Pascoe sanctioned by the NRL

[Harvey]

The NRL rules that apply to proposed income were made clear by Greenburg, they allow nrl to assume that the ambassadorial job offered to Farah was a carrot to get him to leave the club , therefore earnings that have to be included in the cap.
Once you take emotion out of it and look at the facts, Pascoe made a dumb mistake and will have to take a fall for it, the best the club can hope for is a reduction in the financial penalties

Even if it was an inducement to leave, did we pay him less than he was entitled to, to go?

If not that full amount has been included in the cap & the club obtained no benefit.

If there is an agreement, was it entered into after his release? If so he was no longer employed by the club as a player and does not fall within the definition of offering your player inducements to play for a lesser amount.

 

[Snake]

9 News just went with the story of there being a contract which was very difficult for the NRL to locate.

Now we're getting down to business.

So the club has lied in its statement then , is this the mail .

I'm loathe to comment on what certain individuals did or did not do. As I understand it the issue at hand is the alleged concealment of guaranteed payments. The alleged concealment was not just concealed to the NRL I understand. That's the allegation. Whether this version or the WT version is correct, dunno…

All good get the jiff , I would imagine this will be made clear when the club has a press conference!

 

[innsaneink]

The NRL rules that apply to proposed income were made clear by Greenburg, they allow nrl to assume that the ambassadorial job offered to Farah was a carrot to get him to leave the club , therefore earnings that have to be included in the cap.
Once you take emotion out of it and look at the facts, Pascoe made a dumb mistake and will have to take a fall for it, the best the club can hope for is a reduction in the financial penalties

Yep…becoming clearer as the day goes on and it seems JP screwed up

 

[prattenparkchild]

I wouldn't be so quick to paint Pascoe as the innocent wronged party. Maybe the punishment is draconian but you don't get these kind of punishments for sloppy paperwork and/or misunderstandings. There must be a reasonable amount of evidence to support both the accusations and penalties.

Don't think anyone's listening mate

You seem quick to condemn and back the NRL. I don't trust them one bit and want to see the proof. If Pascoe has deliberately done irregular actions then fine, but if inadvertent errors or even innocent, then this is not cool. I will not hang him and leave him to rot without at least seeing what the NRL has.

I'm not quick to form any conclusion. But from what I'm told this isn't a matter of inadvertent error.

Thanks. All will come out in the wash I suppose. Unfortunately, I just don't trust the neutrality of the NRL admin. As has been said, example making but this is where a court of law can make them squirm, why wasn't consistent example making applied in all other instances.

 

[Harvey]

I wouldn't be so quick to paint Pascoe as the innocent wronged party. Maybe the punishment is draconian but you don't get these kind of punishments for sloppy paperwork and/or misunderstandings. There must be a reasonable amount of evidence to support both the accusations and penalties.

Don't think anyone's listening mate

Already accused and hung who will be our next CEO .

9 News just went with the story of there being a contract which was very difficult for the NRL to locate.

Who were the parties to said contract? Assume it was not signed without Farah’s management being involved.

If this is the case, Ayoub has his fingerprints on more cap rorting.

Am awaiting the announcement that his accreditation has been cancelled

 

[Pawsandclaws]

Don't think anyone's listening mate

Already accused and hung who will be our next CEO .

9 News just went with the story of there being a contract which was very difficult for the NRL to locate.

Who were the parties to said contract? Assume it was not signed without Farah’s management being involved.

If this is the case, Ayoub has his fingerprints on more cap rorting.

Am awaiting the announcement that his accreditation has been cancelled

Non stated but its intent was to portray the club as having made it very difficult to locate with a clear implication.

 

[Doc_Tiger]

Disgusting little man Greenburg. I wish he'd just come out and say "we don't want the tigers to be a part of the NRL." He's not man enough though

 

[cqtiger]

So there was a signed contract?

A large fine and cap restrictions for next year.
Just when I thought we had a bright CEO and heading in the right direction WHAM!

Wests Tigers will never be a force in the NRL - they just do my head in.

 

[Harvey]

Already accused and hung who will be our next CEO .

9 News just went with the story of there being a contract which was very difficult for the NRL to locate.

Who were the parties to said contract? Assume it was not signed without Farah’s management being involved.

If this is the case, Ayoub has his fingerprints on more cap rorting.

Am awaiting the announcement that his accreditation has been cancelled

Non stated but its intent was to portray the club as having made it very difficult to locate with a clear implication.

The fact it was hard to locate or that there was deception may be a mark against Pascoe, but that does not make it cap cheating.

