NRL. Anti-Vaxers..

[cktiger]

Here is the reaction to what some of the intellectually challenged have come out with in response to the NRL Covid restrictions….

Canberra Raiders and NSW Blues five-eighth Jack Wighton, “Thought I was getting the stupid vax so I didn't have to put up with this shit".

Josh Addo-Carr, "Unbelievable, got double vaxed for (nothing)"

Latrell Mitchell, “WTF?".

They are NRL players and not Rocket Scientists for a reason.

Yeah and the players make an excellent point. Using vaccination as the ONLY method of dealing with this pandemic is floored, idiotic, and the results are there for all to see. Been 2 years and we still going round in circles.

As it stands, there is no treatment for covid until your lungs are damaged and you cant breathe. You are then advised to go to hospital (ahh too late perhaps?).

A better way is giving EARLY medical care (which exist via many different forms of effective medicines - ivrmctn, hydroxychloroquin, even quercetin). This way people would stay out of hospital, we wouldnt have lockdowns, and we get on with life again

Not correct at all.

Nobody is using vaccination as the only method of dealing with pandemic.

And the word is "flawed".

Do u feel better now that you can spell?

What else we using to deal with the virus? Dont say social distancing, masks etc

Social distancing, masks etc.

Self isolation for positive cases and close contacts.
Critical access restrictions for hospitals, aged care, other vulnerable locations.
Previous restrictions on unvaccinated and ongoing restrictions on their travel.
Specialised COVID units within hospitals and rapid in-hospital testing to identify and isolate positive cases at admission.
Experienced COVID care response for positive serious cases including oxygen support, extra ventilators, antivirals, dex etc.
Free PCR tests for all suspected cases.

Imperfect but an advanced strategy compared to January 2020.

You previously advocated early-administration [censored] - you lose all credibility as soon as you say that.

edit: don't know why ivrmctn was censored, so here it is [sic]

Thanks for highlighting my point so succinctly. There is no treatment for covid until you have deteriorated enough, that you cannot breathe, and your lungs are damaged. Then you are asked to go to hospital to be put on a ventilator. Instead of treating Covid EARLY SO PEOPLE DO NOT NEED HOSPITALS! Thanks again.

You can’t treat it early … no matter what dribble you read.
If you could I would be taking it right now.
I’m sitting here suffering from Covid, not long after beating throat cancer, with a vastly depleted immune system.
If I had not had both jabs (was due for a booster next week) I imagine I’d be back in hospital fighting for my life again right now.
Instead I’m almost happy I have caught it … to help make my immunity to it even stronger.

We sometimes butt heads on the odd topic, particularly Brooks, though as I wrote during the kerfuffle here a little while back, many of us know a little and more about each other in this forum community.

As such, wishing you a speedy recovery from it CK, especially considering your throat issue, of which I was previously unaware. Not good for a decent chunk of our community, though for most the Omicron strain is still a much better alternative than that of Delta, so good luck to all.

Thanks FG.
Doubt we'll ever agree on Brooksy but, in reality, these are pretty trivial issues.
To be honest I didn't think of Brooks once while getting blasted with radiation and pumped with chemo lol
Anyways ... we are a forum of blokes and ladies who will never agree on everything.
We are a family that follows the Tigers, and like most families, there will be times when we bicker or anger each other with our ideas.
In the end we all cheer for our team as a unit no matter our differences.
Thanks for the kind words ... much appreciated after being to hell and back.

 

[paul wright]

There will always be individual cases that give damning proof that one or the other side of the discussion is right, in those individual circumstances…


Hogwash,the anti vaxers have no proof just endless speculation and misinformation.

Yep but it's actually worse than that and the anti-vaxxers on this forum have really shown me the light. They are playing a political game.

The misinformation is all political. Facts don't matter. They are playing a political game.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/blackfishing-alt-right-pushes-to-co-opt-aboriginal-tent-embassy-to-cause-20220105-p59lzj.html

This article shows how bad these people are. The absolute scum of society.

This is all a direct flow on from the extreme right in USA politics,as bad and misleading as it is here and in many other countries it is far worse in the USA.

