Robbie Farah..Discussion Thread.....

[Telltails]

I'm hopeful our new CEO can conjure an agreement that pleases everyone. So that player and coach can work together in harmony and both see out their contracts.

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I think if it is true that McGregor is keen as, to have him at the Dragons - now the dust has settled - seems like this will be the best outcome for Farah. Sydney club, a coach that values him and has succeeded in getting his squad to play to the best of their ability, a good spine to work with, linking up with Benji with a point to prove…... or play reserve grade under a coach that clearly dosnt rate you ? Farahs loyalty is all that has made him dig his heels in, once it gels with him that the club by its stance with backing up Taylor is not reciprocating, cant see him knocking back an opportunity elsewhere.

 

[foreveratiger]

By both Farah and Taylor being here the blaming game will continue amongst fans. They both can't be here after this mess.

Farah will cop it and be blamed for the losses that happen next year and the bickering will continue, if he stays he will Cop it, the only way for him is to go and prove his critics wrong IMO.

Farah doesn't feel he should be the one leaving with a Contract that he wants to honour.
In a way I want Farah to go not cause I don't like him but so JT has no excuses and let next year be his defining year and get some questions answered.

Why would he want to walk? 900K a year at a club where accountability has long been out the window (if it were ever even here in the first place.)

True CB

Want? He wouldn't want to….but obviously his not wanted and the only way to prove his critics wrong if his able to? Is getting out of the joint.
He will be criticised either way next year, if he stays he will be labelled a sook and when we loose games it will also be his fault.

I know that he will get his Contract money either way, just another player we can add to the list of paying them to play for another Club :unamused:, it's how we roll.

I'm late in replying to this mate, sorry.

I can see it already, if he stays on a fails to perform, team JT will be saying he's bottled it, and team Farah will be saying that he's placed undue pressure on himself to perform in the wake of everything that's happened with the attempted ousting.

Excuses need to stop. If Farah does stay on next year for whatever reason and he's not living up to the paypacket, he has to go. If JT does not get results next year, he has to go.

That is exactly how I see it now aswell.
I think the damage is done, we need to start building the blocks from next year onwards and not a continuation of this tit for tat.
We need to try and "Unite, Commit and Achieve " well at least give it a real go of putting it in practice.

 

[happy_tiger]

Is it????
Do you think his holding onto a few Aces???
He tried to bring the Roosters gameplan to a team cultured to attack, he failed now is covering his hopeless cards by getting rid of the Captain and dismanteling the team…
Your pretty funny with your dull view on things.

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"the definition of insanity is doing something over and over again and expecting a different result"
Albert Einstein.
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You do realise that apart from a fluke year, a decade ago now, basing our team purely upon attack has been a total and utter failure, our conversion to finals appearances in that period is worse than unacceptable.

Breaking the cycle of mediocrity we have found ourselves in was never going to be immediately solved via a few pow-wows in the off season, no pump up talk or video session breakdown/ strategy pre game going to turn this rabble around… the softness, lack of fortitude, the culture of failure is deeply ingrained.

The whole Rugby League community, every man and his dog knows that we are perennial under achievers, the Wests Tigers have been far too poor, far too often. Taylor may not be the messiah, though i tell you what, the guy isnt afraid to try and change what obviously wasnt working... yet here you are calling for more of the same rubbish served up over the last decade that is proven to sub par.

BnW is right

When were we going to teach all these NYC players defensive structures and the like

As in seen is many NYC games they are like glorified touch footy games

I have no idea what 2016 will bring , but I will be surprised if we improve much , bottom 4 again

We simply don't have the cattle in important positions and I think the need for depth will be even greater with the rule changes

it scares the hell out of me what will happen to us in games in the 30-40 minute marks and the 60-80 minute marks

 

[foreveratiger]

Is it????
Do you think his holding onto a few Aces???
He tried to bring the Roosters gameplan to a team cultured to attack, he failed now is covering his hopeless cards by getting rid of the Captain and dismanteling the team…
Your pretty funny with your dull view on things.

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"the definition of insanity is doing something over and over again and expecting a different result"
Albert Einstein.
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You do realise that apart from a fluke year, a decade ago now, basing our team purely upon attack has been a total and utter failure, our conversion to finals appearances in that period is worse than unacceptable.

Breaking the cycle of mediocrity we have found ourselves in was never going to be immediately solved via a few pow-wows in the off season, no pump up talk or video session breakdown/ strategy pre game going to turn this rabble around… the softness, lack of fortitude, the culture of failure is deeply ingrained.

