Politics Super Thread - keep it all in here

[GNR4LIFE]

Been a while since I have dipped my toe into American politics and Trumpism, but I thought this clip had to be shared. The people interviewed in these clips….I’m not even going to describe them, just see for yourself. But just one example, one woman claims that Biden was assassinated at Guantanamo Bay in 2019, and this Joe Biden is a fake. Also Michael Jackson is alive who had help from Donald Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon in faking his death and he will return to perform at Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon’s inauguration when he wins again in ‘24….yeah.

https://youtu.be/UBj6d0-907A

Will Michael Jackson look like an extra from the Thriller film clip when he performs?

He could. I’m sure that woman was at Dealy Plaza about 6 months ago, amongst the gathering of people who were expecting JFK Jr to show up and announce he was running in 2024. We share oxygen with these people.

 

[paul wright]

Been a while since I have dipped my toe into American politics and Trumpism, but I thought this clip had to be shared. The people interviewed in these clips….I’m not even going to describe them, just see for yourself. But just one example, one woman claims that Biden was assassinated at Guantanamo Bay in 2019, and this Joe Biden is a fake. Also Michael Jackson is alive who had help from Donald Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon in faking his death and he will return to perform at Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon’s inauguration when he wins again in ‘24….yeah.

https://youtu.be/UBj6d0-907A

Will Michael Jackson look like an extra from the Thriller film clip when he performs?

He could. I’m sure that woman was at Dealy Plaza about 6 months ago, amongst the gathering of people who were expecting JFK Jr to show up and announce he was running in 2024. We share oxygen with these people.

She did get to see Elvis come back though

 

[Yossarian]

**222 in Aged Care dead in this past 7 days with covid, 1 bloody week!** That is not living with covid and how on earth we have gotten to the stage where the minister responsible goes to the cricket for three days during a pandemic after his earlier failures and the PM continues to protect him.

Edit: Him along with senators Antic, Rennick and Canavan who spread covid disinformation and should be replaced.

Cannot fathom how anybody with a conscience could not feel guilty about allowing this, let alone even thinking about voting for them again.


Many will be fooled again by Scamo and his magic box of cash giveaways to marginal and coalition electorates.Avarice is a massive part of right wing politics.
Climate change and covid will be forgotten by many as all they can see if a "Fist full of dollars" and that is even before Scamo and his cohorts run their baseless scare campaigns

In a text message exchange between fellow Liberals released today, one a premier described Morrison as being a "horrible, horrible person" and the other, one of his current cabinet ministers, as him being a "fraud" and "complete phsyco".

Unsurprised that such views would be held by his peers, my thoughts then went to the post sitting directly above this that questions "Albo" when I heard his own Minister had called the PM a fraud.

Morrison is all of that and more, a disgusting man, one dishonest to the core who uses a personal photographer and huge PR department that he created within his office to project the false pretence of Scotty being a totally different person. Oddly enough, Anthony Albanese is basically the caring friendly knockabout guy that the phony PM and his team fabricate and sell to the community.


It was reportedly Gladys who described Morrisson as a "horrible horrible person" but i would love to know who the minister is who is so critical of him.If i was to take a wild guess i would say it would be Mr Potato Head or one of his supporters.he has plenty of form in that area

I don’t see Gladys and Dutton being text buddies. More likely someone from NSW. Someone like Susan Ley would be my bet.

My money is on Marise Payne, wife of Stuart Ayers and supporter of Gladys.

Yeah very possibly. I’d think it was a woman.

 

[Magpie_Magic]

I'm wondering, what is the point of difference between the major parties on important policy?

Is there a choice?

 

[Tim Sheens]

I'm wondering, what is the point of difference between the major parties on important policy?

Is there a choice?

Depends on what you call important policy and whether one wants a government that doubled debt without anything tangible to show for it prior to covid. One that also tried to scare you into thinking that having electric vehicles are going to ruin your weekend, or choose one that will have a reasonable go at providing a habitable planet for future generations.

 

[Magpie_Magic]

I'm wondering, what is the point of difference between the major parties on important policy?

Is there a choice?