 

[paul wright]

Here is the reaction to what some of the intellectually challenged have come out with in response to the NRL Covid restrictions….

Canberra Raiders and NSW Blues five-eighth Jack Wighton, “Thought I was getting the stupid vax so I didn't have to put up with this shit".

Josh Addo-Carr, "Unbelievable, got double vaxed for (nothing)"

Latrell Mitchell, “WTF?".

They are NRL players and not Rocket Scientists for a reason.

Yeah and the players make an excellent point. Using vaccination as the ONLY method of dealing with this pandemic is floored, idiotic, and the results are there for all to see. Been 2 years and we still going round in circles.

As it stands, there is no treatment for covid until your lungs are damaged and you cant breathe. You are then advised to go to hospital (ahh too late perhaps?).

A better way is giving EARLY medical care (which exist via many different forms of effective medicines - ivrmctn, hydroxychloroquin, even quercetin). This way people would stay out of hospital, we wouldnt have lockdowns, and we get on with life again

Not correct at all.

Nobody is using vaccination as the only method of dealing with pandemic.

And the word is "flawed".

Do u feel better now that you can spell?

What else we using to deal with the virus? Dont say social distancing, masks etc

Social distancing, masks etc.

Self isolation for positive cases and close contacts.
Critical access restrictions for hospitals, aged care, other vulnerable locations.
Previous restrictions on unvaccinated and ongoing restrictions on their travel.
Specialised COVID units within hospitals and rapid in-hospital testing to identify and isolate positive cases at admission.
Experienced COVID care response for positive serious cases including oxygen support, extra ventilators, antivirals, dex etc.
Free PCR tests for all suspected cases.

Imperfect but an advanced strategy compared to January 2020.

You previously advocated early-administration [censored] - you lose all credibility as soon as you say that.

edit: don't know why ivrmctn was censored, so here it is [sic]

Thanks for highlighting my point so succinctly. There is no treatment for covid until you have deteriorated enough, that you cannot breathe, and your lungs are damaged. Then you are asked to go to hospital to be put on a ventilator. Instead of treating Covid EARLY SO PEOPLE DO NOT NEED HOSPITALS! Thanks again.

You can’t treat it early … no matter what dribble you read.
If you could I would be taking it right now.
I’m sitting here suffering from Covid, not long after beating throat cancer, with a vastly depleted immune system.
If I had not had both jabs (was due for a booster next week) I imagine I’d be back in hospital fighting for my life again right now.
Instead I’m almost happy I have caught it … to help make my immunity to it even stronger.

We sometimes butt heads on the odd topic, particularly Brooks, though as I wrote during the kerfuffle here a little while back, many of us know a little and more about each other in this forum community.

As such, wishing you a speedy recovery from it CK, especially considering your throat issue, of which I was previously unaware. Not good for a decent chunk of our community, though for most the Omicron strain is still a much better alternative than that of Delta, so good luck to all.

Thanks FG.
Doubt we'll ever agree on Brooksy but, in reality, these are pretty trivial issues.
To be honest I didn't think of Brooks once while getting blasted with radiation and pumped with chemo lol
Anyways ... we are a forum of blokes and ladies who will never agree on everything.
We are a family that follows the Tigers, and like most families, there will be times when we bicker or anger each other with our ideas.
In the end we all cheer for our team as a unit no matter our differences.
Thanks for the kind words ... much appreciated after being to hell and back.

I hope that you have a complete recovery from both of those terrible scourges.Stay safe

 

[philgood]

Here is the reaction to what some of the intellectually challenged have come out with in response to the NRL Covid restrictions….

Canberra Raiders and NSW Blues five-eighth Jack Wighton, “Thought I was getting the stupid vax so I didn't have to put up with this shit".

Josh Addo-Carr, "Unbelievable, got double vaxed for (nothing)"

Latrell Mitchell, “WTF?".

They are NRL players and not Rocket Scientists for a reason.

Yeah and the players make an excellent point. Using vaccination as the ONLY method of dealing with this pandemic is floored, idiotic, and the results are there for all to see. Been 2 years and we still going round in circles.

As it stands, there is no treatment for covid until your lungs are damaged and you cant breathe. You are then advised to go to hospital (ahh too late perhaps?).

