Religion and Race - a new cornerstone for us?

[sideline_eye]

I hate this lovey dove garbage thats been brought into the game with their prayer group crap. All hugging and reciting chants to an invisible fairy or whatever it is…it's bad enough one of our prop forwards wears a hairband but this looks damned ridiculous.

Well said Stryker! You put it much more succinctly than I could!

 

[sideline_eye]

I don't have any issue with people being religious but what, if anything, does it have to do with football? Did they thank their god for the 60 point walloping by the Raiders? If a player prays and gets injured is that god's doing or is it only his/her doing if we win or the player doesn't get injured. I'd far rather have players who take personal responsibility for their actions rather than attribute everything to some manufactured non-entity. (everything I have written is in the context of my first sentence).

I have to agree that we are too quickly following the American model on this and too many other things but I don't want to turn this into a religious war, we already have enough of those in the world, so I'll make this my last word on this subject.

 

[Tigerdave]

I do not want to see the crap that you see in the NFL, praising this deity, praising that deity. If you want to believe, go for it, no need to advertise it as overtly as players in the NFL.

Unless it's His Noodliness The Flying Spaghetti Monster.

R'amen.

We've all been touched by his noodly goodness

R'amen indeed

 

[Tigerdave]

I do not want to see the crap that you see in the NFL, praising this deity, praising that deity. If you want to believe, go for it, no need to advertise it as overtly as players in the NFL.

The deity never gets blamed after a loss does it.

this and clearly if the players praises the deity for the win, the other side must not have prayed hard enough

From The Onion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk96kI3CNrE

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

I'd rather have church going, god fearing cleanskins, as opposed to pill popping, girlfriend glassing, canine genital licking, wife beating, gang raping louts.

But hey, that's just me.

I will never forget when Mike Tyson was being charged for rape he was wearing a huge Jesus Saves or similar badge - didn't do him much good.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

It is just Americanized crap that is seeping its way into our sports here in Oz. They have been doing that circle jerk love-in after games in the NFL for years.
Won't be long before the interchange bench will be replaced by a church pew and they can all sit on it singing Koombayah whilst swooshing down red wine and Sakata's post-match.
Not a fan of it but whatever floats their boat I guess, in this PC day and age it will be here to stay. Before you know it refs will be wearing robes and Jesus thongs. Would make a change for Cecchin who prefers thongs of the lace variety .

Quite possibly the funniest post I've ever read. :roll

I wanted to award a reputation point but still no idea how to.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

I am concerned about mixing religion with sport. Although I'm an atheist, I support the right of any person to follow a religion of their choice but public figures such as sorts men and women should understand that public displays of religiosity, in places like a football stadium can be offensive to others. It seems to be tolerated by spectators and TV viewers at the moment but just wait until a muslim player prostrates himself on the ground after a try; in my opinion the tolerance will come to an abrupt halt. Far better to nip this in the bud and request that players thank their deity away from the public gaze and I hope that the NRL acts before we start to see ugly incidents occurring.

Nothing worse than people who are "offended" by every little thing. I If players praying offends people then i'd suggest they go to bunnings and grab a bag of concrete.

I'm not at all religious, but if other people choose to be that is their choice and they shouldn't have to hide it. After all we live in a free country don't we?

But when people pay top dollar to be entertained they do not expect to have their intelligence insulted and attention diverted to a individual self indulgence. BTW what was the bag of cement for - concrete shoes for the happy clappies?

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

I hate this lovey dove garbage thats been brought into the game with their prayer group crap. All hugging and reciting chants to an invisible fairy or whatever it is…it's bad enough one of our prop forwards wears a hairband but this looks damned ridiculous.

I imagine for some folks here nothing could be as bad as RF's SOO tatoo - ha haha

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

I'm the biggest atheist you'll ever meet, but I don't see the harm in it so long as they're not trying to convert the kids in row A. Nothing wrong with personal expression of faith.

But for me it brings back bad memories Catholic brainwashing at only 4 years old and being burnt in hell - seriously would go close to ruining my game.

 

[hobbo]

I am concerned about mixing religion with sport. Although I'm an atheist, I support the right of any person to follow a religion of their choice but public figures such as sorts men and women should understand that public displays of religiosity, in places like a football stadium can be offensive to others. It seems to be tolerated by spectators and TV viewers at the moment but just wait until a muslim player prostrates himself on the ground after a try; in my opinion the tolerance will come to an abrupt halt. Far better to nip this in the bud and request that players thank their deity away from the public gaze and I hope that the NRL acts before we start to see ugly incidents occurring.

Agree mate ,
Each to their own when it comes to ones beliefs , but leave all the prayers and religious crap in the changing rooms IMO .
It's a game of footy FFS !

Next thing we'll be having seperate spectator areas for different religions .

 

[happy_tiger]

If it doesn't affect their on field performances why should it be something we are even commenting on

If you believe in God it is a full time gig and obviously football encompasses that as well

I just don't get the criticism , its their lives not yours let them lead it the way they want

No wonder almost every war revolves around religion

 

[barra]

I do not want to see the crap that you see in the NFL, praising this deity, praising that deity. If you want to believe, go for it, no need to advertise it as overtly as players in the NFL.

Dave I think that's more become part of American culture than ours mate. Not sure the Polynesian Christianity is headed down that path?

Anyway my reason for bringing this up was more about a changing club culture, and whether it might help us in recruitment etc.

Personally I don't have issue with the prayer groups etc that's there prerogative but as Ink's experience related, it might also create an uncomfortable situation if not handled well.

