Player signings

Tiger78

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Just finished reading some footy news this morning and its really starting to frustate me. Paul Carter signs with Souths for 2 years and remainder of this year , looks like Sika Manu may be also going there next season. Also read the Panthers are close to getting Sam Moa and Nene Mcdonald from the Roosters and the list goes on. When are we going to sign someone ? Are we in that bad of shape that we cant afford anyone ? Because if we keep trotting this same side out we have now for the next couple of years then us supporters are going to be doing it very tough. How did we get to this sorry state that we cant buy players or if we do they are reserve graders. I love the Wests Tigers with a passion and always will but this is starting to wear thin.
 
We've been told the clubs finances are in a mess due to past admin. Bottom line is, there's no money in the kitty at the moment to buy anyone of quality. Not that there's much quality left to sign any way, like Geo mentioned in another thread.
Be patient T78, our time will come…so i keep telling myself. :unamused:
 
@Tiger78 said:
Just finished reading some footy news this morning and its really starting to frustate me. Paul Carter signs with Souths for 2 years and remainder of this year , looks like Sika Manu may be also going there next season. Also read the Panthers are close to getting Sam Moa and Nene Mcdonald from the Roosters and the list goes on. When are we going to sign someone ? Are we in that bad of shape that we cant afford anyone ? Because if we keep trotting this same side out we have now for the next couple of years then us supporters are going to be doing it very tough. How did we get to this sorry state that we cant buy players or if we do they are reserve graders. I love the Wests Tigers with a passion and always will but this is starting to wear thin.

In reply to my email enquiry yesterday to Grant Meyer he advised that he would be happy to discuss specific matters such as the one above. It is better to go straight to the source for answers rather than regurgitating the same question amongst fellow supporters who cannot come up with a satisfactory answer. Rather than sending hundreds of individual emails which obviously won't be answered I would recommend that this forum form a small committee to gather three of the most pertinent issues which are bothering the supporters and email these issues to<gmeyer@weststigers.com.au></gmeyer@weststigers.com.au>
 
Sounds like a good idea Newton because no matter how bad the clubs finances are the Nrl gives them the full cap amount as a grant so its not coming out of their pocket it must just be mismanagement of the cap that leaves us in this situation.
 
I think we are waiting till some players come off contract…I also assume we would be front loading contracts at the moment
We have guys like moltzen Rowe Lulia who are overpaid for reserve graders....they and a few others will likely not be retained freeing up SOME cash
I see 500+ clearing off the books and I'm wondering who is replacing it?

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@Newtown said:
@Tiger78 said:
Just finished reading some footy news this morning and its really starting to frustate me. Paul Carter signs with Souths for 2 years and remainder of this year , looks like Sika Manu may be also going there next season. Also read the Panthers are close to getting Sam Moa and Nene Mcdonald from the Roosters and the list goes on. When are we going to sign someone ? Are we in that bad of shape that we cant afford anyone ? Because if we keep trotting this same side out we have now for the next couple of years then us supporters are going to be doing it very tough. How did we get to this sorry state that we cant buy players or if we do they are reserve graders. I love the Wests Tigers with a passion and always will but this is starting to wear thin.

In reply to my email enquiry yesterday to Grant Meyer he advised that he would be happy to discuss specific matters such as the one above. It is better to go straight to the source for answers rather than regurgitating the same question amongst fellow supporters who cannot come up with a satisfactory answer. Rather than sending hundreds of individual emails which obviously won't be answered I would recommend that this forum form a small committee to gather three of the most pertinent issues which are bothering the supporters and email these issues to<gmeyer@weststigers.com.au></gmeyer@weststigers.com.au>

That's a great idea.

I don't know why they did away with the support Q&A we used to have, where we could post a bunch of questions in a single thread and the admin would collate them for the Tigers, and Tigers would periodically release a bunch of Q&As back to us.

I understand they don't want off-the-cuff questions and they need some time to prep the appropriate statements, but it would be great if social supporters like us in this forum could pitch questions to the entire Tigers structure.

They keep talking about engaging the fans, and I know the "dinner w the coaches" is a money maker, but some good old Q&A would do wonders as well.

I do concede however that when Grant Mayer was much more communicative a season or two ago, with his twitter and such, A LOT of people shot him down.
 
According to zero tackle.

Our 2016 team at the moment looks like this.