A better way is giving EARLY medical care (which exist via many different forms of effective medicines - ivrmctn, hydroxychloroquin, even quercetin). This way people would stay out of hospital, we wouldnt have lockdowns, and we get on with life again

Not correct at all.

Nobody is using vaccination as the only method of dealing with pandemic.

And the word is "flawed".

Do u feel better now that you can spell?

What else we using to deal with the virus? Dont say social distancing, masks etc

Social distancing, masks etc.

Self isolation for positive cases and close contacts.
Critical access restrictions for hospitals, aged care, other vulnerable locations.
Previous restrictions on unvaccinated and ongoing restrictions on their travel.
Specialised COVID units within hospitals and rapid in-hospital testing to identify and isolate positive cases at admission.
Experienced COVID care response for positive serious cases including oxygen support, extra ventilators, antivirals, dex etc.
Free PCR tests for all suspected cases.

Imperfect but an advanced strategy compared to January 2020.

You previously advocated early-administration [censored] - you lose all credibility as soon as you say that.

edit: don't know why ivrmctn was censored, so here it is [sic]

Thanks for highlighting my point so succinctly. There is no treatment for covid until you have deteriorated enough, that you cannot breathe, and your lungs are damaged. Then you are asked to go to hospital to be put on a ventilator. Instead of treating Covid EARLY SO PEOPLE DO NOT NEED HOSPITALS! Thanks again.

You can’t treat it early … no matter what dribble you read.
If you could I would be taking it right now.
I’m sitting here suffering from Covid, not long after beating throat cancer, with a vastly depleted immune system.
If I had not had both jabs (was due for a booster next week) I imagine I’d be back in hospital fighting for my life again right now.
Instead I’m almost happy I have caught it … to help make my immunity to it even stronger.

Overwhelming evidence that ivrmectin and hydroxychloroquin (amongst many other drugs) treat it early. Esteemed doctors like Dr Zelenko, Peter Mcullogh, Dr Scott Jensen amonst a host of others treated thousands of patients during the first outbreak in 2020 with overwhelming success.

 

[innsaneink]

Yeah good luck CK ✊

 

[tiger_one]

No more covid thread, so I'll just leave this here:

It's spread is everywhere.
So, best of luck to everyone - keep strong and get well to anyone who comes down with this.

 

[jirskyr]

Here is the reaction to what some of the intellectually challenged have come out with in response to the NRL Covid restrictions….

Canberra Raiders and NSW Blues five-eighth Jack Wighton, “Thought I was getting the stupid vax so I didn't have to put up with this shit".

Josh Addo-Carr, "Unbelievable, got double vaxed for (nothing)"

Latrell Mitchell, “WTF?".

They are NRL players and not Rocket Scientists for a reason.

Yeah and the players make an excellent point. Using vaccination as the ONLY method of dealing with this pandemic is floored, idiotic, and the results are there for all to see. Been 2 years and we still going round in circles.

As it stands, there is no treatment for covid until your lungs are damaged and you cant breathe. You are then advised to go to hospital (ahh too late perhaps?).

A better way is giving EARLY medical care (which exist via many different forms of effective medicines - ivrmctn, hydroxychloroquin, even quercetin). This way people would stay out of hospital, we wouldnt have lockdowns, and we get on with life again

Not correct at all.

Nobody is using vaccination as the only method of dealing with pandemic.

And the word is "flawed".

Do u feel better now that you can spell?

What else we using to deal with the virus? Dont say social distancing, masks etc

Social distancing, masks etc.

Self isolation for positive cases and close contacts.
Critical access restrictions for hospitals, aged care, other vulnerable locations.
Previous restrictions on unvaccinated and ongoing restrictions on their travel.
Specialised COVID units within hospitals and rapid in-hospital testing to identify and isolate positive cases at admission.
Experienced COVID care response for positive serious cases including oxygen support, extra ventilators, antivirals, dex etc.
Free PCR tests for all suspected cases.

Imperfect but an advanced strategy compared to January 2020.

