Meyer: cambo has once last chance

[GNR4LIFE]

''Sitting back and pointing fingers will do nothing''. Yet thats what you've done in this thread by blaming one section of the supporter base.

 

[gallagher]

Have you seen how popular the Wanderers are? a lot more popular than us.

In your opinion, not mine. But lets say they are more popular than us. They did it without playing games at Campbelltown. Losing the area to soccer purely based on playing games at CSS sounds like an idiotic article Phil Rothfield would write.

 

[system]

''Sitting back and pointing fingers will do nothing''. Yet thats what you've done in this thread by blaming one section of the supporter base.

Personally I am blaming the Campbelltown locals and the Leichhardt locals.

They were in the minority on Saturday night.

That in itself is a utter disgrace.

For a positive spin though they did sign up a fair few new members on the night

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Theres a lot ways you can spin it. You can blame the locals, you can ask where were the 10 000 fans who didn't back up from last week, can even ask why there was 16 000 there last week and we only have 6 000 members. I saw a good idea somewhere the other day, where it was suggested when you enter the ground you enter your postcode, so then we can finally get an idea of who is letting the club down. Is it the locals not bothering to turn up, or is it people not wanting to travel to support their team.

Having said all that, not sure why Mayer didn't come out having a go at half the crowd last week not being members. If we're going to be consistent, you might as well hit them up about that as well.

 

[wtfl1981]

Parramatta have won the last 2 wooden spoons yet had 15,000 turn up on Saturday night. The same night we played the Cowboys. How many Roosters fans do you think were at that game?

Parramatta, if your Grandad, dad, and your kid follow the Eels, you could have all grown up in the same area and always attended the same park, its a history thing, years of following, its an owned area…

We dont own Campelltown. We havent really tried... We own Leichhardt, thats another old blood born and bred area, and we are very lucky to have that brand of fan. Im old Lidcombe stock, my ties to Wests Tigers are stronger than my ties to Campelltown Magpies, hell the Tigers have now been there longer, but it is a place that has to be fought for... they copped a very average Magpies team on arrival down there, then were flicked a merger after 12 odd yrs, and we are expecting them to feel as entrenched as old bloods... and to fill the stadium themselves.

Fight for the place, it will show the old stone nosed dinosaurs they arent neglected, get the place to paint itself black orange and white create that ownership vibe down there, and we can breed some new blood... if we give up on the place, at best we stay the same membership, more likely alienate some of the locals and drop some numbers, but if we stay and do the hard yards....

There are passionate WT fans of ALL backgrounds and orgins that follow WT at all venues.. But as you can see by the twitter screenshot below, apparently you can't call or chant at a WT game as just 'Wests'

Chanting your team name is seen as the reason and cause for all of Wests Tigers problems. Not an issue at all to chant 'Tigers,Tigers'.. but god forbid don't chant 'Wests'

Hypocrisy?, ignorance? Double standards? take your pick…


 

[Flippedy]

Parramatta have won the last 2 wooden spoons yet had 15,000 turn up on Saturday night. The same night we played the Cowboys. How many Roosters fans do you think were at that game?

Parramatta, if your Grandad, dad, and your kid follow the Eels, you could have all grown up in the same area and always attended the same park, its a history thing, years of following, its an owned area…

We dont own Campelltown. We havent really tried... We own Leichhardt, thats another old blood born and bred area, and we are very lucky to have that brand of fan. Im old Lidcombe stock, my ties to Wests Tigers are stronger than my ties to Campelltown Magpies, hell the Tigers have now been there longer, but it is a place that has to be fought for... they copped a very average Magpies team on arrival down there, then were flicked a merger after 12 odd yrs, and we are expecting them to feel as entrenched as old bloods... and to fill the stadium themselves.

Fight for the place, it will show the old stone nosed dinosaurs they arent neglected, get the place to paint itself black orange and white create that ownership vibe down there, and we can breed some new blood... if we give up on the place, at best we stay the same membership, more likely alienate some of the locals and drop some numbers, but if we stay and do the hard yards....

There are passionate WT fans of ALL backgrounds and orgins that follow WT at all venues.. But as you can see by the twitter screenshot below, apparently you can't call or chant at a WT game as just 'Wests'

Chanting your team name is seen as the reason and cause for all of Wests Tigers problems. Not an issue at all to chant 'Tigers,Tigers'.. but god forbid don't chant 'Wests'

Hypocrisy?, ignorance? Double standards? take your pick…


Yeah that's kinda weird considering the team is called WESTS Tigers :unamused:

 

[Black_n_White]

Im one of those Black and white pride supporters, not in the pic specifically, but I rock only heritage magpies gear, my son and Mrs wear whatever they like though, I dont want history to be forgotten… i like the old Balmain boys doing it too...

