Politics Super Thread - keep it all in here

[TrueTiger]

I wonder how many Americans are now wishing they hadnt voted for the Democrats....

The great USA isnt looking so great atm...especially with the disgusting scenes at the border and the radical left looking over the new Presidents shoulder at every opportunity....

Live by the sword ....die by the sword ....seems a fair quote....

I dont know who can counter the Dems atm...Politics a career that needs to be seriously evaluated before stepping into that arena....

A hell of a lot less than those that voted for his predecessor, as many of them can see real change already being delivered and more on the horizon.

Approval figures spell it out quite clearly.

How can you honestly say he is delivering quite alot when he can print money and say he solved the previous Presidents problems when he has created so many that will leave the American people paying off debt for years to come,also so many illegals to support or take American peoples jobs...
I hate politics but when I see people suffering no matter who is in CHARGE,it beggars belief...If your a DEM lover or REP lover...makes no difference if your people suffer...

I can only assume that you are unaware that our government is basically doing the same with the Reserve Bank right now.

Yes Im quite aware...the pandemic caused much of it here and other countries to go down that path...
Still doesnt excuse Biden for opening the border to let illegal imigrants in to take jobs and welfare...our borders are in better shape than the US and at least our Prime minister is looking after the citizens of our country first...BUT as usual who ever party you vote for and the opposition get in they will always be scorned and belittled by the opposing fans...its been going on for decade after decade...overall we live in a very good country with opportunity and multicutural aspects that benefit our economy and country as a whole...I dont care who gets in power as long as they use it to benefit the people not their own agendas.....

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Must be that media that people choose to see, as I saw plenty of reporting on the incident. Important to note that the 46th president had flags to half mast almost immediately as well.

In local goings on, apart from the vaccination debacle, the way premature end of Jobkeeper for select sectors and regions is kicking in. With children included, a couple of hundred thousand or so are currently joining others to become part of the nearly 10% of our fellow Australians, including hundreds of thousands of children, that have just been cruelly plunged a further $50/week into the abyss of poverty from this month.

With the skewed incentives and general framework of the for profit Job Active system, many will never be able to climb out of it. I had hoped the pandemic would bring forward real change, but as a nation we missed this opportunity.

Further to the US, how great was it to see some real work to alleviate poverty amongst the ***1.9 Trillion relief bill*** that was passed. Together with parts of the next bill proposals, there will be tangible growth and change amongst their communities and across the nation.

The relief bill is a debt millstone around the necks of Americans. More money than has ever been spent in the history of humanity. The bill itself states the 1.9 Trillion will be spent in 8 years but debt recovery (supposedly) will take 15. The debt is going to be paid back with massive tax increases as stated by Biden himself.

Biden knows this is a dog. He knows that it is going to boost inflation, devalue the dollar and make the US less competitive internationally. That is why last week he stated that he is going to pressure the G20 nations at the next G20 conference to try to force a ***GLOBAL*** minimum corporate tax rate to try to legislate for US competitiveness. It is actually disgusting. When he was elected I was concerned that he was just a front for an authoritarian leftist agenda but quieten my concerns that it wouldnt be the case. You cant get more authoritarian that trying to force a socialist New World Order on taxation.

Biden knows that massive increases in US corporate tax will accelerate the exodus of US Multinationals out of the US tax system and by trying to bully the global economy he is trying to stem the tide.

He is doing the same domestically. His proposed new tax changes mean that not all US citizens are taxed equally or fairly federally. The new tax changes make it such that State income taxes are a federal tax deduction. This has the effect that if you are a citizen of a high taxing state, you will pay less federal tax than citizens of lower taxing states. Which states have the highest state taxes? Democrat states. This is firmly targeting to try to stop the mass exodus of wealthy tax payers from out of California and NY.

About time the tax systems globally and as a whole start heading back in the right direction, both individually and collectively.


I cant get onboard with centralised global socialism. How does this fit for developing nations being pegged at high taxation rates due to US incompetence? Capitalism and markets have dragged billions out of poverty, centralised authority, imposed by first world countries will entrench global poverty.

