One ref

[cochise]

Good on the refs. Maybe V’landys will learn next time to do things properly. Let’s see how this one ref goes, if it does actually work and gets rid of the wrestle it definitely favours us especially with Grant at hooker. If it doesn’t it makes our job even harder winning games. Fingers crossed it’s the former

lol, how will he learn? He got exactly what he wanted.

They didn’t just let him walk all over them though they showed they’ll put up a fight.

And what did they achieve?

Again, they showed V’landys they won’t be used as a doormat and that he has to do stuff properly

No they didn't, nothing changed.

You’re entitled to your opinion mate but they showed him they’re willing to go all the way to court if things aren’t done properly which will make him hopefully take things more serious in the future. Just because they didn’t get exactly what they wanted doesn’t mean they didn’t send a message.

They didn't get anything though, they folded and withdrew their dispute.

 

[gallagher]

Good on the refs. Maybe V’landys will learn next time to do things properly. Let’s see how this one ref goes, if it does actually work and gets rid of the wrestle it definitely favours us especially with Grant at hooker. If it doesn’t it makes our job even harder winning games. Fingers crossed it’s the former

lol, how will he learn? He got exactly what he wanted.

They didn’t just let him walk all over them though they showed they’ll put up a fight.

And what did they achieve?

Again, they showed V’landys they won’t be used as a doormat and that he has to do stuff properly

No they didn't, nothing changed.

You’re entitled to your opinion mate but they showed him they’re willing to go all the way to court if things aren’t done properly which will make him hopefully take things more serious in the future. Just because they didn’t get exactly what they wanted doesn’t mean they didn’t send a message.

I think they showed that they weren't willing to go to court.

 

[mike]

Good on the refs. Maybe V’landys will learn next time to do things properly. Let’s see how this one ref goes, if it does actually work and gets rid of the wrestle it definitely favours us especially with Grant at hooker. If it doesn’t it makes our job even harder winning games. Fingers crossed it’s the former

lol, how will he learn? He got exactly what he wanted.

They didn’t just let him walk all over them though they showed they’ll put up a fight.

And what did they achieve?

Zip, nothing, nada

 

[tiger_one]

Good on the refs. Maybe V’landys will learn next time to do things properly. Let’s see how this one ref goes, if it does actually work and gets rid of the wrestle it definitely favours us especially with Grant at hooker. If it doesn’t it makes our job even harder winning games. Fingers crossed it’s the former

lol, how will he learn? He got exactly what he wanted.

They didn’t just let him walk all over them though they showed they’ll put up a fight.

And what did they achieve?

Zip, nothing, nada

Except we know their union boss now.
Although his name escapes me .......

 

[Geo]

Good on the refs. Maybe V’landys will learn next time to do things properly. Let’s see how this one ref goes, if it does actually work and gets rid of the wrestle it definitely favours us especially with Grant at hooker. If it doesn’t it makes our job even harder winning games. Fingers crossed it’s the former

lol, how will he learn? He got exactly what he wanted.

They didn’t just let him walk all over them though they showed they’ll put up a fight.

And what did they achieve?

Zip, nothing, nada


Except we know their union boss now.
Although his name escapes me .......

Don Vito Corleone

 

[mike]

Good on the refs. Maybe V’landys will learn next time to do things properly. Let’s see how this one ref goes, if it does actually work and gets rid of the wrestle it definitely favours us especially with Grant at hooker. If it doesn’t it makes our job even harder winning games. Fingers crossed it’s the former

lol, how will he learn? He got exactly what he wanted.

They didn’t just let him walk all over them though they showed they’ll put up a fight.

And what did they achieve?

Again, they showed V’landys they won’t be used as a doormat and that he has to do stuff properly

No they didn't, nothing changed.

You’re entitled to your opinion mate but they showed him they’re willing to go all the way to court if things aren’t done properly which will make him hopefully take things more serious in the future. Just because they didn’t get exactly what they wanted doesn’t mean they didn’t send a message.

It’s cute that you actually think that matters.