But if you pick this fight, take exception to the tweet, which you seem to by bothering to post it, you will just end up in a tit-for-tat somewhere along the line. Truth be told they were probably trying to make a statement, I know I feel like it sometimes, hell even stooped low once in this thread in frustration myself.

I dont like being called Balmain by mistake during games, Im riled up inside everytime someone jibes about the size of the Magpie on the sleeve... but if you look at the colours in the pic, I put that down to ignorance both ways, they were after a reaction and got it... give it any more attention than it has now and a non issue becomes an issue, another volley in a dick sizing contest.

Flip has the right idea, roll the eyes and move on.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Im one of those Black and white pride supporters, not in the pic specifically, but I rock only heritage magpies gear, my son and Mrs wear whatever they like though, I dont want history to be forgotten… i like the old Balmain boys doing it too...

But if you pick this fight, take exception to the tweet, which you seem to by bothering to post it, you will just end up in a tit-for-tat somewhere along the line. Truth be told they were probably trying to make a statement, I know I feel like it sometimes, hell even stooped low once in this thread in frustration myself.

I dont like being called Balmain by mistake during games, Im riled up inside everytime someone jibes about the size of the Magpie on the sleeve... **but if you look at the colours in the pic, I put that down to ignorance both ways, they were after a reaction and got it**... give it any more attention than it has now and a non issue becomes an issue, another volley in a d*** sizing contest.

Flip has the right idea, roll the eyes and move on.

Exactly, the intent is to antagonize. However there is a massive epidemic within the supporter base that referring to Wests is an incorrect way to refer to us. Sure its only one tweet, but there is a large number of the supporter base who have the same attitude, and that is a big problem.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

I don't believe for one second that every WT fan that resides in the Macarthur is of the kind on the Magpies forum who want to see a return of the Magpies, 12 games a year at CSS and the death of WT. A better commitment to the area is needed, coupled with some sustained on field success to draw the region in. Sport wise, Sydney fans are fickle by nature and want to see their team win or at the very least compete in return for their hard earned.

All Manly home games going forward should be at CSS for the very obvious reasons, with at least another Sydney side to play there. If we are playing well, Leichhardt will get decent crowds irrespective of whom we're playing. Unfortunately while ANZ are paying us to play, they get first dibs on all quality opponents in Sydney so an equitable distribution of the remaining quality opposition is required at LO and CSS. This is something that should ensure both regions see quality football and enjoy bumper crowds as a result.

CB im assuming that your from the C-town area so i think you might be an ideal person to put this to..

in your post you say that "better commitment in the area is needed". Im just very curious to know how the wests tigers can be more committed to south-west sydney or even the magpies side of the joint venture ?

We train in the inner-west suburb of Concord which is closest to Wests Ashfield but also ideally positioned next to Leichardt/ Balmain. So in terms of keeping both sides of the joint venture happy i think Concord is perfectly located as a training base for our franchise (Unless we get our own centre of excellence in C-town).

In terms of opposition allocation to C-town and leichardt, some posters seem to be of the belief that C-town continually hosts low crowd drawing teams. But from what i can tell that couldn't be further from the truth with allocation of matches being even across all three grounds. That can't be used as an excuse anyway with the Penrith game in round two last year on a sunny Sunday afternoon only attracting 9700 (you can't get closer to CSS then Penrith).

In terms of marketing and exposure of games Im not to sure why there has been so many complaints. If anything i think that the inner-west matches get neglected more so then those at C-town. leichardt games seem to get exposed in the media much more but that is from external sources and as a result of external forces, this has nothing to do with Wests Tigers management and does not depict any lack of commitment to CSS or percieved preference to leichardt. In fact the club marketed this weeks game well with the whole "2460 vs 2040" challenge, the gear-zone meet and greet and the $10 tickets to watch 4 games including the magpies (even though it wasn't advertised properly, they still tried to "commit"to something).

I also read somewhere as well that the Tigers allocate double the resources to C-town marketing then they do in any other area, but not to sure how accurate that statement is.

Seriously, as i type this i ask myself how are they not committed ? what more can they do ? can anyone PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me how the Wests Tigers (not the media) neglect the Wests side of the JV in preference of Balmain ?

Perhaps the $30 ticket prices are to expensive ? well Mayer has recognised that and brought the prices down to $10 for our next match against the Broncos and its been put out there (hopefully he markets it better this time though). So where is the neglection ? they recognised a potential contributory factor to poor crowds at CSS and they've addressed it. To me that shows some "commitment" to draw better crowds at C-town.

Im not having a pot shot at anyone i seriously am not i'm just so shocked and dumbfounded by some of the complaints, conspiracy theories and the general whinging by some people on here when their statements are mostly not supported by the facts.