Up to you, but whilst circumstances have changed in recent years, I still continue to be happy paying reasonable taxation, including things like the Medicare surcharge for years on end because I believe in the system.


I have no problem with taxation and I pay more than my share. Medicare is a reasonably good system and Im grateful we have our health care system (I am also glad the US have their health care system but that is an entirely different story).

Your post makes my point. You continue to be happy paying ***reasonable*** taxation. What about if the Australian economy is ticking along well but our corporate taxation rate increases by 20% mandated by global overlords because the US wanted to spend US $2T and as a result you, or someone you care about lose their jobs?

I do not believe the US should be dictating taxation policy to any other nation. They want to cripple themselves through whatever means domestically that is their prerogative.

 

[Tiger5150]

Must be that media that people choose to see, as I saw plenty of reporting on the incident. Important to note that the 46th president had flags to half mast almost immediately as well.

In local goings on, apart from the vaccination debacle, the way premature end of Jobkeeper for select sectors and regions is kicking in. With children included, a couple of hundred thousand or so are currently joining others to become part of the nearly 10% of our fellow Australians, including hundreds of thousands of children, that have just been cruelly plunged a further $50/week into the abyss of poverty from this month.

With the skewed incentives and general framework of the for profit Job Active system, many will never be able to climb out of it. I had hoped the pandemic would bring forward real change, but as a nation we missed this opportunity.

Further to the US, how great was it to see some real work to alleviate poverty amongst the ***1.9 Trillion relief bill*** that was passed. Together with parts of the next bill proposals, there will be tangible growth and change amongst their communities and across the nation.

The relief bill is a debt millstone around the necks of Americans. More money than has ever been spent in the history of humanity. The bill itself states the 1.9 Trillion will be spent in 8 years but debt recovery (supposedly) will take 15. The debt is going to be paid back with massive tax increases as stated by Biden himself.

Biden knows this is a dog. He knows that it is going to boost inflation, devalue the dollar and make the US less competitive internationally. That is why last week he stated that he is going to pressure the G20 nations at the next G20 conference to try to force a ***GLOBAL*** minimum corporate tax rate to try to legislate for US competitiveness. It is actually disgusting. When he was elected I was concerned that he was just a front for an authoritarian leftist agenda but quieten my concerns that it wouldnt be the case. You cant get more authoritarian that trying to force a socialist New World Order on taxation.

Biden knows that massive increases in US corporate tax will accelerate the exodus of US Multinationals out of the US tax system and by trying to bully the global economy he is trying to stem the tide.

He is doing the same domestically. His proposed new tax changes mean that not all US citizens are taxed equally or fairly federally. The new tax changes make it such that State income taxes are a federal tax deduction. This has the effect that if you are a citizen of a high taxing state, you will pay less federal tax than citizens of lower taxing states. Which states have the highest state taxes? Democrat states. This is firmly targeting to try to stop the mass exodus of wealthy tax payers from out of California and NY.

About time the tax systems globally and as a whole start heading back in the right direction, both individually and collectively.


I cant get onboard with centralised global socialism. How does this fit for developing nations being pegged at high taxation rates due to US incompetence? Capitalism and markets have dragged billions out of poverty, centralised authority, imposed by first world countries will entrench global poverty.

Up to you, but whilst circumstances have changed in recent years, I still continue to be happy paying reasonable taxation, including things like the Medicare surcharge for years on end because I believe in the system.


I have no problem with taxation and I pay more than my share. Medicare is a reasonably good system and Im grateful we have our health care system (I am also glad the US have their health care system but that is an entirely different story).

Your post makes my point. You continue to be happy paying ***reasonable*** taxation. What about if the Australian economy is ticking along well but our corporate taxation rate increases by 20% mandated by global overlords because the US wanted to spend US $2T and as a result you, or someone you care about lose their jobs?

I do not believe the US should be dictating taxation policy to any other nation. They want to cripple themselves through whatever means domestically that is their prerogative.

