NRL statement on Isaac Moses

[Deleted member 3518]

Being mates, you would bet Greenburg covered Moses’ actions up as best he could, and if he stepped away from the investigation I am sure it was only because he knew Moses was going down and he was trying to distance himself from Moses.

Pure slander and defamation, not a shred of evidence for that.

Yeah to be fair , it’s a conflict of interest , and he had no choice but to remove himself . It’s a generic corporate policy .

 

[Deleted member 3518]

hard to weed blokes like him out

Not necessarily. Depending on the Criteria it is often the case that a Firm is required to submit a list of qualified employees to support their accreditation. e.g A Training Organisation seeking Registration must submit names and quals of their training staff to meet the necessary criteria for accreditation. In the NRL I would imagine that Red Flags like Moses would be easy to spot and what Agency would want to risk being busted by having that scumbag floating around in the background?

Yea I hear what you’re saying , but you’re missing the part where he owns the agency. All he has to do is ensure there’s enough accredited people beneath him. This is how guys like this have been operating for years.
Because it is accreditation based , there would be certain criteria the agency would have to meet to a minimum standard , of which if they do , what grounds does the NRL have to not approve their accreditation , if Isaac isn’t included on the application.

 

[LeichhardtTiger]

what grounds does the NRL have to not approve their accreditation

Well, "Good Character" is the usual starting place. He/his business would be deregistered if the appeal process is unsuccessful and so that would result in him being unable to practice.

 

[diedpretty]

So what if they deregister him - his company employs others who can do his bidding. The word is there is already a loophole in the contracts that allow them to be just transferred to his company. We will see how tough the NRL is over this.

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

Any investigation into Wehbe ?

He's not an agent, not much they can do about him.

Apparently he is and was in a 50/50 arrangement with Isaac Moses he is now managing Teddy

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

Being mates, you would bet Greenburg covered Moses’ actions up as best he could, and if he stepped away from the investigation I am sure it was only because he knew Moses was going down and he was trying to distance himself from Moses.

Pure slander and defamation, not a shred of evidence for that.

If Greenburg was squeaky clean he would still be with the NRL.

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

Is. Moses Matterson's agent?

He was

 

[Russell]

Leave it to V'Landys - think he has his measure.

 

[Alex Seyfarth's #1 Fan]

Leave it to V'Landys - think he has his measure.

V'Landys certainly has a lot of negatives about him. First, his connections to the gambling industry. Second, his questionable actions surrounding the broadcasting deal.

But the positives he brings are great. He is what rugby league needs. Someone without the traditional rugby league connections who can push the game forward. The administrators have been far too conservative on a lot of issues, such as player managers, trade windows and expansion. Greenburg always said that "he'd get to it". PVL is making it sound like Brisbane 2 could be a reality in 2 or 3 years.

Dave Smith, Peter Beattie and the guy before Beattie didn't have the right connections. Greenturd was connected to all the worst people in rugby league.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Leave it to V'Landys - think he has his measure.

V'Landys certainly has a lot of negatives about him. First, his connections to the gambling industry. Second, his questionable actions surrounding the broadcasting deal.

But the positives he brings are great. He is what rugby league needs. Someone without the traditional rugby league connections who can push the game forward. The administrators have been far too conservative on a lot of issues, such as player managers, trade windows and expansion. Greenburg always said that "he'd get to it". PVL is making it sound like Brisbane 2 could be a reality in 2 or 3 years.

Dave Smith, Peter Beattie and the guy before Beattie didn't have the right connections. Greenturd was connected to all the worst people in rugby league.

RE: broadcasting deal, he wasn't negotiating from a position of strength. The game has been crippled financially from years of mismanagement. I think he honestly did the best he could with what was at his disposal.

Yes, his gambling connections are not desirable, but when half the clubs have betting agencies splattered all over their jerseys can't really make out he's on his own there as the gambling industry is balls deep in the NRL. In saying that, the racing industry exists for gambling so it's a symbiotic relationship, one that is not as prevalent in the NRL.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Any investigation into Wehbe ?

He's not an agent, not much they can do about him.

Apparently he is and was in a 50/50 arrangement with Isaac Moses he is now managing Teddy

He is not on the accredited agents list on the NRL site (current of April 2020.)

He is probably advising players, but not specifically managing them.

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

Leave it to V'Landys - think he has his measure.

V'Landys certainly has a lot of negatives about him. First, his connections to the gambling industry. Second, his questionable actions surrounding the broadcasting deal.

But the positives he brings are great. He is what rugby league needs. Someone without the traditional rugby league connections who can push the game forward. The administrators have been far too conservative on a lot of issues, such as player managers, trade windows and expansion. Greenburg always said that "he'd get to it". PVL is making it sound like Brisbane 2 could be a reality in 2 or 3 years.

