@avocadoontoast said in [Madge Maguire \- Mega Thread](/post/1468755) said:
we had enough to offer Latrell over $1m last season
We would have had enough to offer 3 Latrells $3m without the cap constraints.
And due to how constrained we were, if we did land Latrell the rest of the squad would have been filled with minimum wagers - definitely no Doueihi, no Lucy, no Laurie, no Ken Maumolo. Latrell can be a bludger at times - and any game he didn't turn up we would have been flogged.
We could have $10m and it wouldn't make a difference. Players don't want to play for Maguire. I wouldn't want to.
It's just a myth that people take as true because it is repeated so much on here. The vast majority of players who have played with him, here or elsewhere, say it is rubbish. Our recruiting is at least as good under Madge as his predecessors, and I would argue better.
What recruitment? We haven't signed 1 NRL player for next year. And it's not a myth that players don't want to come here. My proof: No-one is coming here.
We always make most of our signings in the offseason, every single year.
People are just getting all hysterical because we didn't turn up against the Dogs in a meaningless game with our best players missing.
They beat us 38-0. We also conceded more points than them for the entire season. And that recruitment strategy is ridiculous, because you have no control over it. You are relying on teams shifting players, which might not happen. And even if it does, you're confident we'll sign some? Why? We haven't signed anyone else?
Yes 38-0, but it was a meaningless game, with most of our best players missing. Mentally Penrith was our last game of the season, then they checked out for the year. Not defending it, but it's nothing to slit our wrists over.
As for recruiting in the offseason it's not necessarily a strategy, it's just how it happens. Nobody in a top 8 team will be signing anywhere right now, give it a few weeks and that will change. I would bet my right testicle we make a few decent signings in the next 2 months (not that it's much to gamble haha).
I can guarantee you it wasn't a nothing game for Madge - he couldn't get them up for the game though.
Which is why it's bonkers to suggest he can turn it around for next season when the vast majority of the squad is the same.
For pretty much the entire second half of the season they played like a team who had given up on the coach. Don't see him turning them around at all
It's a sad reality - some players clearly tried each week, but when half the team pulls up stumps before the ball is kicked, you're going to end up with a loss on most occasions.
I'd like to be a fly on the wall inside clubs like Melbourne and the Roosters where you just don't hear of players being unhappy - they just thrive. Someone gets injured, the replacement comes in and does their job consistently. So clearly they've built cultures, set standards and have the right staff in place who not only command respect, but deserve it.
It would be interesting to see how far we fall behind in this respect - I've got no doubt some of it is on the players as too many don't have the hunger or will to win every week, so behind the scenes obviously requires a lot of work still.
Adding to that i found Joel Caines comments on his Podcast today about Steve Morris not being able to reveal information about the Roosters as Robinson has a philosophy in place that you dont reveal information to anyone even youre father interesting. His reasoning was that this would put the pressure of that information on that individual you passed it on to.
Obviously this helps the Roosters keep it in house but it also shows the difference in our club and theirs.
They take responsibility for their own actions. Well are at least asked to by their coach.
and they win most weeks..........start losing and see how tight the ship is.
But that is why they win.
Such a typical Wests Tigers fan response.
They will not start losing with that sort of culture.
