Mitchell Pearce

[Geo]

Harry still has been vetoed on private TPA's though since ceding sponsorship hasn't he?

Ni but he also builds kitchens..

 

[Silentio]

I hope the Raiders sign Pearce.

Ricky Stuart* and Pearce, two of the greatest pretenders to ever grace our game.

* Stuart as a coach, I admit he was a kickarse player.

 

[newtiger]

Harry still has been vetoed on private TPA's though since ceding sponsorship hasn't he?

Think about how many Subbies Harry has on all those building sites, the NRL couldn't stop some or all of them providing TPA's.
I think that Harry will kick some cash into the HT Centre of Excellence.

 

[4jtigers]

Harry still has been vetoed on private TPA's though since ceding sponsorship hasn't he?

Think about how many Subbies Harry has on all those building sites, the NRL couldn't stop some or all of them providing TPA's.
I think that Harry will kick some cash into the HT Centre of Excellence.

Sorry, ignoramus here and a bit off topic.

Why is Harry being treated this way? He just wants to help the club for goodness sake. If Uncle Nick can do it, why can't Harry?

 

[happy_tiger]

Harry still has been vetoed on private TPA's though since ceding sponsorship hasn't he?

Think about how many Subbies Harry has on all those building sites, the NRL couldn't stop some or all of them providing TPA's.
I think that Harry will kick some cash into the HT Centre of Excellence.

Bathurst I know you like me , but naming the Centre of Excellence after me is going a bit far mate :laughing:

Name the cloning clinic after me if you like :smiley:

 

[tiger05premier]

Harry still has been vetoed on private TPA's though since ceding sponsorship hasn't he?

Think about how many Subbies Harry has on all those building sites, the NRL couldn't stop some or all of them providing TPA's.
I think that Harry will kick some cash into the HT Centre of Excellence.

Sorry, ignoramus here and a bit off topic.

Why is Harry being treated this way? He just wants to help the club for goodness sake. If Uncle Nick can do it, why can't Harry?

Because he supports the WT.

If he supported the rorters or dogs or sharks he could do whatever he likes and the NRL would turn a blind eye to it.

 

[Harvey]

Frontloading jirskyr. Theyve been building for a premiership this year or next, that much is clear. They had that really thin year a couple of years ago.

As sheens put it when we had our tilt in 2010/11\. A watershed year. The problem is, we did it with backloading!!

I'd love to know where exactly the Roosters were front-loading when they came:
2013 Premiers
2014 M Premiers
2015 M Premiers
2016 15th - "the Dog year"
2017 2nd

Who exactly were they not paying to undercut the cap in those seasons, to produce $2M+ cap space in 2018? They came 2nd or better in 80% of the last 5 seasons.

I refuse to believe "the Dog year" wasn't a proper tilt at the premiership; instead it unravelled because a key player had to be sidelined. They basically had the same side as in 2017 except Keary.

And unless there is some supreme accounting at play, I refuse to believe Roosters could frontload contracts in a single poor season 2016 to the effect of opening up $2M+ cap space in 2018\. Tigers had to lose 2 x $1M players to find $2M cap space, Bulldogs had to lose some core players, but Roosters seem able to just flick some nobodies to Newcastle and reset.

Nope I don't buy any of those narratives.

According to Nicks article ,it was $600k front loaded from 2016\. With that, the increase in cap and the players they offloaded, I honestly don't think they would be too far off. Reportedly Cronk signed for $850k a year and ted went searching for a premiership and might have taken unders too.

They also got rid of SKD and Carter before the end of season and might have freed up a little there.

i don't find it too far fetched.

Not long now till santa and his magic reindeers circle the globe in a night stopping to deliver presents at every single residence

 

[newtiger]

Harry still has been vetoed on private TPA's though since ceding sponsorship hasn't he?

Think about how many Subbies Harry has on all those building sites, the NRL couldn't stop some or all of them providing TPA's.
I think that Harry will kick some cash into the HT Centre of Excellence.

