MOYLAN MAYBE RELEASED ..

[Spud_Murphy]

Tui should get first crack at fullback, Moylan or no Moylan. He's working hard to get there and make the position his own - he deserves a fair go imo.

If Moylan does come and that is a big 'if' he would be best suited to either 5/8 or half. I think there is some wiggle room with Reynolds and Brooks covering hooker if need be. I don't think either would look out of place in the dummy half role, Reynolds especially.

 

[851]

Because we have no else. None of your other options are halfbacks. We're stuck with him for 2 more years. Like it or lump it.

There's a guy wearing 7 for the Broncos on Friday night in a semi final who is signed with us for next year .

People rolled their eyes when he signed for the Broncos but there he is & we haven't played a semi final since he left either .

Just sayin' …

Exactly, better league minds than GNR like Sheens, McGregor and Bennett think Benji can cut it as a 7, in fact like you say Bennett the supposed guru is trotting Benji out in a qualifying final tomorrow night as starting halfback.
We at least have to try different options at 7, because Brooks after 4 years and 82 games is still not cutting it, look at how Eiso, Twal, Suli and the like excelled this year because they were given a go.
As for Moylan, 1 or 7 for us next year would be a great result, onwards and upwards from now on, no more wheel spinning and sliding backwards with poor players playing every week.

So Marshall has been successful as a halfback. Is that what you are really trying to say?

If it is a choice between Brooks and Marshall, then yes I take Benji, same goes Tui or Brooks, I take Tui, Moylan or Brooks, I take Moylan and I would even give Gamble a go in front of Brooks as well.
Brooks needs to go back to reggies and learn how a halfback plays, because he hasn't learnt in top grade.

 

[innsaneink]

Gone are the days where our marquee signing for the next season were the likes of Anasta and Keith Lulia. Even if Moylan or Rona don't hop on the bus, the fact we now get linked to these calibre of players shows a vast improvement for the Tigers. Cleary sure has turned this club around

Is Cleary solely responsible for that? It has nothing to do with the fact those were the only players we could afford in previous years? Now that we are out of the woods cap wise, we are actually signing quality players. Don't think that is a coincidence.

lol. Sorry, the board and Cleary have turned this club around. Former administration would've bent their backs for the Big 4 and dug us a deeper hole. I'm praising our club for something, I guess my comment was a bit too optimistic for you, was it? If so, extremely sorry. :slight_smile:

Well said Tigersbusdriver. Cleary has really turned this club around. Some people want to live in fantasy land and **think JT would have been able to recruit as good as Cleary but they are dreaming.**

Nobody actually said **that**, its you interpretation only.
Youre actually agreeing with someones speculation..

 

[GNR4LIFE]

The reality is Cleary has done a great job, but it certainly helps to make the signings he has made with a full cap available. Had the big 4 stayed, he would not have had the freedom to do what he did. He was blessed to walk in when he did. Im sure it influenced his decision to take the job.

 

[Guest]

Lolohea wants to play either at 1 or 6\. He's no centre that's for sure.

Why "thats for sure"?

His strength is his running. A fullback or 5/8 needs to be able to pass and his passing game generally is horrendous. Adjusting defensively and an ability to hit a hole are the unkowns about playing centre but i fail to see how that's a definate no.

And on wanting to play 1 or 6, im sure the choice between playing first grade or reserve grade will ensure he's happy to be a centre.

That's right and our centres don't see a lot of ball, Tui will be wasted at centre, he's better with the ball in his hands, whether it's at 1 or 6.

 

[Russell]

Lolohea wants to play either at 1 or 6\. He's no centre that's for sure.

Why "thats for sure"?

His strength is his running. A fullback or 5/8 needs to be able to pass and his passing game generally is horrendous. Adjusting defensively and an ability to hit a hole are the unkowns about playing centre but i fail to see how that's a definate no.

And on wanting to play 1 or 6, im sure the choice between playing first grade or reserve grade will ensure he's happy to be a centre.

You must have been watching different games to me if you think Tui's general passing game is horrendous.
A couple have gone astray - yes. The one out to Nofo (who would have scored if he had kept up with the play) who wasn't there - was not his error imo.

His passing game is ten times better than Tedesco to start with - he at least passes the ball, most of Teddy's passes this year either went forward or he threw it on the ground.

Tui would be about as good playing centre as Lovett and we know how that turned out. In fact it would be a total waste of talent. You can't just grab anyone and say - your playing centre mate - and expect suddenly he is a great centre. It is a specialist position and very few are good at it.