You previously advocated early-administration [censored] - you lose all credibility as soon as you say that.

edit: don't know why ivrmctn was censored, so here it is [sic]

Thanks for highlighting my point so succinctly. There is no treatment for covid until you have deteriorated enough, that you cannot breathe, and your lungs are damaged. Then you are asked to go to hospital to be put on a ventilator. Instead of treating Covid EARLY SO PEOPLE DO NOT NEED HOSPITALS! Thanks again.

You can’t treat it early … no matter what dribble you read.
If you could I would be taking it right now.
I’m sitting here suffering from Covid, not long after beating throat cancer, with a vastly depleted immune system.
If I had not had both jabs (was due for a booster next week) I imagine I’d be back in hospital fighting for my life again right now.
Instead I’m almost happy I have caught it … to help make my immunity to it even stronger.

Overwhelming evidence that ivrmectin and hydroxychloroquin (amongst many other drugs) treat it early. Esteemed doctors like Dr Zelenko, Peter Mcullogh, Dr Scott Jensen amonst a host of others treated thousands of patients during the first outbreak in 2020 with overwhelming success.

To quote Phil Gould: no no no no no.

I'll never understand why anti-vaxxers will do anything in the world to avoid a shot, but they'll advocate taking horse medicine. It's madness in a bottle.

If Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) worked it would be submitted to the health authorities and approved, especially if/because it's low cost and readily producible. There isn't a pharma company on Earth that would not request authorisation if their drug worked.

Not approved by FDA (US), not TGA (Australia), not EMA (Europe), not WHO. Nobody.

The day it is proven to work, it would be approved.

Read these:
https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/ema-advises-against-use-Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective)-prevention-treatment-covid-19-outside-randomised-clinical-trials
https://ghostarchive.org/archive/eX3LD
https://www.health.gov.au/health-alerts/covid-19/treatments
https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective)-treat-or-prevent-covid-19

Peter McCullough is a cardiologist, not an infectious disease expert or respiratory physician.
Dr Zelenko is a GP from a Jewish village in New York state.
Dr Jensen is a GP and former Minnesota Republican Senator who is seeking re-election this year.

Even if we take your 3 quacks as being, somehow, front-running experts in their fields (which they are not), that's 3 people... no, let's take all your quacks, say it's 100 of them... 100 proponents of malaria and parasite drugs for COVID vs the established scientific and medical profession of hundreds of thousands, including all global regulatory bodies responsible for review and approval of medications.

Like I said, the day these things are clearly proven safe and effective, you know, like the vaccines are, they can be submitted and approved by the reg bodies, then your doctor can prescribe his brains out.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Ridiculous that we have a government leaking documents to friendly media on the Djokovic visa situation. Little doubt in an attempt to muddy the waters after being denied a two day extension to try and find some ducks to place in a row so they might not lose in court.

Don't like the guy, nor agree with his stance, but find it disgraceful that he is being used as a political football.

One benefit is the world and many here are more aware that refugees sharing his hotel have spent 8 years in detention against an agreement that Australia is a signatory to.

 

[paul wright]

Ridiculous that we have a government leaking documents to friendly media on the Djokovic visa situation. Little doubt in an attempt to muddy the waters after being denied a two day extension to try and find some ducks to place in a row so they might not lose in court.

Don't like the guy, nor agree with his stance, but find it disgraceful that he is being used as a political football.

One benefit is the world and many here are more aware that refugees sharing his hotel have spent 8 years in detention against an agreement that Australia is a signatory to.

It is not much of a suprise when you consider we have a so called "leader" who is up for re-election soon and is under a lot of pressure.He is trying desperately to make a stand on something he believes the voting public will support and after checking the shipping news he found that the Tampa is not going to be sailing in our waters this year.
He is like a mudguard on a vehicle "all shiny on the outside with nothing behind the exterior"

 

[hank37w]

Best of luck CK.

If you are as determined in beating your health issues as you are in making your case against Luke Brooks, I'm pretty sure that you'll be okay.

Hope this is a better year not only for you but for our team as well, and maybe even Luke Brooks can surprise us all and work a little magic.

 

[philgood]

Here is the reaction to what some of the intellectually challenged have come out with in response to the NRL Covid restrictions….

