Madge Maguire - Mega Thread

[hobbo1]

If Madge logged on here he’d be a messiah..
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[avocadoontoast]

What odds we placing on Madge being punted within the next week?

$1.04

 

[mike]

Personally don't think we should sack him but here's a thought

We've got spots open next year and are in a good spot salary cap wise. If Madge spends that cap and then gets sacked, whoever comes in has to rebuild all over again

If we get a new coach now then he can straight away sign players he wants with the cap we've got available. Might end up better long term

If we sack Madge now don't ever expect the Wests Tigers to be a powerhouse club because that will never happen, ever.

 

[JC99]

Chairman Lee saying there's no crisis meeting but won't guarantee Madge's future according to Buzz. Can't access full article

 

[Viking Warrior]

Personally don't think we should sack him but here's a thought

We've got spots open next year and are in a good spot salary cap wise. If Madge spends that cap and then gets sacked, whoever comes in has to rebuild all over again

If we get a new coach now then he can straight away sign players he wants with the cap we've got available. Might end up better long term


If we sack Madge now don't ever expect the Wests Tigers to be a powerhouse club because that will never happen, ever.

You don't know that, I bet the sharks never thought they would win a premiership, if Madge does go he can hold his head high as his built a stronger team then when he has started.

 

[TigerPete 0]

There’s a feeling inside the club that the Tigers have a better and more balanced roster than they did in 2020, yet they are going backwards at a rate of knots. One of the questions set to be asked in the coming days is why perceived improvements in the roster aren’t being met with improvements in performance.

That's a fair enough assessment - most comments on here were the past off season has been our best in recent history for signings.

The question has to be asked why the performances aren't reflecting the improvement in roster.

**Madge has proven he can coach but it's looking less and less likely he's the right fit for us.**

I don't agree with the last sentence. Madge is trying to change the culture of the playing group. For way to long the players have had the say in running things and often to the overall detriment. Madge is trying to instil a winning culture. If Madge needs to break this playing group to achieve that cultural change then so be it. Those that don't buy in can leave. We have the break the cycle of letting the playing group get away with mediocrity, and then blaming the coach for their poor performance. The playing group need to be more professional in their approach and do what is needed to win.

Madge's hard nose approach is exactly what the club needs at this point in time. If it means we run last to do it then we run last. It's the cycle and culture that needs breaking and re-engineering.

If we change coaches now it might be a short term fix and we might achieve short term results but it won't fix the problem. We will remain a second tier team rather than a powerhouse.

Well said Mike and agree.. Unfortunately because it been like 10 years he will be gone and will make the jobs of others safe again ( same circle) ... The players need to be handed a realty check with the real world as what they dish up is a joke and all they want to do is offence not Defence. Fans and coaches would be happy to win 1-0 but our players want to win 46-44 and not put body on the line. Simple as that..


Then if he is gone it will be the same old same old. Nothing will ever change and no future coach would ever try again.

I want him to stay but how do we attract players here when this is what we put out? Something is not right as under Madge we were supposed to be one of the fittest teams (cause he is a so called hard task master) and be able to make these new rules changes suit us..


Sometimes you have to break things before you can re-engineer them. If you don't believe me ask Elon about SN8-11. 🙂

We need to apply the rugby league equivalent of 'economic shock therapy' - 'The best way to fix a broken economy is in one fell swoop'.

 

[Wounded_magpie]

The Wests Tigers are refusing to guarantee the future of coach Michael Maguire after Sunday’s thumping from the Manly Sea Eagles.

Asked if he could guarantee Maguire would last the season, chairman Lee Hagipantelis was non-committal when questioned by The Daily Telegraph.

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“I can’t guarantee that the sun will come up tomorrow,” Hagipantelis said.

“After 33 years as a lawyer the word guarantee has never fallen out of my lips.

“You can’t guarantee anything. Still, I’m not saying his job is on the line.”

Hagipantelis said he was shocked by reports the Wests Tigers were on the verge of holding a crisis meeting to axe the coach.

Wests Tigers have denied reports of a crisis meeting to discuss the future of coach Michael Maguire. Picture: Gregg Porteous/NRL Photos
Wests Tigers have denied reports of a crisis meeting to discuss the future of coach Michael Maguire. Picture: Gregg Porteous/NRL Photos
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His contract was recently extended for two years but there is a performance clause in the deal.

“There’s no crisis meeting at there’s no suggestion at all we’re terminating the coach,” Hagipantelis said.



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“I spoke to all out directors at the ground. There was no talk of any meetings about Madge. It’s not happening.”

“We’re all disappointed of course, but we’ll take a deep breath and start again.

“We’re grossly disappointed with the result but we won’t panic.”

A dejected Wests Tigers coach Michael Maguire after another loss. Picture: Fox Sports
A dejected Wests Tigers coach Michael Maguire after another loss. Picture: Fox Sports
Another director Simon Cook said: “I know nothing about a crisis meeting,” when contacted by The Daily Telegraph.

