NRL 360

[BAGNF05]

Wow , I know they not fans or WT , but not oh boy they are really hammering the club

On Bj... if you can’t make it WT you can’t make it anyway

Before James and benji go on . Ikin says we ask what benji feels how WT going after they sacked him. He was not sacked , just wasn’t re-signed

Anything we are copping at the moment is welled earned .....we are an abortion based on the 1st 2 games

Well considering it was Brooks 150th game as fans of the WT we have been waiting for him to step up, his kicking game was not great, we were playing at home should know the ground and conditions.

Think the fans have lost patience with him, he will remain this season but don't be surprised that he is shopped around in 2022, know there keen on Hastings.

WT need to bite the bullet and go and get someone who can bring a cultural shift, whatever the cost. Not Hastings.

Who then ?

Not many of them really is there, throw the house at Bellamy in a GM type role. Look at the Titans model with Meninga. It’s gotta be a game changer.

Pay Cammy 2 million to come out of retirement ?

Nah, couldn’t see that attracting the players we need. And as good as he is, he’s on very old pins.

Edit: Maybe someone like Brad Fittler who is well respected and connected in the sport. I think a kid sitting down with Freddy is more likely to sign with us than the current conglomerate. He would have links to origin and does lots in the community, he’s a pillar. That’s the kind of change we need. How much does he want?

Definitely not

Pretty sure Terry Lamb was a pillar as well . How well did that go .

I’m talking about in a GM or coaching director type role. Lots of Pascoe/Hartigan fan boys on here but it’s clear we just can’t match it with the big clubs at the recruiting game. How many of our side would make the Roosters or Storm best 17? The answer is absolutely disgusting.

At least with someone like a Fittler or a Bellamy coming in we would gain some respect and have a chance.

Two of our previous ‘duds’ just ran out for last years grand finalists.

Role players filling vacancies until others return. Momo might hold his spot as he’s doing a good job.

 

[BAGNF05]

Wow , I know they not fans or WT , but not oh boy they are really hammering the club

On Bj... if you can’t make it WT you can’t make it anyway

Before James and benji go on . Ikin says we ask what benji feels how WT going after they sacked him. He was not sacked , just wasn’t re-signed

Anything we are copping at the moment is welled earned .....we are an abortion based on the 1st 2 games

Well considering it was Brooks 150th game as fans of the WT we have been waiting for him to step up, his kicking game was not great, we were playing at home should know the ground and conditions.

Think the fans have lost patience with him, he will remain this season but don't be surprised that he is shopped around in 2022, know there keen on Hastings.

WT need to bite the bullet and go and get someone who can bring a cultural shift, whatever the cost. Not Hastings.

Who then ?

Not many of them really is there, throw the house at Bellamy in a GM type role. Look at the Titans model with Meninga. It’s gotta be a game changer.

Pay Cammy 2 million to come out of retirement ?

Nah, couldn’t see that attracting the players we need. And as good as he is, he’s on very old pins.

Edit: Maybe someone like Brad Fittler who is well respected and connected in the sport. I think a kid sitting down with Freddy is more likely to sign with us than the current conglomerate. He would have links to origin and does lots in the community, he’s a pillar. That’s the kind of change we need. How much does he want?

Definitely not

Pretty sure Terry Lamb was a pillar as well . How well did that go .

I’m talking about in a GM or coaching director type role. Lots of Pascoe/Hartigan fan boys on here but it’s clear we just can’t match it with the big clubs at the recruiting game. How many of our side would make the Roosters or Storm best 17? The answer is absolutely disgusting.

At least with someone like a Fittler or a Bellamy coming in we would gain some respect and have a chance.

Neither is going to happen, to be honest I wouldn't want Fitltler in that sort of role anyway.

I don’t think it’ll happen either, was just responding to someone who asked what I’d do to fix the club. Meninga will get the perennial battling Titans to finals this year having shown he can attract premier talent. That is the model I’d be looking to replicate.

I don't rate Fittler at all, he was a wonderful footballer but I do not think his knowledge of the game is very good at all. He was terrible coaching at the Roosters and think his success at Origin level is more about his ability to bring footballers together. I also think that Alexander plays an extremely underrated role in the NSW setup.