Woods
Tedesco
Akauola
Brooks
Cherrington
Drinkwater
Farah
Fine
Galloway
Grahm
Heleta
Hoeter
Lawrence
Lamar
Lodge
Moses
Naiqama
Nofo
Chance
Seve
Simona
Sironen
Sue
Tapau
\
\
24 Players

Would this take up our cap?
 
@littletiger said:
According to zero tackle.

Our 2016 team at the moment looks like this.

Woods
Tedesco
Akauola
Brooks
Cherrington
Drinkwater
Farah
Fine
Galloway
Grahm
Heleta
Hoeter
Lawrence
Lamar
Lodge
Moses
Naiqama
Nofo
Chance
Seve
Simona
Sironen
Sue
Tapau
\
\
24 Players

Would this take up our cap?

Gees theres a lot of talent in that list. Makes you wonder what needs to happen to get them performing week in week out as a team.
 
We are heading in the right direction….

All about patience and perseverance as the new foundations are being laid in 2015
 
Littletiger you wouldnt think that the 24 players listed would take up 6.5 mil or there abouts, if they are then some players are seriously getting over paided for the performances being dished up.
 
@littletiger said:
According to zero tackle.

Our 2016 team at the moment looks like this.

Woods
Tedesco
Akauola
Brooks
Cherrington
Drinkwater
Farah
Fine
Galloway
Grahm
Heleta
Hoeter
Lawrence
Lamar
Lodge
Moses
Naiqama
Nofo
Chance
Seve
Simona
Sironen
Sue
Tapau

24 Players

Would this take up our cap?

a rough count tells me that at least 18 of those havent even played 50 games yet.. taupau, galloway, farah, woods- that's just sad- make it a 100 game cut off and that leaves just farah and galloway.
 
I guess the young players considered to be potential future stars cost more than usual to hang on to especially with clubs like the rorters circling for any juniors they don't have to develop.
 
@goldcoast tiger said:
@Spartan117 said:
We are heading in the right direction….

All about patience and perseverance as the new foundations are being laid in 2015

What makes you so sure of that

New coach, new Board, new trainers, new recruitment officer, actually training our youngsters in defence, ( they are not taught this in NYC ).

How is that for a start?
 
@magpiecol said:
@goldcoast tiger said:
@Spartan117 said:
We are heading in the right direction….

All about patience and perseverance as the new foundations are being laid in 2015

What makes you so sure of that

New coach, new Board, new trainers, new recruitment officer, actually training our youngsters in defence, ( they are not taught this in NYC ).

How is that for a start?

Speaking of NYC I liked the idea when it first started up but now I would prefer to see reserve grade play with a mixture of older experienced players and young players. The mixture of up and comers and older more experienced would compliment each other and provide more of a contest. At the moment the U20s is a try fest with poor defence.
 
@Tiger78 said:
Littletiger you wouldnt think that the 24 players listed would take up 6.5 mil or there abouts, if they are then some players are seriously getting over paided for the performances being dished up.

We are currently dealing with alot of sins of the past, problems left to the current admin as gifts from the muppets preceeding them.

There is also the loan we took out from the NRL, which IIRC is guaranteed by being deducted from our yearly allocation from the NRL. Most club use the yearly grant to cover their salary cap. We are known to be financially struggling to begin with, neverlone not starting on par with the rest of the competition.

I dont know if the current Administration are the right people to turn it around, only time will tell. What i do know is that I rather them at the helm rather than the scourge that ran the place into the ground in the first place.

You can hear it in the fans, our thoughts echoed by the vermin in the media, that we are all tired of where we are as a club, we are tired of being told year after year that we are re-building, tired of being perennial underachievers.

Our only solace is that this time its a new group of people with greater business acumen are trying to right the ship. Its unfair to burden them with the failed promises of past. From Marina Go, down to Taylor and Co. we at least seem to have a plan. Thats more than we have ever had before, and we have definitely never had everyone pulling in the same direction.

I want to see some signings as much as the next fan, though would rather nobody than a signing that doesnt move us forward quality wise. We need to break the cycle that has us in this rut to begin with.
 
Couldnt agree more BlacknWhite i guess the only way is up at least , i know we need to be patient going to take time to rid the mistakes of the past.
 
@Black'n'White said:
@Tiger78 said:
Littletiger you wouldnt think that the 24 players listed would take up 6.5 mil or there abouts, if they are then some players are seriously getting over paided for the performances being dished up.

We are currently dealing with alot of sins of the past, problems left to the current admin as gifts from the muppets preceeding them.

