MOYLAN MAYBE RELEASED ..

[Masterton]

If rumours are to be believed than

1\. Maloney wants more money. Sharks won't pay it. Will only give Maloney a release to earn more if they get a suitable replacement. Wouldn't offer more to Maloney but willing to release him if they could get Cronk who would cost double so guessing they have cap room.

2\. Penrith are facing salary cap pressure. So if there was a swap Moylan would get his money but Maloney would probably be facing the same scenario he is in now.

If that's the case i can't really see a swap working.

The talk was Maloney being released to Warriors. Dunno if that's changed with their recent signings.

 

[tiger05premier]

If rumours are to be believed than

1\. Maloney wants more money. Sharks won't pay it. Will only give Maloney a release to earn more if they get a suitable replacement. Wouldn't offer more to Maloney but willing to release him if they could get Cronk who would cost double so guessing they have cap room.

2\. Penrith are facing salary cap pressure. So if there was a swap Moylan would get his money but Maloney would probably be facing the same scenario he is in now.

If that's the case i can't really see a swap working.

The talk was Maloney being released to Warriors. Dunno if that's changed with their recent signings.

Wait and see I guess

 

[TYGA]

Sharks are best served giving Maloney a slight increase.
He's still their best option to win another premiership next year. Tigers make sense for Moylan Cleary has worked well for him given his issues money should be a lesser consideration.

 

[FreddyK]

Lots of talk about Maloney. Let's get it straight, Maloney is contracted to Cronulla for 2018.

This talk about release is misleading because Cronulla are still obligated to pay him in 2018\. We went through this saga only recently with Farah. Now Cronulla's turn.

No club will pay $1m for Maloney so it means he remains on the Cronulla books hence salary cap. Moylan will not be going to Cronulla.

 

[FreddyK]

Just a reminder from Phil Gould as of March 2017

PANTHERS boss Phil Gould has warned Ivan Cleary — the man he staked Penrith’s resurrection on — against attempting the same miracle at Wests Tigers, declaring the battling side not physically fit enough to compete at NRL level.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/tigers/nrl-2017-phil-gould-urges-ivan-cleary-to-consider-all-options-before-coaching-unfit-wests-tigers/news-story/eeb3516bd7a67c978a6bd116ac8f523d

 

[Tigerdon]

Yes the Tigers didn't look ready after a preseason with JT.
Gould has his own agenda. Ivan did well to ignore Gould and form a good partnership with Pascoe.
So what should Ivan have done Phil sit on the couch and wait for Melbourne to call and say we have a full fit team here can you take over?

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Gone are the days where our marquee signing for the next season were the likes of Anasta and Keith Lulia. Even if Moylan or Rona don't hop on the bus, the fact we now get linked to these calibre of players shows a vast improvement for the Tigers. Cleary sure has turned this club around

Is Cleary solely responsible for that? It has nothing to do with the fact those were the only players we could afford in previous years? Now that we are out of the woods cap wise, we are actually signing quality players. Don't think that is a coincidence.

lol. Sorry, the board and Cleary have turned this club around. Former administration would've bent their backs for the Big 4 and dug us a deeper hole. I'm praising our club for something, I guess my comment was a bit too optimistic for you, was it? If so, extremely sorry. :slight_smile:

All good, just providing you with an relevant fact you omitted from your post.

 

[Nucky_Thompson]

I don't know if I like cleary comments about moylan. My problem being what are we going to do with tui lolohuia why do Brooks and Reynolds get guaranteed a spot and where tui I going to play if moylan comes over. I'd rather see what tui potential can produce. Too is one of a kind and feel cleary comments undermine tui

 

[king_sirro]

I don't know if I like cleary comments about moylan. My problem being what are we going to do with tui lolohuia why do Brooks and Reynolds get guaranteed a spot and where tui I going to play if moylan comes over. I'd rather see what tui potential can produce. Too is one of a kind and feel cleary comments undermine tui

We are in need of a centre who can create something from nothing, i think Lolohea could fill that role if he puts his mind to it and works hard at learning the position. He would be great concentrating on running ball rather then his erratic passing. That being said, im happy for Moylan at 6 and Lolo to be given a go at 1.