Canberra Raiders and NSW Blues five-eighth Jack Wighton, “Thought I was getting the stupid vax so I didn't have to put up with this shit".

Josh Addo-Carr, "Unbelievable, got double vaxed for (nothing)"

Latrell Mitchell, “WTF?".

They are NRL players and not Rocket Scientists for a reason.

Yeah and the players make an excellent point. Using vaccination as the ONLY method of dealing with this pandemic is floored, idiotic, and the results are there for all to see. Been 2 years and we still going round in circles.

As it stands, there is no treatment for covid until your lungs are damaged and you cant breathe. You are then advised to go to hospital (ahh too late perhaps?).

A better way is giving EARLY medical care (which exist via many different forms of effective medicines - ivrmctn, hydroxychloroquin, even quercetin). This way people would stay out of hospital, we wouldnt have lockdowns, and we get on with life again

Not correct at all.

Nobody is using vaccination as the only method of dealing with pandemic.

And the word is "flawed".

Do u feel better now that you can spell?

What else we using to deal with the virus? Dont say social distancing, masks etc

Social distancing, masks etc.

Self isolation for positive cases and close contacts.
Critical access restrictions for hospitals, aged care, other vulnerable locations.
Previous restrictions on unvaccinated and ongoing restrictions on their travel.
Specialised COVID units within hospitals and rapid in-hospital testing to identify and isolate positive cases at admission.
Experienced COVID care response for positive serious cases including oxygen support, extra ventilators, antivirals, dex etc.
Free PCR tests for all suspected cases.

Imperfect but an advanced strategy compared to January 2020.

You previously advocated early-administration [censored] - you lose all credibility as soon as you say that.

edit: don't know why ivrmctn was censored, so here it is [sic]

Thanks for highlighting my point so succinctly. There is no treatment for covid until you have deteriorated enough, that you cannot breathe, and your lungs are damaged. Then you are asked to go to hospital to be put on a ventilator. Instead of treating Covid EARLY SO PEOPLE DO NOT NEED HOSPITALS! Thanks again.

You can’t treat it early … no matter what dribble you read.
If you could I would be taking it right now.
I’m sitting here suffering from Covid, not long after beating throat cancer, with a vastly depleted immune system.
If I had not had both jabs (was due for a booster next week) I imagine I’d be back in hospital fighting for my life again right now.
Instead I’m almost happy I have caught it … to help make my immunity to it even stronger.

Overwhelming evidence that ivrmectin and hydroxychloroquin (amongst many other drugs) treat it early. Esteemed doctors like Dr Zelenko, Peter Mcullogh, Dr Scott Jensen amonst a host of others treated thousands of patients during the first outbreak in 2020 with overwhelming success.

To quote Phil Gould: no no no no no.

I'll never understand why anti-vaxxers will do anything in the world to avoid a shot, but they'll advocate taking horse medicine. It's madness in a bottle.

If [censored] worked it would be submitted to the health authorities and approved, especially if/because it's low cost and readily producible. There isn't a pharma company on Earth that would not request authorisation if their drug worked.

Not approved by FDA (US), not TGA (Australia), not EMA (Europe), not WHO. Nobody.

The day it is proven to work, it would be approved.

Read these:
https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/ema-advises-against-use-[censored]-prevention-treatment-covid-19-outside-randomised-clinical-trials
https://ghostarchive.org/archive/eX3LD
https://www.health.gov.au/health-alerts/covid-19/treatments
https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-[censored]-treat-or-prevent-covid-19

Peter McCullough is a cardiologist, not an infectious disease expert or respiratory physician.
Dr Zelenko is a GP from a Jewish village in New York state.
Dr Jensen is a GP and former Minnesota Republican Senator who is seeking re-election this year.

Even if we take your 3 quacks as being, somehow, front-running experts in their fields (which they are not), that's 3 people... no, let's take all your quacks, say it's 100 of them... 100 proponents of malaria and parasite drugs for COVID vs the established scientific and medical profession of hundreds of thousands, including all global regulatory bodies responsible for review and approval of medications.

Like I said, the day these things are clearly proven safe and effective, you know, like the vaccines are, they can be submitted and approved by the reg bodies, then your doctor can prescribe his brains out.

