Please explain..

[cochise]

why did we keep jamming in when a pass over the top was always a chance (or should I say left the door open) and we kept up the same in the second half?? Bizarre..

Talau is just not a first grader.

It has been Nofo's move forever, sometimes its justified as we are out numbered.
I can distinctly remember 5+ situations were he has jammed on short sides for no reason and got caught out.

Nofa does it so often that I can only believe that he's instructed to do it.


All wingers at all clubs are told to support their centre if they go in,the FB/cover is supposed to look after overlaps

Support their Centre? Nofa rushed in so far he was inside doueihi on the last try.

I nearly threw my remote at the screen when Nofa did that.
Beggars belief a first grade winger with 150 NRL games under his belt still still does that.

I learnt not to shoot up on my own goal line like that in under 13s...

He’s incapable of learning.

I think most of this team have no football nous at all......could that be the real problem ?

Of course.

Douhei looks like the only player with some pedigree.

It's hard being a fan.

What do we do with him, does not pass to centres or follow game plan at 6 and not a full back and doesn’t like playing centre

He needs to work on his game at 6.

He is in the NRL and if he is required to play centre which he is good at,to get the team a win sobeit,I agree he needs to develop his game at 6 and work on his defense,otherwise he is a great player for us,however he is ONE player,there are another 12 positions on the team at any one time,surely they must know their JOB as well....

Mate I agree, I pointed out his weaknesses as a 6 last year when people were fawning over him as the saviour at 6.

AD plays his best football at 6 as an individual but detracts from others games while playing there.

 

[voice_of_reason]

AD plays his best football at 6 as an individual but detracts from others games while playing there.

^ This. He's very much a 2021 clone of Blake Austin. Good players but often try to do too much alone.

 

[hank37w]

why did we keep jamming in when a pass over the top was always a chance (or should I say left the door open) and we kept up the same in the second half?? Bizarre..

Talau is just not a first grader.

It has been Nofo's move forever, sometimes its justified as we are out numbered.
I can distinctly remember 5+ situations were he has jammed on short sides for no reason and got caught out.

Nofa does it so often that I can only believe that he's instructed to do it.


All wingers at all clubs are told to support their centre if they go in,the FB/cover is supposed to look after overlaps

Support their Centre? Nofa rushed in so far he was inside doueihi on the last try.

I nearly threw my remote at the screen when Nofa did that.
Beggars belief a first grade winger with 150 NRL games under his belt still still does that.

I learnt not to shoot up on my own goal line like that in under 13s...

He’s incapable of learning.

I think most of this team have no football nous at all......could that be the real problem ?

I think they're poorly coached. But Bellamy could coach Nofo and it wouldn't make a difference. He's incapable of learning and he's made the same mistakes his entire career. He's a liability.

Defensively he is a liability. He also is great when we have the ball. We gotta accept him for who he is.

We shouldn't have signed him for 4 years.

I thought it was too long as well and probably too much money but I don't see this as a massive issue.

It's like Brooks. Sure we could do better but these guys aren't the reason we are an average footy team.

I think we have two pressing issues in our squad. We lack some class players like RTS or that Walsh kid and we lack enough solid first grade outside backs.

BJ, Nofo, Talau are poor defenders and make mistakes. Nofo is the best of those players by far. Doueihi to me should be in the halves and he has to work on his defense as well but his defense isn't as poor as the other 3.

We need some quality consistent outside backs and a class player.

He wasn't alone but we win that game last night without Nofa.

Really. I didn't see that at all. Talau and BJ were the massive problems last night. BJ offers a lot with the ball and is Nofo like in that he adds as much as he takes away.

I reckon Talau has some ability. He has a good running game and can do something with the ball but he has a lot of mistakes in him and defensively he makes the same mistakes multiple times.

I said he wasn't alone. Without any one of those guys we win last night. Nofa is one of the worst defensive wingers I have seen, just because one of the ones that is worse than him is on the other wing doesn't make him any better. If Nofa didn't play last night we win that game.

Easy to say, but who do we play in place of Noffo or Tommy, we don't have anyone.

Zac Cini was sacked Cini after one game that must have destroyed his confidence. Apart from giving Zac another go, I just don't see too much out there to run with.

Still can't get over us giving Noffo 4 years.

What were we (they) thinking.

 

[sleeve]

Game plan against Tigers'-

Crowd Brooks and AD-the only serious attacking weapons.

Kick to Talua,- suspect hands and defence.

Nouffa comes out of the line, and does't slide.