I am 100% talking about his ability to bring footballers together not his footy smarts. What we lack is in teamwork and (more so) personnel, I think we have a good coach

 

[cochise]

paul was very unprofessional with that comment about the club,if he was not dragged over the coals for that 360 is in a worst position then our club

Not a chance of him being spoken to about that comment. It was a very benign comment from a company that loves to sensationalise.

 

[cochise]

Wow , I know they not fans or WT , but not oh boy they are really hammering the club

On Bj... if you can’t make it WT you can’t make it anyway

Before James and benji go on . Ikin says we ask what benji feels how WT going after they sacked him. He was not sacked , just wasn’t re-signed

Anything we are copping at the moment is welled earned .....we are an abortion based on the 1st 2 games

Well considering it was Brooks 150th game as fans of the WT we have been waiting for him to step up, his kicking game was not great, we were playing at home should know the ground and conditions.

Think the fans have lost patience with him, he will remain this season but don't be surprised that he is shopped around in 2022, know there keen on Hastings.

WT need to bite the bullet and go and get someone who can bring a cultural shift, whatever the cost. Not Hastings.

Who then ?

Not many of them really is there, throw the house at Bellamy in a GM type role. Look at the Titans model with Meninga. It’s gotta be a game changer.

Pay Cammy 2 million to come out of retirement ?

Nah, couldn’t see that attracting the players we need. And as good as he is, he’s on very old pins.

Edit: Maybe someone like Brad Fittler who is well respected and connected in the sport. I think a kid sitting down with Freddy is more likely to sign with us than the current conglomerate. He would have links to origin and does lots in the community, he’s a pillar. That’s the kind of change we need. How much does he want?

Definitely not

Pretty sure Terry Lamb was a pillar as well . How well did that go .

I’m talking about in a GM or coaching director type role. Lots of Pascoe/Hartigan fan boys on here but it’s clear we just can’t match it with the big clubs at the recruiting game. How many of our side would make the Roosters or Storm best 17? The answer is absolutely disgusting.

At least with someone like a Fittler or a Bellamy coming in we would gain some respect and have a chance.

Neither is going to happen, to be honest I wouldn't want Fitltler in that sort of role anyway.

I don’t think it’ll happen either, was just responding to someone who asked what I’d do to fix the club. Meninga will get the perennial battling Titans to finals this year having shown he can attract premier talent. That is the model I’d be looking to replicate.

I don't rate Fittler at all, he was a wonderful footballer but I do not think his knowledge of the game is very good at all. He was terrible coaching at the Roosters and think his success at Origin level is more about his ability to bring footballers together. I also think that Alexander plays an extremely underrated role in the NSW setup.

I am 100% talking about his ability to bring footballers together not his footy smarts. What we lack is in teamwork and (more so) personnel, I think we have a good coach

Yes but I wouldn't want him selecting the players we are signing. He could succeed as a mentor but I wouldn't want him anywhere near any decision making role.

 

[BAGNF05]

Wow , I know they not fans or WT , but not oh boy they are really hammering the club

On Bj... if you can’t make it WT you can’t make it anyway

Before James and benji go on . Ikin says we ask what benji feels how WT going after they sacked him. He was not sacked , just wasn’t re-signed

Anything we are copping at the moment is welled earned .....we are an abortion based on the 1st 2 games

Well considering it was Brooks 150th game as fans of the WT we have been waiting for him to step up, his kicking game was not great, we were playing at home should know the ground and conditions.

Think the fans have lost patience with him, he will remain this season but don't be surprised that he is shopped around in 2022, know there keen on Hastings.

WT need to bite the bullet and go and get someone who can bring a cultural shift, whatever the cost. Not Hastings.

Who then ?

Not many of them really is there, throw the house at Bellamy in a GM type role. Look at the Titans model with Meninga. It’s gotta be a game changer.

Pay Cammy 2 million to come out of retirement ?

Nah, couldn’t see that attracting the players we need. And as good as he is, he’s on very old pins.

Edit: Maybe someone like Brad Fittler who is well respected and connected in the sport. I think a kid sitting down with Freddy is more likely to sign with us than the current conglomerate. He would have links to origin and does lots in the community, he’s a pillar. That’s the kind of change we need. How much does he want?

Definitely not

Pretty sure Terry Lamb was a pillar as well . How well did that go .