Im a WESTS TIGERS supporter who doesn't live in either heartland, with no connection to either side of the JV and i attend most home games across all three grounds. I have no bias and I'm dead curious…

I've only just seen this Tony, so I apologise for the late reply.

Tony, I don't and never have lived in Campbelltown and I was a Balmain fan before the JV.

I don't know what the answer is. Wests Tigers (and to a lesser extent to Magpies,) have never been truly embraced in Campbelltown. The area simply doesn't feel like it's their team. I've already suggested ways on how to possibly get more people through the gates but it's a booming area that no team has ever got their claws stuck into. Even if the club does some surveying at the game or at Macarthur Square or something to find out what they can do to get more bums on seats from the locals. I honestly think a team that enjoys consistent success is a major factor, and this doesn't just apply to WT, all Sydney teams enjoy more members and bigger crowds when they are running hot.

It's too big an area to let go of, there's plenty of young fans who play and love the game out there. Let's give them no excuse to go out and buy another teams jersey.

 

[system]

There are passionate WT fans of ALL backgrounds and orgins that follow WT at all venues.. But as you can see by the twitter screenshot below, apparently you can't call or chant at a WT game as just 'Wests'

Chanting your team name is seen as the reason and cause for all of Wests Tigers problems. Not an issue at all to chant 'Tigers,Tigers'.. but god forbid don't chant 'Wests'

Hypocrisy?, ignorance? Double standards? take your pick…


Quick question. Were you one of the disgusting cowards that sent the young lady vile tweets? There were a lot of you.

It is a misguided view but not deserving of the reaction she received from grown arsed men.

If you were one of those people feel free to PM me with your seat number at any one of our home grounds so I can come over and have a chat about it

 

[Magpie_Magic]

Not on twitter but she is more than misguided calling fans dickheads.

 

[system]

Misguided in the respect she is young enough to know nothing of any club but Wests Tigers.

For men in their 30's and older to use such reprehensible language towards a female, there is no excuse for that. They are all gutless cowards of the highest order

 

[southerntiger]

Misguided in the respect she is young enough to know nothing of any club but Wests Tigers.

For men in their 30's and older to use such reprehensible language towards a female, there is no excuse for that. They are all gutless cowards of the highest order

Yep.

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[happy_tiger]

There are passionate WT fans of ALL backgrounds and orgins that follow WT at all venues.. But as you can see by the twitter screenshot below, apparently you can't call or chant at a WT game as just 'Wests'

Chanting your team name is seen as the reason and cause for all of Wests Tigers problems. Not an issue at all to chant 'Tigers,Tigers'.. but god forbid don't chant 'Wests'

Hypocrisy?, ignorance? Double standards? take your pick…


Quick question. Were you one of the disgusting cowards that sent the young lady vile tweets? There were a lot of you.

It is a misguided view but not deserving of the reaction she received from grown arsed men.

If you were one of those people feel free to PM me with your seat number at any one of our home grounds so I can come over and have a chat about it

I'm guessing chat = kick your head in :roll

I haven't read it (I'm not a tweeterer )but maybe if someone had taken 5 seconds to explain why people chanted Wests she may have known better for next time

Maybe a chant like "Wests Tigers clap clap clap " (much like the old Allan Border chant ,

"Border clap clap clap " ) might appease all fans across all levels ??

Simple but effective , bit like our playing style

 

[Magpie_Magic]

First I saw of this crap is on here.

I feel for her if she has received hate mail. Don't waste time on social media.

But shes calling fans dickheads. Not to good.

And if she didn't know we are called Wests Tigers we've really got a problem.

 

[Abraham]

There are passionate WT fans of ALL backgrounds and orgins that follow WT at all venues.. But as you can see by the twitter screenshot below, apparently you can't call or chant at a WT game as just 'Wests'

Chanting your team name is seen as the reason and cause for all of Wests Tigers problems. Not an issue at all to chant 'Tigers,Tigers'.. but god forbid don't chant 'Wests'

Hypocrisy?, ignorance? Double standards? take your pick…


So taking a random twitter comment from what looks to be a teenage girl is somehow an explanation of Campbelltown's poor crowd?

You'd be better off jumping on the magpie fanatics facebook page and posting their lovely comments about hoping the wests tigers die, bringing back the magpie, and barracking for teams who the WT play against, as a more realistic explanation of what the WT are up against when it comes to some minority factions in Campbelltown.

All the old delusional dinosaur brigade (from both sides of the JV mind you) need to get it through their collective thick heads that this is not an 'us v them' power struggle, but a common journey we are all on.

I have mates who support the doggies and laugh at the mudslinging that goes on in this forum, and on twitter, between supposed supporters of the same team. To be laughed at by doggies supporters is a shameful act in itself, but to know that they are actually right, is what makes it even worse.