They are trying to shore up their own position because they know that when they increase corporate tax, multinationals will take their tax dollars elsewhere. Surely the G20 will tell them to get stuffed. I cant see India or China signing up for it. Maybe that is the whole point that when this goes bad Biden can point at the G20?

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Must be that media that people choose to see, as I saw plenty of reporting on the incident. Important to note that the 46th president had flags to half mast almost immediately as well.

In local goings on, apart from the vaccination debacle, the way premature end of Jobkeeper for select sectors and regions is kicking in. With children included, a couple of hundred thousand or so are currently joining others to become part of the nearly 10% of our fellow Australians, including hundreds of thousands of children, that have just been cruelly plunged a further $50/week into the abyss of poverty from this month.

With the skewed incentives and general framework of the for profit Job Active system, many will never be able to climb out of it. I had hoped the pandemic would bring forward real change, but as a nation we missed this opportunity.

Further to the US, how great was it to see some real work to alleviate poverty amongst the ***1.9 Trillion relief bill*** that was passed. Together with parts of the next bill proposals, there will be tangible growth and change amongst their communities and across the nation.

The relief bill is a debt millstone around the necks of Americans. More money than has ever been spent in the history of humanity. The bill itself states the 1.9 Trillion will be spent in 8 years but debt recovery (supposedly) will take 15. The debt is going to be paid back with massive tax increases as stated by Biden himself.

Biden knows this is a dog. He knows that it is going to boost inflation, devalue the dollar and make the US less competitive internationally. That is why last week he stated that he is going to pressure the G20 nations at the next G20 conference to try to force a ***GLOBAL*** minimum corporate tax rate to try to legislate for US competitiveness. It is actually disgusting. When he was elected I was concerned that he was just a front for an authoritarian leftist agenda but quieten my concerns that it wouldnt be the case. You cant get more authoritarian that trying to force a socialist New World Order on taxation.

Biden knows that massive increases in US corporate tax will accelerate the exodus of US Multinationals out of the US tax system and by trying to bully the global economy he is trying to stem the tide.

He is doing the same domestically. His proposed new tax changes mean that not all US citizens are taxed equally or fairly federally. The new tax changes make it such that State income taxes are a federal tax deduction. This has the effect that if you are a citizen of a high taxing state, you will pay less federal tax than citizens of lower taxing states. Which states have the highest state taxes? Democrat states. This is firmly targeting to try to stop the mass exodus of wealthy tax payers from out of California and NY.

About time the tax systems globally and as a whole start heading back in the right direction, both individually and collectively.


I cant get onboard with centralised global socialism. How does this fit for developing nations being pegged at high taxation rates due to US incompetence? Capitalism and markets have dragged billions out of poverty, centralised authority, imposed by first world countries will entrench global poverty.

Up to you, but whilst circumstances have changed in recent years, I still continue to be happy paying reasonable taxation, including things like the Medicare surcharge for years on end because I believe in the system.


I have no problem with taxation and I pay more than my share. Medicare is a reasonably good system and Im grateful we have our health care system (I am also glad the US have their health care system but that is an entirely different story).

Your post makes my point. You continue to be happy paying ***reasonable*** taxation. What about if the Australian economy is ticking along well but our corporate taxation rate increases by 20% mandated by global overlords because the US wanted to spend US $2T and as a result you, or someone you care about lose their jobs?

I do not believe the US should be dictating taxation policy to any other nation. They want to cripple themselves through whatever means domestically that is their prerogative.


They are trying to shore up their own position because they know that when they increase corporate tax, multinationals will take their tax dollars elsewhere. Surely the G20 will tell them to get stuffed. I cant see India or China signing up for it. Maybe that is the whole point that when this goes bad Biden can point at the G20?

Probably. None of the other big economies will go for it. Brazil won't, Russia won't, I doubt the UK will.

China and India definitely won't as they are going to be the next two economic superpowers. I can't even see the EU wanting to get on it.

 

[Tiger5150]

Must be that media that people choose to see, as I saw plenty of reporting on the incident. Important to note that the 46th president had flags to half mast almost immediately as well.