Im not anti anything. I am just pro common sense. Yes 3 doctors (amongst thousands) who were successfully prescribing invrmectin and hydroxychloroquin and helping people to heal so they didnt need a hospital. Meanwhile your mates at the FDA, CDC and NIH were advising Doctors to direct those with Covid to go home and rest! Ill type that again...go home, and rest! Once the virus advances, your lungs are damaged, and are hypoxic, then you are to go to the hospital so they can stick you on a ventliator. That was your mate's directives.

Antibiotics also come in animal form. Yet humans still take them last time i checked? Ivrmectin has been around for 60 years and is one of the SAFEST drugs on the planet for human consumption. Unfortunately because it is so cheap and a generic drug, Pfizer, Moderna et al cant make a good profit from it.

P.s. YOu should read up on the esteemed Lancet publication and how it fradulently published the paper which stated that Hydroxychloroquin was ineffective at treating Covid.

 

[jirskyr]

Antibiotics also come in animal form. Yet humans still take them last time i checked? Ivrmectin has been around for 60 years and is one of the SAFEST drugs on the planet for human consumption. Unfortunately because it is so cheap and a generic drug, Pfizer, Moderna et al cant make a good profit from it.

So then the generics can apply for the approval. If ivrmctin was legit and could be used prophylactically or early-onset COVID, you could be shipping 10s of thousands of doses per day in Australia alone. Millions or billions of doses globally, if you could manufacture that quantity. Anyone in the legitimate ivrmectin business (there are several companies) would be all over it. That's why generics exist, to make profit off patent-expired drugs, and they never fail to sniff out a business opportunity for working drugs.

But the sad reality for you is the reason no company has applied for ivrmectin approval for COVID treatment is they have no evidence to back up such an application. Trust me it's not hard to do COVID research and make fast-tracked applications in this climate, so there's no reason to hold back - the FDA alone would hear your case as a priority. I know this because I develop drugs for a living.

Ivrmctin isn't an antibiotic, it's an antiparasitic.

Of course you are anti-vaccine, it's all over everything you write here. Or do me a favour and shock me half to death by telling me you've had both your shots.

 

[Go_You_Good_Things]

There will always be individual cases that give damning proof that one or the other side of the discussion is right, in those individual circumstances…


Hogwash,the anti vaxers have no proof just endless speculation and misinformation.

Paul, we must see things differently.
If you want endless mis-information . . . and I mean ENDLESS . . . start with " the vaccines are totally safe and effective". You can then jump to "herd immunity", and a quick visit to" only one jab" No, actually 2. Hang on 3 or 4. Let's not forget which brand is safe ( today). Then, a quick look at which brand of vax had landed in Aust. for distribution, before it was approved. Then the lies from hospitals about old people dying from old age, but staff wanting to list the death as covid.
The endless changes and mis-truths are the main reason I chose not to get vaxxed.
So, do you recognise that vaccinated people are catching and spreading this latest variant ? . . . or do you think that the thousands of cases every day are all unvaxxed ?

 

[paul wright]

The endless changes and mis-truths are the main reason I chose not to get vaxxed.
So, do you recognise that vaccinated people are catching and spreading this latest variant ? . . . or do you think that the thousands of cases every day are all unvaxxed ?

Off course people who are vaxxed can catch and spread it but it is far less likely than someone who is unvaxxed.Some people are trying their best to reduce the chances of catching and spreading it to vulnerable people.

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

The endless changes and mis-truths are the main reason I chose not to get vaxxed.
So, do you recognise that vaccinated people are catching and spreading this latest variant ? . . . or do you think that the thousands of cases every day are all unvaxxed ?


Off course people who are vaxxed can catch and spread it but it is far less likely than someone who is unvaxxed.Some people are trying their best to reduce the chances of catching and spreading it to vulnerable people.

I'm fully vaxed and so far so good but I realise

The endless changes and mis-truths are the main reason I chose not to get vaxxed.
So, do you recognise that vaccinated people are catching and spreading this latest variant ? . . . or do you think that the thousands of cases every day are all unvaxxed ?


