if Im down and out and I keep getting kicked in the guts by the opposition supporters...you know why...IM NOT A QUITTER,if you want to pull your membership and follow another club...go ahead and DONT LET THE DOOR HIT YOU ON THE ARSE ON THE WAY OUT....

This is Madges team ...

If your not happy Hobs ,tell Pascoe,he hired Madge to bring this club and team forward...As I said Im no quitter,I have my opinion and so do manyothers I will stick with mine ...cheers..

Who cares if your no quitter ..
What’s that got to do with the coach ?
Can’t you see the players aren’t playing for him ?
I’ve never seen players jog when the opposition team makes half a break .
He’s lost it !

So have they...pick up the pay packet WIN LOSE OR DRAW....and I dont care about your opinion if Im a quitter or not ...I love the WTS through good and bad times...sorry some on here havent the same attitude only keyboard opinions to suit their agendas...

That’s crap
You’re just twisting it to suit your narrative..
Your the one who brought up not being a quitter !
It up to Madge to sort it out ..
The ENTIRE squad are his signings except Mbye & Packer ..

Madge hasn’t evolved with the game ..
He hasn’t walked into a South’s squad on the verge of a premiership ..

This is his third season and we’ve gone backwards
Players to me ( like Brooks) seem to scared to try anything for they don’t want to be on the receiving end of the “ wrath of Madge “

Mate are they professional footballers on big money or school kids scared to play up in the playground....give me a break Hobbo,you seem to know heaps...but blaming a coach for players inabilities lies not only on him but Hartigan and Pascoe and whoever else signed the deals...
And by the way at season start everyone raved about how good recruitment was...Hartigans job....

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Not a great analogy TT but the Captain of the USS Hopper, a destroyer based at Pearl Harbour, was recently relieved of her command due to loss of confidence in her leadership. Once it is gone, there is no coming back. You think if ever WTs was to get up, Anzac day would be it
underpinned by mateship, comraderie and sacrifice.

Spare me the quotes Paws...these players have to be accountable just as the coach...I have been around long enough to realise players get the coaches sacked,they get paid big money if they cant produce go elsewhere and leave the contract behind...yeah as if....

You can see the Panther players want to play for Cleary just as you can see as plain as day our players do not want to play for Maguire. We struggle to get quality players now and your answer is tell them to go elsewhere? Do you wonder if one of the reasons we cannot attract quality players is the coach?

 

[TrueTiger]

Not a great analogy TT but the Captain of the USS Hopper, a destroyer based at Pearl Harbour, was recently relieved of her command due to loss of confidence in her leadership. Once it is gone, there is no coming back. You think if ever WTs was to get up, Anzac day would be it
underpinned by mateship, comraderie and sacrifice.

Spare me the quotes Paws...these players have to be accountable just as the coach...I have been around long enough to realise players get the coaches sacked,they get paid big money if they cant produce go elsewhere and leave the contract behind...yeah as if....

You can see the Panther players want to play for Cleary just as you can see as plain as day our players do not want to play for Maguire. We struggle to get quality players now and your answer is tell them to go elsewhere? Do you wonder if one of the reasons we cannot attract quality players is the coach?

No I dont,same as you stick up for Brooks everytime there is something neg about him...Im saying that the coach may not have a style suited to this mob but Hartigan and co signed off on the deals..Plus if you have been a diehard WTs supporter we have been through the sack JT,sack Potter ,Ivan is the greatest ...
where has that got us....Ivan got out when he knew this joint is a basket case....

 

[Bigscreentv]

Not a great analogy TT but the Captain of the USS Hopper, a destroyer based at Pearl Harbour, was recently relieved of her command due to loss of confidence in her leadership. Once it is gone, there is no coming back. You think if ever WTs was to get up, Anzac day would be it
underpinned by mateship, comraderie and sacrifice.

Spare me the quotes Paws...these players have to be accountable just as the coach...I have been around long enough to realise players get the coaches sacked,they get paid big money if they cant produce go elsewhere and leave the contract behind...yeah as if....

You can see the Panther players want to play for Cleary just as you can see as plain as day our players do not want to play for Maguire. We struggle to get quality players now and your answer is tell them to go elsewhere? Do you wonder if one of the reasons we cannot attract quality players is the coach?

I do think it's a complicated situation. Cleary has inherited a squad of winners coming through the ranks, so it's not all Madge's fault, but it takes a certain type of coach to change from a losing to a winning mentality and nurture the club's growth i.e. develop young talent, put processes in place, build a culture that fosters development etc I don't think it's Madge.

Effort and attitude only go so far. You can't put together a squad of players ( i.e. 4 props ) that don't have the physical capability to handle the set resets, then say our effort wasn't good enough and imply that they just need to learn how to control these "moments". He's setting them up to fail.

