MOYLAN MAYBE RELEASED ..

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word is if Moylan leaves Penrith, Sharks will let Maloney go and pick up Moylan.

Maloney has offers from Souths, Newcastle and Warrington.

I can't see us being in the hunt for him, as much as I wish we were.

Have you seen how many penalties he gives away, missed tackles, errors etc.

He us coming to the end of his career and we alread have Reynolds and plenty of depth in the halves.

Don't think we need Maloney unless it is on a minimal contract
 
I didn't say we were chasing Maloney.

I apologise for not mentioning Moylan in the last line of my post. I thought i was clear with my post, but it appears I confused matters.
 
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word is if Moylan leaves Penrith, Sharks will let Maloney go and pick up Moylan.

Maloney has offers from Souths, Newcastle and Warrington.

I can't see us being in the hunt for Moylan, as much as I wish we were.

No one will touch Moylan now that Panthers want a transfer fee.
 
Doesn't exist in the NRL so Gus is just blowing hot air…Unless he intends shipping Matty of to the ESL..
 
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word is if Moylan leaves Penrith, Sharks will let Maloney go and pick up Moylan.

Maloney has offers from Souths, Newcastle and Warrington.

I can't see us being in the hunt for Moylan, as much as I wish we were.

No one will touch Moylan now that Panthers want a transfer fee.

don't be so sure. the transfer fee will only be to cover Penrith's share of his salary that they will be paying next year IF he leaves. It essentially means whoever buys him will be paying full price for him.
 
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Doesn't exist in the NRL so Gus is just blowing hot air…Unless he intends shipping Matty of to the ESL..

Transfer fee's have been paid by NRL clubs before. Warriors paid Wigan a million for Sam Tomkins from memory.

I think the Knights have just received a few hundred grand in transfer fees from Castleford to let Joe Wardle leave two years early.
 
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Doesn't exist in the NRL so Gus is just blowing hot air…Unless he intends shipping Matty of to the ESL..

Transfer fee's have been paid by NRL clubs before. Warriors paid Wigan a million for Sam Tomkins from memory.

I think the Knights have just received a few hundred grand in transfer fees from Castleford to let Joe Wardle leave two years early.

Yes Super League have the Transfer fee system ..in both those instances the player was coming from there system to ours or our system to theirs…there was also the case of Segyaro to the Sharks and a transfer fee being paid...i believe that those fees paid were included in the cap..

I don't believe it exists between NRL Clubs though unless the NRL has decided to change the rules..
 
Makes sense for a powerful club. Pay 250 transfer fee and sign him on 600k with a TPA. WT couldn't manage this and no chance you pay that sought of coin unless you get him registered under the cap cheap.
 
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Doesn't exist in the NRL so Gus is just blowing hot air…Unless he intends shipping Matty of to the ESL..

Transfer fee's have been paid by NRL clubs before. Warriors paid Wigan a million for Sam Tomkins from memory.

I think the Knights have just received a few hundred grand in transfer fees from Castleford to let Joe Wardle leave two years early.

Yes Super League have the Transfer fee system ..in both those instances the player was coming from there system to ours or our system to theirs…there was also the case of Segyaro to the Sharks and a transfer fee being paid...i believe that those fees paid were included in the cap..

I don't believe it exists between NRL Clubs though unless the NRL has decided to change the rules..

Dennis Tutty mark II?
 
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Doesn't exist in the NRL so Gus is just blowing hot air…Unless he intends shipping Matty of to the ESL..

Transfer fee's have been paid by NRL clubs before. Warriors paid Wigan a million for Sam Tomkins from memory.

I think the Knights have just received a few hundred grand in transfer fees from Castleford to let Joe Wardle leave two years early.

Yes Super League have the Transfer fee system ..in both those instances the player was coming from there system to ours or our system to theirs…there was also the case of Segyaro to the Sharks and a transfer fee being paid...i believe that those fees paid were included in the cap..

I don't believe it exists between NRL Clubs though unless the NRL has decided to change the rules..

I think it's more of a case that it isn't banned between NRL clubs. And in essence it does exist in a weird reverse form.

"If you want to let go of Player A, we'll help you. but you've got to foot some of his salary, as sign of your gratitude."

The NRL doesn't wholeheartedly ban much. It's just another loophole waiting to be exploited.
 
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Doesn't exist in the NRL so Gus is just blowing hot air…Unless he intends shipping Matty of to the ESL..

Transfer fee's have been paid by NRL clubs before. Warriors paid Wigan a million for Sam Tomkins from memory.

I think the Knights have just received a few hundred grand in transfer fees from Castleford to let Joe Wardle leave two years early.

Yes Super League have the Transfer fee system ..in both those instances the player was coming from there system to ours or our system to theirs…there was also the case of Segyaro to the Sharks and a transfer fee being paid...i believe that those fees paid were included in the cap..

I don't believe it exists between NRL Clubs though unless the NRL has decided to change the rules..