The whole Rugby League community, every man and his dog knows that we are perennial under achievers, the Wests Tigers have been far too poor, far too often. Taylor may not be the messiah, though i tell you what, the guy isnt afraid to try and change what obviously wasnt working... yet here you are calling for more of the same rubbish served up over the last decade that is proven to sub par.

BnW is right

When were we going to teach all these NYC players defensive structures and the like

As in seen is many NYC games they are like glorified touch footy games

I have no idea what 2016 will bring , but I will be surprised if we improve much , bottom 4 again

We simply don't have the cattle in important positions and I think the need for depth will be even greater with the rule changes

it scares the hell out of me what will happen to us in games in the 30-40 minute marks and the 60-80 minute marks

Put the TV in sleep mode to turn off on the 60 minute mark, for your Sanity at the very least :laughing:

 

[Abraham]

142 pages and counting …

Can someone msg Robbie and let him know that he is now officially more popular than Lote.

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[Newtown]

142 pages and counting …

Can someone msg Robbie and let him know that he is now officially more popular than Lote.

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When someone msg's Robbie could they also please ask him what he intends to do for the rest of his football career.

 

[Tigermama]

The problem that I have with Taylor is that he was terrible this year and I think we underachieved. He needs to change that around.

I honestly don't even think our squad is that bad. Richards was the weak link in the backline along with depth and hopefully we will fix those areas next year.

I think our forwards may need some help next year as Galloway is gone but basically I think our team is okay. JT has enough to work with if he tries and plays positive footy.

When it comes to who applied for what I don't care. I just expect the coach to pick the right team, put a decent game plan together and to act with some class. The rest is up to the players.

Everyone talks up the talent of these kids, so if they're allowed to play their natural games, what's the problem?

This is the problem though with Taylor. He honestly appeared to be coming up with game plans that were designed for unskillful, defence orientated players.

I hope that Taylor realizes that he stuffed up and has the team playing to our strengths. I think players like Tedesco, Moses, Brooks, Nofo, Simona along with Taupau, Woods, Ava and maybe even Cherrington have the ability to play to a pretty high standard.

Few have stopped to consider that Taylor used 2015 as a development year for the team, especially the first half and especially for the "kids" like Moses… They needed to learn a few "lessons"before they were allowed to play their natural games...2016 will see a very different "structure" watch....

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Aha… I see things much more clearly now. :sunglasses:

 

[happy_tiger]

By both Farah and Taylor being here the blaming game will continue amongst fans. They both can't be here after this mess.

Farah will cop it and be blamed for the losses that happen next year and the bickering will continue, if he stays he will Cop it, the only way for him is to go and prove his critics wrong IMO.

Farah doesn't feel he should be the one leaving with a Contract that he wants to honour.
In a way I want Farah to go not cause I don't like him but so JT has no excuses and let next year be his defining year and get some questions answered.

Why would he want to walk? 900K a year at a club where accountability has long been out the window (if it were ever even here in the first place.)

True CB

Want? He wouldn't want to….but obviously his not wanted and the only way to prove his critics wrong if his able to? Is getting out of the joint.
He will be criticised either way next year, if he stays he will be labelled a sook and when we loose games it will also be his fault.

I know that he will get his Contract money either way, just another player we can add to the list of paying them to play for another Club :unamused:, it's how we roll.

I'm late in replying to this mate, sorry.

I can see it already, if he stays on a fails to perform, team JT will be saying he's bottled it, and team Farah will be saying that he's placed undue pressure on himself to perform in the wake of everything that's happened with the attempted ousting.

Excuses need to stop. If Farah does stay on next year for whatever reason and he's not living up to the paypacket, he has to go. If JT does not get results next year, he has to go.

The biggest problem will be that Robbie will play footy to suit his needs going forward

That might not be the best thing for the WT's going forward

 

[ricksen]

Few have stopped to consider that Taylor used 2015 as a development year for the team, especially the first half and especially for the "kids" like Moses… They needed to learn a few "lessons"before they were allowed to play their natural games...2016 will see a very different "structure" watch....

This is a fair point, and all signs were that JT and the club basically wrote off 2015 (despite lying to fans about competing for the top 8).

That said…
JT himself said that we'd see the "real" WT toward the back end of the season, and that our season should be judged on the second half rather than the first half.
We were awful for this period bar a couple of games, and our defence was actually worse than it was in the first half.

JT has definitely talked a good game, and I'm 100% on board with his plans re: sorting the defence out. I just worry that he's not getting his message across to his troops, and if he is, it's the wrong message.

 

[happy_tiger]

Few have stopped to consider that Taylor used 2015 as a development year for the team, especially the first half and especially for the "kids" like Moses… They needed to learn a few "lessons"before they were allowed to play their natural games...2016 will see a very different "structure" watch....

