One Club Has To Go

Would you think if our request for govt assistance for the COE is successful that would see us safe…even if its to be used as a multi purpose community facility?

I disagree with those that say "weve merged weve done our bit"...that wont be taken into consideration imo...NRL doesnt give a stuff about the games history....an Idea on radio this arvo was relocate Saints/Illawarra to the south coast ...with peanuts like this bloke involved in their juniors its not a bad idea
https://au.news.yahoo.com/nsw/a/36151495/calls-for-bans-after-heated-sideline-fight-at-junior-rugby-league-match-between-kogarah-cougars-and-kingsgrove-colts/#page1
 
Rothfield is a knobswab. True WT have struggled in the past couple of years. If next year and the year after they make the semis then top 4 watch the crowds return. Not only because they are winning, they will also get better timeslots on a weekend. Say goodbye to the 5:30pm Sat kick-of for instance,

A winning side will fill Campbelltown any sunday of the year. It's just that it's been so long since we had a decent side people forget this.

It wouldn't hurt to move there full-time either. A winning side would not take long to win back the south-west.
 
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Try 3 Clubs… The sooner some of the Sydney Teams realise there history/foundation belongs in the NSW Cup where it all started in 1908, the sooner the game can grow as a National Competition.

I'd still like to see Souths move to the Central Coast and form an alliance with the Umina Bunnies.

But the biggest stumbling block will be the make up of the numbers for the ARLC.

Wont Happen and the NRL will continue to be a pimple on the bum of world sports.
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Soooooo..China is still a while away…!?!??
 
Looks like their own fan poll is statistically significant enough to make this into a back page story in tomorrow's astonisher.
 
Is Buzz Rothfield getting a commission to his retirement fund for this rubbish after his dribble yesterday?

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-warns-clubs-there-will-be-no-more-saving-them-from-extinction/news-story/0b778f6a7e1ee0d3185d5000fbe2926d

Fans don't want any team to go! Fans just want a good game with decent refereeing decisions.

It's a simple game: catch the ball, pass the ball, run the ball - tackle the guy with the ball, then get off him or be penalised. Do that 5 times and kick on the last.

Since 2000 there are 4 teams that have not won a premiership: Parramatta, NZ Warriors, Gold Coast & Canberra. So why aren't there calls for Parra to be Punted from Sydney? And why is a bloody NZ team in an Aussie "National Rugby League" Competition at all?

As for fans - yeah Roosters want more games in ADELAIDE! cos they get more "Fans" at the Adelaide Oval than 2 home games at the SFS! What's that?…Bondi Beach Far Away in Time!

They say there must be a reason the Tigers get so many Free To Air games, especially Sunday arvos at Leichhardt - something to do with the crowd support - good for TV, Good for the NRL!

Rothfield's dog whistle seems to be a move to distract from his beloved Shark’s indifferent form.

I can only think Rothfield's hate of the Tigers is due to his not getting mustard on his hotdog from Wayne Pearce 40 years ago!
 
Are the NRL really concerned about crowd numbers? The games biggest revenue stream comes from TV/Media platforms. While this is the case, the NRL will be focused on the uptake by consumers watching at home & pubs etc over crowd numbers.

I'd assume the loser from low crowd numbers would be the clubs. The clubs probably rely on this engaugment more so than the NRL. After reading a lot of comments about this subject, it appears the common theme that relates to higher crowds is success on the field. Unfortunately, the majority of clubs lose more games than they win every year. At the least, only 50% of clubs can make the finals each year, so poor crowd numbers is simply apart of doing business in the NRL for some clubs year on year.

What I have noticed over the last 2-3 years, is the clubs are focused on a different measure of success. They seem to be more focused on Membership Numbers as a gauge of doing something right. They have switched their emotional engagement from actually attending games to simply being a Member. This is evident in the increased results in memberships today exceeding the actual attendance averages for a lot of clubs.

So my question is are clubs doing enough to build crowd numbers? Or have they conceded they can't control the emotion of people attending games and are more focused on the emotional engagement of 'being a member' to gauge success?

