Pascoe to review Farah comments...

[goldcoast_tiger]

This is about money - you can dress it up anyway you want players are treated as commodities these days unfortunately Farah is yet to get used to it.

When the bulk of players [This word has been automatically removed] themselves off to the highest bidder it's unsurprising that they get treated that way.

You keep forgetting that it was the club ,that offered the contract.what does that make them, Apart from stupid.There was no option to renege on the contract after two years.
pay him out if they dont want him.
Otherwise ,pay him to play reserve grade. Thats what he said he would do.
There the choices.

 

[hammertime]

Farah could learn a thing or two from Soward

http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/jamie-soward-reveals-why-he-was-dropped-by-penrith-panthers-and-what-hell-change-in-his-game/news-story/472b91ae4d5a526b8a2acc72a35cc02b

Soward is not a Current SOO player and had better players in front of him

Doesn't matter. You think it hurt him any less that Robbie?
Vastly different attitudes.

 

[stevetiger]

Talk about a load of rubbish..now like most people I think Farah should be in the 17, but Taylor has never questioned Farahs work ethic or his ability. Right from the outset he has hammered the point its all about cohesion and changing the way the team plays. Now there might be all sorts of things going on behind the scenes and there might be dramas going on, but as far as what Taylor and the club has said to the media, he has never questioned Farahs work ethics.

Mate as the old saying goes…never let the truth get in the way of a good story

I think the problem with JT's comments are that they aren't factual. If he came out and said well Robbie makes too many mistakes at critical times and here are some examples or he misses tackles or whatever as long as it was factual we could see what he was talking about.

JT has simply made up an excuse to justify what appears to be a personal decision or a decision related to money.

Still Robbie should just shut his mouth. I think he is right in his comments but he shouldn't be stating it openly.

I really think though that this club needs to have a good look at themselves for allowing this situation to develop. I think we've give too much power to JT and probably gave too much power to Robbie a while ago. It's now a mess.

 

[stevetiger]

This is about money - you can dress it up anyway you want players are treated as commodities these days unfortunately Farah is yet to get used to it.

When the bulk of players [This word has been automatically removed] themselves off to the highest bidder it's unsurprising that they get treated that way.

You keep forgetting that it was the club ,that offered the contract.what does that make them, Apart from stupid.There was no option to renege on the contract after two years.
pay him out if they dont want him.
Otherwise ,pay him to play reserve grade. Thats what he said he would do.
There the choices.

I think that this has to be about money. I don't think Taylor could be so stupid to believe that the team will perform better with Robbie in reserve grade. If he thinks that I think he should be sacked real quick. I still think though he should be sacked based on how he has handled this situation.

Still the club is really to blame here as well. We need to work with players regarding their contracts. I wonder how this affects Brooks, Moses and Tedesco's contract negotiations and how we manage them now and in the future. We need to show some integrity and class.

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

This is about money - you can dress it up anyway you want players are treated as commodities these days unfortunately Farah is yet to get used to it.

When the bulk of players [This word has been automatically removed] themselves off to the highest bidder it's unsurprising that they get treated that way.

There is no way this is just about money.

It's most likely that he isn't following coaches orders by being a ball distributer only or he is effecting team culture.

so if what you say is true ,why isnt the players who stuff up regularly(right side defence), not being sent back to the reserves for not obeying the coach .
OR, is the way those players are playing (shooting out of the line, mostly missing tackles, not numbering up) just following what the coach is telling them to do, despite the the rest of the nrl knowing that when they need to score ,thats where they can attack for easy results .like Saints first try

Of course its about getting out of a contract

 

[Swordy]

This is about money - you can dress it up anyway you want players are treated as commodities these days unfortunately Farah is yet to get used to it.

When the bulk of players [This word has been automatically removed] themselves off to the highest bidder it's unsurprising that they get treated that way.

There is no way this is just about money.

It's most likely that he isn't following coaches orders by being a ball distributer only or he is effecting team culture.

so if what you say is true ,why isnt the players who stuff up regularly(right side defence), not being sent back to the reserves for not obeying the coach .
OR, is the way those players are playing (shooting out of the line, mostly missing tackles, not numbering up) just following what the coach is telling them to do, despite the the rest of the nrl knowing that when they need to score ,thats where they can attack for easy results .like Saints first try

Of course its about getting out of a contract

I can solve everything. Play Farah on the wing. Then he can make his 50 tackles a match out there and stay out of everyone else's way.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

This is about money - you can dress it up anyway you want players are treated as commodities these days unfortunately Farah is yet to get used to it.

When the bulk of players [This word has been automatically removed] themselves off to the highest bidder it's unsurprising that they get treated that way.

You keep forgetting that it was the club ,that offered the contract.what does that make them, Apart from stupid.There was no option to renege on the contract after two years.
pay him out if they dont want him.
Otherwise ,pay him to play reserve grade. Thats what he said he would do.
There the choices.