In local goings on, apart from the vaccination debacle, the way premature end of Jobkeeper for select sectors and regions is kicking in. With children included, a couple of hundred thousand or so are currently joining others to become part of the nearly 10% of our fellow Australians, including hundreds of thousands of children, that have just been cruelly plunged a further $50/week into the abyss of poverty from this month.

With the skewed incentives and general framework of the for profit Job Active system, many will never be able to climb out of it. I had hoped the pandemic would bring forward real change, but as a nation we missed this opportunity.

Further to the US, how great was it to see some real work to alleviate poverty amongst the ***1.9 Trillion relief bill*** that was passed. Together with parts of the next bill proposals, there will be tangible growth and change amongst their communities and across the nation.

The relief bill is a debt millstone around the necks of Americans. More money than has ever been spent in the history of humanity. The bill itself states the 1.9 Trillion will be spent in 8 years but debt recovery (supposedly) will take 15. The debt is going to be paid back with massive tax increases as stated by Biden himself.

Biden knows this is a dog. He knows that it is going to boost inflation, devalue the dollar and make the US less competitive internationally. That is why last week he stated that he is going to pressure the G20 nations at the next G20 conference to try to force a ***GLOBAL*** minimum corporate tax rate to try to legislate for US competitiveness. It is actually disgusting. When he was elected I was concerned that he was just a front for an authoritarian leftist agenda but quieten my concerns that it wouldnt be the case. You cant get more authoritarian that trying to force a socialist New World Order on taxation.

Biden knows that massive increases in US corporate tax will accelerate the exodus of US Multinationals out of the US tax system and by trying to bully the global economy he is trying to stem the tide.

He is doing the same domestically. His proposed new tax changes mean that not all US citizens are taxed equally or fairly federally. The new tax changes make it such that State income taxes are a federal tax deduction. This has the effect that if you are a citizen of a high taxing state, you will pay less federal tax than citizens of lower taxing states. Which states have the highest state taxes? Democrat states. This is firmly targeting to try to stop the mass exodus of wealthy tax payers from out of California and NY.

About time the tax systems globally and as a whole start heading back in the right direction, both individually and collectively.


I cant get onboard with centralised global socialism. How does this fit for developing nations being pegged at high taxation rates due to US incompetence? Capitalism and markets have dragged billions out of poverty, centralised authority, imposed by first world countries will entrench global poverty.

Up to you, but whilst circumstances have changed in recent years, I still continue to be happy paying reasonable taxation, including things like the Medicare surcharge for years on end because I believe in the system.


I have no problem with taxation and I pay more than my share. Medicare is a reasonably good system and Im grateful we have our health care system (I am also glad the US have their health care system but that is an entirely different story).

Your post makes my point. You continue to be happy paying ***reasonable*** taxation. What about if the Australian economy is ticking along well but our corporate taxation rate increases by 20% mandated by global overlords because the US wanted to spend US $2T and as a result you, or someone you care about lose their jobs?

I do not believe the US should be dictating taxation policy to any other nation. They want to cripple themselves through whatever means domestically that is their prerogative.


They are trying to shore up their own position because they know that when they increase corporate tax, multinationals will take their tax dollars elsewhere. Surely the G20 will tell them to get stuffed. I cant see India or China signing up for it. Maybe that is the whole point that when this goes bad Biden can point at the G20?

Probably. None of the other big economies will go for it. Brazil won't, Russia won't, I doubt the UK will.

China and India definitely won't as they are going to be the next two economic superpowers. I can't even see the EU wanting to get on it.

I reckon the EU would be all over it but agree with all of the rest.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I wonder how many Americans are now wishing they hadnt voted for the Democrats....

The great USA isnt looking so great atm...especially with the disgusting scenes at the border and the radical left looking over the new Presidents shoulder at every opportunity....

Live by the sword ....die by the sword ....seems a fair quote....

I dont know who can counter the Dems atm...Politics a career that needs to be seriously evaluated before stepping into that arena....