Why does he have to make the choice to play centre or reserve grade?

Who, that we have signed is a better full back than Tui?

or is this a scenario you have just dreamed up for the sake of it?

 

[supercoach]

Lolohea wants to play either at 1 or 6\. He's no centre that's for sure.

Why "thats for sure"?

His strength is his running. A fullback or 5/8 needs to be able to pass and his passing game generally is horrendous. Adjusting defensively and an ability to hit a hole are the unkowns about playing centre but i fail to see how that's a definate no.

And on wanting to play 1 or 6, im sure the choice between playing first grade or reserve grade will ensure he's happy to be a centre.

You must have been watching different games to me if you think Tui's general passing game is horrendous.
A couple have gone astray - yes. The one out to Nofo (who would have scored if he had kept up with the play) who wasn't there - was not his error imo.

His passing game is ten times better than Tedesco to start with - he at least passes the ball, most of Teddy's passes this year either went forward or he threw it on the ground.

Tui would be about as good playing centre as Lovett and we know how that turned out. In fact it would be a total waste of talent. You can't just grab anyone and say - your playing centre mate - and expect suddenly he is a great centre. It is a specialist position and very few are good at it.

Why does he have to make the choice to play centre or reserve grade?

Who, that we have signed is a better full back than Tui?

or is this a scenario you have just dreamed up for the sake of it?

X2….I think Tui has a great passing game and plenty of vision to go with it.

 

[supercoach]

Going to be a long off season, up to page 14 on a subject that is very very long odds to come off, but i guess we have precious little other things to talk about

 

[king_sirro]

Lolohea wants to play either at 1 or 6\. He's no centre that's for sure.

Why "thats for sure"?

His strength is his running. A fullback or 5/8 needs to be able to pass and his passing game generally is horrendous. Adjusting defensively and an ability to hit a hole are the unkowns about playing centre but i fail to see how that's a definate no.

And on wanting to play 1 or 6, im sure the choice between playing first grade or reserve grade will ensure he's happy to be a centre.

That's right and our centres don't see a lot of ball, Tui will be wasted at centre, he's better with the ball in his hands, whether it's at 1 or 6.

I hope your right if that's where he plays. But i cant help but think he will make too many costly mistakes in these positions. His talent is unquestioned and I would love him to nail the fullback spot and be a star. Huge ??? over his passing though.

 

[king_sirro]

Lolohea wants to play either at 1 or 6\. He's no centre that's for sure.

Why "thats for sure"?

His strength is his running. A fullback or 5/8 needs to be able to pass and his passing game generally is horrendous. Adjusting defensively and an ability to hit a hole are the unkowns about playing centre but i fail to see how that's a definate no.

And on wanting to play 1 or 6, im sure the choice between playing first grade or reserve grade will ensure he's happy to be a centre.

You must have been watching different games to me if you think Tui's general passing game is horrendous.
A couple have gone astray - yes. The one out to Nofo (who would have scored if he had kept up with the play) who wasn't there - was not his error imo.

His passing game is ten times better than Tedesco to start with - he at least passes the ball, most of Teddy's passes this year either went forward or he threw it on the ground.

Tui would be about as good playing centre as Lovett and we know how that turned out. In fact it would be a total waste of talent. You can't just grab anyone and say - your playing centre mate - and expect suddenly he is a great centre. It is a specialist position and very few are good at it.

Why does he have to make the choice to play centre or reserve grade?

Who, that we have signed is a better full back than Tui?

or is this a scenario you have just dreamed up for the sake of it?

X2….I think Tui has a great passing game and plenty of vision to go with it.

His passing at the moment is Benji like at Benji's worst. Superp at times and down right childish at other times. How that cant be seen i will never know..

 

[swag_tiger]

The Lurker
Sporting news
Despite Phil Gould’s statement that Matt Moylan is part of Penrith’s future, there is little doubt the troubled star is likely to be on the move in 2018.

And I’m now hearing he could be joined out the door by another of the club’s favourite sons - utility Bryce Cartwright.

Cartwright, like Moylan, has all the talent in the world. But also like Moylan, he has plenty of off-field issues.

The ball-playing utility has been in the headlines for the wrong reasons several times in the last couple of seasons and officials are tiring of his attitude and covering up his problems.

Rival clubs would quickly swoop on Cartwright should the Panthers decide to let him test himself on the open market.