For Christs sake, do you actually read my posts? Despite supporting Farah being moved on I have said the following:

- I think we play better when he comes from the bench, I saw no need to change that;
- I believe Farah should get every cent he is owed by the club. If he goes to a club for $400K, he should absolutely get the additional $500K he is owed. The club want him to go, it is their obligation to honour the value he was to be paid out on the contract they offered him;
- If he wants to dig his heels in and stay he's entitled to do that, albeit in reserve grade.

I think he should be moved on, but in no way do I sanction the club trying to rip him off financially in the process. He should take the club to court if he's financially disadvantaged.

 

[Nelson]

I think that this has to be about money. I don't think Taylor could be so stupid to believe that the team will perform better with Robbie in reserve grade. If he thinks that I think he should be sacked real quick. I still think though he should be sacked based on how he has handled this situation.

Still the club is really to blame here as well. We need to work with players regarding their contracts. I wonder how this affects Brooks, Moses and Tedesco's contract negotiations and how we manage them now and in the future. We need to show some integrity and class.

There's two sides to that - caving at this point will make them look weak and people will think they can push them around in future negotiations. There is little integrity or class surrounding player contract negotiations. You can thank dodgy player managers, Brian Waldron, Andrew Gee, the entire Parramatta board and numerous other parties for that.

 

[foreveratiger]

This is about money - you can dress it up anyway you want players are treated as commodities these days unfortunately Farah is yet to get used to it.

When the bulk of players [This word has been automatically removed] themselves off to the highest bidder it's unsurprising that they get treated that way.

You keep forgetting that it was the club ,that offered the contract.what does that make them, Apart from stupid.There was no option to renege on the contract after two years.
pay him out if they dont want him.
Otherwise ,pay him to play reserve grade. Thats what he said he would do.
There the choices.

Pretty much if that's the way Farah wants to go…..Reserve Grade for him next year ( his choice ).

One way or the other it's going to count in our Cap next year .

I was personally hoping when Daley said that Farah will announce on his future soon after Origin on Fox that maybe a deal had been agreed between Farah and the Club in regards with next year .
Moving Farah to Reserve Grade and telling fans his not in the Top 17 :laughing: has probably killed any hope there was of a deal being struck .

Farah will be here next year .

 

[stevetiger]

I think that this has to be about money. I don't think Taylor could be so stupid to believe that the team will perform better with Robbie in reserve grade. If he thinks that I think he should be sacked real quick. I still think though he should be sacked based on how he has handled this situation.

Still the club is really to blame here as well. We need to work with players regarding their contracts. I wonder how this affects Brooks, Moses and Tedesco's contract negotiations and how we manage them now and in the future. We need to show some integrity and class.

There's two sides to that - caving at this point will make them look weak and people will think they can push them around in future negotiations. There is little integrity or class surrounding player contract negotiations. You can thank dodgy player managers, Brian Waldron, Andrew Gee, the entire Parramatta board and numerous other parties for that.

We should handle ourselves with class and integrity. Stating that we don't do that because others don't isn't a good way to manage your own affairs.

 

[Nelson]

I think that this has to be about money. I don't think Taylor could be so stupid to believe that the team will perform better with Robbie in reserve grade. If he thinks that I think he should be sacked real quick. I still think though he should be sacked based on how he has handled this situation.

Still the club is really to blame here as well. We need to work with players regarding their contracts. I wonder how this affects Brooks, Moses and Tedesco's contract negotiations and how we manage them now and in the future. We need to show some integrity and class.

There's two sides to that - caving at this point will make them look weak and people will think they can push them around in future negotiations. There is little integrity or class surrounding player contract negotiations. You can thank dodgy player managers, Brian Waldron, Andrew Gee, the entire Parramatta board and numerous other parties for that.

We should handle ourselves with class and integrity. Stating that we don't do that because others don't isn't a good way to manage your own affairs.

Needlessly binding ourselves in notions of integrity and class that others can exploit is also not a good way to manage affairs, especially when dealing with sharks like player managers.

 

[VonMiller58]

I think that this has to be about money. I don't think Taylor could be so stupid to believe that the team will perform better with Robbie in reserve grade. If he thinks that I think he should be sacked real quick. I still think though he should be sacked based on how he has handled this situation.

Still the club is really to blame here as well. We need to work with players regarding their contracts. I wonder how this affects Brooks, Moses and Tedesco's contract negotiations and how we manage them now and in the future. We need to show some integrity and class.

There's two sides to that - caving at this point will make them look weak and people will think they can push them around in future negotiations. There is little integrity or class surrounding player contract negotiations. You can thank dodgy player managers, Brian Waldron, Andrew Gee, the entire Parramatta board and numerous other parties for that.

We should handle ourselves with class and integrity. Stating that we don't do that because others don't isn't a good way to manage your own affairs.

Needlessly binding ourselves in notions of integrity and class that others can exploit is also not a good way to manage affairs, especially when dealing with sharks like player managers.

What is it exactly with integrity and class that you have an issue with????

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

I think that this has to be about money. I don't think Taylor could be so stupid to believe that the team will perform better with Robbie in reserve grade. If he thinks that I think he should be sacked real quick. I still think though he should be sacked based on how he has handled this situation.