They are probably happy to be alive and to have a President not reacting criminally negligent to a pandemic

How good is that he’s gone. Not just the fact he’s gone, but no longer having to hear his cult go on and on with the “lol 7 more years, lol 6 more years, lol 5 more years” etc

 

[Tim Sheens]

Good to now live watch Bridget McKenzie backing Christine Holgate and pointing out the inconsistency applied to her and the pressure applied from within government.

For mine she is basically attacking and getting back at Morrison for her having to take the fall or his role in the Sports Rorts. Wonderful viewing and rightly so as this disgusting man that is Promo continues to lie directly to us.

Remembering that Morrison unleashed his blokey anger on Holgate in parliament with: “If the chief executive wishes to stand aside, well not wishes to stand aside, she’s been instructed to stand aside and if she doesn’t wish to do that, Mr Speaker, she can go.” Then he comes up with the creating the video last week.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1379619515210760194

 

[Tiger5150]

Who would have thought that being a "trained Marxist", advocating for the end of Capitalism and taking millions of dollars in donations to benefit "black communities" would be profitable enough to buy a $ 1.4M house in the whitest part of the US?

https://londonnewstime.com/the-founder-of-blm-became-a-fraudulent-brand-after-buying-a-1-4-million-home/181596/

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Who would have thought that being a "trained Marxist", advocating for the end of Capitalism and taking millions of dollars in donations to benefit "black communities" would be profitable enough to buy a $ 1.4M house in the whitest part of the US?

https://londonnewstime.com/the-founder-of-blm-became-a-fraudulent-brand-after-buying-a-1-4-million-home/181596/

Appears lefties can get in on the grift.

 

[Tim Sheens]

“Maybe if the Prime Minister’s watching, he could give me a call and I’d love an apology. But he could help me resolve my contract. What I do going forward, I will contemplate now that we have closed the door of my submission with the inquiry.” – Christine Holgate

A little more here: https://twitter.com/i/status/1381904957079658498

Great to see yet another strong women give Promo some more comeuppance. Keep it coming ladies!

 

[Tim Sheens]

“Maybe if the Prime Minister’s watching, he could give me a call and I’d love an apology. But he could help me resolve my contract. What I do going forward, I will contemplate now that we have closed the door of my submission with the inquiry.” – Christine Holgate

A little more here: https://twitter.com/i/status/1381904957079658498

Great to see yet another strong women give Promo some more comeuppance. Keep it coming ladies!

Oh yeah, I should have added that she also described his rant as "the worst case of bullying that I have witnessed"

 

[Tiger5150]

“Maybe if the Prime Minister’s watching, he could give me a call and I’d love an apology. But he could help me resolve my contract. What I do going forward, I will contemplate now that we have closed the door of my submission with the inquiry.” – Christine Holgate

A little more here: https://twitter.com/i/status/1381904957079658498

Great to see yet another strong women give Promo some more comeuppance. Keep it coming ladies!

Oh yeah, I should have added that she also described his rant as "the worst case of bullying that I have witnessed"

I understand that there is a lot of dramatic theatre about all of this, but correct me where I have this wrong..........

Holgate blows wads of tax payers money, in an state owned organisation hemorrhaging money on Cartier watches for her mates. Correctly there is decided to be an investigation into it. The PM says "She should step aside or she can go" pending the investigation.

Which bit did I get wrong?

IMO there is nothing wrong with the way she has been treated and I would expect the same of she was a man. Seems to me that she expects kd glove treatment because she is a woman?

Dramatic theatre about noting IMO.

Now there could be a case that he could have expected the same of a couple of his ministers, that is an arguable case.

 

[jadtiger]

“Maybe if the Prime Minister’s watching, he could give me a call and I’d love an apology. But he could help me resolve my contract. What I do going forward, I will contemplate now that we have closed the door of my submission with the inquiry.” – Christine Holgate

A little more here: https://twitter.com/i/status/1381904957079658498

Great to see yet another strong women give Promo some more comeuppance. Keep it coming ladies!

Oh yeah, I should have added that she also described his rant as "the worst case of bullying that I have witnessed"


I understand that there is a lot of dramatic theatre about all of this, but correct me where I have this wrong..........