Bathurst I know you like me , but naming the Centre of Excellence after me is going a bit far mate :laughing:

Name the cloning clinic after me if you like :smiley:

I think 1 Happy is enough, imagine the trouble on here with 2 or more Happy's.
:brick:

 

[newtiger]

Harry still has been vetoed on private TPA's though since ceding sponsorship hasn't he?

Think about how many Subbies Harry has on all those building sites, the NRL couldn't stop some or all of them providing TPA's.
I think that Harry will kick some cash into the HT Centre of Excellence.

Sorry, ignoramus here and a bit off topic.

Why is Harry being treated this way? He just wants to help the club for goodness sake. If Uncle Nick can do it, why can't Harry?

Greenberg won't accept HT's TPA's because he was a sponsor of the club and is too close to the club.

 

[Russell]

Harry still has been vetoed on private TPA's though since ceding sponsorship hasn't he?

Think about how many Subbies Harry has on all those building sites, the NRL couldn't stop some or all of them providing TPA's.
I think that Harry will kick some cash into the HT Centre of Excellence.

Sorry, ignoramus here and a bit off topic.

Why is Harry being treated this way? He just wants to help the club for goodness sake. If Uncle Nick can do it, why can't Harry?

Greenberg won't accept HT's TPA's because he was a sponsor of the club and is too close to the club.

That is a job for Fair Trading.

Harry is not a sponsor of the Wests Tigers now. Therefore he is entitled to supply a TPA to Tigers players as any of Easts suppliers are to the club of their choice.

 

[Geo]

City Ford says Yes more often..

 

[happy_tiger]

City Ford says Yes more often..

Didn't know Nick was from Kythera …... Father- in Law's family from Kythera

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

I don't want him. His disrespect towards our club to me means we shouldn't even consider him.

What disrespect????

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

Frontloading jirskyr. Theyve been building for a premiership this year or next, that much is clear. They had that really thin year a couple of years ago.

As sheens put it when we had our tilt in 2010/11\. A watershed year. The problem is, we did it with backloading!!

I'd love to know where exactly the Roosters were front-loading when they came:
2013 Premiers
2014 M Premiers
2015 M Premiers
2016 15th - "the Dog year"
2017 2nd

Who exactly were they not paying to undercut the cap in those seasons, to produce $2M+ cap space in 2018? They came 2nd or better in 80% of the last 5 seasons.

I refuse to believe "the Dog year" wasn't a proper tilt at the premiership; instead it unravelled because a key player had to be sidelined. They basically had the same side as in 2017 except Keary.

And unless there is some supreme accounting at play, I refuse to believe Roosters could frontload contracts in a single poor season 2016 to the effect of opening up $2M+ cap space in 2018\. Tigers had to lose 2 x $1M players to find $2M cap space, Bulldogs had to lose some core players, but Roosters seem able to just flick some nobodies to Newcastle and reset.

Nope I don't buy any of those narratives.

I agree, Roosters and other like clubs are augmenting the rules. It is most likely in TPA's which is today's equivalent of the brown paper bag.

Either the NRL are too gutless to do anything about it or they are part of the problem. I have zero faith in Greenberg and strongly believe him to be a puppet of the power brokers within the NRL. As are some of the main NRL reporters.

I don't know why the rest of us ( not just us) keep whinging about the Roosters, it's the NRL that should houlder the blame if anyone's rorting anything. If they're to dumb, or hesitant to wipe it out. That's their fault.
If the Roosters are rorting the system or if they are just smarter than clubs like us, well why don't we join them. Stop crying and figure out how we can Do it too. Only smarter!!!

We can whinge as much as we want. It will change nothing. Use the rules like they do
Above the board, or under it, I don't care anymore.
I just would like to see us getting smart enough to play them at their own game.
If Harry is our only source of TPAs, then we need to attract more of the Corporate suits to the clubs. That's the real place that they have it all over us.

 

[Glennb]

Harry still has been vetoed on private TPA's though since ceding sponsorship hasn't he?