Depends on what you call important policy and whether one wants a government that doubled debt without anything tangible to show for it prior to covid. One that also tried to scare you into thinking that having electric vehicles are going to ruin your weekend, or choose one that will have a reasonable go at providing a habitable planet for future generations.

I think Shorten offered real change as did Whitlam many moons ago and Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon overseas more recently love him or hate him at least there is choice. whether one liked the policy offered or not but now I like you think much of what you mentioned is Important, somehow I believe that if labor was in office there would be only variation at the margin.
Let's face it, the debt ended up supporting and inflating house prices during a curfew incredibly enough . Price controls should have been in force as during WW2 during the lockdown.

Seems that's all most people and by extension the government cares about in the end in this country.

Others will pay it off.

 

[crazycat]

I'm wondering, what is the point of difference between the major parties on important policy?

Is there a choice?

Depends on what you call important policy and whether one wants a government that doubled debt without anything tangible to show for it prior to covid. One that also tried to scare you into thinking that having electric vehicles are going to ruin your weekend, or choose one that will have a reasonable go at providing a habitable planet for future generations.

Nice summary. If there's anything left of the Australian values I grew up with, the last thing that should be on the mind of voters is policy. Why should we reward a government shown to be corrupt (car parks, sports rorts, Beetrooters sms of findings on droughts,, Taylor's land leases.....), criminal and incompetent?

Forget the Big Swinging Dicks as government MPs like to refer to themselves. I hope it's the Big Swinging Baseball bats carried by millions of voters on election day.


Increasingly, if they are focused on policy it is based on self-interest

Wait, hold on.
Look people don't get scomo and I think you do above, great salesman but hopeless manager. We have seen this through Covid and utter inaction at the federal level.

Yet what's your beef with Policy?
Policy is how anything changes. Voters should be concerned with Policy, Do they agree with youth wages for example?? real policy that has real consequences. (one of those is making young 22 year olds and 26 year olds unemployable. as they were excluded)

What Voters should not be concerned about:
How Julia Gillard looks in a suit
Engadine macca's
Kevin Rudd's wife and Julia's partner.
Will John Howard resign to replace Peter costello
(trying to remember all the campaigns..)

 

[paul wright]

short-term self-interest.

That in a nutshell is what many people think about when they vote,it is sad but true.What makes it worse is because the media is now dominated by Murdoch (an American) a very unbalanced opinion is pushed by his assetts both in print and Fox/Sky.Clive Palmer will also be throwing in the vicinity of $80M+ to get a party that is in favour of his mining policies returned.
The only "self interest" all Australians should be concerned about is making our country a better place to live and give our future generations a good sustainable future.

 

[Magpie_Magic]

Perhaps Dan Andrews anyone.
We can learn what it's like to live in a dictatorship.

At least he "knows" whats good for us.

 

[Magpie_Magic]

short-term self-interest.



That in a nutshell is what many people think about when they vote,it is sad but true.What makes it worse is because the media is now dominated by Murdoch (an American) a very unbalanced opinion is pushed by his assetts both in print and Fox/Sky.Clive Palmer will also be throwing in the vicinity of $80M+ to get a party that is in favour of his mining policies returned.
The only "self interest" all Australians should be concerned about is making our country a better place to live and give our future generations a good sustainable future.

Sustainable future?

For who?

Many can't afford kids and housing in this country. Things are not sustainable for them.

Globalization and sustainability isn't not really compatible.

Green is really Red you know.

 

[paul wright]

short-term self-interest.



That in a nutshell is what many people think about when they vote,it is sad but true.What makes it worse is because the media is now dominated by Murdoch (an American) a very unbalanced opinion is pushed by his assetts both in print and Fox/Sky.Clive Palmer will also be throwing in the vicinity of $80M+ to get a party that is in favour of his mining policies returned.
The only "self interest" all Australians should be concerned about is making our country a better place to live and give our future generations a good sustainable future.

Sustainable future?

For who?

Our descendants, or don't you dive a rats about anybody but yourself?I have a LNP party mate who is exactly like that he is all about me me me and he wonders why no woman has ever been interested in him

 

[Magpie_Magic]

short-term self-interest.