Holgate blows wads of tax payers money, in an state owned organisation hemorrhaging money on Cartier watches for her mates. Correctly there is decided to be an investigation into it. The PM says "She should step aside or she can go" pending the investigation.

Which bit did I get wrong?

IMO there is nothing wrong with the way she has been treated and I would expect the same of she was a man. Seems to me that she expects kd glove treatment because she is a woman?

Dramatic theatre about noting IMO.

Now there could be a case that he could have expected the same of a couple of his ministers, that is an arguable case.

Your arguement falls at the first hurdle because Australia Post is NOT subsidised by the taxpayer or the government.

 

[mike]

“Maybe if the Prime Minister’s watching, he could give me a call and I’d love an apology. But he could help me resolve my contract. What I do going forward, I will contemplate now that we have closed the door of my submission with the inquiry.” – Christine Holgate

A little more here: https://twitter.com/i/status/1381904957079658498

Great to see yet another strong women give Promo some more comeuppance. Keep it coming ladies!

Oh yeah, I should have added that she also described his rant as "the worst case of bullying that I have witnessed"


I understand that there is a lot of dramatic theatre about all of this, but correct me where I have this wrong..........

Holgate blows wads of tax payers money, in an state owned organisation hemorrhaging money on Cartier watches for her mates. Correctly there is decided to be an investigation into it. The PM says "She should step aside or she can go" pending the investigation.

Which bit did I get wrong?

IMO there is nothing wrong with the way she has been treated and I would expect the same of she was a man. Seems to me that she expects kd glove treatment because she is a woman?

Dramatic theatre about noting IMO.

Now there could be a case that he could have expected the same of a couple of his ministers, that is an arguable case.


Your arguement falls at the first hurdle because Australia Post is NOT subsidised by the taxpayer or the government.

It's owned by the Australian Government, hence it is owned by the taxpayer. Although it does not receive direct funding, Indirectly any profit or loss is borne by the taxpayer.

 

[TrueTiger]

Who would have thought that being a "trained Marxist", advocating for the end of Capitalism and taking millions of dollars in donations to benefit "black communities" would be profitable enough to buy a $ 1.4M house in the whitest part of the US?

https://londonnewstime.com/the-founder-of-blm-became-a-fraudulent-brand-after-buying-a-1-4-million-home/181596/

BLMM.....

BLACK LIVES MONEYMATTERS...

 

[Tim Sheens]

“Maybe if the Prime Minister’s watching, he could give me a call and I’d love an apology. But he could help me resolve my contract. What I do going forward, I will contemplate now that we have closed the door of my submission with the inquiry.” – Christine Holgate

A little more here: https://twitter.com/i/status/1381904957079658498

Great to see yet another strong women give Promo some more comeuppance. Keep it coming ladies!

Oh yeah, I should have added that she also described his rant as "the worst case of bullying that I have witnessed"


I understand that there is a lot of dramatic theatre about all of this, but correct me where I have this wrong..........

Holgate blows wads of tax payers money, in an state owned organisation hemorrhaging money on Cartier watches for her mates. Correctly there is decided to be an investigation into it. The PM says "She should step aside or she can go" pending the investigation.

Which bit did I get wrong?

IMO there is nothing wrong with the way she has been treated and I would expect the same of she was a man. Seems to me that she expects kd glove treatment because she is a woman?

Dramatic theatre about noting IMO.

Now there could be a case that he could have expected the same of a couple of his ministers, that is an arguable case.


Your arguement falls at the first hurdle because Australia Post is NOT subsidised by the taxpayer or the government.

Not under her leadership and the watches were less, much less than that previously given under previous watch (pun intended) and my local post office was one of the many beneficiaries of that deal across the nation, not to mention the communities they serve.

in fact she was doing too good job, such that it made it hard for them to implement their ideological privatisation of the enterprise.