Dave Smith, Peter Beattie and the guy before Beattie didn't have the right connections. Greenturd was connected to all the worst people in rugby league.

Your comments in regard to the negatives of PVL is the greatest load of BS I have read on this Forum

 

[pawsandclaws1]

I don't understand why players do not use legal firms for their reps.

 

[jirskyr]

Being mates, you would bet Greenburg covered Moses’ actions up as best he could, and if he stepped away from the investigation I am sure it was only because he knew Moses was going down and he was trying to distance himself from Moses.

Pure slander and defamation, not a shred of evidence for that.

If Greenburg was squeaky clean he would still be with the NRL.

That does not compute.

 

[Nelson]

I don't understand why players do not use legal firms for their reps.

Probably because the 6.5% the managers charge is enough of a gouge.

 

[dazza65]

I appreciate this is a story from the Mole however it’s probably true and goes to show how much of a germ Moses is and how he was such a blight on the game

https://apple.news/AxK5nmJi_Tcm6Lap_TpxXTA

 

[dazza65]

Sorry here’s the story

How Isaac Moses' downfall triggered Stephen Kearney's sudden axing as Warriors coach

Stephen Kearney was a dead coach walking from the moment his manager, Isaac Moses, was stripped of his accreditation late last week.
The Warriors made the painful decision to axe Kearney yesterday but in truth, it was a long time coming.
The club attempted to part ways with Kearney midway through last season - another year of mediocrity for the club.
But when Moses, who manages five of the club's leading players as well as Kearney, got wind of the plans, he swung into action.
He allegedly told the Warriors that if they sacked Kearney, he would 'pull' his players from the club, including team leaders Adam Blair and Blake Green.
The Warriors panicked - and instead of sacking Kearney, extended his deal.
They told him last October that they would not accept another season of poor results, however, and that his job was on the line.
But there wasn't even a hint that Kearney would be axed in recent weeks given the problems the Warriors face since COVID-19 began.
Indeed, his results since COVID, two wins and two losses, were fairly acceptable considering the disadvantages the club has had to contend with.
But then Moses was booted out of the game, and the club seized its chance to make a fresh start.
Ironically, Kearney's replacement, Todd Payten, is also a Moses client - but he is his own man and has served a long apprenticeship waiting for this chance.
While the Warriors will now hunt a big name, as is their way - Geoff Toovey and Nathan Brown have been mentioned - the job is Payten's to lose.
If he can get the team firing - no easy task given their obstacles - he will be in the box seat for a long-term deal.

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

Sorry here’s the story

How Isaac Moses' downfall triggered Stephen Kearney's sudden axing as Warriors coach

Stephen Kearney was a dead coach walking from the moment his manager, Isaac Moses, was stripped of his accreditation late last week.
The Warriors made the painful decision to axe Kearney yesterday but in truth, it was a long time coming.
The club attempted to part ways with Kearney midway through last season - another year of mediocrity for the club.
But when Moses, who manages five of the club's leading players as well as Kearney, got wind of the plans, he swung into action.
He allegedly told the Warriors that if they sacked Kearney, he would 'pull' his players from the club, including team leaders Adam Blair and Blake Green.
The Warriors panicked - and instead of sacking Kearney, extended his deal.
They told him last October that they would not accept another season of poor results, however, and that his job was on the line.
But there wasn't even a hint that Kearney would be axed in recent weeks given the problems the Warriors face since COVID-19 began.
Indeed, his results since COVID, two wins and two losses, were fairly acceptable considering the disadvantages the club has had to contend with.
But then Moses was booted out of the game, and the club seized its chance to make a fresh start.
Ironically, Kearney's replacement, Todd Payten, is also a Moses client - but he is his own man and has served a long apprenticeship waiting for this chance.
While the Warriors will now hunt a big name, as is their way - Geoff Toovey and Nathan Brown have been mentioned - the job is Payten's to lose.
If he can get the team firing - no easy task given their obstacles - he will be in the box seat for a long-term deal.

Wouldn't surprise be interesting what other dirt my come to light with this GRUB

 

[cochise]

Being mates, you would bet Greenburg covered Moses’ actions up as best he could, and if he stepped away from the investigation I am sure it was only because he knew Moses was going down and he was trying to distance himself from Moses.

Pure slander and defamation, not a shred of evidence for that.

Really surprised that post has been allowed to remain.

 

[cochise]

Being mates, you would bet Greenburg covered Moses’ actions up as best he could, and if he stepped away from the investigation I am sure it was only because he knew Moses was going down and he was trying to distance himself from Moses.

Pure slander and defamation, not a shred of evidence for that.

If Greenburg was squeaky clean he would still be with the NRL.

That is not necessarily the case. He wasn't sacked for misconduct.