More Tigers Players To Be Punted

[king_sirro]

He should have shut his mouth but I can see where he is coming from. JT hasn't exactly been professional since he came to the club.

Has taylor ever bagged Farah to the media?

Taylor facing the media and directly saying "we stand a better chance of winning against the Dragons without Robbie in the team" is bagging him IMO.
Robbie is a petulant sook but the club has handled this whole thing as poorly as you would expect from WT. It isn't the first time our club has got itself into a huge mess, all played out in the media. WT are amateurs when it comes to resolving internal problems in-house.

The club definitely handles things very poorly at times, the past week being a prime example, but why does every left of field decision always have to be such a huge deal for us? Someone mentioned Nathan Peats in relation to this saga before. The guy gets shifted to another state within a short period of time and essentially cops it on the chin without even 1/10th of the fuss that's been created by Robbie playing one match in reserve grade!

I dont see how the club could handle the past week differently? If the coach believes too many cooks spoil the broth and one has to go, and that one is Robbie, then what could they have done differently the past week? They named Robbie on Tuesday so they had time to talk to him personally before the media got hold of it (good move), the coach is asked why Robbie is dropped, and gives a reaonable explanation (good move), the CEO is up front with fans and gives an insight into the decision to stop media beat ups, (good move).

Whether we agrer with the decision or not, how this week alone was handled by the club is fine.

 

[stryker]

It's his contract that is the stumbling block and what is differentiating his case from his peers like Peats. No one wants to take on such a large commitment for a guy who comes with baggage and is nearing the end of his career. If the Tigers shopped him around for 150k they might get a bite..but it seems fair to say they want a lot more which other clubs won't stump up for.

The club caused this by their putrid negotiations of his contracts…both previous and current.

 

[Knuckles]

Has taylor ever bagged Farah to the media?

Taylor facing the media and directly saying "we stand a better chance of winning against the Dragons without Robbie in the team" is bagging him IMO.
Robbie is a petulant sook but the club has handled this whole thing as poorly as you would expect from WT. It isn't the first time our club has got itself into a huge mess, all played out in the media. WT are amateurs when it comes to resolving internal problems in-house.

The club definitely handles things very poorly at times, the past week being a prime example, but why does every left of field decision always have to be such a huge deal for us? Someone mentioned Nathan Peats in relation to this saga before. The guy gets shifted to another state within a short period of time and essentially cops it on the chin without even 1/10th of the fuss that's been created by Robbie playing one match in reserve grade!

I dont see how the club could handle the past week differently? If the coach believes too many cooks spoil the broth and one has to go, and that one is Robbie, then what could they have done differently the past week? They named Robbie on Tuesday so they had time to talk to him personally before the media got hold of it (good move), the coach is asked why Robbie is dropped, and gives a reaonable explanation (good move), the CEO is up front with fans and gives an insight into the decision to stop media beat ups, (good move).

Whether we agrer with the decision or not, how this week alone was handled by the club is fine.

It should has been resolved before the season started. Everyone knew it was a ticking time bomb.

 

[Pawsandclaws]

He should have shut his mouth but I can see where he is coming from. JT hasn't exactly been professional since he came to the club.

Has taylor ever bagged Farah to the media?

Taylor facing the media and directly saying "we stand a better chance of winning against the Dragons without Robbie in the team" is bagging him IMO.
Robbie is a petulant sook but the club has handled this whole thing as poorly as you would expect from WT. It isn't the first time our club has got itself into a huge mess, all played out in the media. WT are amateurs when it comes to resolving internal problems in-house.

The club definitely handles things very poorly at times, the past week being a prime example, but why does every left of field decision always have to be such a huge deal for us? Someone mentioned Nathan Peats in relation to this saga before. The guy gets shifted to another state within a short period of time and essentially cops it on the chin without even 1/10th of the fuss that's been created by Robbie playing one match in reserve grade!

It's best Peats not be used as an example to compare his actions to Farahs. Imagine if Farah had refused to play because he wasn't receiving his cash payment?

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/parramatta-eels/parramatta-eels-officials-jason-irvine-and-scott-seward-admit-underthetable-payments-20160711-gq3et2.html

 

[Harvey]

It isn't our club it is one bloke R Farah

They're one and the same thing aren't they?

One person certainly thinks so!!

 

[Tim Sheens]

It's his contract that is the stumbling block and what is differentiating his case from his peers like Peats. No one wants to take on such a large commitment for a guy who comes with baggage and is nearing the end of his career. If the Tigers shopped him around for 150k they might get a bite..but it seems fair to say they want a lot more which other clubs won't stump up for.

The club caused this by their putrid negotiations of his contracts…both previous and current.

Yeah, all got to do with ROI. Sad that a current SOO player has so much extra baggage hanging from the chips on his shoulders that he struggles to attract any realistic offers and it might take a paltry price tag of $150k to get any interest at all.