This is a fair point, and all signs were that JT and the club basically wrote off 2015 (despite lying to fans about competing for the top 8).

That said…
JT himself said that we'd see the "real" WT toward the back end of the season, and that our season should be judged on the second half rather than the first half.
We were awful for this period bar a couple of games, and our defence was actually worse than it was in the first half.

JT has definitely talked a good game, and I'm 100% on board with his plans re: sorting the defence out. I just worry that he's not getting his message across to his troops, and if he is, it's the wrong message.

Or possibly he tried to implement a defensive strategy he thought they'd be able to work out and found out they weren't ready yet

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Well he's nailed his nuts to the wall now. Without Farah next year he needs results. If he doesn't get them he will be out the door faster than you can say "Centrelink."

 

[happy_tiger]

Well he's nailed his nuts to the wall now. Without Farah next year he needs results. If he doesn't get them he will be out the door faster than you can say "Centrelink."

Reckon if we make Top 10 and our defence can continue to improve Taylor will get another season

Another 14th-16th and that might be a different story if the squad stays fit

Our new board realizes they aren't there to win a popularity contest with the fans

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I still believe he'll be given the full 3 yrs unless we're only 1 or 2 out of our first 10 or something. I know it's old in the tooth but he hasn't even had the luxury to spend money on the open market yet.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

I still believe he'll be given the full 3 yrs unless we're only 1 or 2 out of our first 10 or something. I know it's old in the tooth but he hasn't even had the luxury to spend money on the open market yet.

Didn't stop them from bouncing Potter.

 

[the_third]

I still believe he'll be given the full 3 yrs unless we're only 1 or 2 out of our first 10 or something. I know it's old in the tooth but he hasn't even had the luxury to spend money on the open market yet.

He hasn't earnt that either. I'd be reluctant to give him a chequebook if he can't produce a good game plan

 

[Icon]

been a member for many years and i come on here to read the scandals and have a laugh (no offence, it's like reading women's weekly, for men).

i just go to matches and love it, lose or win, it's all part of life, for me 15 years ago it was about taking the kids to the games, luckily Benji, Robbie, Hodgo, and bunch of others came along and we had a miracle win.
So, my point is that we need to treat people better. it's only me and wife now and we go to all the games but this whole drama is starting to destroy my love for the game and the tigers.

DO THE RIGHT THINGS WESTS TIGERS…if we are in a building stage (again) well let Robbie stay next year, bring through the young men, give him the farewell he deserves, and give the club good karma.

This post was brought about by a message i got from the people who do the payments for the membership, apparently my membership re-news if i don't respond...hahaha.

for the first time in my life, i'm not sure i want to invest my time in something that holds very little ethics and morels .

hope it works out guys.

 

[happy_tiger]

I still believe he'll be given the full 3 yrs unless we're only 1 or 2 out of our first 10 or something. I know it's old in the tooth but he hasn't even had the luxury to spend money on the open market yet.

Didn't stop them from bouncing Potter.

You know what CB , if we'd bounced Mayer first I reckon Potter would still be here

 

[NT_Tiger]

Pity that!

 

[goldcoast_tiger]

I love the ''we need to stop buying cheap coaches" as if the ones that would cost a lot and have great reputations would ever consider coming here with our track record of treating coaches the last couple of seasons.[/quote

I agree with you on that up to a point
But most people have a price Or an ego that could possibly sway them.
I'm not saying it would be cheap .
No ones going to fall on our doorstep, so we need to be headhunting the top coaches , and that will take money to overcome any negativity about this club
That's why I said that Harrys assistance in getting one would be needed .

With the talk of Harry wanting to own the WTs, what good will that really do for the club in the short term.
He can't pay TPAs to players if he owned the club.
And as far as I can see , he doesn't have mates like Politis etc. who are likely to be tipping money in for TPAs either.
I may be wrong about that, but I've never heard of anyone supplying TPAs to our players, it just doesn't seem to be very common here.
We desperately need a quality Coach , as the longer we go as the laughing stock of the NRL.
The harder it will be to get or hold good players

As we now have to pay big overs to attract good players anyway, . We would be better off paying overs for a Coach who would himself, attract players that would be prepared to come here without getting overs.
I'm not saying it's simple, or cheap.
But what we are doing now isn't working, and doesn't look like it will anytime soon.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

You just can't sack coach after coach and expect the elite on will coming knocking. Sooner or later coaches have to be given leeway to fail, and so far JT has and he has failed. Hypothetically, sacking him next season. Which many have called for would give us our 3rd coach in 3 yrs. And considering there's no one available it would leave us with another noob. And if he fails, what then? Do we go for 4 in 4 yrs? I don't think any elite coach would come here no matter what you paid him.