 

[JC99]

Good on the refs. Maybe V’landys will learn next time to do things properly. Let’s see how this one ref goes, if it does actually work and gets rid of the wrestle it definitely favours us especially with Grant at hooker. If it doesn’t it makes our job even harder winning games. Fingers crossed it’s the former

lol, how will he learn? He got exactly what he wanted.

They didn’t just let him walk all over them though they showed they’ll put up a fight.

And what did they achieve?

Again, they showed V’landys they won’t be used as a doormat and that he has to do stuff properly

No they didn't, nothing changed.

You’re entitled to your opinion mate but they showed him they’re willing to go all the way to court if things aren’t done properly which will make him hopefully take things more serious in the future. Just because they didn’t get exactly what they wanted doesn’t mean they didn’t send a message.

It’s cute that you actually think that matters.

I mean they also managed to make sure it was only a trial for the one ref system and at the end of the year it will be properly reviewed by a committee who will decide what happens. That’s a lot better than how it was before (V’landys just does what he wants without asking other people)

 

[cochise]

Good on the refs. Maybe V’landys will learn next time to do things properly. Let’s see how this one ref goes, if it does actually work and gets rid of the wrestle it definitely favours us especially with Grant at hooker. If it doesn’t it makes our job even harder winning games. Fingers crossed it’s the former

lol, how will he learn? He got exactly what he wanted.

They didn’t just let him walk all over them though they showed they’ll put up a fight.

And what did they achieve?

Again, they showed V’landys they won’t be used as a doormat and that he has to do stuff properly

No they didn't, nothing changed.

You’re entitled to your opinion mate but they showed him they’re willing to go all the way to court if things aren’t done properly which will make him hopefully take things more serious in the future. Just because they didn’t get exactly what they wanted doesn’t mean they didn’t send a message.

I think they showed that they weren't willing to go to court.

That's a stupid comment again. From my understanding the "collective" efforts of the Refs Association has secured some payment from the NRL for their staff who won't be employed in the re-structured competition. That is, those who V'Landys was prepared to send to the scrap heap.

The capitulation has been by V'Landys. He did not want the media scurtinising his autocratic and chaotic leadership armed with the findings of a Commissioner.

The refs have had a win here, for their colleagues. That;s what organised labour achieves. And, good on them for standing up to V'Landys.

He stated weeks ago that no fulltime refs would lose their job?

 

[cochise]

Good on the refs. Maybe V’landys will learn next time to do things properly. Let’s see how this one ref goes, if it does actually work and gets rid of the wrestle it definitely favours us especially with Grant at hooker. If it doesn’t it makes our job even harder winning games. Fingers crossed it’s the former

lol, how will he learn? He got exactly what he wanted.

They didn’t just let him walk all over them though they showed they’ll put up a fight.

And what did they achieve?

Again, they showed V’landys they won’t be used as a doormat and that he has to do stuff properly

No they didn't, nothing changed.

You’re entitled to your opinion mate but they showed him they’re willing to go all the way to court if things aren’t done properly which will make him hopefully take things more serious in the future. Just because they didn’t get exactly what they wanted doesn’t mean they didn’t send a message.

It’s cute that you actually think that matters.

I mean they also managed to make sure it was only a trial for the one ref system and at the end of the year it will be properly reviewed by a committee who will decide what happens. That’s a lot better than how it was before (V’landys just does what he wants without asking other people)

Reviewed by a committee that will only make a recommendation. Mate the refs folded and nothing changed. I thought they were saying this was about Rugby League and the safety of the players? They achieved nothing in that regard and the other win they achieved is miniscule.

 

[JC99]

Good on the refs. Maybe V’landys will learn next time to do things properly. Let’s see how this one ref goes, if it does actually work and gets rid of the wrestle it definitely favours us especially with Grant at hooker. If it doesn’t it makes our job even harder winning games. Fingers crossed it’s the former

lol, how will he learn? He got exactly what he wanted.

They didn’t just let him walk all over them though they showed they’ll put up a fight.

And what did they achieve?

Again, they showed V’landys they won’t be used as a doormat and that he has to do stuff properly

No they didn't, nothing changed.