 

[LARDS]

I'm not religious like most of you guys but I think its a good thing.
It would help with team bonding.
In fact if I were the coach I would get my whole team involved , whether it be on the field or in the sheds, at training or game day. It would show that they are one team that respects each other and not separate groups of churchies and non-churchies.
The prayers can be non-deminational and not mention god too much. For the non-churchies it would be a quite moment of reflection and may aid their focus.

 

[Bones]

I am concerned about mixing religion with sport. Although I'm an atheist, I support the right of any person to follow a religion of their choice but public figures such as sorts men and women should understand that public displays of religiosity, in places like a football stadium can be offensive to others. It seems to be tolerated by spectators and TV viewers at the moment but just wait until a muslim player prostrates himself on the ground after a try; in my opinion the tolerance will come to an abrupt halt. Far better to nip this in the bud and request that players thank their deity away from the public gaze and I hope that the NRL acts before we start to see ugly incidents occurring.

Nothing worse than people who are "offended" by every little thing. I If players praying offends people then i'd suggest they go to bunnings and grab a bag of concrete.

I'm not at all religious, but if other people choose to be that is their choice and they shouldn't have to hide it. After all we live in a free country don't we?

But when people pay top dollar to be entertained they do not expect to have their intelligence insulted and attention diverted to a individual self indulgence. BTW what was the bag of cement for - concrete shoes for the happy clappies?

To harden them up a bit.

They don't force anyone to watch them pray, we are all free to ignore it if we wish.

As i said i'm not religious, but i find it ironic that people want their beliefs respected and at the same time wanting to oppress the beliefs of others.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

I am concerned about mixing religion with sport. Although I'm an atheist, I support the right of any person to follow a religion of their choice but public figures such as sorts men and women should understand that public displays of religiosity, in places like a football stadium can be offensive to others. It seems to be tolerated by spectators and TV viewers at the moment but just wait until a muslim player prostrates himself on the ground after a try; in my opinion the tolerance will come to an abrupt halt. Far better to nip this in the bud and request that players thank their deity away from the public gaze and I hope that the NRL acts before we start to see ugly incidents occurring.

Nothing worse than people who are "offended" by every little thing. I If players praying offends people then i'd suggest they go to bunnings and grab a bag of concrete.

I'm not at all religious, but if other people choose to be that is their choice and they shouldn't have to hide it. After all we live in a free country don't we?

But when people pay top dollar to be entertained they do not expect to have their intelligence insulted and attention diverted to a individual self indulgence. BTW what was the bag of cement for - concrete shoes for the happy clappies?

To harden them up a bit.

They don't force anyone to watch them pray, we are all free to ignore it if we wish.

As i said i'm not religious, but i find it ironic that people want their beliefs respected and at the same time wanting to oppress the beliefs of others.

If atheism is a belief then I don't expect people to respect it just because that is my thought, it only deserves respect if it stands up to proper scrutiny. Expressing unsupportable religion in a paid sporting venue is actually abusing the game and spectators whom did not come for that. I used to have nightmares as a child of burning forever in hell - then these silly buggers want to go to my paid entertainment and ruin it for me??? The game does not need it.

 

[avocadoontoast]

I'm not religious like most of you guys but I think its a good thing.
It would help with team bonding.
In fact if I were the coach I would get my whole team involved , whether it be on the field or in the sheds, at training or game day. It would show that they are one team that respects each other and not separate groups of churchies and non-churchies.
The prayers can be non-deminational and not mention god too much. For the non-churchies it would be a quite moment of reflection and may aid their focus.

This is ridiculous. So if you were coach you would force people who were not religious to join prayer groups for self reflection?

 

[LARDS]

I'm not religious like most of you guys but I think its a good thing.
It would help with team bonding.
In fact if I were the coach I would get my whole team involved , whether it be on the field or in the sheds, at training or game day. It would show that they are one team that respects each other and not separate groups of churchies and non-churchies.
The prayers can be non-deminational and not mention god too much. For the non-churchies it would be a quite moment of reflection and may aid their focus.

This is ridiculous. So if you were coach you would force people who were not religious to join prayer groups for self reflection?

Yes.
Its no big deal. Just 30 seconds out of the day. Its shows respect.
And no one would be forced.
Look I'm not religious but I find it strange that the only people on this forum who want force there own beliefs on others are atheists.

 

[Bones]

Nothing worse than people who are "offended" by every little thing. I If players praying offends people then i'd suggest they go to bunnings and grab a bag of concrete.

I'm not at all religious, but if other people choose to be that is their choice and they shouldn't have to hide it. After all we live in a free country don't we?

But when people pay top dollar to be entertained they do not expect to have their intelligence insulted and attention diverted to a individual self indulgence. BTW what was the bag of cement for - concrete shoes for the happy clappies?

To harden them up a bit.

They don't force anyone to watch them pray, we are all free to ignore it if we wish.

As i said i'm not religious, but i find it ironic that people want their beliefs respected and at the same time wanting to oppress the beliefs of others.

If atheism is a belief then I don't expect people to respect it just because that is my thought, it only deserves respect if it stands up to proper scrutiny. Expressing unsupportable religion in a paid sporting venue is actually abusing the game and spectators whom did not come for that. I used to have nightmares as a child of burning forever in hell - then these silly buggers want to go to my paid entertainment and ruin it for me??? The game does not need it.

Well like it or not i think it's hear to stay. I can't see anyone making them stop and i don't think they should. You cetainly wouldn't get me joining in but as long as it's an individual choice for team members im ok with that.

 

[Geo]

Don't know what the fuss is about..would much rather see them come together than virtually high fiving joking around laughing and hugging the opposition after they have just handed you a drubbing…yes Sharkies game I'm looking at you...

 

[Nelson]

Look I'm not religious but I find it strange that the only people on this forum who want force there own beliefs on others are atheists.

Haha that's a fair call, there's a bit of that going on.