Just two weeks ago after a terrible performance against the Cowboys, chairman Hagipantelis directed full blame at the playing group.

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“There is no change of coach on our radar whatsoever,” Hagipantelis said.

“Madge has extended for two years. I don’t think the issue at our club is the coaching.”

 

[851]

What odds we placing on Madge being punted within the next week?

$1.04

I hope they are the odds, we have to act now, we have money to spend, and we are far from a good option to most players at present, we will miss the boat if we muck around

 

[mike]

Personally don't think we should sack him but here's a thought

We've got spots open next year and are in a good spot salary cap wise. If Madge spends that cap and then gets sacked, whoever comes in has to rebuild all over again

If we get a new coach now then he can straight away sign players he wants with the cap we've got available. Might end up better long term


If we sack Madge now don't ever expect the Wests Tigers to be a powerhouse club because that will never happen, ever.

You don't know that, I bet the sharks never thought they would win a premiership, if Madge does go he can hold his head high as his built a stronger team then when he has started.

Yes I don't know that, however IMHO unless the culture of the playing group changes we will never be more than a second tier club. We are just repeating the losing cycle we have been on since Sheens left.

 

[avocadoontoast]

What odds we placing on Madge being punted within the next week?

$1.04

I hope they are the odds, we have to act now, we have money to spend, and we are far from a good option to most players at present, we will miss the boat if we muck around

I think he’ll be sacked, and deservedly so.

 

[hobbo1]

Is Hastings still coming ?

 

[tony soprano]

Problem is he can’t recruit any big names. Any have access to buzz article?

 

[69-05-41]

Funny how people post about sacking the CEO and the board and suddenly sacking the coach gains momentum. Self-preservation appears to be motivating decisions at WT's.

 

[Wounded_magpie]

Problem is he can’t recruit any big names. Any have access to buzz article?

I have posted above

 

[cochise]

Funny how people post about sacking the CEO and the board and suddenly sacking the coach gains momentum. Self-preservation appears to be motivating decisions at WT's.

Sacking the board? lol can't happen.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

So what’s the minimum that will be acceptable for him from here on out. We’re not playing finals, which will make it the entirety of his initial contract that he failed to make the finals. We sacked JT and Potter for a whole lot less.

 

[Curaeus]

The SMH article by Chammas about fed up Tigers officials, crisis meetings and internal reviews looks to me like a death sentence for Madge. Not sure Madge is the problem anyway.

 

[tony soprano]

The Wests Tigers are refusing to guarantee the future of coach Michael Maguire after Sunday’s thumping from the Manly Sea Eagles.

Asked if he could guarantee Maguire would last the season, chairman Lee Hagipantelis was non-committal when questioned by The Daily Telegraph.

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“I can’t guarantee that the sun will come up tomorrow,” Hagipantelis said.

“After 33 years as a lawyer the word guarantee has never fallen out of my lips.

“You can’t guarantee anything. Still, I’m not saying his job is on the line.”

Hagipantelis said he was shocked by reports the Wests Tigers were on the verge of holding a crisis meeting to axe the coach.

Wests Tigers have denied reports of a crisis meeting to discuss the future of coach Michael Maguire. Picture: Gregg Porteous/NRL Photos
Wests Tigers have denied reports of a crisis meeting to discuss the future of coach Michael Maguire. Picture: Gregg Porteous/NRL Photos
Will Michael Maguire fulfill his Wests Tigers contract?
Yes
No
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His contract was recently extended for two years but there is a performance clause in the deal.

“There’s no crisis meeting at there’s no suggestion at all we’re terminating the coach,” Hagipantelis said.



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“I spoke to all out directors at the ground. There was no talk of any meetings about Madge. It’s not happening.”

“We’re all disappointed of course, but we’ll take a deep breath and start again.

“We’re grossly disappointed with the result but we won’t panic.”

A dejected Wests Tigers coach Michael Maguire after another loss. Picture: Fox Sports
A dejected Wests Tigers coach Michael Maguire after another loss. Picture: Fox Sports
Another director Simon Cook said: “I know nothing about a crisis meeting,” when contacted by The Daily Telegraph.

Just two weeks ago after a terrible performance against the Cowboys, chairman Hagipantelis directed full blame at the playing group.

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“There is no change of coach on our radar whatsoever,” Hagipantelis said.

“Madge has extended for two years. I don’t think the issue at our club is the coaching.”

Must be a fraction with the board

 

[SeanT]

The SMH article by Chammas about fed up Tigers officials, crisis meetings and internal reviews looks to me like a death sentence for Madge. Not sure Madge is the problem anyway.

Not sure he is either however our game plan in attack is non-existent. I'm not sure what they are trying to do. Don't get me started about defence. Don't care either way. This year is a lost cause.

 

[DGilly]

I had his back all the way through until now. No point trying to defend him anymore