Pascoe sanctioned by the NRL

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Many have been commenting on whether they want the salary cap penalty spread over four seasons

For me , if we don't get it reduced I say we cop it all in one season

Why mess with 4 seasons when we can get it all over in one season …...

I agree with you there Happy. If the ruling sticks, then rip the bandaid off.

Not if it’s going to cost us somebody.
 
The level of paranoia is getting a bit out of hand. Everything from Greenberg seeing Pascoe as a threat, to this being the start of a process to relocate us. One post even claimed it was the beginning of rubbing us out of the competition entirely :unamused:

I know it’s easy to feel victimised atm, but some need to come back to reality and consider, if maybe, despite the ott punishment, there is no conspiracy. We aren’t the first club to cop it, and won’t be the last.

I think if we can get the fine spread over 4 years, that would work out well. It would work out to roughly 160k a year, which could easily be worked around by TPA’s. Pascoe’s reputation has taken a hit, but he’ll recover. I think most pundits agree it was an honest mistake. He’s not a shady businessman.
 
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The level of paranoia is getting a bit out of hand. Everything from Greenberg seeing Pascoe as a threat, to this being the start of a process to relocate us. One post even claimed it was the beginning of rubbing us out of the competition entirely :unamused:

I know it’s easy to feel victimised atm, but some need to come back to reality and consider, if maybe, despite the ott punishment, there is no conspiracy. We aren’t the first club to cop it, and won’t be the last.

I think if we can get the fine spread over 4 years, that would work out well. It would work out to roughly 160k a year, which could easily be worked around by TPA’s. Pascoe’s reputation has taken a hit, but he’ll recover. I think most pundits agree it was an honest mistake. He’s not a shady businessman.

Sounds like a Todd Greenberg media release.
 
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The level of paranoia is getting a bit out of hand. Everything from Greenberg seeing Pascoe as a threat, to this being the start of a process to relocate us. One post even claimed it was the beginning of rubbing us out of the competition entirely :unamused:

I know it’s easy to feel victimised atm, but some need to come back to reality and consider, if maybe, despite the ott punishment, there is no conspiracy. We aren’t the first club to cop it, and won’t be the last.

I think if we can get the fine spread over 4 years, that would work out well. It would work out to roughly 160k a year, which could easily be worked around by TPA’s. Pascoe’s reputation has taken a hit, but he’ll recover. I think most pundits agree it was an honest mistake. He’s not a shady businessman.

Sounds like a Todd Greenberg media release.

And this thread is reading like InfoWars. Next, Greenberg will be accused of trying to turn frogs gay.
 
Sometimes you just don't need an expert opinion, original documents, sworn statements etc. The old adage; if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck and looks like a duck suffices.
So who told you about the frogs? :astonished:
 
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**Sometimes you just don't need an expert opinion, original documents, sworn statements etc. The old adage; if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck and looks like a duck suffices.**
So who told you about the frogs? :astonished:

That’s what all conspiracy theorists claim
 
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The level of paranoia is getting a bit out of hand. Everything from Greenberg seeing Pascoe as a threat, to this being the start of a process to relocate us. One post even claimed it was the beginning of rubbing us out of the competition entirely :unamused:

I know it’s easy to feel victimised atm, but some need to come back to reality and consider, if maybe, despite the ott punishment, there is no conspiracy. We aren’t the first club to cop it, and won’t be the last.

I think if we can get the fine spread over 4 years, that would work out well. It would work out to roughly 160k a year, which could easily be worked around by TPA’s. Pascoe’s reputation has taken a hit, but he’ll recover. I think most pundits agree it was an honest mistake. He’s not a shady businessman.

Sounds like a Todd Greenberg media release.

True, If it was an honest mistake and Pascoe is not a shady businessman then why did Pascoe get the big A and find himself out of a job he carrying out so well. There are no two ways about it - Greenberg has been disgraceful in handing out such a very harsh penalty to Pascoe.
 
I've discussed this with plenty of people who support other clubs and they all agree on two things…
1\. The Tigers were hard done by.
2\. The game has become a joke with Greenberg and that other buffoon Beattie at the helm.
 
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The level of paranoia is getting a bit out of hand. Everything from Greenberg seeing Pascoe as a threat, to this being the start of a process to relocate us. One post even claimed it was the beginning of rubbing us out of the competition entirely :unamused:

I know it’s easy to feel victimised atm, but some need to come back to reality and consider, if maybe, despite the ott punishment, there is no conspiracy. We aren’t the first club to cop it, and won’t be the last.