 

[jadtiger]

“Maybe if the Prime Minister’s watching, he could give me a call and I’d love an apology. But he could help me resolve my contract. What I do going forward, I will contemplate now that we have closed the door of my submission with the inquiry.” – Christine Holgate

A little more here: https://twitter.com/i/status/1381904957079658498

Great to see yet another strong women give Promo some more comeuppance. Keep it coming ladies!

Oh yeah, I should have added that she also described his rant as "the worst case of bullying that I have witnessed"


I understand that there is a lot of dramatic theatre about all of this, but correct me where I have this wrong..........

Holgate blows wads of tax payers money, in an state owned organisation hemorrhaging money on Cartier watches for her mates. Correctly there is decided to be an investigation into it. The PM says "She should step aside or she can go" pending the investigation.

Which bit did I get wrong?

IMO there is nothing wrong with the way she has been treated and I would expect the same of she was a man. Seems to me that she expects kd glove treatment because she is a woman?

Dramatic theatre about noting IMO.

Now there could be a case that he could have expected the same of a couple of his ministers, that is an arguable case.


Your arguement falls at the first hurdle because Australia Post is NOT subsidised by the taxpayer or the government.

Not under her leadership and the watches were less, much less than that previously given under previous watch (pun intended) and my local post office was one of the many beneficiaries of that deal across the nation, not to mention the communities they serve.

in fact she was doing too good job, such that it made it hard for them to implement their ideological privatisation of the enterprise.

She also argued against the sale of the main profit area in Australia Post (parcel delivery) against the governments wishes,so far she has won that arguement but i have no doubt Scammo will try again when he can get a puppet in charge of AP.The previous CEO would probably have gone along with it as he was an ex banker and loved to hack and slash everything he could to increase his yearly bonus

 

[Tiger5150]

“Maybe if the Prime Minister’s watching, he could give me a call and I’d love an apology. But he could help me resolve my contract. What I do going forward, I will contemplate now that we have closed the door of my submission with the inquiry.” – Christine Holgate

A little more here: https://twitter.com/i/status/1381904957079658498

Great to see yet another strong women give Promo some more comeuppance. Keep it coming ladies!

Oh yeah, I should have added that she also described his rant as "the worst case of bullying that I have witnessed"


I understand that there is a lot of dramatic theatre about all of this, but correct me where I have this wrong..........

Holgate blows wads of tax payers money, in an state owned organisation hemorrhaging money on Cartier watches for her mates. Correctly there is decided to be an investigation into it. The PM says "She should step aside or she can go" pending the investigation.

Which bit did I get wrong?

IMO there is nothing wrong with the way she has been treated and I would expect the same of she was a man. Seems to me that she expects kd glove treatment because she is a woman?

Dramatic theatre about noting IMO.

Now there could be a case that he could have expected the same of a couple of his ministers, that is an arguable case.


Your arguement falls at the first hurdle because Australia Post is NOT subsidised by the taxpayer or the government.

Not under her leadership and the watches were less, much less than that previously given under previous watch (pun intended) and my local post office was one of the many beneficiaries of that deal across the nation, not to mention the communities they serve.

All of that may (or may not) be true, and that is exactly what the investigation would be for. It is right that she be expected to stand aside during it.


in fact she was doing too good job, such that it made it hard for them to implement their ideological privatisation of the enterprise.

Hard to privatise a loss making operation in an industry crippled by technological advances. Maybe she was doing her part to make it less attractive for private investors by blowing $50K?

To be clear, Im not saying she was evil or pure, I dont know. On the face of it gifts of Cartier watches in an organisation that is State owned and struggling seems excessive. Scomo stating that he expected her to stand aside doesnt seem excessive and the outrage surrounding it seems pretty contrived.

 

[Tim Sheens]

“Maybe if the Prime Minister’s watching, he could give me a call and I’d love an apology. But he could help me resolve my contract. What I do going forward, I will contemplate now that we have closed the door of my submission with the inquiry.” – Christine Holgate

A little more here: https://twitter.com/i/status/1381904957079658498

Great to see yet another strong women give Promo some more comeuppance. Keep it coming ladies!