Off course people who are vaxxed can catch and spread it but it is far less likely than someone who is unvaxxed.Some people are trying their best to reduce the chances of catching and spreading it to vulnerable people.

I'm fully vaxed and so far so good but I realise that it is only a matter of time before I come in contact with someone and catch it.Im using QR codes and it is amazing how many alerts come through to say monitor for symptoms.I have friends who are fully vaxed and have been infected feeling ill for 24 hrs then full recovery after ISO

 

[earl]

If anyone is still trying to state that the vaccine doesn't work just think that someone in their 30's who refused to get vaccinated died today and about 1/2 of the patients in ICU are unvaccinated. The statistics are just damming.

It's not a political game where you take sides based on your beliefs. It's a virus and there is an effective preventive medicine available.

If you are so caught up in misinformation or politics it's probably time to reassess your life and seek help because it's really stupid.

 

[TillLindemann]

To be honest I didn’t think of Brooks once while getting blasted with radiation and pumped with chemo lol

That made me laugh. All the best mate.

 

[Go_You_Good_Things]

The endless changes and mis-truths are the main reason I chose not to get vaxxed.
So, do you recognise that vaccinated people are catching and spreading this latest variant ? . . . or do you think that the thousands of cases every day are all unvaxxed ?


Off course people who are vaxxed can catch and spread it but it is far less likely than someone who is unvaxxed.Some people are trying their best to reduce the chances of catching and spreading it to vulnerable people.

So Paul, if it is far less likely . . . . how do we have the astronomical case numbers of the past few days ? Please don't tell me that the 6% not vaxxed are responsible for these many thousands of new cases.
The "far less likely" spiel may well have held more credence for first wave covid, but the numbers suggest it's not so much the case for this new variant.
Hospitalisation is also way down, yet people are deriving statistics to suit their cause.

 

[Go_You_Good_Things]

If anyone is still trying to state that the vaccine doesn't work just think that someone in their 30's who refused to get vaccinated died today and about 1/2 of the patients in ICU are unvaccinated. The statistics are just damming.

It's not a political game where you take sides based on your beliefs. It's a virus and there is an effective preventive medicine available.

If you are so caught up in misinformation or politics it's probably time to reassess your life and seek help because it's really stupid.

Earl, one person is a relatively small sample from which to base facts upon. I would have said " one person tragically dying", but then one of you tolerant folks would have said that it's not a tragedy because he should have been vaxxed.
I don't know anyone apart from you that mentioned politics, but I may be wrong. You linked the aborigines burning the door to old parliament house to this discussion.
As for the "around half" of ICU admissions being unvaxxed . . . how do you know this isn't misinformation, or information that has been distorted to suit an agenda ? You are not stupid enough to believe that the vax supporters will never stretch the truth to suit themselves, are you ?
And lastly, your "effective preventative medicine" is not effective, and is not preventative.
So yes, if you are caught up in all this misinformation, it is time to reassess your life and seek help because it really is stupid.

 

[jirskyr]

The endless changes and mis-truths are the main reason I chose not to get vaxxed.
So, do you recognise that vaccinated people are catching and spreading this latest variant ? . . . or do you think that the thousands of cases every day are all unvaxxed ?


Off course people who are vaxxed can catch and spread it but it is far less likely than someone who is unvaxxed.Some people are trying their best to reduce the chances of catching and spreading it to vulnerable people.

So Paul, if it is far less likely . . . . how do we have the astronomical case numbers of the past few days ? Please don't tell me that the 6% not vaxxed are responsible for these many thousands of new cases.
The "far less likely" spiel may well have held more credence for first wave covid, but the numbers suggest it's not so much the case for this new variant.
Hospitalisation is also way down, yet people are deriving statistics to suit their cause.

You are only considering half the picture. Lots of people are getting COVID because it's very infectious - Omicron is potentially the most infectious disease ever recorded, approximately on par with measles.

Approx 6 million people in NSW have been vaccinated. 35K cases per day is still only 0.58% of the vaccinated population.

None of the COVID vaccines are absolute however, they don't stop 100% of cases, they reduce the frequency and severity of cases.

The part you are ignoring - consider how many people would be infected and hospitalised per day if nobody was vaccinated - far worse.