@kul said in [NRL\. Anti\-Vaxers\.\.](/post/1519835) said:
My belief is that those who aren't vaccinate are unsafe so I don't want them near my team.
How does one being unvaccinated have a bearing on the safety of the vaccinated? As we can see, the vaccinated are spreading this virus like a wild fire. Its like me saying "Kul put your sunscreen on so I dont get burnt".
The unvaccinated are more likely to spread the virus than those who are and also are more likely to spread the virus than vaccinated people.
Also unvaccinated far more likely to require hospitalisation and utilisation of stretch medical resources. *That means for every avoidable unvaccinated hospitalised case you lose a bed for a vaccinated person who requires a hospital stay for any other medical emergency.*
Do you happen to read what you type before you post ?
I'd have to say you don't.
Otherwise you'd see what an obnoxious, self righteous, arrogant piece of dirt you sound like. Your last sentence should be a cause for shame, but you wouldn't see it.
I hope someone you love doesn't need a hospital bed that's taken up by an idiot that got vaccinated and thought he was above everyone else and went from crowded venue to crowded venue. And caught the virus, despite his vax status. And then spread the virus despite his vax status.
Then ended up in hospital denying your gravely ill mother a bed.
But it's OK, you can just tell her the bloke in the bed was fully vaccinated.
Fire up mate.
If you get vaccinated and you still get COVID, then you've basically done your utmost. Isolating is good as well, but we can't all live in huts with locked doors for the rest of our lives, and going about your ordinary business on a daily basis is a pretty reasonable lifestyle goal for most of us.
My brother in law caught COVID two weeks ago and he didn't do anything at all except go to work and attend one low-key Christmas party. He's fully vaxxed, he was ill for a day, he passed it to his wife, she's fully vaxxed and OK as well. My kid's school was closed two weeks early before Christmas because 4 kids got COVID from a soccer gala day. Omicron doesn't need people to spend all day in sweaty nightclubs or singing at the top of their lungs at 5 karaoke bars to spread. It does not require flamboyant or excessive behaviour.
Vaccination plus boosters offer very high protection against hospitalisation vs unvaccination. There's no debate on it. The hospitals are not currently being flooded with a overload of the vaccinated.
Being unvaccinated is a decision to avoid our main weapon in the fight against COVID. There's no better strategy than vaccination. If someone was to choose to be unvaccinated and avoid people forever, so be it, that's also an effective if unrealistic strategy.
And it means therefore, yes, something like 70-95% of unvaccinated COVID hospitalisations, depending on the vaccine and booster status, are potentially avoidable.
Avoidable hospitalisations are, unfortunately, the dumbest things we can do to ourselves as a society, and yes that also includes lifestyle comorbidities like smoking, obesity, unmanaged diabetes etc.