I think if we can get the fine spread over 4 years, that would work out well. It would work out to roughly 160k a year, which could easily be worked around by TPA’s. **Pascoe’s reputation has taken a hit, but he’ll recover. I think most pundits agree it was an honest mistake. He’s not a shady businessman**.

If the NRL hit Pascoe with a 12 month suspensions which they did for the Manly official, i don't think he will stick around - he is too good an operator to sit around for 12 moths and will be in high demand by other sports. If this happens the NRL should hang their heads in shame.
 
They have to go to court. There's nothing at all fair and reasonable about the current penalties imposed based on the information that's out there currently imo. Fairness and reason is all we would ask.

Well, that and the humiliation of Turd Greenberg.
 
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Many have been commenting on whether they want the salary cap penalty spread over four seasons

For me , if we don't get it reduced I say we cop it all in one season

Why mess with 4 seasons when we can get it all over in one season …...

I agree with you there Happy. If the ruling sticks, then rip the bandaid off.

Not if it’s going to cost us somebody.

It will cost us someone , but you spread it over 4 seasons it could cost us a lot more GNR

I'd rather be at a big disadvantage in one season than be at a smaller disadvantage for 4 seasons , more chance we will be in a premiership battle in 2020-22 than 2019 and you can get a high quality player that Madge wants , not a player that IC wanted before he left
 
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Many have been commenting on whether they want the salary cap penalty spread over four seasons

For me , if we don't get it reduced I say we cop it all in one season

Why mess with 4 seasons when we can get it all over in one season …...

I agree with you there Happy. If the ruling sticks, then rip the bandaid off.

Not if it’s going to cost us somebody.

It will cost us someone , but you spread it over 4 seasons it could cost us a lot more GNR

I'd rather be at a big disadvantage in one season than be at a smaller disadvantage for 4 seasons , more chance we will be in a premiership battle in 2020-22 than 2019 and you can get a high quality player that Madge wants , not a player that IC wanted before he left

I think it should reflect how many seasons were influenced.
When the Storm cheated. They had got 1 Grand final and went straight back to win another. Shuffling of the decks but no long term penalty (and an awesome effort from them IMHO).
The whole saga with this kickback to Farah, really it would only effect 2018 maybe 2019\. Farah is surely retiring in 2019 and if we are penalized for 4 years, I would find it extremely unfair.

I do get the NRL's point. The Farah contract looks like a kickback. But I am over the policing of every other damn team but the Western Sydney teams are the ones who get kicked.
 
After Xmas I’m going to phone this NRL about 10 times a day until they are totally pissed off.
These day phone calls are mostly built into your plan so they don’t cost much.
Annoy the crap out of them.
 
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After Xmas I’m going to phone this NRL about 10 times a day until they are totally pissed off.
These day phone calls are mostly built into your plan so they don’t cost much.
Annoy the crap out of them.

West tigers telemarketing :wink:
 
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After Xmas I’m going to phone this NRL about 10 times a day until they are totally pissed off.
These day phone calls are mostly built into your plan so they don’t cost much.
Annoy the crap out of them.

You want to piss off a receptionist?

What a hero.
 
I still think there is a basic conflict between WT and NRL in this situation. WT say no contract signed, NRL say there is one. NRL say contract hidden off site, WT have not said explicitly but if they're correct and contract offer from 2015 that wasn't signed by Farah, what is their obligation to store on site was the unsigned contract stores offsite with other 2015 records? A normal business practice made out in a bad light by the NRL.

Depending on the unknown facts of the contract one way or the other either WT have the NRL over a barrel or the other way around. Provided WT management have now seen the contract in question and are satisfied its not signed, take situation out of NRL hands, go to court and put an injunction on the start of 2019 season commencing and any further recruitment by any club since WT can't fairly recruit in these circumstances, and seek damages against the NRL, Neil Weeks and Todd Greenburg. FIGHT THEM.

Edit- we go to court because we can't trust the impartiality and honesty of decision making by the NRL management at this stage of events. If we accept sanction and ask for reduction of fines that means we accept their interpretation of signed contract, hidden records and malfeasance of our CEO.
 
'Used and abused': NRL accused of hogging profits from Tonga Test

onga Rugby League officials are disappointed at their poor return for their historic Test against Australia in Auckland last October.