8 September 2017
http://www.sportingnews.com/au/league/list/the-lurker-attitude-cost-bryce-cartwright-matt-moylan-panthers-job-penrith-nrl-finals/1kgu2sdvwpy911c600kweunj5p

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Moylan can get stuffed if Cartwright were to come on the market. We're in greater need of a player like him then we are Moylan.

 

[supercoach]

Moylan can get stuffed if Cartwright were to come on the market. We're in greater need of a player like him then we are Moylan.

Not sure on that, Cartwright is a defensive liability and I think most teams can handle his offloads and attacking flair. Not saying he is a dud but I don't think he is the player we all thought he would be, although we do need a player who can create something and he might tick the box. If I had a choice it would be Moylan, top shelve player that can kick…no brainer to me

 

[king_sirro]

Moylan can get stuffed if Cartwright were to come on the market. We're in greater need of a player like him then we are Moylan.

Not sure on that, Cartwright is a defensive liability and I think most teams can handle his offloads and attacking flair. Not saying he is a dud but I don't think he is the player we all thought he would be, although we do need a player who can create something and he might tick the box. If I had a choice it would be Moylan, top shelve player that can kick…no brainer to me

I agree. Cartwright is a real liability thrown in with random genius. And if people think Moylan is a grub of human then Cartwright would be marked a parasite.

 

[Snake]

Moylan can get stuffed if Cartwright were to come on the market. We're in greater need of a player like him then we are Moylan.

Not sure on that, Cartwright is a defensive liability and I think most teams can handle his offloads and attacking flair. Not saying he is a dud but I don't think he is the player we all thought he would be, although we do need a player who can create something and he might tick the box. If I had a choice it would be Moylan, top shelve player that can kick…no brainer to me

Cartwright is not in the same class as Moylan ,Moylan is a game changer the one percentage player that ever team needs .Cartwrite just an above average type that still
Needs to learn to tackle the Tigers already have a few of these already .

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Cartwright is a head case. No thanks.

Moylan is well ahead of Cartwright in what he offers.

 

[Toowoomba_Tiger]

The big bonus with Moylan is he has proven himself at 1 or 6, could probably even play 7 if heaps of injuries. Lets remember Reynolds and Brooks have been injury prone this season (and Moylan).

Moylan would really add some versatility and depth to our spine.
I liken the thought of him in our roster as similar to what Cam Munster has provided at the storm playing 1 or 6 as needed.

1\. Moylan
6\. Tui
7\. Brooks
9\. Reynolds
14\. Liddle

Then depending on form and injuries

1\. Moylan/Tui/Naqiama/Nofa
6\. Tui/Moylan/Reynolds/Benji
7\. Brooks/Reynolds/Benji/Tui and even Moylan
9\. Reynolds/Liddle/Matty Mac/Taylor

That is a far cry from the lack of depth we have had in the spine in the last 2 seasons.

I'm really sweating on getting Moylan.

 

[Toowoomba_Tiger]

Cartwrights defence is not good enough. No thanks.

 

[05TIGZ]

Is Cleary solely responsible for that? It has nothing to do with the fact those were the only players we could afford in previous years? Now that we are out of the woods cap wise, we are actually signing quality players. Don't think that is a coincidence.

lol. Sorry, the board and Cleary have turned this club around. Former administration would've bent their backs for the Big 4 and dug us a deeper hole. I'm praising our club for something, I guess my comment was a bit too optimistic for you, was it? If so, extremely sorry. :slight_smile:

Well said Tigersbusdriver. Cleary has really turned this club around. Some people want to live in fantasy land and **think JT would have been able to recruit as good as Cleary but they are dreaming.**

Nobody actually said **that**, its you interpretation only.
Youre actually agreeing with someones speculation..

I told you I'm not interested. Like most of the things you post on here it's meaningless and pointless. Now go away.

 

[05TIGZ]

Moylan can get stuffed if Cartwright were to come on the market. We're in greater need of a player like him then we are Moylan.

Not sure on that, Cartwright is a defensive liability and I think most teams can handle his offloads and attacking flair. Not saying he is a dud but I don't think he is the player we all thought he would be, although we do need a player who can create something and he might tick the box. If I had a choice it would be Moylan, top shelve player that can kick…no brainer to me

Cartwright is not in the same class as Moylan ,Moylan is a game changer the one percentage player that ever team needs .Cartwrite just an above average type that still
Needs to learn to tackle the Tigers already have a few of these already .

Anyone who puts Cartwright in the same league as Moylan has no idea about footy. He has done nothing all year.