Possible Fullbacks

[Goose]

This will be unpopular, I dont really want Dugan, i reckon he could be more trouble than he is worth.

I think they are working towards Tedesco, he will not be ready next year IMO, 2013, if he develops as they hope, is more realistic, he may play a few games next year.

 

[gold_on_black]

all the papers said he'll get 500 a year, or that it's "blair's $2m payday".

everyone says we paid 500 a year for him but that was his asking price…...
just like buying a house you advertise it as 500k but u expect 10+ % less than the asking price dont you
blair = 500k - a minimum of 10%

 

[gold_on_black]

This will be unpopular, I dont really want Dugan, i reckon he could be more trouble than he is worth.

I think they are working towards Tedesco, he will not be ready next year IMO, 2013, if he develops as they hope, is more realistic, he may play a few games next year.

Dugan hasn't done anything wrong in my opinion
yeah he has a bad boy image and seems to have a lot of confidense/ego but i think thats what makes him good

in saying that im happy to see some reserves/u20s and a few others(brown,reddy) being given a shot to win the jersey

 

[1974semifinal]

huh? I love the tigers, and Shifty for that matter. I think I got Blair's and Bell's ages confused, but whatever, 500k a year on blair is a pretty big fee for a position that realitically isn't that important.

Hey be careful..you are not allowed to have an opinion which differs from the Board. Teflon Tim is untouchable here at times, so I have found out. Until Blair shows his worth there will always be questions about his signing, and whatever, he did not come cheap, ask Gibbs and Moltzen. BUT.. good forwards are still as important as flashy backs , even in this modern game.

 

[1974semifinal]

I'm of the strong belief though our fullback next year is just a stop gap for Tedesco to make the grade be it Brown or Reddy.

Not sure if Tedesco will make the grade but I think that is the plan for the future.

Tedesco took the step up from SG Ball to NYC with no trouble finishing with some impressive stats in particular his kick return averages being the highest in NYC.

He needs to bulk up a bit and a full off season presumably with the top squad should fix that. Didn't work for Mullaney Yes…But I think Tedesco is different in that he is also a ball player and just has that football brain that you just can't teach. His seen his good mate Matt Groat make the step up and maybe it will be his turn next year.

Tedesco has been very impressive in the U20s games I've seen, you are right he needs to bulk up but that will come with a tailored program. He is a long term prospect in the meantime players like Brown have a chance.

Okay..I do not have much right to comment on Tedesco having hardly seen him. IS he really that good..Mullany outscored everybody in that U20s but he apparently was a bum..no good for this club. So what are Tedesco's chances ??

 

[Blackandwhite]

Okay..I do not have much right to comment on Tedesco having hardly seen him. IS he really that good..Mullany outscored everybody in that U20s but he apparently was a bum..no good for this club. So what are Tedesco's chances ??

Tedesco has consistently performed at junior level he has the runs on the board to indicate a bright future.

2009 Age 16…. Wests Magpies Harold Matts player of the year.

2010 Age 17 plays Under 18 SG Ball for Wests Magpies....Makes NSW and Australian Schoolboys team.

2011 Age 18 plays second year Wests SG Ball.. Wests Magpies SG Ball player of the year...plays 13 NYC games. 8 tries, 13 goals, 58 points.

If that trend continues what are his chances ? Pretty bloody good I would say.

 

[snowleopard]

what is the problem with Mullaney? Has he signed with another club?

 

[Blackandwhite]

what is the problem with Mullaney? Has he signed with another club?

Mullaney has signed with Parramatta. TheProblem ?.. I don't know he wasn't really ever given a chance. Time will tell.

 

[snowleopard]

ok & thanks…interesting why some get a chance ..and others don't ..must be "politics" or 'personality'

 

[happy_tiger]

huh? I love the tigers, and Shifty for that matter. I think I got Blair's and Bell's ages confused, but whatever, 500k a year on blair is a pretty big fee for a position that realitically isn't that important.

Hey be careful..you are not allowed to have an opinion which differs from the Board. Teflon Tim is untouchable here at times, so I have found out. Until Blair shows his worth there will always be questions about his signing, and whatever, he did not come cheap, ask Gibbs and Moltzen. BUT.. good forwards are still as important as flashy backs , even in this modern game.

Blair is a good forward but is even a better wrestler and team leader With our current group of young guns Adam Blair will be a great influence over them and will make them even better forwards

 

[snowleopard]

hope you are right ..cause it's a heap of $$$ to pay for one player and when you throw in the lost opportunity cost of players like Moltzen it's a big risk, especially if he has another brain explosion like the other night

 

[Swordy]

Remember, whatever fullback we choose has to have the playmaking and ballplaying skills similar to other modern fullbacks.

IMO, Grant, Reddy, Brown, or Beau Ryan do NOT fit that description. Sure, they may be good footballers, but none of them have those required 'extra' skills. I think Moltzen going was not what the club expected. They took a gamble and lost out.

 

[bp_tiger]

Tedesco was the one bright light in the 20s lose to the cowboys, he is a ball player and really looks the goods. With a good of season he may just get a go in the trails. Also the other bright light is David Nofoaluma this kid is the real deal he was unstopable, was a shame miller and curtis could not give him more clean ball. These two will play Nrl for sure.