I’m talking about in a GM or coaching director type role. Lots of Pascoe/Hartigan fan boys on here but it’s clear we just can’t match it with the big clubs at the recruiting game. How many of our side would make the Roosters or Storm best 17? The answer is absolutely disgusting.

At least with someone like a Fittler or a Bellamy coming in we would gain some respect and have a chance.

Neither is going to happen, to be honest I wouldn't want Fitltler in that sort of role anyway.

I don’t think it’ll happen either, was just responding to someone who asked what I’d do to fix the club. Meninga will get the perennial battling Titans to finals this year having shown he can attract premier talent. That is the model I’d be looking to replicate.

I don't rate Fittler at all, he was a wonderful footballer but I do not think his knowledge of the game is very good at all. He was terrible coaching at the Roosters and think his success at Origin level is more about his ability to bring footballers together. I also think that Alexander plays an extremely underrated role in the NSW setup.

I am 100% talking about his ability to bring footballers together not his footy smarts. What we lack is in teamwork and (more so) personnel, I think we have a good coach

Yes but I wouldn't want him selecting the players we are signing. He could succeed as a mentor but I wouldn't want him anywhere near any decision making role.

If he’s there maybe we have a Latrell or JAC, who knows?

 

[cochise]

Wow , I know they not fans or WT , but not oh boy they are really hammering the club

On Bj... if you can’t make it WT you can’t make it anyway

Before James and benji go on . Ikin says we ask what benji feels how WT going after they sacked him. He was not sacked , just wasn’t re-signed

Anything we are copping at the moment is welled earned .....we are an abortion based on the 1st 2 games

Well considering it was Brooks 150th game as fans of the WT we have been waiting for him to step up, his kicking game was not great, we were playing at home should know the ground and conditions.

Think the fans have lost patience with him, he will remain this season but don't be surprised that he is shopped around in 2022, know there keen on Hastings.

WT need to bite the bullet and go and get someone who can bring a cultural shift, whatever the cost. Not Hastings.

Who then ?

Not many of them really is there, throw the house at Bellamy in a GM type role. Look at the Titans model with Meninga. It’s gotta be a game changer.

Pay Cammy 2 million to come out of retirement ?

Nah, couldn’t see that attracting the players we need. And as good as he is, he’s on very old pins.

Edit: Maybe someone like Brad Fittler who is well respected and connected in the sport. I think a kid sitting down with Freddy is more likely to sign with us than the current conglomerate. He would have links to origin and does lots in the community, he’s a pillar. That’s the kind of change we need. How much does he want?

Definitely not

Pretty sure Terry Lamb was a pillar as well . How well did that go .

I’m talking about in a GM or coaching director type role. Lots of Pascoe/Hartigan fan boys on here but it’s clear we just can’t match it with the big clubs at the recruiting game. How many of our side would make the Roosters or Storm best 17? The answer is absolutely disgusting.

At least with someone like a Fittler or a Bellamy coming in we would gain some respect and have a chance.

Neither is going to happen, to be honest I wouldn't want Fitltler in that sort of role anyway.

I don’t think it’ll happen either, was just responding to someone who asked what I’d do to fix the club. Meninga will get the perennial battling Titans to finals this year having shown he can attract premier talent. That is the model I’d be looking to replicate.

I don't rate Fittler at all, he was a wonderful footballer but I do not think his knowledge of the game is very good at all. He was terrible coaching at the Roosters and think his success at Origin level is more about his ability to bring footballers together. I also think that Alexander plays an extremely underrated role in the NSW setup.

I am 100% talking about his ability to bring footballers together not his footy smarts. What we lack is in teamwork and (more so) personnel, I think we have a good coach

Yes but I wouldn't want him selecting the players we are signing. He could succeed as a mentor but I wouldn't want him anywhere near any decision making role.

If he’s there maybe we have a Latrell or JAC, who knows?

Yeah but you want to sign him as a GM or coaching director. He would be a failure in those roles.

 

[BAGNF05]

Wow , I know they not fans or WT , but not oh boy they are really hammering the club

On Bj... if you can’t make it WT you can’t make it anyway

Before James and benji go on . Ikin says we ask what benji feels how WT going after they sacked him. He was not sacked , just wasn’t re-signed

Anything we are copping at the moment is welled earned .....we are an abortion based on the 1st 2 games

Well considering it was Brooks 150th game as fans of the WT we have been waiting for him to step up, his kicking game was not great, we were playing at home should know the ground and conditions.