You’re entitled to your opinion mate but they showed him they’re willing to go all the way to court if things aren’t done properly which will make him hopefully take things more serious in the future. Just because they didn’t get exactly what they wanted doesn’t mean they didn’t send a message.

It’s cute that you actually think that matters.

I mean they also managed to make sure it was only a trial for the one ref system and at the end of the year it will be properly reviewed by a committee who will decide what happens. That’s a lot better than how it was before (V’landys just does what he wants without asking other people)

Reviewed by a committee that will only make a recommendation. Mate the refs folded and nothing changed. I thought they were saying this was about Rugby League and the safety of the players? They achieved nothing in that regard and the other win they achieved is miniscule.

Mate like i told you before you can have your opinion and I’ll have mine. If you think it’ll make literally no difference that’s fine. I don’t want to keep repeating the same things to you over and over ?

 

[cochise]

Good on the refs. Maybe V’landys will learn next time to do things properly. Let’s see how this one ref goes, if it does actually work and gets rid of the wrestle it definitely favours us especially with Grant at hooker. If it doesn’t it makes our job even harder winning games. Fingers crossed it’s the former

lol, how will he learn? He got exactly what he wanted.

They didn’t just let him walk all over them though they showed they’ll put up a fight.

And what did they achieve?

Again, they showed V’landys they won’t be used as a doormat and that he has to do stuff properly

No they didn't, nothing changed.

You’re entitled to your opinion mate but they showed him they’re willing to go all the way to court if things aren’t done properly which will make him hopefully take things more serious in the future. Just because they didn’t get exactly what they wanted doesn’t mean they didn’t send a message.

It’s cute that you actually think that matters.

I mean they also managed to make sure it was only a trial for the one ref system and at the end of the year it will be properly reviewed by a committee who will decide what happens. That’s a lot better than how it was before (V’landys just does what he wants without asking other people)

Reviewed by a committee that will only make a recommendation. Mate the refs folded and nothing changed. I thought they were saying this was about Rugby League and the safety of the players? They achieved nothing in that regard and the other win they achieved is miniscule.

Mate like i told you before you can have your opinion and I’ll have mine. If you think it’ll make literally no difference that’s fine. I don’t want to keep repeating the same things to you over and over ?

That's a good idea because it made no difference 😛

 

[JC99]

Good on the refs. Maybe V’landys will learn next time to do things properly. Let’s see how this one ref goes, if it does actually work and gets rid of the wrestle it definitely favours us especially with Grant at hooker. If it doesn’t it makes our job even harder winning games. Fingers crossed it’s the former

lol, how will he learn? He got exactly what he wanted.

They didn’t just let him walk all over them though they showed they’ll put up a fight.

And what did they achieve?

Again, they showed V’landys they won’t be used as a doormat and that he has to do stuff properly

No they didn't, nothing changed.

You’re entitled to your opinion mate but they showed him they’re willing to go all the way to court if things aren’t done properly which will make him hopefully take things more serious in the future. Just because they didn’t get exactly what they wanted doesn’t mean they didn’t send a message.

It’s cute that you actually think that matters.

I mean they also managed to make sure it was only a trial for the one ref system and at the end of the year it will be properly reviewed by a committee who will decide what happens. That’s a lot better than how it was before (V’landys just does what he wants without asking other people)

Reviewed by a committee that will only make a recommendation. Mate the refs folded and nothing changed. I thought they were saying this was about Rugby League and the safety of the players? They achieved nothing in that regard and the other win they achieved is miniscule.

Mate like i told you before you can have your opinion and I’ll have mine. If you think it’ll make literally no difference that’s fine. I don’t want to keep repeating the same things to you over and over ?

That's a good idea because it made no difference 😛

Clearly not because you kept giving the same answers ? seemed like a pointless conversation.

 

[cochise]

Good on the refs. Maybe V’landys will learn next time to do things properly. Let’s see how this one ref goes, if it does actually work and gets rid of the wrestle it definitely favours us especially with Grant at hooker. If it doesn’t it makes our job even harder winning games. Fingers crossed it’s the former

lol, how will he learn? He got exactly what he wanted.