 

[hobbo1]

If the issue is the battle between Wests and Balmain then move to Perth and break the link

If they move to Perth that'd be an entirely different club wouldn't it?

I can't see Wests Ashfield funding that.

Yes, relocation isn't a option.

You could host the ambush at your mansion in Perth !

You can use the maids dunny....

Is she hot ?

 

[hobbo1]

I laugh at most of you guys on here with your straight out "sack the coach"garbage because its suits your personal agenda and want to be in finals this year..

Did any of you stop and think that the effort by our young inexperienced players last week may have taken a toll on them,did you stop and think that the Manly side have 80% rep and nrl finals players in their team who also are starting to gel and are becoming a very serious threat up to finals positions,did any of you stop and think that Madge was hampered by previous signings that may not suit his coaching,did most of you stop and think that he recruited young inexperienced players with talent just learning NRL and he recruited experienced players to help them along the way to reach the top level of NRL,did most of you stop and think how much he has put into youth pathways for a better future...Hopefully most of you should stop and think that success doesnt happen overnight,but with hardwork and time this club will be a force in the not to distant future...
Yes Im disappointed, but Im not going to slit my wrists because the season has a long way to go and I will judge this coach and team at the end of THIS SEASON rather than cry sack the coach,,,overall its just a sport and game..Im going to support them even if Im down and out and I keep getting kicked in the guts by the opposition supporters...you know why...IM NOT A QUITTER,if you want to pull your membership and follow another club...go ahead and DONT LET THE DOOR HIT YOU ON THE ARSE ON THE WAY OUT....

This is Madges team ...

If your not happy Hobs ,tell Pascoe,he hired Madge to bring this club and team forward...As I said Im no quitter,I have my opinion and so do manyothers I will stick with mine ...cheers..

Who cares if your no quitter ..
What’s that got to do with the coach ?
Can’t you see the players aren’t playing for him ?
I’ve never seen players jog when the opposition team makes half a break .
He’s lost it !

So have they...pick up the pay packet WIN LOSE OR DRAW....and I dont care about your opinion if Im a quitter or not ...I love the WTS through good and bad times...sorry some on here havent the same attitude only keyboard opinions to suit their agendas...

That’s crap
You’re just twisting it to suit your narrative..
Your the one who brought up not being a quitter !
It up to Madge to sort it out ..
The ENTIRE squad are his signings except Mbye & Packer ..

Madge hasn’t evolved with the game ..
He hasn’t walked into a South’s squad on the verge of a premiership ..

This is his third season and we’ve gone backwards
Players to me ( like Brooks) seem to scared to try anything for they don’t want to be on the receiving end of the “ wrath of Madge “

Mate are they professional footballers on big money or school kids scared to play up in the playground....give me a break Hobbo,you seem to know heaps...but blaming a coach for players inabilities lies not only on him but Hartigan and Pascoe and whoever else signed the deals...
And by the way at season start everyone raved about how good recruitment was...Hartigans job....

So you agree the coach sucks ..
See it wasn’t hard was it ?

 

[gallagher]

If the issue is the battle between Wests and Balmain then move to Perth and break the link

If they move to Perth that'd be an entirely different club wouldn't it?

I can't see Wests Ashfield funding that.

Yes, relocation isn't a option.

You could host the ambush at your mansion in Perth !

You can use the maids dunny....

Is she hot ?

She stands when she's taking a leak. Your decision

 

[hobbo1]

If the issue is the battle between Wests and Balmain then move to Perth and break the link

If they move to Perth that'd be an entirely different club wouldn't it?

I can't see Wests Ashfield funding that.

Yes, relocation isn't a option.

You could host the ambush at your mansion in Perth !

You can use the maids dunny....

Is she hot ?

She stands when she's taking a leak. Your decision

Hot ....!

 

[earl]

Our roster is bad but I can see Madge starting to lose his mind. I think he needs help and would bring in the Sheenius as a coaching director. We need players and time with pathways providing talent.

We are a bottom 4 roster but the lack of effort is troubling. We just fold like a deck chair.
I can handle losing but we must fight.

I personally think our roster isn't that bad...Maguire has just lost them

Our roster is worse than any team except the bulldogs. Some promising players but it’s 15/16 teams. Our roster is the problem it’s a bottom 4 team all day. Wayne Bennett or Trent Robinson may get us to 12th.

I don’t think our roster is that bad. Cleary did much better with less.


much less ??? didnt he have a intire cap to work with ?????
and most those players form didnt drop straight away mbye and packer werent always bad for us

Maybe so, but on paper that team wasn’t as good as this one. Cleary is a much much much better coach

He also killed our club with terrible recruitment decisions.

 

[JC99]

Sounds like he's gonna. Chammas reporting the club is having a 'crisis meeting' right now

 

[Viking Warrior]

Sounds like he's gonna. Chammas reporting the club is having a 'crisis meeting' right now

Bout time the board grew some balls