Watch Joey, hard to stop close to the line, goad him and he will make mistakes. Poor lateral movement.

Mbye , predictable and poor defender.

Just spread the ball wide, they can;t defend.

 

[hank37w]

I think Mbye is generally a pretty good defender, but agree 100% with everything else that you have said.

 

[Harvey]

It just goes to show how lacklustre our team is ...we leveled up got in front and couldnt close out the game..you know why..the Warriors had talented players at this level and wanted the win...we thought we had done enough and couldnt sustain the intensity ...
coaching fault or player fault...who knows,but its another loss when it could have been a win..

And just as a comparison,the Sharks Drags game last night highlighted elite player fraud...
Norman on 800k and Hunt on 1 mill couldnt position themselves to put the sword to the Sharks and paid the penalty with a loss...
Norman had 2 goes at finishing them off and couldnt get the job done with 2 very poor attempts at FG...800k should make sure he knows his job and should have finished them off....

Isn't Norman off contract???? Come on down

 

[Mighty_Tiger]

I would happily fly up to sydney each week and do video sessions on the opposition’s attacking, defensive weakness right down to individual players for our team and thiers but provide solutions that need to be followed.

Some of the things I see in our Tigers side is basic game plan management. Compressed defense works well against teams who don’t use there backs. Outside in teams need a fullback to direct the defense to hold the space between others to prevent the middle holes open.

The dragons with Dufty out will use 2nd edge block plays. Bash/barge then hit the centers. They won’t use outside/in or spread flat plays. There style on past few weeks will suit us if we can hold the middle and mark our center man. If we mark up we are ok. Sounds simple but BJ has no chance of doing this.

 

[Demps]

why did we keep jamming in when a pass over the top was always a chance (or should I say left the door open) and we kept up the same in the second half?? Bizarre..

Talau is just not a first grader.

It has been Nofo's move forever, sometimes its justified as we are out numbered.
I can distinctly remember 5+ situations were he has jammed on short sides for no reason and got caught out.

Nofa does it so often that I can only believe that he's instructed to do it.


All wingers at all clubs are told to support their centre if they go in,the FB/cover is supposed to look after overlaps

Support their Centre? Nofa rushed in so far he was inside doueihi on the last try.

I nearly threw my remote at the screen when Nofa did that.
Beggars belief a first grade winger with 150 NRL games under his belt still still does that.

I learnt not to shoot up on my own goal line like that in under 13s...

He’s incapable of learning.

I think most of this team have no football nous at all......could that be the real problem ?

Of course.

Douhei looks like the only player with some pedigree.

It's hard being a fan.

Exactly, and the coach moves him into a position where he gets no ball. Crazy stuff

Says the halves don't play the ball to the centres.
Move the half to the centres and now he doesn't get no ball either.

No hate on Brooks, he played well last night.


This is just one big joke.
Ropeable.

 

[isaaktigers]

I couldn’t care less what people say, but I’d prefer Allan Fitzgibbon in this week.. atleast he can stick to the edge and run fast.

 

[Newtown]

why did we keep jamming in when a pass over the top was always a chance (or should I say left the door open) and we kept up the same in the second half?? Bizarre..

Talau is just not a first grader.

It has been Nofo's move forever, sometimes its justified as we are out numbered.
I can distinctly remember 5+ situations were he has jammed on short sides for no reason and got caught out.

Apart from Talau's lack of pace and football nouse, he is not prepared to chase hardwhen a break is made. It is too easy to leave it to someone else. He watched Murchey run past him to score.

I saw that clearly. He just slowed right down and let others do the chasing. He is definietely not first grade level, centre nor winger.

 

[Demps]

I couldn’t care less what people say, but I’d prefer Allan Fitzgibbon in this week.. atleast he can stick to the edge and run fast.

He couldn't be as bad as Talau (worst)

 

[earl]

why did we keep jamming in when a pass over the top was always a chance (or should I say left the door open) and we kept up the same in the second half?? Bizarre..

Talau is just not a first grader.

It has been Nofo's move forever, sometimes its justified as we are out numbered.
I can distinctly remember 5+ situations were he has jammed on short sides for no reason and got caught out.

Nofa does it so often that I can only believe that he's instructed to do it.


All wingers at all clubs are told to support their centre if they go in,the FB/cover is supposed to look after overlaps

Support their Centre? Nofa rushed in so far he was inside doueihi on the last try.

I nearly threw my remote at the screen when Nofa did that.
Beggars belief a first grade winger with 150 NRL games under his belt still still does that.