Think about how many Subbies Harry has on all those building sites, the NRL couldn't stop some or all of them providing TPA's.
I think that Harry will kick some cash into the HT Centre of Excellence.

Sorry, ignoramus here and a bit off topic.

Why is Harry being treated this way? He just wants to help the club for goodness sake. If Uncle Nick can do it, why can't Harry?

Thats the whole point! If he is doing it to help the club, if it has ANYTHING to do with the club, any link, its illegal (well against salary cap rules).

People get the TPA's totally wrong. Its not third party deals that the club has organised, it has to have NOTHING to do with the club. the best way to understand it is to understand how it came about and how the rules (TPA) came into effect.

Years ago Craig Wing was told he couldnt play (ironically) for the Roosters because at the time he had a gig male modelling and a gig on a Pay TV fashion show. This money tipped them over the cap but Wing had got the gigs himself and at that stage he was told to give up the gigs or he cant play. That of course is a ridiculous situation and if a player can pick up a gig by themselves, seperate to his playing contract, good luck to him.

Remember this whenever someone says they want to ban TPA's. You cant, its a part of our beautiful capitalist system and if a player can earn a buck on the side, good luck to them, but it cant even smell linked to the club

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

If Mitch has "voluntarily" left the Club it could have been induced/sweetened by still receiving TPA's until original contract was due to expire.

 

[sheer64]

Rorters miss the top 8 and which ever club pearce goes to as well! 😛ray:

 

[newtiger]

Frontloading jirskyr. Theyve been building for a premiership this year or next, that much is clear. They had that really thin year a couple of years ago.

As sheens put it when we had our tilt in 2010/11\. A watershed year. The problem is, we did it with backloading!!

I'd love to know where exactly the Roosters were front-loading when they came:
2013 Premiers
2014 M Premiers
2015 M Premiers
2016 15th - "the Dog year"
2017 2nd

Who exactly were they not paying to undercut the cap in those seasons, to produce $2M+ cap space in 2018? They came 2nd or better in 80% of the last 5 seasons.

I refuse to believe "the Dog year" wasn't a proper tilt at the premiership; instead it unravelled because a key player had to be sidelined. They basically had the same side as in 2017 except Keary.

And unless there is some supreme accounting at play, I refuse to believe Roosters could frontload contracts in a single poor season 2016 to the effect of opening up $2M+ cap space in 2018\. Tigers had to lose 2 x $1M players to find $2M cap space, Bulldogs had to lose some core players, but Roosters seem able to just flick some nobodies to Newcastle and reset.

Nope I don't buy any of those narratives.

I agree, Roosters and other like clubs are augmenting the rules. It is most likely in TPA's which is today's equivalent of the brown paper bag.

Either the NRL are too gutless to do anything about it or they are part of the problem. I have zero faith in Greenberg and strongly believe him to be a puppet of the power brokers within the NRL. As are some of the main NRL reporters.

I don't know why the rest of us ( not just us) keep whinging about the Roosters, it's the NRL that should houlder the blame if anyone's rorting anything. If they're to dumb, or hesitant to wipe it out. That's their fault.
If the Roosters are rorting the system or if they are just smarter than clubs like us, well why don't we join them. Stop crying and figure out how we can Do it too. Only smarter!!!

We can whinge as much as we want. It will change nothing. Use the rules like they do
Above the board, or under it, I don't care anymore.
I just would like to see us getting smart enough to play them at their own game.
If Harry is our only source of TPAs, then we need to attract more of the Corporate suits to the clubs. That's the real place that they have it all over us.

What the Roosters are doing is totally within the rules, pay the players a small amount in their contracts.
Then top it up with huge TPA's, totally legal morally bankrupt.
We need to engage more corporate sponsors to the club to help with TPA's.
That will come with success on the field.

