Mitchell Moses to Builldogs in 2018?

All this talk of money is interesting and people saying so and so is not worth this or that. Given no one has any idea what the salary cap will be then how do we know what is and isn't good value. For example a cap of $10 million means an average player is earning $400k.

Now with the bottom 5 mayby earning 150k on average in a 10 mill cap it means that the other 20 are averaging $465k each - so 700k for a halfback isn't that big really given they should be in your top 5 players it might even be a bit low
 
Bulldogs won't be pinching anyone. They are already over the cap.
Unless the cap breach includes one of our own???
 
@Boonboon2 said:
All this talk of money is interesting and people saying so and so is not worth this or that. Given no one has any idea what the salary cap will be then how do we know what is and isn't good value. For example a cap of $10 million means an average player is earning $400k.

Now with the bottom 5 mayby earning 150k on average in a 10 mill cap it means that the other 20 are averaging $465k each - so 700k for a halfback isn't that big really given they should be in your top 5 players it might even be a bit low

Correct it just shows you how overpaid many NRL players are.I would expect any playmaking first grade half to be on 600+.
 
@stryker said:
Bulldogs won't be pinching anyone. They are already over the cap.
Unless the cap breach includes one of our own???

The cap breach relates to 2016.

But i think your right they may struggle to find space under their cap for Moses unless they shift players and that hardly ever works cause the other clubs want you to heavily subsidise the players your offloading.
 
@Tiger Come Lately said:
@stryker said:
Bulldogs won't be pinching anyone. They are already over the cap.
Unless the cap breach includes one of our own???

The cap breach relates to 2016.

But i think your right they may struggle to find space under their cap for Moses unless they shift players and that hardly ever works cause the other clubs want you to heavily subsidise the players your offloading.

Josh Reynolds from memory is off contract at the end of the 2017 season so can sign Moses without having to shift him as they simply won't re-sign Reynolds.
 
@TopTiger said:
@Tiger Come Lately said:
@stryker said:
Bulldogs won't be pinching anyone. They are already over the cap.
Unless the cap breach includes one of our own???

The cap breach relates to 2016.

But i think your right they may struggle to find space under their cap for Moses unless they shift players and that hardly ever works cause the other clubs want you to heavily subsidise the players your offloading.

Josh Reynolds from memory is off contract at the end of the 2017 season so can sign Moses without having to shift him as they simply won't re-sign Reynolds.

Maybe we should sign Reynolds - let Brooks go - throw more money at Teddy and Brooks.
 
I think we will keep both of our halves and the reported $700k from Gunners mate for Brooks in 2018 seems about the right amount, which could well turn out to be a bargain if he puts in a bit more and sorts out that annoying, I'm passing it anyhow, doomed late flat ball. That is of course only if he rejects a probable higher enticement.

As for Moses, well he is probably, no scratch that, he is the best in the game at squaring an opposition defence up and for mine will be the benchmark half from mid year, if not the first round. A couple (plus more if lucky) of real kilos over the break will work wonders to an already brave player. An injury to him would be devastating, and particularly so if we didn't have one like Brooks around to soften the blow a little.
 
@Tiger Come Lately said:
@stryker said:
Bulldogs won't be pinching anyone. They are already over the cap.
Unless the cap breach includes one of our own???

The cap breach relates to 2016.

But i think your right they may struggle to find space under their cap for Moses unless they shift players and that hardly ever works cause the other clubs want you to heavily subsidise the players your offloading.

Close they are over for 2017…with the increase in the Cap in 2018 the can afford afford a Moses a Teddy and a Nofa...
 
@formerguest said:
I think we will keep both of our halves and the reported $700k from Gunners mate for Brooks in 2018 seems about the right amount, which could well turn out to be a bargain if he puts in a bit more and sorts out that annoying, I'm passing it anyhow, doomed late flat ball. That is of course only if he rejects a probable higher enticement.

As for Moses, well he is probably, no scratch that, he is the best in the game at squaring an opposition defence up and for mine will be the benchmark half from mid year, if not the first round. A couple (plus more if lucky) of real kilos over the break will work wonders to an already brave player. An injury to him would be devastating, and particularly so if we didn't have one like Brooks around to soften the blow a little.

FG, the halves that we have are lacking probably the most valuable thing in any benchmark, and that's consistency,
I'm not saying that it won't come, but until it does, there's no way that they will be a benchmark for anything,
The biggest disappointment so far, (IMO.) is that they don't seem to play that well together. Their best games are when only one of them is playing.
However it's what we've got. we can only hope
 
@diedpretty said:
@TopTiger said:
@Tiger Come Lately said:
@stryker said:
Bulldogs won't be pinching anyone. They are already over the cap.
Unless the cap breach includes one of our own???

The cap breach relates to 2016.

But i think your right they may struggle to find space under their cap for Moses unless they shift players and that hardly ever works cause the other clubs want you to heavily subsidise the players your offloading.