I learnt not to shoot up on my own goal line like that in under 13s...

He’s incapable of learning.

I think most of this team have no football nous at all......could that be the real problem ?

I think they're poorly coached. But Bellamy could coach Nofo and it wouldn't make a difference. He's incapable of learning and he's made the same mistakes his entire career. He's a liability.

Defensively he is a liability. He also is great when we have the ball. We gotta accept him for who he is.

He’s not great at anything.

I disagree. He consistently belts the ball back for us. He scores tries. He is one of the better hit-up wingers in the comp.

He isn't a great winger as he lacks pace and he is a terrible defender but he is our best outside back. Doueihi may be better as an outside back but I'd play Doueihi in the halves.

 

[earl]

why did we keep jamming in when a pass over the top was always a chance (or should I say left the door open) and we kept up the same in the second half?? Bizarre..

Talau is just not a first grader.

It has been Nofo's move forever, sometimes its justified as we are out numbered.
I can distinctly remember 5+ situations were he has jammed on short sides for no reason and got caught out.

Nofa does it so often that I can only believe that he's instructed to do it.


All wingers at all clubs are told to support their centre if they go in,the FB/cover is supposed to look after overlaps

Support their Centre? Nofa rushed in so far he was inside doueihi on the last try.

I nearly threw my remote at the screen when Nofa did that.
Beggars belief a first grade winger with 150 NRL games under his belt still still does that.

I learnt not to shoot up on my own goal line like that in under 13s...

He’s incapable of learning.

I think most of this team have no football nous at all......could that be the real problem ?

Of course.

Douhei looks like the only player with some pedigree.

It's hard being a fan.

What do we do with him, does not pass to centres or follow game plan at 6 and not a full back and doesn’t like playing centre

He needs to work on his game at 6.

He is in the NRL and if he is required to play centre which he is good at,to get the team a win sobeit,I agree he needs to develop his game at 6 and work on his defense,otherwise he is a great player for us,however he is ONE player,there are another 12 positions on the team at any one time,surely they must know their JOB as well....

Mate I agree, I pointed out his weaknesses as a 6 last year when people were fawning over him as the saviour at 6.

AD plays his best football at 6 as an individual but detracts from others games while playing there.

This is the argument but he also hasn't had guys firing outside him. I think he was moved because Mbye doesn't offer an attacking threat on the edge.

 

[Demps]

why did we keep jamming in when a pass over the top was always a chance (or should I say left the door open) and we kept up the same in the second half?? Bizarre..

Talau is just not a first grader.

It has been Nofo's move forever, sometimes its justified as we are out numbered.
I can distinctly remember 5+ situations were he has jammed on short sides for no reason and got caught out.

Nofa does it so often that I can only believe that he's instructed to do it.


All wingers at all clubs are told to support their centre if they go in,the FB/cover is supposed to look after overlaps

Support their Centre? Nofa rushed in so far he was inside doueihi on the last try.

I nearly threw my remote at the screen when Nofa did that.
Beggars belief a first grade winger with 150 NRL games under his belt still still does that.

I learnt not to shoot up on my own goal line like that in under 13s...

He’s incapable of learning.

I think most of this team have no football nous at all......could that be the real problem ?

Of course.

Douhei looks like the only player with some pedigree.

It's hard being a fan.

What do we do with him, does not pass to centres or follow game plan at 6 and not a full back and doesn’t like playing centre

He needs to work on his game at 6.

He is in the NRL and if he is required to play centre which he is good at,to get the team a win sobeit,I agree he needs to develop his game at 6 and work on his defense,otherwise he is a great player for us,however he is ONE player,there are another 12 positions on the team at any one time,surely they must know their JOB as well....

Mate I agree, I pointed out his weaknesses as a 6 last year when people were fawning over him as the saviour at 6.

AD plays his best football at 6 as an individual but detracts from others games while playing there.

This is the argument but he also hasn't had guys firing outside him. I think he was moved because Mbye doesn't offer an attacking threat on the edge.

Mbye doesn't offer anything.
Why any other club is even considering him is pure insanity.

Why we even offered him a contract when he was at the dogs was insanity.
He really hasn't even shown anything too amazing.
I just hope we can walk away from him without a big loss, financially and just close the chapter.

The guy isn't a tiger, he's barely a footballer.

Joe O has looked like a great find.
He was out having breakfast with his family and the Douihei family this morning.
These are the type of people we want.
Hard working talents that believe in what were doing.
Bring some really good culture to the club that it's self should be built on good culture.