The fines and cap reductions for next year are for salary cap cheating. If that is the case, then Ayoub is complicit and should be punished.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I dislike Ayoub as much as the next guy, but why would he be behind this now that Farah is back and on good terms with the club? Doesn’t make much sense.

 

[Tigers17]

The NRL under Greenberg's administration has been digging its own grave for some considerable time, whether or not it has any long-term future I'm convinced is up for debate as it continues to alienates supporters on a daily basis.

Greenberg has proven time and time again to be an individual of no vision and even less backbone.

Greenberg knows totally that the game in NSW is in serious trouble and if it wasn't for Queensland participation the game would fall over immediately. Greenberg has built a total reliance on suspect television ratings to save his sinking ship.

Greenberg when he took over from Dave Smith inherited millions in the NRL kitty, Greenberg has squandered all of that on what?

He talks about expansion for the game but knows full well that it is a total impossibility because of his own incompetence and total lack of business acumen.

As tragic and as heavy-handed as today's events were for the Tigers, (we will survive) the bigger picture is the long-term survival of the game and if Greenberg continues as CEO you really do have something to worry about.

 

[WT2K]

Looks like pascoe has stuffed up big time with what I've been reading over the last few pages. See what happens with the appeal I guess

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Will be interesting to see how close we were to reaching our cap for 2019\. I’m assuming seeing as how we were linked to Walker and Jennings, that we would be under enough not to have to shed any players. I guess there’s always Musgrove, who looks to be on thin ice.

 

[Snake]

I dislike Ayoub as much as the next guy, but why would he be behind this now that Farah is back and on good terms with the club? Doesn’t make much sense.

You would have to think that Farahs manager would know of a contract surely and the ramifications of it!Greenberg has now set a very high bar for breaches and it will be interesting what will happen to accused players yet to appear in court .

 

[HabboTiger]

THE nrl should have reminded wt of this and not registered farahs contract last year.

Sounds like they deliberately snookered us here.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Can we do a Cronulla, take a back dated penalty and be in the running to win the comp in two years time?

 

[The_Patriot]

Just read the last 10 pages to catch up.

Im just going to say this, i really dont care if people agree with me or want to take me task for it. Ive been saying the league is corrupt for a long time now.

Who has Justin Pascoe upset lately?

Imo Ivan Cleary and or Phil Gould are up to their necks in this.

This is what you get when you take on the inner circle of the game. We admired Pascoe for showing some ticker and being the strong leader we have wanted but this over the top punishment is their way of putting him in his place. He would have been better off letting Cleary walk.

I need to add a disclaimer because some on here just look for angles to have a go at people about, never mind this being one of the most serious moments in our history. The disclaimer is that i do not in any way think that Justin Pascoe is completely innocent here. Simply that the punishment and the over the top nature of it is pay back for him taking on Gould.

Gould has called in a favour.

 

[mike]

Just read the last 10 pages to catch up.

Im just going to say this, i really dont care if people agree with me or want to take me task for it. Ive been saying the league is corrupt for a long time now.

Who has Justin Pascoe upset lately?

Imo Ivan Cleary and or Phil Gould are up to their necks in this.

This is what you get when you take on the inner circle of the game. We admired Pascoe for showing some ticker and being the strong leader we have wanted but this over the top punishment is their way of putting him in his place. He would have been better off letting Cleary walk.

I need to add a disclaimer because some on here just look for angles to have a go at people about, never mind this being one of the most serious moments in our history. The disclaimer is that i do not in any way think that Justin Pascoe is completely innocent here. Simply that the punishment and the over the top nature of it is pay back for him taking on Gould.

Gould has called in a favour.

That had crossed my mind as well.

 

[851]

The Club paid Farah his contract monies but then applied to have part of that exempt from the Salary cap claiming he was a disruptive influence only to offer the disruptive influence a job after footy….hence the contradiction mis leading the NRL...therefor the Breach of Cap rules notice has been issued..

DUMB..

“Ambassador “ Farah ..
The gift that keeps on giving .

It was JT who caused this, if he was a decent coach with no ego he would have just coached Farah to the end of his contract and this would have never happened, but no, he had to have a peeing contest and force him out of the club, JT is the gift that keeps on giving. :angry: :angry: :angry:

 

[69-05-41]

Just when I thought it impossible to feel more contempt than I do for Turdy Greenturd and the NRL, guess who gets wheeled out for another interview as the expert on all things WT - Benny F'ing Elias!