Think the fans have lost patience with him, he will remain this season but don't be surprised that he is shopped around in 2022, know there keen on Hastings.

WT need to bite the bullet and go and get someone who can bring a cultural shift, whatever the cost. Not Hastings.

Who then ?

Not many of them really is there, throw the house at Bellamy in a GM type role. Look at the Titans model with Meninga. It’s gotta be a game changer.

Pay Cammy 2 million to come out of retirement ?

Nah, couldn’t see that attracting the players we need. And as good as he is, he’s on very old pins.

Edit: Maybe someone like Brad Fittler who is well respected and connected in the sport. I think a kid sitting down with Freddy is more likely to sign with us than the current conglomerate. He would have links to origin and does lots in the community, he’s a pillar. That’s the kind of change we need. How much does he want?

Definitely not

Pretty sure Terry Lamb was a pillar as well . How well did that go .

I’m talking about in a GM or coaching director type role. Lots of Pascoe/Hartigan fan boys on here but it’s clear we just can’t match it with the big clubs at the recruiting game. How many of our side would make the Roosters or Storm best 17? The answer is absolutely disgusting.

At least with someone like a Fittler or a Bellamy coming in we would gain some respect and have a chance.

Neither is going to happen, to be honest I wouldn't want Fitltler in that sort of role anyway.

I don’t think it’ll happen either, was just responding to someone who asked what I’d do to fix the club. Meninga will get the perennial battling Titans to finals this year having shown he can attract premier talent. That is the model I’d be looking to replicate.

I don't rate Fittler at all, he was a wonderful footballer but I do not think his knowledge of the game is very good at all. He was terrible coaching at the Roosters and think his success at Origin level is more about his ability to bring footballers together. I also think that Alexander plays an extremely underrated role in the NSW setup.

I am 100% talking about his ability to bring footballers together not his footy smarts. What we lack is in teamwork and (more so) personnel, I think we have a good coach

Yes but I wouldn't want him selecting the players we are signing. He could succeed as a mentor but I wouldn't want him anywhere near any decision making role.

If he’s there maybe we have a Latrell or JAC, who knows?

Yeah but you want to sign him as a GM or coaching director. He would be a failure in those roles.

I don’t care what role he has or even if it’s him we target, all I know is elite players wack it in reverse when we approach. That’s the problem that needs addressing. Titans have fixed it with Mal so clearly it’s a strategy worth consideration.

 

[cochise]

Wow , I know they not fans or WT , but not oh boy they are really hammering the club

On Bj... if you can’t make it WT you can’t make it anyway

Before James and benji go on . Ikin says we ask what benji feels how WT going after they sacked him. He was not sacked , just wasn’t re-signed

Anything we are copping at the moment is welled earned .....we are an abortion based on the 1st 2 games

Well considering it was Brooks 150th game as fans of the WT we have been waiting for him to step up, his kicking game was not great, we were playing at home should know the ground and conditions.

Think the fans have lost patience with him, he will remain this season but don't be surprised that he is shopped around in 2022, know there keen on Hastings.

WT need to bite the bullet and go and get someone who can bring a cultural shift, whatever the cost. Not Hastings.

Who then ?

Not many of them really is there, throw the house at Bellamy in a GM type role. Look at the Titans model with Meninga. It’s gotta be a game changer.

Pay Cammy 2 million to come out of retirement ?

Nah, couldn’t see that attracting the players we need. And as good as he is, he’s on very old pins.

Edit: Maybe someone like Brad Fittler who is well respected and connected in the sport. I think a kid sitting down with Freddy is more likely to sign with us than the current conglomerate. He would have links to origin and does lots in the community, he’s a pillar. That’s the kind of change we need. How much does he want?

Definitely not

Pretty sure Terry Lamb was a pillar as well . How well did that go .

I’m talking about in a GM or coaching director type role. Lots of Pascoe/Hartigan fan boys on here but it’s clear we just can’t match it with the big clubs at the recruiting game. How many of our side would make the Roosters or Storm best 17? The answer is absolutely disgusting.