They didn’t just let him walk all over them though they showed they’ll put up a fight.

And what did they achieve?

Again, they showed V’landys they won’t be used as a doormat and that he has to do stuff properly

No they didn't, nothing changed.

You’re entitled to your opinion mate but they showed him they’re willing to go all the way to court if things aren’t done properly which will make him hopefully take things more serious in the future. Just because they didn’t get exactly what they wanted doesn’t mean they didn’t send a message.

It’s cute that you actually think that matters.

I mean they also managed to make sure it was only a trial for the one ref system and at the end of the year it will be properly reviewed by a committee who will decide what happens. That’s a lot better than how it was before (V’landys just does what he wants without asking other people)

Reviewed by a committee that will only make a recommendation. Mate the refs folded and nothing changed. I thought they were saying this was about Rugby League and the safety of the players? They achieved nothing in that regard and the other win they achieved is miniscule.

Mate like i told you before you can have your opinion and I’ll have mine. If you think it’ll make literally no difference that’s fine. I don’t want to keep repeating the same things to you over and over ?

That's a good idea because it made no difference 😛

Clearly not because you kept giving the same answers ? seemed like a pointless conversation.

No I didn't you ignored the point where I said the refs said this wasn't about money or their jobs it was about Rugby League and the players safety, doesn't seem like in the end any of that was too important to them because they folded on all those points as well.

 

[JC99]

Good on the refs. Maybe V’landys will learn next time to do things properly. Let’s see how this one ref goes, if it does actually work and gets rid of the wrestle it definitely favours us especially with Grant at hooker. If it doesn’t it makes our job even harder winning games. Fingers crossed it’s the former

lol, how will he learn? He got exactly what he wanted.

They didn’t just let him walk all over them though they showed they’ll put up a fight.

And what did they achieve?

Again, they showed V’landys they won’t be used as a doormat and that he has to do stuff properly

No they didn't, nothing changed.

You’re entitled to your opinion mate but they showed him they’re willing to go all the way to court if things aren’t done properly which will make him hopefully take things more serious in the future. Just because they didn’t get exactly what they wanted doesn’t mean they didn’t send a message.

It’s cute that you actually think that matters.

I mean they also managed to make sure it was only a trial for the one ref system and at the end of the year it will be properly reviewed by a committee who will decide what happens. That’s a lot better than how it was before (V’landys just does what he wants without asking other people)

Reviewed by a committee that will only make a recommendation. Mate the refs folded and nothing changed. I thought they were saying this was about Rugby League and the safety of the players? They achieved nothing in that regard and the other win they achieved is miniscule.

Mate like i told you before you can have your opinion and I’ll have mine. If you think it’ll make literally no difference that’s fine. I don’t want to keep repeating the same things to you over and over ?

That's a good idea because it made no difference 😛

Clearly not because you kept giving the same answers ? seemed like a pointless conversation.

No I didn't you ignored the point where I said the refs said this wasn't about money or their jobs it was about Rugby League and the players safety, doesn't seem like in the end any of that was too important to them because they folded on all those points as well.

Well you ignored the point where I said they’re reviewing how the system works... you don’t think those things will be part of said review? It may only be a recommendation but with how public this has become V’landys will most likely follow what they say. If his system doesn’t work and he doubles down on it it’ll show that he doesn’t care about how it works, and that he only cares about putting in what he wants

 

[JC99]

All we can do is wait and see now mate. No doubt people will be critiquing the refs even in the first game back and if the system doesn’t work they will cop the blame anyway, that’s life for them. I would never be a ref 😂

 

[cochise]

Good on the refs. Maybe V’landys will learn next time to do things properly. Let’s see how this one ref goes, if it does actually work and gets rid of the wrestle it definitely favours us especially with Grant at hooker. If it doesn’t it makes our job even harder winning games. Fingers crossed it’s the former

lol, how will he learn? He got exactly what he wanted.

They didn’t just let him walk all over them though they showed they’ll put up a fight.

And what did they achieve?

