I can't think of a more perfect way to stoke racism than by giving people different sentences for the same crime, based solely on their race.
So it's most definitely not about achieving concrete outcomes then, it's just about telling a particular group they're special. That's fine, but can we at least stop pretending it's about 'closing the gap' then?
Earl you have an uncanny ability to project arrogance and ignorance in equal parts. Its quite breathtaking. You love data and facts, just dont understand them.
Deaths in custody in Australia 2021-22 Deaths in custody in Australia
The National Deaths in Custody Program has monitored the extent and nature of deaths occurring in prison, police custody and youth detention in Australia since 1980. The Australian Institute of Criminology has coordinated the program since its establishment in 1992, the result of a...www.aic.gov.au
This shows 20% of deaths in custody were Indigenous which is 10 times the national average.
Can you please provide references of your data or alternatively admit that you made it up. If you don't provide references you've made it up.
Let's try and keep our feelings out of it unless you are clearly articulating it's your feelings.
www.abs.gov.au
www.abs.gov.au
Its fascinating that a no advocate might become a Liberal politician, but completely different if a yes advocate is a current Labor politician. Righto Earl. At least you put it out there.
No you were making up a point about how the system works against Indigenous people, completely bereft of facts, based only only the vibe you have in your head. I have asked you how you make the assertion that indigenous people are incarcerated for "trivial" offences when the actual facts and data dont back that up.
| Stock-Flow Offence profile for ATSI prisoners (ex traffic) | Flow | Stock |
|---|---|---|
| 01 Homicide and related offences | 0% | 6% |
| 02 Acts intended to cause injury | 38% | 31% |
| 03 Sexual assault and related offences | 2% | 8% |
| 04 Dangerous or negligent acts endangering persons | 1% | 4% |
| 05 Abduction, harassment etc | 1% | 1% |
| 06 Robbery, extortion and related offences | 3% | 10% |
| 07 Unlawful entry with intent/burglary, break and enter | 14% | 17% |
| 08 Theft and related offences | 10% | 3% |
| 09 Fraud, deception and related offences | 2% | 1% |
| 10 Illicit drug offences | 4% | 2% |
| 11 Weapons and explosives offences | 1% | 0% |
| 12 Property damage and environmental pollution | 4% | 1% |
| 13 Public order offences | 4% | 1% |
| 15 Offences against justice procedures | 17% | 13% |
| 16 Miscellaneous offences | 0% | 0% |
You are hilarious Earl. I "backed up my point" by posting ABS stats a couple of posts above (post 1046) which complete proves the correct point that I and others have made that aboriginal deaths in custody are proportionally less than non indigenous, but you have either ignored it or cant read. Speaking of intellectually dishonest and bad faith....pot =>kettle.
I find the whole Indigenous deaths in custody focus as a strange one for the reasons you outlined. Indigenous people are overrepresented in those statistics because they are are so disproportionately incarcerated when compared to non-indigenous Australians. In my opinion the focus should be on the social determinants that are leading to that over-representation, rather than the actual deaths themselves.
Not just them. But us also.
Fair point. The determinants are the same for all. I only commented in the context of discussions about the referendum, and the fact these determinants disproportionately affect Aboriginal people.