At least with someone like a Fittler or a Bellamy coming in we would gain some respect and have a chance.

Neither is going to happen, to be honest I wouldn't want Fitltler in that sort of role anyway.

I don’t think it’ll happen either, was just responding to someone who asked what I’d do to fix the club. Meninga will get the perennial battling Titans to finals this year having shown he can attract premier talent. That is the model I’d be looking to replicate.

I don't rate Fittler at all, he was a wonderful footballer but I do not think his knowledge of the game is very good at all. He was terrible coaching at the Roosters and think his success at Origin level is more about his ability to bring footballers together. I also think that Alexander plays an extremely underrated role in the NSW setup.

I am 100% talking about his ability to bring footballers together not his footy smarts. What we lack is in teamwork and (more so) personnel, I think we have a good coach

Yes but I wouldn't want him selecting the players we are signing. He could succeed as a mentor but I wouldn't want him anywhere near any decision making role.

If he’s there maybe we have a Latrell or JAC, who knows?

Yeah but you want to sign him as a GM or coaching director. He would be a failure in those roles.

I don’t care what role he has or even if it’s him we target, all I know is elite players wack it in reverse when we approach. That’s the problem that needs addressing. Titans have fixed it with Mal so clearly it’s a strategy worth consideration.

Yes it is a strategy that you could employ, but you would want a better target than Fittler for the role.

 

[Merlot]

maybe easier 2spend 60% of cap on4 players ,seems the way these days

 

[mike]

Wow , I know they not fans or WT , but not oh boy they are really hammering the club

On Bj... if you can’t make it WT you can’t make it anyway

Before James and benji go on . Ikin says we ask what benji feels how WT going after they sacked him. He was not sacked , just wasn’t re-signed

Anything we are copping at the moment is welled earned .....we are an abortion based on the 1st 2 games

Well considering it was Brooks 150th game as fans of the WT we have been waiting for him to step up, his kicking game was not great, we were playing at home should know the ground and conditions.

Think the fans have lost patience with him, he will remain this season but don't be surprised that he is shopped around in 2022, know there keen on Hastings.

WT need to bite the bullet and go and get someone who can bring a cultural shift, whatever the cost. Not Hastings.

Who then ?

Not many of them really is there, throw the house at Bellamy in a GM type role. Look at the Titans model with Meninga. It’s gotta be a game changer.

Pay Cammy 2 million to come out of retirement ?

Nah, couldn’t see that attracting the players we need. And as good as he is, he’s on very old pins.

Edit: Maybe someone like Brad Fittler who is well respected and connected in the sport. I think a kid sitting down with Freddy is more likely to sign with us than the current conglomerate. He would have links to origin and does lots in the community, he’s a pillar. That’s the kind of change we need. How much does he want?

Definitely not

Pretty sure Terry Lamb was a pillar as well . How well did that go .

I’m talking about in a GM or coaching director type role. Lots of Pascoe/Hartigan fan boys on here but it’s clear we just can’t match it with the big clubs at the recruiting game. How many of our side would make the Roosters or Storm best 17? The answer is absolutely disgusting.

At least with someone like a Fittler or a Bellamy coming in we would gain some respect and have a chance.

Neither is going to happen, to be honest I wouldn't want Fitltler in that sort of role anyway.

Fitler is a deadset joke. You wouldn’t want him in any near the football team. Great player, horrible coach and mentor.

 

[tbones10]

Still reeling from NRL 360 on Tuesday night when Kent said, if you can't make at the west tigers, no other club will have you, and the possible validity of that statement, what do you blokes think.
Regards getting a mentor/Meninga role, all for it, but can't think of anyone decent as all the names thrown up a rubbish and are definite no's.
Fittler: a joke and he would make it all about himself, by the way hadn't seen him for a bit, saw him on the tv on Sunday, does it look like he has had some work done?
Joey: a joke, never has anything good to say about us and tears the game down like Gould used to, makes ridiculous statements to make headlines and again would make himself the centre of attention.

No one of relevance since the merger that doesn't have a stigma/cloud over them (especially Robbie and Benji), no one from the glory days of both clubs has any relevance to the modern game (especially Blocker,Benny and Tommy).

Any other ideas?