Personally, I see this as a flawed business model and clubs CEO's drafting their own KPI's while failing us fans!
 
Rothfield is an ass clown

Gould says concentrate on south west Sydney because there is so much untapped talent. Thats our territory. Rothfield says we should go.

Makes a lot of sense?….....NOT
 
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Would you think if our request for govt assistance for the COE is successful that would see us safe…even if its to be used as a multi purpose community facility?

I disagree with those that say "weve merged weve done our bit"...that wont be taken into consideration imo...NRL doesnt give a stuff about the games history....an Idea on radio this arvo was relocate Saints/Illawarra to the south coast ...with peanuts like this bloke involved in their juniors its not a bad idea
https://au.news.yahoo.com/nsw/a/36151495/calls-for-bans-after-heated-sideline-fight-at-junior-rugby-league-match-between-kogarah-cougars-and-kingsgrove-colts/#page1
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Yeah I know it won't be Ink, sometimes good business sense may call for emotion to be put aside.

I just think it is rich to take a Sydney club who have already merged and who is well supported and move them elsewhere when you have teams like Cronulla, Manly and Easts who offer little in the way of juniors and fan base. If anything, their recent successes would make them more attractive for a relocation instead of perennial losers like us.
 
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The Tigers have already merged. If other clubs need to merge so be it.

Well they're not merged any more, by the look of it any more.
At least one club or probably two have to go.
Yep the prices are too high. But there is not enough players to fill two( or one ) additions to the comp without cutting the same numbers from asydney.
A lot of supporters wont cough up money to watch some of the garbage served up by some of the clubs. The clubs should be told to improve in every respect, or they're out. No club should have an automatic place . Whether they've merged in the past, or whether they haven't.

I love the game, but some clubs and the NRL are slowly killing it.

Two clubs still gave up something to make the Wests Tigers happen, irrespective of what happened with Balmain.

It is not fair to a club that is a merged entity to give up more when other clubs who offer little to the game continue to get the leg up. Easts have bugger all juniors, Manly's fans don't travel, St. George no longer has a strangehold on the comp so Cronulla's existence is redundant.

Whoever gets the chop will think it's not fair. But fairness will not come into it when it happens. Its inevitable that one or two will go. And when it does, it won't be one of the scccesful clubs.
The clubs that have the backing and have a record of success will stay. And it would be stupid to be any other way
Anyone with the game at heart can only agree that it's needed.
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Yeah valid points.

If we get the pineapple again though, I'm lost to the game as I am sure many of our fans will be. Hard to keep asking the fans to put their hand in their front pocket while the game's administration keeps bending them over.
 
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Admission prices have little to do with it.
Large crowds turn up to watch great footy.
Our mob are dull and predictable. Start playing good footy and the crowds will return. Friday nights crowd was largely due to how we are playing.
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If it's a recurring cost, and not just a one off, the cost is probably the biggest single reason. And when a team is playing the sort of football like we are, most( except the diehards) couldn't be bothered to waste their money,
When it's been a long time since a team has been playing well, a lot get sick of wasting money by going to a game where it's not going to be a contest.
 
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Are the NRL really concerned about crowd numbers? The games biggest revenue stream comes from TV/Media platforms. While this is the case, the NRL will be focused on the uptake by consumers watching at home & pubs etc over crowd numbers.

I'd assume the loser from low crowd numbers would be the clubs. The clubs probably rely on this engaugment more so than the NRL. After reading a lot of comments about this subject, it appears the common theme that relates to higher crowds is success on the field. Unfortunately, the majority of clubs lose more games than they win every year. At the least, only 50% of clubs can make the finals each year, so poor crowd numbers is simply apart of doing business in the NRL for some clubs year on year.

What I have noticed over the last 2-3 years, is the clubs are focused on a different measure of success. They seem to be more focused on Membership Numbers as a gauge of doing something right. They have switched their emotional engagement from actually attending games to simply being a Member. This is evident in the increased results in memberships today exceeding the actual attendance averages for a lot of clubs.