There is also the loan we took out from the NRL, which IIRC is guaranteed by being deducted from our yearly allocation from the NRL. Most club use the yearly grant to cover their salary cap. We are known to be financially struggling to begin with, neverlone not starting on par with the rest of the competition.

I dont know if the current Administration are the right people to turn it around, only time will tell. What i do know is that I rather them at the helm rather than the scourge that ran the place into the ground in the first place.

You can hear it in the fans, our thoughts echoed by the vermin in the media, that we are all tired of where we are as a club, we are tired of being told year after year that we are re-building, tired of being perennial underachievers.

Our only solace is that this time its a new group of people with greater business acumen are trying to right the ship. Its unfair to burden them with the failed promises of past. From Marina Go, down to Taylor and Co. we at least seem to have a plan. Thats more than we have ever had before, and we have definitely never had everyone pulling in the same direction.

I want to see some signings as much as the next fan, though would rather nobody than a signing that doesnt move us forward quality wise. We need to break the cycle that has us in this rut to begin with.

When one half of your organisation is bankrupt , the other half has to get a loan to keep the Joint venture viable is it any wonder the club is under the pump. I do not read to much about this side of the organisation it is like lets forget that 50% of the finances are not being funded or available .Maybe this should be discussed a bit more how this has certainly put the club on the back foot! I do not care what part of the venture it is but it must be a major part of what is happening ,surely it is not the salary cap alone.
 
@Snake said:
When one half of your organisation is bankrupt , the other half has to get a loan to keep the Joint venture viable is it any wonder the club is under the pump. I do not read to much about this side of the organisation it is like lets forget that 50% of the finances are not being funded or available .Maybe this should be discussed a bit more how this has certainly put the club on the back foot! I do not care what part of the venture it is but it must be a major part of what is happening ,surely it is not the salary cap alone.

thats a different topic, and liable to get really ugly.

Casting blame wont help us, whats done is done…. what we do from here on out is more important.
 
@cunno said:
@magpiecol said:
@goldcoast tiger said:
@Spartan117 said:
We are heading in the right direction….

All about patience and perseverance as the new foundations are being laid in 2015

What makes you so sure of that

New coach, new Board, new trainers, new recruitment officer, actually training our youngsters in defence, ( they are not taught this in NYC ).

How is that for a start?

Speaking of NYC I liked the idea when it first started up but now I would prefer to see reserve grade play with a mixture of older experienced players and young players. The mixture of up and comers and older more experienced would compliment each other and provide more of a contest. At the moment the U20s is a try fest with poor defence.

Just the fact that we have a new Coach, a new board and recruitment officer, means nothing unless something shows a real improvement on the field or elsewhere.
Nothing that JT has done so far, has transferred in a positive way to the field. , and a lot of respected commentators seem to be coming to the conclusions in the last few weeks , that he is not improving our team or players , and in fact last week Gus ( who whether you like him or hate him, is one of the best brains in the game) was referring to our halves being over coached, and going backwards,

Nothing that the Board has done has had positive effect on the field, in fact, letting go of Austin, Koroibete and Thompson ( for whatever reasons) has actually dropped our overall strength. But to be fair to them we "may " have improved our bottom line. None of us would know whether that is , or is not the case , as we apparently can't afford anyone anyway.
Probably the Main thing the Board has done is stopped the infighting that was going on at that level before. But the lack of football knowledge at Board level is a worry.

Our recruitment Officer hasn't had to overextend himself and as far as I know involves only signing a couple of lower grade players including a back up for our halves that has never had a game in the Top grade
Yes Simona was resigned , but as far as recruiting players to the club, he may as well be moonlighting somewhere else as he certainly hasn't been overworked here.

Lastly , as far as our younger players being taught defence, the answer to that is there for everyone to see for themselves.
Their defence has not improved at all, and quite honestly they are not the only players in the team who also haven't improved.
There is no evidence that there's been any significant improvement, in reality we are no better than we were with Potter. , except that we have improved our injury numbers on last year. I'm hoping that we do show an improvement this week , but have no confidence that we will
I just wonder how you come to the conclusion that we are moving in the right direction, as you and the rest of us have no idea of what Taylor is doing with this team, and the only way we have to judge is on results
It doesn't take a genius to see that we need new players in the team , and some that are there are not up to this level. But for various reasons we are stuck with them, but there is no doubt that we are now a worse team than we were at the start of the season , largely due to Taylorball
 

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