 

[Russell]

Excuse me for asking but how exactly were his comments damaging?
He could've possibly worded it better but my take from what others have said (about his 360 appearance) is that there were some things said as well.

I think he didn't need to add the 'Madge tried going hard and that didn't work' comment. (I didn't see it, just read it second hand so apologies if I got it wrong).

I am personally sick of the 'Madge is too tough' narrative. I think it's exaggerated in any case. But does anyone think, for instance, Madge should be cuddly and gentle with BJ after last week?

Which is why I pointed out possibly rewording it.
I understand there's a clear agenda with the media on this but everyone's keeps saying the only way to get rid of it, is to win games so the narrative changes.
My question is why even focus on this when there's bigger problems?
None of that influences how we perform.

I think it comforts fans that actually don't think we have a problem.

It’s clear we have a problem . We have had 1 winning season in 10 years , and no finals . But what are you going to do ? Get the pitch forks out , which hasn’t worked either for 10 years , or concentrate on the positives , and the growth that we have made . And IMO winning the games we did win the last few years , was the real masking going on . I’m glad we suck, in some ways , as , it will expose truths in the playing squad and hopefully regenerate . I’m just wary of it being too soon . I think the right playing decisions have been made , and I don’t see how the CEO who you hate has to do with on field performance ? It’s completely irrelevant.

I don't see how a CEO cannot be responsible for results right across the organisation after 6 years. But anyway we've been through it before.... we disagree.

Yep . I agree with what your saying , in principal , in a holistic view , just not in the day to day . Because at the end of the day he’s not the one formulating game plans , executing training regimes , or executing the game plan on game day .
I don’t know , the NRL sux , it’s the only sporting conpetition in the world outside of the Scottish premier league , where there’s really no change to who the final 4 teams are . If ever a comp is dying for a draft it’s ours .

Personally, I would rather the game die than have a draft introduced. Just my opinion.

 

[TCL]

We shouldn't be shocked or disappointed in the show. The tigers are a team that has a large following. if we are playing bad there will be a lot of articles on how bad we are. if were winning there would be a lot positive articles.

I know i am stating the obvious but sometimes we just need to remind our selves of the obvious.

 

[twentyforty]

Still reeling from NRL 360 on Tuesday night when Kent said, if you can't make at the west tigers, no other club will have you, and the possible validity of that statement, what do you blokes think.
Regards getting a mentor/Meninga role, all for it, but can't think of anyone decent as all the names thrown up a rubbish and are definite no's.
Fittler: a joke and he would make it all about himself, by the way hadn't seen him for a bit, saw him on the tv on Sunday, does it look like he has had some work done?
Joey: a joke, never has anything good to say about us and tears the game down like Gould used to, makes ridiculous statements to make headlines and again would make himself the centre of attention.

No one of relevance since the merger that doesn't have a stigma/cloud over them (especially Robbie and Benji), no one from the glory days of both clubs has any relevance to the modern game (especially Blocker,Benny and Tommy).

Any other ideas?

Still reeling from NRL 360 on Tuesday night when Kent said, if you can't make at the west tigers, no other club will have you, and the possible validity of that statement, what do you blokes think.
Regards getting a mentor/Meninga role, all for it, but can't think of anyone decent as all the names thrown up a rubbish and are definite no's.
Fittler: a joke and he would make it all about himself, by the way hadn't seen him for a bit, saw him on the tv on Sunday, does it look like he has had some work done?
Joey: a joke, never has anything good to say about us and tears the game down like Gould used to, makes ridiculous statements to make headlines and again would make himself the centre of attention.

No one of relevance since the merger that doesn't have a stigma/cloud over them (especially Robbie and Benji), no one from the glory days of both clubs has any relevance to the modern game (especially Blocker,Benny and Tommy).

Any other ideas?

Tbone, is it possible that criticism is a good thing? Don’t you think we should be grateful for it? I wonder why some organisations spend big money to garner criticism from customers?
I put criticism into 2 categories. With and without substance regardless of the reputation of the messenger, and discard one of those groups. I would rather they criticise us than say nothing. Regarding the relevance of the relics..that’s what we have, I think it’s great to see guys like Sironen in the club.