Again, they showed V’landys they won’t be used as a doormat and that he has to do stuff properly

No they didn't, nothing changed.

You’re entitled to your opinion mate but they showed him they’re willing to go all the way to court if things aren’t done properly which will make him hopefully take things more serious in the future. Just because they didn’t get exactly what they wanted doesn’t mean they didn’t send a message.

It’s cute that you actually think that matters.

I mean they also managed to make sure it was only a trial for the one ref system and at the end of the year it will be properly reviewed by a committee who will decide what happens. That’s a lot better than how it was before (V’landys just does what he wants without asking other people)

Reviewed by a committee that will only make a recommendation. Mate the refs folded and nothing changed. I thought they were saying this was about Rugby League and the safety of the players? They achieved nothing in that regard and the other win they achieved is miniscule.

Mate like i told you before you can have your opinion and I’ll have mine. If you think it’ll make literally no difference that’s fine. I don’t want to keep repeating the same things to you over and over ?

That's a good idea because it made no difference 😛

Clearly not because you kept giving the same answers ? seemed like a pointless conversation.

No I didn't you ignored the point where I said the refs said this wasn't about money or their jobs it was about Rugby League and the players safety, doesn't seem like in the end any of that was too important to them because they folded on all those points as well.

Well you ignored the point where I said they’re reviewing how the system works... you don’t think those things will be part of said review? It may only be a recommendation but with how public this has become V’landys will most likely follow what they say. If his system doesn’t work and he doubles down on it it’ll show that he doesn’t care about how it works, and that he only cares about putting in what he wants

Buckling to public pressure isn't always a good thing, that is what happened last time we had a crackdown against the wrestle. Johns and Gould got on their high horse and whinged up a storm to the point the NRL folded. Sometimes the right thing to do isn't popular.

 

[JC99]

Good on the refs. Maybe V’landys will learn next time to do things properly. Let’s see how this one ref goes, if it does actually work and gets rid of the wrestle it definitely favours us especially with Grant at hooker. If it doesn’t it makes our job even harder winning games. Fingers crossed it’s the former

lol, how will he learn? He got exactly what he wanted.

They didn’t just let him walk all over them though they showed they’ll put up a fight.

And what did they achieve?

Again, they showed V’landys they won’t be used as a doormat and that he has to do stuff properly

No they didn't, nothing changed.

You’re entitled to your opinion mate but they showed him they’re willing to go all the way to court if things aren’t done properly which will make him hopefully take things more serious in the future. Just because they didn’t get exactly what they wanted doesn’t mean they didn’t send a message.

It’s cute that you actually think that matters.

I mean they also managed to make sure it was only a trial for the one ref system and at the end of the year it will be properly reviewed by a committee who will decide what happens. That’s a lot better than how it was before (V’landys just does what he wants without asking other people)

Reviewed by a committee that will only make a recommendation. Mate the refs folded and nothing changed. I thought they were saying this was about Rugby League and the safety of the players? They achieved nothing in that regard and the other win they achieved is miniscule.

Mate like i told you before you can have your opinion and I’ll have mine. If you think it’ll make literally no difference that’s fine. I don’t want to keep repeating the same things to you over and over ?

That's a good idea because it made no difference 😛

Clearly not because you kept giving the same answers ? seemed like a pointless conversation.

No I didn't you ignored the point where I said the refs said this wasn't about money or their jobs it was about Rugby League and the players safety, doesn't seem like in the end any of that was too important to them because they folded on all those points as well.

Well you ignored the point where I said they’re reviewing how the system works... you don’t think those things will be part of said review? It may only be a recommendation but with how public this has become V’landys will most likely follow what they say. If his system doesn’t work and he doubles down on it it’ll show that he doesn’t care about how it works, and that he only cares about putting in what he wants

Buckling to public pressure isn't always a good thing, that is what happened last time we had a crackdown against the wrestle. Johns and Gould got on their high horse and whinged up a storm to the point the NRL folded. Sometimes the right thing to do isn't popular.

I completely agree. The refs should’ve kept blowing penalties until the players started learning to stop slowing down the ruck and getting back onside, instead they listened to the whining media and stopped the crackdown.