A TVNZ One News report on Sunday said the Tongans received "virtually no proceeds" despite the sold-out game attracting 26,214 mainly Tongan fans.

The match was organised by Australia's National Rugby League (NRL), who reaped the majority of the profit.

Tonga Rugby League (TRL) president Semisi Sika told One News his organisation saw little of it.
"Once you feel you are being used and abused, that's when things are going to start changing."

The TRL were also aggrieved at not being given VIP tickets for their sponsors, who support the Mate Ma'a Tonga team.

Melino Maka of the Tongan Advisory Council says the NRL needs to change its attitude.

He said it "should treat Mate Ma'a Tonga with respect".

The NRL told One News it only made a "small profit" from the game, but the television network claimed it had received a confidential independent analysis which had estimated the match made around $1 million, after expenses.

The NRL statement said many of its other international matches, including mid-year Pacific Tests, ran at a loss, so surpluses from matches like the Tonga-Australia Test underwrote poorer performing events.

One News said the leaked report also stated the Tongans were treated in an "unfair and likely underhand manner", and an inquiry was warranted.
Its report said the Australian players were paid $5000 each, but the Tongas got $3000 per man.

"Tonga desperately wanted to have a match against Australia," Maka said.

"Australia NRL took advantage of Mate Ma'a Tonga."
 
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'Used and abused': NRL accused of hogging profits from Tonga Test

onga Rugby League officials are disappointed at their poor return for their historic Test against Australia in Auckland last October.

A TVNZ One News report on Sunday said the Tongans received "virtually no proceeds" despite the sold-out game attracting 26,214 mainly Tongan fans.

The match was organised by Australia's National Rugby League (NRL), who reaped the majority of the profit.

Tonga Rugby League (TRL) president Semisi Sika told One News his organisation saw little of it.
"Once you feel you are being used and abused, that's when things are going to start changing."

The TRL were also aggrieved at not being given VIP tickets for their sponsors, who support the Mate Ma'a Tonga team.

Melino Maka of the Tongan Advisory Council says the NRL needs to change its attitude.

He said it "should treat Mate Ma'a Tonga with respect".

The NRL told One News it only made a "small profit" from the game, but the television network claimed it had received a confidential independent analysis which had estimated the match made around $1 million, after expenses.

The NRL statement said many of its other international matches, including mid-year Pacific Tests, ran at a loss, so surpluses from matches like the Tonga-Australia Test underwrote poorer performing events.

One News said the leaked report also stated the Tongans were treated in an "unfair and likely underhand manner", and an inquiry was warranted.
Its report said the Australian players were paid $5000 each, but the Tongas got $3000 per man.

"Tonga desperately wanted to have a match against Australia," Maka said.

"Australia NRL took advantage of Mate Ma'a Tonga."

They appear to have a few different methods of fundraising. $2.5 million income between this & the recent fines dished out.

What a business model.
 
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'Used and abused': NRL accused of hogging profits from Tonga Test

onga Rugby League officials are disappointed at their poor return for their historic Test against Australia in Auckland last October.

A TVNZ One News report on Sunday said the Tongans received "virtually no proceeds" despite the sold-out game attracting 26,214 mainly Tongan fans.

The match was organised by Australia's National Rugby League (NRL), who reaped the majority of the profit.

Tonga Rugby League (TRL) president Semisi Sika told One News his organisation saw little of it.
"Once you feel you are being used and abused, that's when things are going to start changing."

The TRL were also aggrieved at not being given VIP tickets for their sponsors, who support the Mate Ma'a Tonga team.

Melino Maka of the Tongan Advisory Council says the NRL needs to change its attitude.

He said it "should treat Mate Ma'a Tonga with respect".

The NRL told One News it only made a "small profit" from the game, but the television network claimed it had received a confidential independent analysis which had estimated the match made around $1 million, after expenses.

The NRL statement said many of its other international matches, including mid-year Pacific Tests, ran at a loss, so surpluses from matches like the Tonga-Australia Test underwrote poorer performing events.

One News said the leaked report also stated the Tongans were treated in an "unfair and likely underhand manner", and an inquiry was warranted.
Its report said the Australian players were paid $5000 each, but the Tongas got $3000 per man.

"Tonga desperately wanted to have a match against Australia," Maka said.

"Australia NRL took advantage of Mate Ma'a Tonga."

They appear to have a few different methods of fundraising. $2.5 million income between this & the recent fines dished out.

What a business model.

Go fund nrl on patreon to assist them with these matters :laughing:
 
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