That in a nutshell is what many people think about when they vote,it is sad but true.What makes it worse is because the media is now dominated by Murdoch (an American) a very unbalanced opinion is pushed by his assetts both in print and Fox/Sky.Clive Palmer will also be throwing in the vicinity of $80M+ to get a party that is in favour of his mining policies returned.
The only "self interest" all Australians should be concerned about is making our country a better place to live and give our future generations a good sustainable future.

Sustainable future?

For who?


Our descendants, or don't you dive a rats about anybody but yourself?I have a LNP party mate who is exactly like that he is all about me me me and he wonders why no woman has ever been interested in him

Sustainability is a form of wealth transfer in some respects to aid in globalization which helps contribute to rising populations in the developing world. Population explosions are the elephant in the room re sustainability.

How will we even know what type of future our kids will desire? Maybe our kids will wish to own a house without waiting for their parents to die to inherit it and desire a certain lifestyle which is somewhat contrary to what we expect.

 

[Tim Sheens]

short-term self-interest.



That in a nutshell is what many people think about when they vote,it is sad but true.What makes it worse is because the media is now dominated by Murdoch (an American) a very unbalanced opinion is pushed by his assetts both in print and Fox/Sky.Clive Palmer will also be throwing in the vicinity of $80M+ to get a party that is in favour of his mining policies returned.
The only "self interest" all Australians should be concerned about is making our country a better place to live and give our future generations a good sustainable future.

Sustainable future?

For who?


Our descendants, or don't you dive a rats about anybody but yourself?I have a LNP party mate who is exactly like that he is all about me me me and he wonders why no woman has ever been interested in him

Sustainability is a form of wealth transfer in some respects to aid in globalization which helps contribute to rising populations in the developing world. Population explosions are the elephant in the room re sustainability.

How will we even know what type of future our kids will desire? Maybe our kids will wish to own a house without waiting for their parents to die to inherit it and desire a certain lifestyle which is somewhat contrary to what we expect.

The majority of those kid's parents seem to have voted against changes that almost certainly would have taken many investors and heat out of the property market. Quite sad really and yes for anyone wondering, I am an outright home owner as are all my family and they have various numbers of other properties, none being new builds due to the hollow advantageous tax policy created under Howard/Costello

Nearly as sad as there being no responsibility for ministers in the Morrison government. Richard Colbeck should have resigned or been removed after the colossal failure and deaths in 2020, let alone spending three days at the cricket as the aged care residents are collapsing and dying as is the system.

Real change was made under the previous government, a minority one at that and it passed more legislation than any other in a single term. Yet we had to put up with he of promoting "Ditch The Witch" and the stupidity of repealing transformational policy. Not much has changed in the best part of a decade since, with women protesting about rape and misogyny being told by his current iteration that they were lucky not to be shot at in this country.

There are huge differences between the major parties and apart from fools or the racist elements, mainly the greed and short term thinking of others that fellow posters wrote of above is again holding the nation back.

 

[Yossarian]

Perhaps Dan Andrews anyone.
We can learn what it's like to live in a dictatorship.

At least he "knows" whats good for us.

Dictatorship? Doesn’t he have an election coming up this year?

 

[Magpie_Magic]

Perhaps Dan Andrews anyone.
We can learn what it's like to live in a dictatorship.

At least he "knows" whats good for us.

Dictatorship? Doesn’t he have an election coming up this year?

I was being fesishez. He's trying to enjoy it while it lasts but there has been some strange stuff going on down there.

I wouldn't want that type of summary powers type government who knows whats good for us.

 

[Tim Sheens]

So the "complete phsyco" PM's deputy knows that Morrison is an untrustworthy liar and interesting that he wanted Brittany Higgins to know this on the night that one of the security guards on duty let some of her thoughts be known.

The message to Ms Higgins from Mr Joyce through an intermediate stated: “Tell BH [Brittany Higgins] I and Scott, he is Scott to me until I have to recognise his office, don’t get along.

“He is a hypocrite and a liar from my observations and that is over a long time.

“I have never trusted him and I dislike how he earnestly rearranges the truth to a lie.”

Again, anyone even thinking of voting this man back into government needs to have a good look in the mirror.