It’s just that we don’t know if this system will work and if it doesn’t PVL needs to have the guts to admit he made a mistake and change it back.

 

[cochise]

Good on the refs. Maybe V’landys will learn next time to do things properly. Let’s see how this one ref goes, if it does actually work and gets rid of the wrestle it definitely favours us especially with Grant at hooker. If it doesn’t it makes our job even harder winning games. Fingers crossed it’s the former

lol, how will he learn? He got exactly what he wanted.

They didn’t just let him walk all over them though they showed they’ll put up a fight.

And what did they achieve?

Again, they showed V’landys they won’t be used as a doormat and that he has to do stuff properly

No they didn't, nothing changed.

You’re entitled to your opinion mate but they showed him they’re willing to go all the way to court if things aren’t done properly which will make him hopefully take things more serious in the future. Just because they didn’t get exactly what they wanted doesn’t mean they didn’t send a message.

It’s cute that you actually think that matters.

I mean they also managed to make sure it was only a trial for the one ref system and at the end of the year it will be properly reviewed by a committee who will decide what happens. That’s a lot better than how it was before (V’landys just does what he wants without asking other people)

Reviewed by a committee that will only make a recommendation. Mate the refs folded and nothing changed. I thought they were saying this was about Rugby League and the safety of the players? They achieved nothing in that regard and the other win they achieved is miniscule.

Mate like i told you before you can have your opinion and I’ll have mine. If you think it’ll make literally no difference that’s fine. I don’t want to keep repeating the same things to you over and over ?

That's a good idea because it made no difference 😛

Clearly not because you kept giving the same answers ? seemed like a pointless conversation.

No I didn't you ignored the point where I said the refs said this wasn't about money or their jobs it was about Rugby League and the players safety, doesn't seem like in the end any of that was too important to them because they folded on all those points as well.

Well you ignored the point where I said they’re reviewing how the system works... you don’t think those things will be part of said review? It may only be a recommendation but with how public this has become V’landys will most likely follow what they say. If his system doesn’t work and he doubles down on it it’ll show that he doesn’t care about how it works, and that he only cares about putting in what he wants

Buckling to public pressure isn't always a good thing, that is what happened last time we had a crackdown against the wrestle. Johns and Gould got on their high horse and whinged up a storm to the point the NRL folded. Sometimes the right thing to do isn't popular.

I completely agree. The refs should’ve kept blowing penalties until the players started learning to stop slowing down the ruck and getting back onside, instead they listened to the whining media and stopped the crackdown.

It’s just that we don’t know if this system will work and if it doesn’t PVL needs to have the guts to admit he made a mistake and change it back.

He doesn't seem to lack any guts lol

 

[gallagher]

Good on the refs. Maybe V’landys will learn next time to do things properly. Let’s see how this one ref goes, if it does actually work and gets rid of the wrestle it definitely favours us especially with Grant at hooker. If it doesn’t it makes our job even harder winning games. Fingers crossed it’s the former

lol, how will he learn? He got exactly what he wanted.

They didn’t just let him walk all over them though they showed they’ll put up a fight.

And what did they achieve?

Again, they showed V’landys they won’t be used as a doormat and that he has to do stuff properly

No they didn't, nothing changed.

You’re entitled to your opinion mate but they showed him they’re willing to go all the way to court if things aren’t done properly which will make him hopefully take things more serious in the future. Just because they didn’t get exactly what they wanted doesn’t mean they didn’t send a message.

I think they showed that they weren't willing to go to court.

That's a stupid comment again. From my understanding the "collective" efforts of the Refs Association has secured some payment from the NRL for their staff who won't be employed in the re-structured competition. That is, those who V'Landys was prepared to send to the scrap heap.

The capitulation has been by V'Landys. He did not want the media scurtinising his autocratic and chaotic leadership armed with the findings of a Commissioner.

The refs have had a win here, for their colleagues. That;s what organised labour achieves. And, good on them for standing up to V'Landys.

No court acton and we're going back to one ref. They weren't willing to go to court. fact.