 

[NT_Tiger]

I'd love to know where exactly the Roosters were front-loading when they came:
2013 Premiers
2014 M Premiers
2015 M Premiers
2016 15th - "the Dog year"
2017 2nd

Who exactly were they not paying to undercut the cap in those seasons, to produce $2M+ cap space in 2018? They came 2nd or better in 80% of the last 5 seasons.

I refuse to believe "the Dog year" wasn't a proper tilt at the premiership; instead it unravelled because a key player had to be sidelined. They basically had the same side as in 2017 except Keary.

And unless there is some supreme accounting at play, I refuse to believe Roosters could frontload contracts in a single poor season 2016 to the effect of opening up $2M+ cap space in 2018\. Tigers had to lose 2 x $1M players to find $2M cap space, Bulldogs had to lose some core players, but Roosters seem able to just flick some nobodies to Newcastle and reset.

Nope I don't buy any of those narratives.

I agree, Roosters and other like clubs are augmenting the rules. It is most likely in TPA's which is today's equivalent of the brown paper bag.

Either the NRL are too gutless to do anything about it or they are part of the problem. I have zero faith in Greenberg and strongly believe him to be a puppet of the power brokers within the NRL. As are some of the main NRL reporters.

I don't know why the rest of us ( not just us) keep whinging about the Roosters, it's the NRL that should houlder the blame if anyone's rorting anything. If they're to dumb, or hesitant to wipe it out. That's their fault.
If the Roosters are rorting the system or if they are just smarter than clubs like us, well why don't we join them. Stop crying and figure out how we can Do it too. Only smarter!!!

We can whinge as much as we want. It will change nothing. Use the rules like they do
Above the board, or under it, I don't care anymore.
I just would like to see us getting smart enough to play them at their own game.
If Harry is our only source of TPAs, then we need to attract more of the Corporate suits to the clubs. That's the real place that they have it all over us.

What the Roosters are doing is totally within the rules, pay the players a small amount in their contracts.
Then top it up with huge TPA's, totally legal morally bankrupt.
We need to engage more corporate sponsors to the club to help with TPA's.
That will come with success on the field.

Although I believe this is what they are doing, it is not totally within the rules. To enable them to make lowball offers to premium players, and expect those offers to be accepted, they have to be involved (as a club) in organising TPA's and other non monetary benefits. Not within the rules at all, but apparently difficult to prove.
I would be interested to know what resources the NRL has at its disposal to investigate this kind of thing. Probably not alot.

 

[newtiger]

I agree, Roosters and other like clubs are augmenting the rules. It is most likely in TPA's which is today's equivalent of the brown paper bag.

Either the NRL are too gutless to do anything about it or they are part of the problem. I have zero faith in Greenberg and strongly believe him to be a puppet of the power brokers within the NRL. As are some of the main NRL reporters.

I don't know why the rest of us ( not just us) keep whinging about the Roosters, it's the NRL that should houlder the blame if anyone's rorting anything. If they're to dumb, or hesitant to wipe it out. That's their fault.
If the Roosters are rorting the system or if they are just smarter than clubs like us, well why don't we join them. Stop crying and figure out how we can Do it too. Only smarter!!!

We can whinge as much as we want. It will change nothing. Use the rules like they do
Above the board, or under it, I don't care anymore.
I just would like to see us getting smart enough to play them at their own game.
If Harry is our only source of TPAs, then we need to attract more of the Corporate suits to the clubs. That's the real place that they have it all over us.

What the Roosters are doing is totally within the rules, pay the players a small amount in their contracts.
Then top it up with huge TPA's, totally legal morally bankrupt.
We need to engage more corporate sponsors to the club to help with TPA's.
That will come with success on the field.

Although I believe this is what they are doing, it is not totally within the rules. To enable them to make lowball offers to premium players, and expect those offers to be accepted, they have to be involved (as a club) in organising TPA's and other non monetary benefits. Not within the rules at all, but apparently difficult to prove.
I would be interested to know what resources the NRL has at its disposal to investigate this kind of thing. Probably not alot.

Greenberg doesn't have enough intestinal fortitude to go after Nick's club.