Josh Reynolds from memory is off contract at the end of the 2017 season so can sign Moses without having to shift him as they simply won't re-sign Reynolds.

Maybe we should sign Reynolds - let Brooks go - throw more money at Teddy and Brooks.

Why would we sign Reynolds?

We already have a ball boy and he is not an idiot.
 
@Geo. said:
@Tiger Come Lately said:
@stryker said:
Bulldogs won't be pinching anyone. They are already over the cap.
Unless the cap breach includes one of our own???

The cap breach relates to 2016.

But i think your right they may struggle to find space under their cap for Moses unless they shift players and that hardly ever works cause the other clubs want you to heavily subsidise the players your offloading.

Close they are over for 2017…with the increase in the Cap in 2018 the can afford afford a Moses a Teddy and a Nofa...

DT article said 100k over in 2016 and they self-report.
 
@Tiger Come Lately said:
DT article said 100k over in 2016 and they self-report.

Canterbury are reportedly in breach of the NRL salary cap by about $100,000.

The Seven Network on Wednesday night reported the Bulldogs, some months ago, had discovered they were over the cap for 2017 and alerted the NRL.

Canterbury face a probable hefty fine for the breach.

The original figure is believed to have been up to $160,000.

Bulldogs chief executive Raelene Castle, however, told Seven News she is confident it will be less than $100,000 by the time the final numbers are crunched within a few weeks.

By self-reporting to the NRL, it is anticipated Canterbury will be fined an amount equivalent to the final breach amount, rather than being hit with a possible deduction of premiership points.
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http://www.canberratimes.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/canterbury-bulldogs-breach-nrl-salary-cap-report-20161130-gt18eq.html
 
“The Bulldogs looked at theirs and found that they were likely to be over the cap for the season just completed,” an NRL spokesman said.

actual quote in the tele. Looks like they are right.
 
@Masterton said:
@Tiger Come Lately said:
DT article said 100k over in 2016 and they self-report.

Canterbury are reportedly in breach of the NRL salary cap by about $100,000.

The Seven Network on Wednesday night reported the Bulldogs, some months ago, had discovered they were over the cap for 2017 and alerted the NRL.

Canterbury face a probable hefty fine for the breach.

The original figure is believed to have been up to $160,000.

Bulldogs chief executive Raelene Castle, however, told Seven News she is confident it will be less than $100,000 by the time the final numbers are crunched within a few weeks.

By self-reporting to the NRL, it is anticipated Canterbury will be fined an amount equivalent to the final breach amount, rather than being hit with a possible deduction of premiership points.
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http://www.canberratimes.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/canterbury-bulldogs-breach-nrl-salary-cap-report-20161130-gt18eq.html

I should read the Canberra times, below is the DT article,

MATT LOGUE, The Daily Telegraph
December 1, 2016 5:23pm

CANTERBURY will escape with a fine after self-reporting to the NRL they were $100,000 over the salary cap for the 2016 season.

As reported by Seven News on Wednesday night, the Bulldogs discovered they were over the salary cap for last season and alerted the NRL.

It’s understood the original figure was $160,000, but Canterbury officials remain hopeful the final fine could be reduced as low as $100,000.
 
Curtis Rona and tony Williams won't be with them in 2017, samp perret retired. Williams was supposedly on $500k. So I'm guessing they would be already be under for 2017.
 
@goldcoast tiger said:
@formerguest said:
I think we will keep both of our halves and the reported $700k from Gunners mate for Brooks in 2018 seems about the right amount, which could well turn out to be a bargain if he puts in a bit more and sorts out that annoying, I'm passing it anyhow, doomed late flat ball. That is of course only if he rejects a probable higher enticement.

As for Moses, well he is probably, no scratch that, he is the best in the game at squaring an opposition defence up and for mine will be the benchmark half from mid year, if not the first round. A couple (plus more if lucky) of real kilos over the break will work wonders to an already brave player. An injury to him would be devastating, and particularly so if we didn't have one like Brooks around to soften the blow a little.

FG, the halves that we have are lacking probably the most valuable thing in any benchmark, and that's consistency,
I'm not saying that it won't come, but until it does, there's no way that they will be a benchmark for anything,
The biggest disappointment so far, (IMO.) is that they don't seem to play that well together. Their best games are when only one of them is playing.
However it's what we've got. we can only hope

Certainly agree with Brooks lack of consistency, even remembering that he was well short of fit for the last few games, but not Moses. He came on in leaps and bounds this season, particularly the second half, and is allowed the one poor late performance when Teddy was also missing as he was basically carrying the side.
 
@formerguest said:
@goldcoast tiger said:
@formerguest said:
I think we will keep both of our halves and the reported $700k from Gunners mate for Brooks in 2018 seems about the right amount, which could well turn out to be a bargain if he puts in a bit more and sorts out that annoying, I'm passing it anyhow, doomed late flat ball. That is of course only if he rejects a probable higher enticement.