 

[Joel Helmes]

So…

1\. Lolohea
6\. Moylan
7\. Brooks
9\. Reynolds

17\. Marshall

McIllwrick, as good as he is, is not a star and Liddle needs another year.

 

[Tigerdon]

So…

1\. Lolohea
6\. Moylan
7\. Brooks
9\. Reynolds

17\. Marshall

McIllwrick, as good as he is, is not a star and Liddle needs another year.

I don't think we'll get Moylan, but you never know. With Cleary at the helm I suppose it's possible.

1\. Lolohea
6\. Reynolds
7\. Moylan
9\. Brooks

 

[innsaneink]

Yeah, hes a good player, but he also seems like an egotistical wanker like Moses, we dont need another one of them…But I'll trust the coach on his words however serious or tongue in cheek they may be

 

[Nucky_Thompson]

I don't know if I like cleary comments about moylan. My problem being what are we going to do with tui lolohuia why do Brooks and Reynolds get guaranteed a spot and where tui I going to play if moylan comes over. I'd rather see what tui potential can produce. Too is one of a kind and feel cleary comments undermine tui

We are in need of a centre who can create something from nothing, i think Lolohea could fill that role if he puts his mind to it and works hard at learning the position. He would be great concentrating on running ball rather then his erratic passing. That being said, im happy for Moylan at 6 and Lolo to be given a go at 1.

We have taane Milne who I rate and suli.

 

[avocadoontoast]

I don't know if I like cleary comments about moylan. My problem being what are we going to do with tui lolohuia why do Brooks and Reynolds get guaranteed a spot and where tui I going to play if moylan comes over. I'd rather see what tui potential can produce. Too is one of a kind and feel cleary comments undermine tui

We are in need of a centre who can create something from nothing, i think Lolohea could fill that role if he puts his mind to it and works hard at learning the position. He would be great concentrating on running ball rather then his erratic passing. That being said, im happy for Moylan at 6 and Lolo to be given a go at 1.

We have taane Milne who I rate and suli.

Milne is a great depth signing but if we got Moylan then:

1\. Moylan
2\. Nofoaluma
3\. Suli
4\. Lolohea
5\. Fonua

Would be our best backline by far..

 

[Roar_Power]

I don't know if I like cleary comments about moylan. My problem being what are we going to do with tui lolohuia why do Brooks and Reynolds get guaranteed a spot and where tui I going to play if moylan comes over. I'd rather see what tui potential can produce. Too is one of a kind and feel cleary comments undermine tui

We are in need of a centre who can create something from nothing, i think Lolohea could fill that role if he puts his mind to it and works hard at learning the position. He would be great concentrating on running ball rather then his erratic passing. That being said, im happy for Moylan at 6 and Lolo to be given a go at 1.

We have taane Milne who I rate and suli.

Milne is a great depth signing but if we got Moylan then:

1\. Moylan
2\. Nofoaluma
3\. Suli
4\. Lolohea
5\. Fonua

Would be our best backline by far..

To have a successful team, you mostly need happy players. I reckon Tui would blow up if he was put at centre. He came here to get away from the centre/ wing position and make FB his own. I definitely think there would be some resentment….

 

[Guest]

Lolohea wants to play either at 1 or 6\. He's no centre that's for sure.

 

[king_sirro]

Lolohea wants to play either at 1 or 6\. He's no centre that's for sure.

Why "thats for sure"?

His strength is his running. A fullback or 5/8 needs to be able to pass and his passing game generally is horrendous. Adjusting defensively and an ability to hit a hole are the unkowns about playing centre but i fail to see how that's a definate no.