The Campbelltown crowd issue is not a signal to attack Leichhardt or Balmain or to bring up old grievances from years ago, but I guess it does not take much scratching to reveal people's true intentions which bubble away under the surface continuously.

A word of advice… as long as your main concerns are what strip the reserve grade side is wearing, or how many times the team is called 'Tigers' instead of 'Wests' by Ray Warren, and what % of the merchandise is orange, instead of being grateful that you still have an exiting NRL side to follow (because you almost didn't), then your not going to find any pleasure in supporting the Wests Tigers. You may as well grow a beer belly, don't shave for a few weeks, throw away the deodorant can, and join those dinosaurs who dream of the day that the wests magpies return to the NRL to play in front of 3,500 fans each week at cambo like they did in the 1990s.

There is no more Balmain, there is no more Magpies, there is just Wests Tigers. If you don't want to be a part of it, then there is plenty of room on the hill to watch the magpies run around in the Ron Massey Cup each week.

 

[genoshan]

So I just read this post from start to finish and this is my take on the whole thread.

1\. For a moderator, Smeg you are full of bullying and threats. It is stated that person attacks and threats, trolling and the like are not acceptable. I read what you wrote about Daniel and if that does not fit into the area of personal attacks I don't know what does. Also if you want seat numbers (even though I don't use twitter, maybe I can give you mine ? ) See is that a threat ?

2\. As one of the "Drunken Magpie Tragics" I was there chanting "Wests" with about 100 other Magpie supporters. Did you notice we were chanting ? We all accept the JV, but feel the Wests side of it is the poor country cousin. Yes a few people there want to see Balmain gone, but most just want a fair share, which we are not currently getting.

3\. My tickets were not scanned (2) and neither were they scanned at the gates in any other fashion.

4\. The crowd was more than 6.5k I would guess 8.5k is more realistic. This is still unacceptable. Wests Tigers are playing great football and as a lover of footy, people need to go to the games.

5\. Yes a local team derby might have helped, but still, we need the members and locals to turn up.

All this said, if the SW area is left out to dry, all rugby league will suffer. The other codes want that area badly.

One last FYI. The Western Suburbs Magpies Fanatics had more people in attendance than the Wests Tigers Fanatics who were only meters apart. The Western Suburbs Magpies Fanatics also put in their own money and are a sleeve sponsor for the RMC. Why ? We love footy !
Give the Wests side equality and the West can be won. I support the Wests Tigers, but have not forgotten the team i followed for 20+ years as a kid.

 

[system]

If you would like to give your seat numbers feel free.

As for my remarks about Gobbs. I stand 100% behind them. Nothing lower on the football totem poll then a person who swaps teams as an adult

 

[Saturnalia]

One key thing I keep seeing mentioned is growth of the SW.

and to be sure the SW is growing and growing, one little thing no-one is mentioning is who is causing the growth?

Who is moving to the SW? Mostly immigrants who have little to zero experience with Rugby League. The Idea that they are going to be immediately interested in the local sporting team is absurd.

According to the 2011 Census 45% of the people who live in Campbelltown had both parents born overseas.

so you can pretty much forget about targetting them.

The kids are where its at.

30% of campbelltowns population is less than 20 years old. The kids are the ones who are going to become fans of the tigers (or other clubs).

Is playing games there the answer? Remember parents who have nfi what league is or who the tigers are aren't going to take their kids to games.

and Depsite everything else that's been said, it's not a case of supporting AFL OR Soccer OR NRL. Most people support a team in each code.

having said all that I'm just a nuffie on an internet forum so all of this should be taken with a healthy dose of sodium chloride

 

[happy_tiger]

One key thing I keep seeing mentioned is growth of the SW.

and to be sure the SW is growing and growing, one little thing no-one is mentioning is who is causing the growth?

Who is moving to the SW? Mostly immigrants who have little to zero experience with Rugby League. The Idea that they are going to be immediately interested in the local sporting team is absurd.

According to the 2011 Census 45% of the people who live in Campbelltown had both parents born overseas.

so you can pretty much forget about targetting them.

The kids are where its at.

30% of campbelltowns population is less than 20 years old. The kids are the ones who are going to become fans of the tigers (or other clubs).

Is playing games there the answer? Remember parents who have nfi what league is or who the tigers are aren't going to take their kids to games.

and Depsite everything else that's been said, it's not a case of supporting AFL OR Soccer OR NRL. Most people support a team in each code.

having said all that I'm just a nuffie on an internet forum so all of this should be taken with a healthy dose of sodium chloride

And based on that the way to get fans to the footy would be through player visits to all local schools and free tickets to the kids about a fortnight before each Campbelltown home game

Maybe give an award to the entire school for the best presentation in regards to the Wests Tigers and their history

Then the kids learn about the Tigers and maybe develop a further interest