As for Moses, well he is probably, no scratch that, he is the best in the game at squaring an opposition defence up and for mine will be the benchmark half from mid year, if not the first round. A couple (plus more if lucky) of real kilos over the break will work wonders to an already brave player. An injury to him would be devastating, and particularly so if we didn't have one like Brooks around to soften the blow a little.

FG, the halves that we have are lacking probably the most valuable thing in any benchmark, and that's consistency,
I'm not saying that it won't come, but until it does, there's no way that they will be a benchmark for anything,
The biggest disappointment so far, (IMO.) is that they don't seem to play that well together. Their best games are when only one of them is playing.
However it's what we've got. we can only hope

Certainly agree with Brooks lack of consistency, even remembering that he was well short of fit for the last few games, but not Moses. He came on in leaps and bounds this season, particularly the second half, and is allowed the one poor late performance when Teddy was also missing as he was basically carrying the side.

In attack , Moses came on amazingly . In defence however, id say it would be a tie between him and Kev as our worst defenders. He has to got to aim up in defence this year if he really is to reach the levels some people have already put him on.
 
@Tiger Come Lately said:
@Masterton said:
@Tiger Come Lately said:
DT article said 100k over in 2016 and they self-report.

Canterbury are reportedly in breach of the NRL salary cap by about $100,000.

The Seven Network on Wednesday night reported the Bulldogs, some months ago, had discovered they were over the cap for 2017 and alerted the NRL.

Canterbury face a probable hefty fine for the breach.

The original figure is believed to have been up to $160,000.

Bulldogs chief executive Raelene Castle, however, told Seven News she is confident it will be less than $100,000 by the time the final numbers are crunched within a few weeks.

By self-reporting to the NRL, it is anticipated Canterbury will be fined an amount equivalent to the final breach amount, rather than being hit with a possible deduction of premiership points.
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http://www.canberratimes.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/canterbury-bulldogs-breach-nrl-salary-cap-report-20161130-gt18eq.html

I should read the Canberra times, below is the DT article,

MATT LOGUE, The Daily Telegraph
December 1, 2016 5:23pm

CANTERBURY will escape with a fine after self-reporting to the NRL they were $100,000 over the salary cap for the 2016 season.

As reported by Seven News on Wednesday night, the Bulldogs discovered they were over the salary cap for last season and alerted the NRL.

It’s understood the original figure was $160,000, but Canterbury officials remain hopeful the final fine could be reduced as low as $100,000.

Can't trust the tele…

Massoud on 7 definitly said...2017...as has been reported widely elsewhere..

The Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs are likely to breach the 2017 salary cap by $100,000 (or $160,000 depending on who's reporting it).

Bulldogs officials noticed the problem a few months ago and in an act of transparency, notified the NRL of its findings straight away.

It's not likely at all that they will be stripped of points but once the number is defined, the Bulldogs will most likely be fined the amount the Bulldogs have breached the salary cap by....

Should have plenty of room for Moses in 2018 tho...
 
@Geo. said:
@Tiger Come Lately said:
@Masterton said:
@Tiger Come Lately said:
DT article said 100k over in 2016 and they self-report.

Canterbury are reportedly in breach of the NRL salary cap by about $100,000.

The Seven Network on Wednesday night reported the Bulldogs, some months ago, had discovered they were over the cap for 2017 and alerted the NRL.

Canterbury face a probable hefty fine for the breach.

The original figure is believed to have been up to $160,000.

Bulldogs chief executive Raelene Castle, however, told Seven News she is confident it will be less than $100,000 by the time the final numbers are crunched within a few weeks.

By self-reporting to the NRL, it is anticipated Canterbury will be fined an amount equivalent to the final breach amount, rather than being hit with a possible deduction of premiership points.
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http://www.canberratimes.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/canterbury-bulldogs-breach-nrl-salary-cap-report-20161130-gt18eq.html

I should read the Canberra times, below is the DT article,

MATT LOGUE, The Daily Telegraph
December 1, 2016 5:23pm

CANTERBURY will escape with a fine after self-reporting to the NRL they were $100,000 over the salary cap for the 2016 season.

As reported by Seven News on Wednesday night, the Bulldogs discovered they were over the salary cap for last season and alerted the NRL.

It’s understood the original figure was $160,000, but Canterbury officials remain hopeful the final fine could be reduced as low as $100,000.

Can't trust the tele…

Massoud on 7 definitly said...2017...as has been reported widely elsewhere..

The Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs are likely to breach the 2017 salary cap by $100,000 (or $160,000 depending on who's reporting it).

Bulldogs officials noticed the problem a few months ago and in an act of transparency, notified the NRL of its findings straight away.

It's not likely at all that they will be stripped of points but once the number is defined, the Bulldogs will most likely be fined the amount the Bulldogs have breached the salary cap by....

Should have plenty of room for Moses in 2018 tho...

If thats the case,surely they must have to shed a player to then be under the cap.
 
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