Dennis Tutty mark II?

Sort of. Kinda.

The system which Tutty broke was a combination of transfer system and the residential rule. See, if you made first grade with a club, they practically owned you. If you wanted to leave you had to ask the club and they would decide whether they would let you go.

If a player was good, but wanted to leave, the club could virtually end his career. Refuse to let them go. If the player refused to play, fine. At least he wasn't helping another side out, that was the mentality.
 
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/matt-moylan-relinquishes-penrith-captaincy-panthers-put-transfer-fee-on-his-release-20170928-gyqjcn.html

Cronulla and the Wests Tigers are the front-runners for Moylan's signature, with Manly believed to now be out of the race having recently upgraded Dylan Walker's contract and likely to extend Blake Green's contract beyond 2018.

The Tigers want Moylan to wear the No.1 jersey vacated by James Tedesco after his defection to the Sydney Roosters, but Moylan has indicated his preference is to play in the halves.

There had been talk Cronulla would offload James Maloney to lure Moylan to the club, **but Cronulla believe they can afford to have both Moylan and Maloney at the club next year despite having also signed Josh Dugan on a lucrative deal.**

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the sharks cap must look like a beach umbrella
 
A little more from SMH..
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The Penrith Panthers have moved to deter rival clubs from circling Matt Moylan by placing a transfer fee on the five-eighth should he ask for a release from the final four years of his contact.

Fairfax Media can also reveal the 26-year-old, who last week indicated to the club he was intent on making things work at Penrith, has relinquished the captaincy after asking to be released from the burden and toll of leading the football team.
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It hasn't stopped rival clubs from meeting with his manager to discuss the possibility of him leaving Penrith in the off-season. However, Penrith are believed to have asked for around $250,000 in compensation should Moylan ask to leave his junior club.

Under NRL rules, a transfer fee between any of the 16 clubs would be exempt from the salary cap, however the club gaining Moylan's services would have to pay an additional 50 per cent loading fee to the governing body, which goes into the player education and welfare program.

This would be on top of the $900,000-a-season deal his manager is seeking from interested clubs, meaning Moylan would set a club back in excess of $1.2 million should Penrith be compensated for a potential release.

Cronulla and the Wests Tigers are the front-runners for Moylan's signature, with Manly believed to now be out of the race having recently upgraded Dylan Walker's contract and likely to extend Blake Green's contract beyond 2018.

South Sydney paid a transfer fee for Sam Burgess to get him back from rugby union, while Cronulla did the same to get James Segeyaro from the English Super League. But it's almost unprecedented for an NRL club to pay another NRL club for a player's services.

Also complicating the pursuit of Moylan is the fact he has a $250,000-a-year registered third-party deal in place that is unlikely to be transferred to another club.

The Tigers want Moylan to wear the No.1 jersey vacated by James Tedesco after his defection to the Sydney Roosters, but Moylan has indicated his preference is to play in the halves.

There had been talk Cronulla would offload James Maloney to lure Moylan to the club, but Cronulla believe they can afford to have both Moylan and Maloney at the club next year despite having also signed Josh Dugan on a lucrative deal.
Tigers coach Ivan Cleary handed Moylan his debut at Penrith and has a strong relationship with him from their time together at the Panthers. However, Cronulla also have the added advantage of Andrew Fifita, who is one of Moylan's closest friends.

Moylan has been training at the Panthers academy during the past fortnight and appears to be in a much clearer head space than a month ago when it looked like he would demand a release from the club.

The Panthers handed Moylan the captaincy in 2016 aware of some of the shortcomings in his preparation and dedication to training. The appointment of him as captain was meant to inspire and bring the best out of him. But it has arguably had the opposite effect, strangling a player who thrives on freedom.

It's understood he asked to step down from the captaincy at one of the regular meetings he now has with club officials – the strongest indication to date that he will be at the club when they return for pre-season training on November 13.
 
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A little more from SMH..
**Also complicating the pursuit of Moylan is the fact he has a $250,000-a-year registered third-party deal in place that is unlikely to be transferred to another club.**

I don't get it.

They have a registered TPA, that "is unlikely to be transferred to another club"? But I thought TPAs were not allowed to be associated with the clubs? That they were sorted out independently from the clubs? I know that it's bs, but I thought that was the rules they were at least pretending to follow. So how can they say that a TPA is unlikely to be transferred to another club?
 
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A little more from SMH..

**There had been talk Cronulla would offload James Maloney to lure Moylan to the club, but Cronulla believe they can afford to have both Moylan and Maloney at the club next year despite having also signed Josh Dugan on a lucrative deal.**

And Sharks think they can keep Maloney, buy big on Dugan (after letting Bird go), but then still splurge on Moylan for near $1m? How can we compete with teams that cheat so brazenly? Broncos, Roosters, Storm, now Sharks… amazing Eels got into the top four with these cheaters, but of course Eels were busted for cheating only last year so...
 

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