So my question is are clubs doing enough to build crowd numbers? Or have they conceded they can't control the emotion of people attending games and are more focused on the emotional engagement of 'being a member' to gauge success?

Personally, I see this as a flawed business model and clubs CEO's drafting their own KPI's while failing us fans!
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That is way too much Coffee for 1/4 to 3 in the morning…..Pornhub down...?
 
I know it will never happen but. Why don't they work out how many NRL player's each Sydney club has developed that are part of an NRL squad and the team that supplies the least is seen as the least important.
That's much fairer than allowing a team that survives on nothing but brown paper bags to stay in the comp.
If all the player's from Sydney were sent back to their junior clubs the rorters wouldn't be able to put a team together to compete in beach volleyball.
Apart from Nicks money and power the club really don't have much.
They certainly wouldn't be missed.
Geographically they are live in Souths pocket with no juniors. There is little hope of ever having juniors. No where to expand. There would be no loss to AFL or union because there is nothing to lose. The rabbit's would absorb them up.
The Knights would be much higher up the ladder if the Rorters didn't steel all their best talent. The rorters call it talent spotting when they get these players but the knights know they are there but can't compete financially.
We just lost our best player to them.
There would be massive losses to other codes if any other club was booted out. Massive losses of fans. Loss of development in rugby league strongholds. The list goes on.
But i know I'm dreaming.
The NRL has never had a set of balls and isn't likely to grow any anytime soon
 
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Are the NRL really concerned about crowd numbers? The games biggest revenue stream comes from TV/Media platforms. While this is the case, the NRL will be focused on the uptake by consumers watching at home & pubs etc over crowd numbers.

I'd assume the loser from low crowd numbers would be the clubs. The clubs probably rely on this engaugment more so than the NRL. After reading a lot of comments about this subject, it appears the common theme that relates to higher crowds is success on the field. Unfortunately, the majority of clubs lose more games than they win every year. At the least, only 50% of clubs can make the finals each year, so poor crowd numbers is simply apart of doing business in the NRL for some clubs year on year.

What I have noticed over the last 2-3 years, is the clubs are focused on a different measure of success. They seem to be more focused on Membership Numbers as a gauge of doing something right. They have switched their emotional engagement from actually attending games to simply being a Member. This is evident in the increased results in memberships today exceeding the actual attendance averages for a lot of clubs.

So my question is are clubs doing enough to build crowd numbers? Or have they conceded they can't control the emotion of people attending games and are more focused on the emotional engagement of 'being a member' to gauge success?

Personally, I see this as a flawed business model and clubs CEO's drafting their own KPI's while failing us fans!

That is way too much Coffee for 1/4 to 3 in the morning…..Pornhub down...?
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yep… It said too many users online. Hope you enjoyed your video?!
 
Don't eliminate clubs just join them at the hip. WT are only about a 1+ 1/4 outfit - join us with Doggies we control whole corridor down to south west. Our forum board would become a lot more interesting as well.
 
Anyone who actually takes this clown serious

I'm sure if Cronulla was running last the article and poll wouldn't exist
 
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Are the NRL really concerned about crowd numbers? The games biggest revenue stream comes from TV/Media platforms. While this is the case, the NRL will be focused on the uptake by consumers watching at home & pubs etc over crowd numbers.

I'd assume the loser from low crowd numbers would be the clubs. The clubs probably rely on this engaugment more so than the NRL. After reading a lot of comments about this subject, it appears the common theme that relates to higher crowds is success on the field. Unfortunately, the majority of clubs lose more games than they win every year. At the least, only 50% of clubs can make the finals each year, so poor crowd numbers is simply apart of doing business in the NRL for some clubs year on year.
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That's sort of what I was saying earlier. Huge crowds would be great, but the clubs pull very large grants from the NRL now due to the TV deal, and rugby league TV audiences beat every other code, especially when Origin is on.

In other words clubs do get their slice of the pie from NRL handouts, the main difference is that Broncos can also lean upon huge membership and 30K tickets sold every 2 weeks to go above the grant.
 
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