 

[gold_on_black]

Remember, whatever fullback we choose has to have the playmaking and ballplaying skills similar to other modern fullbacks.

IMO, Grant, Reddy, Brown, or Beau Ryan do NOT fit that description. Sure, they may be good footballers, but none of them have those required 'extra' skills. I think Moltzen going was not what the club expected. They took a gamble and lost out.

Do you rate slater as the worlds best fullback…possibly one of the greatest fullbacks?...(which he is)
because slater has been known to saythat his passing game is one of his weak points and he never had a natural passing game and it was something he has slowly developed and needs to be working on.

 

[barra]

I'm not sold on Dugan as a good fit for WT. But from what I have seen of Tedesco, I really like his play a lot. Natural fullback with good hunger, looks to have all the attributes and I would like to see him given every chance to be our full back when he is ready. A game or two next year may not be beyond him.

 

[Swordy]

Remember, whatever fullback we choose has to have the playmaking and ballplaying skills similar to other modern fullbacks.

IMO, Grant, Reddy, Brown, or Beau Ryan do NOT fit that description. Sure, they may be good footballers, but none of them have those required 'extra' skills. I think Moltzen going was not what the club expected. They took a gamble and lost out.

Do you rate slater as the worlds best fullback…possibly one of the greatest fullbacks?...(which he is)
because slater has been known to saythat his passing game is one of his weak points and he never had a natural passing game and it was something he has slowly developed and needs to be working on.

I do rate him as the best, but based on your comments which are spot on, I might clarify what I mean.

A fullback needs to be able to read the game like a playmaker. They may not be able to do it, but they can learn if they have that initial skill. As much as I like Beau Ryan and Mitch Brown especially, neither of them have that special read in my opinion. Don't get me wrong, both great players, but not with that exceptional vision. Grant may have it, but he is a big lump of a lad and coming from Rugby, things are very, very different. I'd be extremely surprised if he could read the game that well.

Which probably leaves Reddy as the one most people are leaning toward. Does he read the game exceptinally well? From what I have seen, he does above average, but not exceptional. Could he learn the skills, sure. Do I think he will, no. I think he will be a great winger or centre.

Like you said, Slater learned those skills. So did Matt Bowen. Both nippy and can get to the position they need to be quickly. Others like Lachlan Coote, Brett Stewart, can read a game but have had to learn those skills. Maybe Joel Reddy is in that category. I just think Tim Moltzen reads a game extremely well. Others like to bag the crap out of him on here, but I disagree. Hodgo was another who read the game extremely well and learned to be around the ruck and throw the passes.

So I guess it means Reddy is our best option for now. I expect a big surprise from next year. Maybe even Benji at fullback when Rob Lui gains that confidence to run the show and do it well.

 

[biggest_tigers_fan]

maybe luke burt now lol

 

[WestsSupporter]

The flying fish Glen Fishiiahi would be great he gets no game time at Warriors anyway.

 

[gold_on_black]

Remember, whatever fullback we choose has to have the playmaking and ballplaying skills similar to other modern fullbacks.

IMO, Grant, Reddy, Brown, or Beau Ryan do NOT fit that description. Sure, they may be good footballers, but none of them have those required 'extra' skills. I think Moltzen going was not what the club expected. They took a gamble and lost out.

Do you rate slater as the worlds best fullback…possibly one of the greatest fullbacks?...(which he is)
because slater has been known to saythat his passing game is one of his weak points and he never had a natural passing game and it was something he has slowly developed and needs to be working on.

I do rate him as the best, but based on your comments which are spot on, I might clarify what I mean.

A fullback needs to be able to read the game like a playmaker. They may not be able to do it, but they can learn if they have that initial skill. As much as I like Beau Ryan and Mitch Brown especially, neither of them have that special read in my opinion. Don't get me wrong, both great players, but not with that exceptional vision. Grant may have it, but he is a big lump of a lad and coming from Rugby, things are very, very different. I'd be extremely surprised if he could read the game that well.

Which probably leaves Reddy as the one most people are leaning toward. Does he read the game exceptinally well? From what I have seen, he does above average, but not exceptional. Could he learn the skills, sure. Do I think he will, no. I think he will be a great winger or centre.

Like you said, Slater learned those skills. So did Matt Bowen. Both nippy and can get to the position they need to be quickly. Others like Lachlan Coote, Brett Stewart, can read a game but have had to learn those skills. Maybe Joel Reddy is in that category. I just think Tim Moltzen reads a game extremely well. Others like to bag the crap out of him on here, but I disagree. Hodgo was another who read the game extremely well and learned to be around the ruck and throw the passes.

So I guess it means Reddy is our best option for now. I expect a big surprise from next year. Maybe even Benji at fullback when Rob Lui gains that confidence to run the show and do it well.

yep i see what you are saying…id have to agree that reddy would be a handy option at fullback...although there is always chris lawrence who reads a game very well and reddy was possible bought to take his spot....also there is the move from benji to fullback(sheens always says he wants to shift rowdy to 5/8 like laurie, but we also have curtis and miller to fill 5/8 or lui to 5/8 and miller to half)
there is also the other option of giving a half a shot at fullback luke curtis or miller(not too sure about their speed)

although sheens seems to think if your good enough your old enough so by the start of next season will tedesco be good enough???

 

[supercoach]

Sheens wants a full back in a 5/8th body, a Hogo clone.