Oh yeah, I should have added that she also described his rant as "the worst case of bullying that I have witnessed"


I understand that there is a lot of dramatic theatre about all of this, but correct me where I have this wrong..........

Holgate blows wads of tax payers money, in an state owned organisation hemorrhaging money on Cartier watches for her mates. Correctly there is decided to be an investigation into it. The PM says "She should step aside or she can go" pending the investigation.

Which bit did I get wrong?

IMO there is nothing wrong with the way she has been treated and I would expect the same of she was a man. Seems to me that she expects kd glove treatment because she is a woman?

Dramatic theatre about noting IMO.

Now there could be a case that he could have expected the same of a couple of his ministers, that is an arguable case.


Your arguement falls at the first hurdle because Australia Post is NOT subsidised by the taxpayer or the government.

Not under her leadership and the watches were less, much less than that previously given under previous watch (pun intended) and my local post office was one of the many beneficiaries of that deal across the nation, not to mention the communities they serve.

All of that may (or may not) be true, and that is exactly what the investigation would be for. It is right that she be expected to stand aside during it.


in fact she was doing too good job, such that it made it hard for them to implement their ideological privatisation of the enterprise.

Hard to privatise a loss making operation in an industry crippled by technological advances. Maybe she was doing her part to make it less attractive for private investors by blowing $50K?

To be clear, Im not saying she was evil or pure, I dont know. On the face of it gifts of Cartier watches in an organisation that is State owned and struggling seems excessive. Scomo stating that he expected her to stand aside doesnt seem excessive and the outrage surrounding it seems pretty contrived.

How on earth is it right for her to be stood aside when it was within her remit?

To be clear, I am saying Morrison is an evil misogynist and Holgate was only stood down because he made wrongly attacked her.

 

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“Maybe if the Prime Minister’s watching, he could give me a call and I’d love an apology. But he could help me resolve my contract. What I do going forward, I will contemplate now that we have closed the door of my submission with the inquiry.” – Christine Holgate

A little more here: https://twitter.com/i/status/1381904957079658498

Great to see yet another strong women give Promo some more comeuppance. Keep it coming ladies!

Oh yeah, I should have added that she also described his rant as "the worst case of bullying that I have witnessed"


I understand that there is a lot of dramatic theatre about all of this, but correct me where I have this wrong..........

Holgate blows wads of tax payers money, in an state owned organisation hemorrhaging money on Cartier watches for her mates. Correctly there is decided to be an investigation into it. The PM says "She should step aside or she can go" pending the investigation.

Which bit did I get wrong?

IMO there is nothing wrong with the way she has been treated and I would expect the same of she was a man. Seems to me that she expects kd glove treatment because she is a woman?

Dramatic theatre about noting IMO.

Now there could be a case that he could have expected the same of a couple of his ministers, that is an arguable case.


Your arguement falls at the first hurdle because Australia Post is NOT subsidised by the taxpayer or the government.

Not under her leadership and the watches were less, much less than that previously given under previous watch (pun intended) and my local post office was one of the many beneficiaries of that deal across the nation, not to mention the communities they serve.

All of that may (or may not) be true, and that is exactly what the investigation would be for. It is right that she be expected to stand aside during it.


in fact she was doing too good job, such that it made it hard for them to implement their ideological privatisation of the enterprise.

Hard to privatise a loss making operation in an industry crippled by technological advances. Maybe she was doing her part to make it less attractive for private investors by blowing $50K?

To be clear, Im not saying she was evil or pure, I dont know. On the face of it gifts of Cartier watches in an organisation that is State owned and struggling seems excessive. Scomo stating that he expected her to stand aside doesnt seem excessive and the outrage surrounding it seems pretty contrived.

How on earth is it right for her to be stood aside when it was within her remit?

The investigation was to determine if indeed it was within her remit to buy $50K worth of Cartier watches. If I bought $50K worth of Cartier watches in my business, what do you think the ATO would say about it?


To be clear, I am saying Morrison is an evil misogynist and Holgate was only stood down because he made wrongly attacked her.

YOu have made yourself pretty clear here, I dont think there is any ambiguity. I think you are wrong however.