 

[Knuckles]

If Taylor is coach in 2017, Farah can't stay. So they either pay him what is owed or accept what another club (if any) has to offer. There's no other way. Putting the members and fans through another year of this is not an option.

 

[stryker]

It's his contract that is the stumbling block and what is differentiating his case from his peers like Peats. No one wants to take on such a large commitment for a guy who comes with baggage and is nearing the end of his career. If the Tigers shopped him around for 150k they might get a bite..but it seems fair to say they want a lot more which other clubs won't stump up for.

The club caused this by their putrid negotiations of his contracts…both previous and current.

Yeah, all got to do with ROI. Sad that a current SOO player has so much extra baggage hanging from the chips on his shoulders that he struggles to attract any realistic offers and it might take a paltry price tag of $150k to get any interest at all.

For all we know he may have had offers such as this and the club blocked them wanting more of his contract payed. This is all about money so it's entirely possible that by trying to dig their way out of this hole they have made a rod for their own back.

 

[Knuckles]

Nothing surer.

 

[king_sirro]

It's his contract that is the stumbling block and what is differentiating his case from his peers like Peats. No one wants to take on such a large commitment for a guy who comes with baggage and is nearing the end of his career. If the Tigers shopped him around for 150k they might get a bite..but it seems fair to say they want a lot more which other clubs won't stump up for.

The club caused this by their putrid negotiations of his contracts…both previous and current.

Yeah, all got to do with ROI. Sad that a current SOO player has so much extra baggage hanging from the chips on his shoulders that he struggles to attract any realistic offers and it might take a paltry price tag of $150k to get any interest at all.

For all we know he may have had offers such as this and the club blocked them wanting more of his contract payed. This is all about money so it's entirely possible that by trying to dig their way out of this hole they have made a rod for their own back.

Its been said many times, its against NRL rules for a player like Farah to be signed by a club for such a small amount. The club he plays for has to pay in the area of his market value determined by the NRL. In robbies case the NRL would probably allow another club to sign him for 400k and no less. Even if the tigers said they will pay him all of his contract, his new club then couldnt sign him for nothing, they would have to pay at least his market value.

Usually the market value determined is much less than reality, allowing situations for players to be moved on mid contract. Guys like Blair etc arent playing at the broncos for nothing, the broncos will be paying his determined market value while we make up the difference. Same with Ballin and us. So if Blair is determined by the NRL to be a 300k a year player and we had him for 500k, then we pay 200k. If the NRL determined him to be a 400k player than we only pay the Broncs 100k.

All negotiations regarding mid contract switches are determined by the NRL's judgement on market value. No player is at a club for free.

 

[king_sirro]

Taylor facing the media and directly saying "we stand a better chance of winning against the Dragons without Robbie in the team" is bagging him IMO.
Robbie is a petulant sook but the club has handled this whole thing as poorly as you would expect from WT. It isn't the first time our club has got itself into a huge mess, all played out in the media. WT are amateurs when it comes to resolving internal problems in-house.

The club definitely handles things very poorly at times, the past week being a prime example, but why does every left of field decision always have to be such a huge deal for us? Someone mentioned Nathan Peats in relation to this saga before. The guy gets shifted to another state within a short period of time and essentially cops it on the chin without even 1/10th of the fuss that's been created by Robbie playing one match in reserve grade!

I dont see how the club could handle the past week differently? If the coach believes too many cooks spoil the broth and one has to go, and that one is Robbie, then what could they have done differently the past week? They named Robbie on Tuesday so they had time to talk to him personally before the media got hold of it (good move), the coach is asked why Robbie is dropped, and gives a reaonable explanation (good move), the CEO is up front with fans and gives an insight into the decision to stop media beat ups, (good move).

Whether we agrer with the decision or not, how this week alone was handled by the club is fine.

It should has been resolved before the season started. Everyone knew it was a ticking time bomb.

Thats not in dispute here. The point is about the last week alone.

 

[Knuckles]

It's his contract that is the stumbling block and what is differentiating his case from his peers like Peats. No one wants to take on such a large commitment for a guy who comes with baggage and is nearing the end of his career. If the Tigers shopped him around for 150k they might get a bite..but it seems fair to say they want a lot more which other clubs won't stump up for.

The club caused this by their putrid negotiations of his contracts…both previous and current.

Yeah, all got to do with ROI. Sad that a current SOO player has so much extra baggage hanging from the chips on his shoulders that he struggles to attract any realistic offers and it might take a paltry price tag of $150k to get any interest at all.

For all we know he may have had offers such as this and the club blocked them wanting more of his contract payed. This is all about money so it's entirely possible that by trying to dig their way out of this hole they have made a rod for their own back.

Its been said many times, its against NRL rules for a player like Farah to be signed by a club for such a small amount. The club he plays for has to pay in the area of his market value determined by the NRL. In robbies case the NRL would probably allow another club to sign him for 400k and no less. Even if the tigers said they will pay him all of his contract, his new club then couldnt sign him for nothing, they would have to pay at least his market value.