Not pretenders turning up to get paid.

Douihei, Paps and Suli ... should've all been nurtured through the juniours and made priorities.

 

[isaaktigers]

I couldn’t care less what people say, but I’d prefer Allan Fitzgibbon in this week.. atleast he can stick to the edge and run fast.

He couldn't be as bad as Talau (worst)

Meh, rather risk it.

Talau has cost us 3 games.

 

[Demps]

I couldn’t care less what people say, but I’d prefer Allan Fitzgibbon in this week.. atleast he can stick to the edge and run fast.

He couldn't be as bad as Talau (worst)

Meh, rather risk it.

Talau has cost us 3 games.

Talau needs to be dropped and never sighted again.

Bench needs better management.

 

[Lauren]

I couldn’t care less what people say, but I’d prefer Allan Fitzgibbon in this week.. atleast he can stick to the edge and run fast.

He couldn't be as bad as Talau (worst)

This is what does my head in - and it was the same with the Kepaoa selection(although we didn't really find this out until his last game), but he's a bloody centre. I admit he's a beaut finisher and all, otherwise he doesn't tick many boxes for what it takes to be an NRL winger. Just too slow and error prone.

Have no idea where we go but something else needs to be tried when our team progress and results are going backwards because of players stinking up the backline.

 

[Demps]

I couldn’t care less what people say, but I’d prefer Allan Fitzgibbon in this week.. atleast he can stick to the edge and run fast.

He couldn't be as bad as Talau (worst)

This is what does my head in - and it was the same with the Kepaoa selection(although we didn't really find this out until his last game), but he's a bloody centre. I admit he's a beaut finisher and all, otherwise he doesn't tick many boxes for what it takes to be an NRL winger. Just too slow and error prone.

Have no idea where we go but something else needs to be tried when our team progress and results are going backwards because of players stinking up the backline.

All those guys are losers.
They're not FG ready and they aren't young either so what's the issue.
Poor coaching and lack of ability.

 

[avocadoontoast]

why did we keep jamming in when a pass over the top was always a chance (or should I say left the door open) and we kept up the same in the second half?? Bizarre..

Talau is just not a first grader.

It has been Nofo's move forever, sometimes its justified as we are out numbered.
I can distinctly remember 5+ situations were he has jammed on short sides for no reason and got caught out.

Nofa does it so often that I can only believe that he's instructed to do it.


All wingers at all clubs are told to support their centre if they go in,the FB/cover is supposed to look after overlaps

Support their Centre? Nofa rushed in so far he was inside doueihi on the last try.

I nearly threw my remote at the screen when Nofa did that.
Beggars belief a first grade winger with 150 NRL games under his belt still still does that.

I learnt not to shoot up on my own goal line like that in under 13s...

He’s incapable of learning.

I think most of this team have no football nous at all......could that be the real problem ?

I think they're poorly coached. But Bellamy could coach Nofo and it wouldn't make a difference. He's incapable of learning and he's made the same mistakes his entire career. He's a liability.

Defensively he is a liability. He also is great when we have the ball. We gotta accept him for who he is.

He’s not great at anything.

I disagree. He consistently belts the ball back for us. He scores tries. He is one of the better hit-up wingers in the comp.

He isn't a great winger as he lacks pace and he is a terrible defender but he is our best outside back. Doueihi may be better as an outside back but I'd play Doueihi in the halves.

Respectfully disagree Earl. He crabs sideways more often than he goes forward, his defence is absolute abhorrent and his ability to finish a try is marginally better than Robert Jennings (but worse than George). His ability to get a 4 year extension at good money is one of the great rugby league cons of all time.

I think he’s close to the worst winger in the comp

 

[cktiger]

It just goes to show how lacklustre our team is ...we leveled up got in front and couldnt close out the game..you know why..the Warriors had talented players at this level and wanted the win...we thought we had done enough and couldnt sustain the intensity ...
coaching fault or player fault...who knows,but its another loss when it could have been a win..

And just as a comparison,the Sharks Drags game last night highlighted elite player fraud...
Norman on 800k and Hunt on 1 mill couldnt position themselves to put the sword to the Sharks and paid the penalty with a loss...
Norman had 2 goes at finishing them off and couldnt get the job done with 2 very poor attempts at FG...800k should make sure he knows his job and should have finished them off....

Isn't Norman off contract???? Come on down

We've got our own $900k halfback who couldn't position the team to beat 12 men.