And on wanting to play 1 or 6, im sure the choice between playing first grade or reserve grade will ensure he's happy to be a centre.

 

[05TIGZ]

There's a guy wearing 7 for the Broncos on Friday night in a semi final who is signed with us for next year .

People rolled their eyes when he signed for the Broncos but there he is & we haven't played a semi final since he left either .

Just sayin' …

Exactly, better league minds than GNR like Sheens, McGregor and Bennett think Benji can cut it as a 7, in fact like you say Bennett the supposed guru is trotting Benji out in a qualifying final tomorrow night as starting halfback.
We at least have to try different options at 7, because Brooks after 4 years and 82 games is still not cutting it, look at how Eiso, Twal, Suli and the like excelled this year because they were given a go.
As for Moylan, 1 or 7 for us next year would be a great result, onwards and upwards from now on, no more wheel spinning and sliding backwards with poor players playing every week.

I am prepared to give him (Brooks) another year in that position. Like what others have mentioned. Give him a good bunch of forwards who can dominate then you will see the change in him for the better. I will judge him then in 2018 once he has played half a dozen games with the forward pack that we have.

I agree, see how he goes next year. Ivan has stated that he feels Brooks slowly but continually improving along with the team. I don't think you can compare Brooks with the new young forwards, it's an entirely different role.

I guess we'll see where Benji is at with his #7 role this weekend…

Just wondering if Ivan is holding off re-signing JMK in case we don't need a third hooker next year??

The great thing about our squad of 30 ( 28 at the moment) is that we have depth in every position. No one should be guaranteed anything.

Our forward pack has been fantastic lately and too be honest it hasn't really shown in Brooks performances. I'm a fan and his running game has really stepped up. But no matter how good your forwards are, they don't kick on last and they don't run the team. For the first time , Brooks has competition in the halves with gamble, Marshall, Reynolds, tui and maybe even Moylan in the mix. If Brooks steps up then I'm all for him. But if he doesn't then we need to look at our options.

 

[05TIGZ]

Gone are the days where our marquee signing for the next season were the likes of Anasta and Keith Lulia. Even if Moylan or Rona don't hop on the bus, the fact we now get linked to these calibre of players shows a vast improvement for the Tigers. Cleary sure has turned this club around

Is Cleary solely responsible for that? It has nothing to do with the fact those were the only players we could afford in previous years? Now that we are out of the woods cap wise, we are actually signing quality players. Don't think that is a coincidence.

lol. Sorry, the board and Cleary have turned this club around. Former administration would've bent their backs for the Big 4 and dug us a deeper hole. I'm praising our club for something, I guess my comment was a bit too optimistic for you, was it? If so, extremely sorry. :slight_smile:

Well said Tigersbusdriver. Cleary has really turned this club around. Some people want to live in fantasy land and think JT would have been able to recruit as good as Cleary but they are dreaming.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

And you are missing the point, it is insanity to do the same thing over and over again and hope for a different result, no wonder you loved JT

Because we have no else. None of your other options are halfbacks. We're stuck with him for 2 more years. Like it or lump it.

There's a guy wearing 7 for the Broncos on Friday night in a semi final who is signed with us for next year .

People rolled their eyes when he signed for the Broncos but there he is & we haven't played a semi final since he left either .

Just sayin' …

Exactly, better league minds than GNR like Sheens, McGregor and Bennett think Benji can cut it as a 7, in fact like you say Bennett the supposed guru is trotting Benji out in a qualifying final tomorrow night as starting halfback.
We at least have to try different options at 7, because Brooks after 4 years and 82 games is still not cutting it, look at how Eiso, Twal, Suli and the like excelled this year because they were given a go.
As for Moylan, 1 or 7 for us next year would be a great result, onwards and upwards from now on, no more wheel spinning and sliding backwards with poor players playing every week.

So Marshall has been successful as a halfback. Is that what you are really trying to say?