 

[Russell]

Benjis comments were bittter, we’re still better off without him you can’t tell me he’d be happy here to sit on the bench or worse still play reggies. He won’t mutter a word about it if it happens at south’s. He thinks he is bigger than the club and has a god given right to be chosen because of what he’s done in the past. That’s why he was let go because if that were to happen here he’d constantly be mouthing off in the media, he’s doing it now but apparently hasn’t thought of us since October.

And yes our efforts and performance have gone up accordingly

Absolutely would've been trounced by 60 if he was still here.

So I assume you are happy with the effort last 2 games stop making excuses after excuses for their inept performance. And trying to justify their performance by saying it would have been 60 if Marshall was still there is lame very lame move on from Benji and look at the person at the helm

Now If you still think Marshall is God's gift to Rugby League, good for you....I think he has proved he isn't God's gift to the Tigers over the past few years....we still haven't made the finals. It is a general opinion that he produces a turnstyle defence, so it is not a big stretch to consider that he would have let in another few tries to add 20 more to the score.

I am not making up any excuses for any player or the team... I am offering (if at all) a possible reason why someone is struggling or why the teams performance is below expectations. At least half of the posters on here have totally unreal expectations (not sure of what yours are, given the situation the club has found itself in).

I do not accept mediocrity by the way (this gets thrown around far too much) but I have patience, that the ones that can will overcome the setbacks we have had, right the ship and go on to make the finals.

Now if you can't see the difference between reasoning about something and making excuses .... You just go back to being your negative self and have another beer - myself I prefer to be positive about our team and most of it's players.

 

[Russell]

paul was very unprofessional with that comment about the club,if he was not dragged over the coals for that 360 is in a worst position then our club

His words “if he can’t make FG at Wests he won’t make it at another club”. I’d say pretty fair given how inept we have looked so far and how clinical lots of other teams have looked. Truth hurts.

Same could be said about him I would have thought.

 

[rihannafan1]

Still reeling from NRL 360 on Tuesday night when Kent said, if you can't make at the west tigers, no other club will have you, and the possible validity of that statement, what do you blokes think.
Regards getting a mentor/Meninga role, all for it, but can't think of anyone decent as all the names thrown up a rubbish and are definite no's.
Fittler: a joke and he would make it all about himself, by the way hadn't seen him for a bit, saw him on the tv on Sunday, does it look like he has had some work done?
Joey: a joke, never has anything good to say about us and tears the game down like Gould used to, makes ridiculous statements to make headlines and again would make himself the centre of attention.

No one of relevance since the merger that doesn't have a stigma/cloud over them (especially Robbie and Benji), no one from the glory days of both clubs has any relevance to the modern game (especially Blocker,Benny and Tommy).

Any other ideas?

Joey is actually pretty fair to us. You watch Freddy and the 8th? I think his analysis is pretty spot on.

I get where Kent is coming from albeit a little misguided. There are a lot of players who couldn't make it with us who signed elsewhere to do much better things.

But a clearer explanation of strategy would help. From the outside looking in we seem really desperate. Signing Packer, Matulino, Mbye, Reynolds on big coin. Picking up Roberts, Musgrove, Amone, the scraps from Souths. Getting BJ from Canberra and Ofa from Brisbane, players who weren't in high demand. Swapping for Laurie even though we had already signed him. An apparent SOS to Hastings, who plays in Super League. All of this is high risk, high reward which is not a healthy way to build.

All I hope is they get off Mbye's massive deal at the end of the season and make a savvier purchase in place of that. You'd hope Hastings is nothing above 400k.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Excuse me for asking but how exactly were his comments damaging?
He could've possibly worded it better but my take from what others have said (about his 360 appearance) is that there were some things said as well.

I think he didn't need to add the 'Madge tried going hard and that didn't work' comment. (I didn't see it, just read it second hand so apologies if I got it wrong).

I am personally sick of the 'Madge is too tough' narrative. I think it's exaggerated in any case. But does anyone think, for instance, Madge should be cuddly and gentle with BJ after last week?

Which is why I pointed out possibly rewording it.
I understand there's a clear agenda with the media on this but everyone's keeps saying the only way to get rid of it, is to win games so the narrative changes.
My question is why even focus on this when there's bigger problems?
None of that influences how we perform.

I think it comforts fans that actually don't think we have a problem.