Usually the market value determined is much less than reality, allowing situations for players to be moved on mid contract. Guys like Blair etc arent playing at the broncos for nothing, the broncos will be paying his determined market value while we make up the difference. Same with Ballin and us. So if Blair is determined by the NRL to be a 300k a year player and we had him for 500k, then we pay 200k. If the NRL determined him to be a 400k player than we only pay the Broncs 100k.

All negotiations regarding mid contract switches are determined by the NRL's judgement on market value. No player is at a club for free.

I wish Pascoe well.

 

[Love_the_WestsTigers]

Sheens harped on about tapping players on the shoulder for years

I think he tapped them there but when they turned around and said "WHAT ?" he put his tail between is legs and walked away..

load of horse poo, i will believe it when i see it

 

[tiga4eva]

It's his contract that is the stumbling block and what is differentiating his case from his peers like Peats. No one wants to take on such a large commitment for a guy who comes with baggage and is nearing the end of his career. If the Tigers shopped him around for 150k they might get a bite..but it seems fair to say they want a lot more which other clubs won't stump up for.

The club caused this by their putrid negotiations of his contracts…both previous and current.

My only issue is,Potter knew signing Farah to a massive 4yr deal was wrong,advised the Club to sign Robbie for 2 years instead of 4\. Previous management sided with Farah when he realised and threw his toys outta the cot. At least current management has backed the Coach,Potter wasn't afforded that luxury and most likely will never get a Head Coach gig again

 

[Sco77y]

If Taylor is coach in 2017, Farah can't stay. So they either pay him what is owed or accept what another club (if any) has to offer. There's no other way. Putting the members and fans through another year of this is not an option.

That's what it comes down to, they just need to sort this out. I don't care what they need to do but this needs to be resolved by the start of next season, whether Farah, JT or both go - it's not fair on members and fans and I don't know another club where dramas are carried out for so long. The Eels are the only exception but I think everyone could agree there are a whole lot of serious issues there, we're only dealing with one! And it's about a player being moved to reserve grade for one match..

 

[stevetiger]

It's his contract that is the stumbling block and what is differentiating his case from his peers like Peats. No one wants to take on such a large commitment for a guy who comes with baggage and is nearing the end of his career. If the Tigers shopped him around for 150k they might get a bite..but it seems fair to say they want a lot more which other clubs won't stump up for.

The club caused this by their putrid negotiations of his contracts…both previous and current.

My only issue is,Potter knew signing Farah to a massive 4yr deal was wrong,advised the Club to sign Robbie for 2 years instead of 4\. Previous management sided with Farah when he realised and threw his toys outta the cot. At least current management has backed the Coach,Potter wasn't afforded that luxury and most likely will never get a Head Coach gig again

I think we can all see that Potter was 100% correct. The problem is that this whole situation has gotten worse. The right decision should have been made at that point and we wouldn't be in this mess.

Now the mess was handed to Taylor and he has made it worse.

 

[matchball]

Laughable some of these comments.
Jt never wanted Farah. He tried to punt him before a ball was kicked off for 2015 but Farah made a song and dance about it and JT gave him a chance if he followed the game plan. He didn't.
His 3 step probes out of dummy half is the problem. Once one of the halves get the ball the defenders are 5m out from the ball.

JT and the club handled everything great, just Farah and his manager unloaded through the media much like he did this time around.
In my 40 years I've never seen such an emotional windbag of a player in my life. The maturity bus missed Robbies stop.

 

[stevetiger]

If Taylor is coach in 2017, Farah can't stay. So they either pay him what is owed or accept what another club (if any) has to offer. There's no other way. Putting the members and fans through another year of this is not an option.

That's what it comes down to, they just need to sort this out. I don't care what they need to do but this needs to be resolved by the start of next season, whether Farah, JT or both go - it's not fair on members and fans and I don't know another club where dramas are carried out for so long. The Eels are the only exception but I think everyone could agree there are a whole lot of serious issues there, we're only dealing with one! And it's about a player being moved to reserve grade for one match..

100% correct. The problem is that they both have contracts as far as I can see.

 

[Love_the_WestsTigers]

In terms of Farah or JT leaving i rather Jason Taylor as he has delivered less for the club.

 

[TSupps05]

I like Farah and i have for many years, it is just that when he has got older and taken the captaincy for many years he seems to think he is bigger than the club. For goodness sake Robbie if a coach thinks you aren't performing well and moves you to reserve grade you don't need to make a whoop de doo about it. This is outrageous as a Tigers fan for many years every player has accepted the coaches decision. Marshall did under Potter when he was benched, he didn't carry on but Farah does, I find that he disrespects the coaches opinion which is not professional at all. I just want Robbie to come off the bench for 3 games to bring up his 250 then get rid of him.
In all due respect, I am just saying my opinion and still think Farah is a good player.