Still the club is really to blame here as well. We need to work with players regarding their contracts. I wonder how this affects Brooks, Moses and Tedesco's contract negotiations and how we manage them now and in the future. We need to show some integrity and class.

There's two sides to that - caving at this point will make them look weak and people will think they can push them around in future negotiations. There is little integrity or class surrounding player contract negotiations. You can thank dodgy player managers, Brian Waldron, Andrew Gee, the entire Parramatta board and numerous other parties for that.

We should handle ourselves with class and integrity. Stating that we don't do that because others don't isn't a good way to manage your own affairs.[/

Our own club has to learn through this, to only pay what they can afford now, and in the future years of a contract.
And not to sign a contract thinking that another club will pull them out of the Poo in the later years of that contract
**Wts caused this problem themselves. No one else .
If thats not recognised, then the chance of something similar is still there**

 

[Nelson]

What is it exactly with integrity and class that you have an issue with????

In the context of contract negotiations? Because it's not the goal of it to come out looking like you have "integrity and class", the object is to get a good commercial result for the club. They're not going to come out after a failed bid for a player and console any fans by saying that they negotiated with "integrity and class".

 

[Tiger_Watto]

I thought Farah's comments were infantile, but seriously what are the club going to legitimately do about it? They can't sack him over that…

from all reports, he was placed on a media ban - Breach 1

Comments about club/coach - Breach 2

But realistically, its probably not about sacking Robbie. Its more about putting him in a corner so he ask's for a release.

Personally, Robbie knows this and by the smug look on his face, this was all scripted and his way of once again attempting to exercise control within the club through the only resource he has left, the media.

He isnt going to win this time round. It looks like the club has its cards lined up in the correct order.

Take the deal Robbie!

 

[VonMiller58]

I think that this has to be about money. I don't think Taylor could be so stupid to believe that the team will perform better with Robbie in reserve grade. If he thinks that I think he should be sacked real quick. I still think though he should be sacked based on how he has handled this situation.

Still the club is really to blame here as well. We need to work with players regarding their contracts. I wonder how this affects Brooks, Moses and Tedesco's contract negotiations and how we manage them now and in the future. We need to show some integrity and class.

There's two sides to that - caving at this point will make them look weak and people will think they can push them around in future negotiations. There is little integrity or class surrounding player contract negotiations. You can thank dodgy player managers, Brian Waldron, Andrew Gee, the entire Parramatta board and numerous other parties for that.

We should handle ourselves with class and integrity. Stating that we don't do that because others don't isn't a good way to manage your own affairs.[/

Our own club has to learn through this, to only pay what they can afford now, and in the future years of a contract.
And not to sign a contract thinking that another club will pull them out of the Poo in the later years of that contract
**Wts caused this problem themselves. No one else .
If thats not recognised, then the chance of something similar is still there**

Yes GCT it is partially a WT problem but it was the previous and even moreso the previous admin to that.

 

[851]

Farah just spoke the truth, I see nothing wrong with that, he is judged and treated differently to other players, surely Pascoe can see this.
And if Pascoe has any footy sense he will also know that was not our best 17 and not our best chance at winning.

Yep he is treated differently than any other player. If any other player came out directly criticising the coach I would expect their contract to be torn up.

Any other player wouldn't have been relegated to reserves on a BS best 17 agenda, we had a winger who is a half move into dummy half then a secondrower move to centre and a centre to wing to accommodate this stupid move.
That is not giving our team the best chance at winning, if JT is going to keep up this stupid campaign then he at least needs to pick a hooker.

 

[greatodensraven]

The sooner he leaves the better. Surely his own reputation isn't benefiting from any of this either?

 

[851]

Farah just spoke the truth, I see nothing wrong with that, he is judged and treated differently to other players, surely Pascoe can see this.
And if Pascoe has any footy sense he will also know that was not our best 17 and not our best chance at winning.

For someone who claims both should be gone next yr, you don't really ever have anything negative to say about Farah.

I don't as you say claim to want both gone, I do want both gone, and I have said it I don't know how many times, but if you believe that was our best 17 and the way to make the 8 yesterday then I have no response as it is a waste of time.
You can't tell me other players in the team yesterday didn't deserve to be in reggies too, Farah is treated different to the other players, and I can understand his frustration, doesn't mean I want him here next year.

 

[851]

Id probably be getting a warning letter if i talked publicly about my boss/company like that…wether its the truth or not.

There are things such as diplomacy, tact and professionalism....Robbies big mouth will be his undoing...and he reckons he's smart. LOL

Lol …. You're quite right ... There are some thin skinned people out there who can't take it ...

Bang on .

People come on this Forum when interviews are done by players that say total BS . I know 2 players that didn't let the Press know what they really think of our Coach despite them having past interviews saying how great he is :laughing: .

People want to believe what they want to hear . Just let them be Robots in interviews.

Plain as the nose on your face isn't FT, no player will say what he really thinks, especially a weststiger player after seeing the way the coach treats some of his players.