It’s clear we have a problem . We have had 1 winning season in 10 years , and no finals . But what are you going to do ? Get the pitch forks out , which hasn’t worked either for 10 years , or concentrate on the positives , and the growth that we have made . And IMO winning the games we did win the last few years , was the real masking going on . I’m glad we suck, in some ways , as , it will expose truths in the playing squad and hopefully regenerate . I’m just wary of it being too soon . I think the right playing decisions have been made , and I don’t see how the CEO who you hate has to do with on field performance ? It’s completely irrelevant.

I don't see how a CEO cannot be responsible for results right across the organisation after 6 years. But anyway we've been through it before.... we disagree.

Yep . I agree with what your saying , in principal , in a holistic view , just not in the day to day . Because at the end of the day he’s not the one formulating game plans , executing training regimes , or executing the game plan on game day .
I don’t know , the NRL sux , it’s the only sporting conpetition in the world outside of the Scottish premier league , where there’s really no change to who the final 4 teams are . If ever a comp is dying for a draft it’s ours .

Personally, I would rather the game die than have a draft introduced. Just my opinion.

Why’s that ? Just as a general question ?

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Still reeling from NRL 360 on Tuesday night when Kent said, if you can't make at the west tigers, no other club will have you, and the possible validity of that statement, what do you blokes think.
Regards getting a mentor/Meninga role, all for it, but can't think of anyone decent as all the names thrown up a rubbish and are definite no's.
Fittler: a joke and he would make it all about himself, by the way hadn't seen him for a bit, saw him on the tv on Sunday, does it look like he has had some work done?
Joey: a joke, never has anything good to say about us and tears the game down like Gould used to, makes ridiculous statements to make headlines and again would make himself the centre of attention.

No one of relevance since the merger that doesn't have a stigma/cloud over them (especially Robbie and Benji), no one from the glory days of both clubs has any relevance to the modern game (especially Blocker,Benny and Tommy).

Any other ideas?

Still reeling from NRL 360 on Tuesday night when Kent said, if you can't make at the west tigers, no other club will have you, and the possible validity of that statement, what do you blokes think.
Regards getting a mentor/Meninga role, all for it, but can't think of anyone decent as all the names thrown up a rubbish and are definite no's.
Fittler: a joke and he would make it all about himself, by the way hadn't seen him for a bit, saw him on the tv on Sunday, does it look like he has had some work done?
Joey: a joke, never has anything good to say about us and tears the game down like Gould used to, makes ridiculous statements to make headlines and again would make himself the centre of attention.

No one of relevance since the merger that doesn't have a stigma/cloud over them (especially Robbie and Benji), no one from the glory days of both clubs has any relevance to the modern game (especially Blocker,Benny and Tommy).

Any other ideas?

Tbone, is it possible that criticism is a good thing? Don’t you think we should be grateful for it? I wonder why some organisations spend big money to garner criticism from customers?
I put criticism into 2 categories. With and without substance regardless of the reputation of the messenger, and discard one of those groups. I would rather they criticise us than say nothing. Regarding the relevance of the relics..that’s what we have, I think it’s great to see guys like Sironen in the club.

Yea good point . My concern is the agenda that drives it . If all people Mr Agenda Phil Gould , referenced it in his podcast about bagging players to protect mates , and clubs who give info , or clubs they have ties too , etc . Like Crawley , who I think is shutout from the Tigers . Is it criticism really , or is it a vendetta . It’s hard to know , and what tends to happen is when you don’t trust the source or respect the source , then no matter how truthful what thier saying is , we all just dismiss it as rubbish . For good reason , because it’s not about helping you , it’s all about kicking dead bodies .
Chammas and Brent Read seems to be our only media advocates , but unfortunately neither has a big enough platform . Like when Brent Reed is on these panel shows , he gets shouted down by the News Media boys club.
I would love for a Channel 10 / Amazon/ ESPN /Netflix , package to take over and get media rights . If only to just get some fresh opinions .

 

[eyewondertwo]

The show has a real boys show mentality,which I get, as all the footy shows have been since Rex Mossops controversy corner.
It’s pretty ugly one upmanship and the male ego runs rampant
When the young lady does speak she speaks factually before they speak over her
Perhaps I’ll dodge the show until the team has a win
Hopefully that soon