Robbie Farah..Discussion Thread.....

[bobo125]

No worries bobo. Hi ho silver!

Craig bellamy

MELBOURNE Storm coach Craig Bellamy says Robbie Farah deserves more respect from the Wests Tigers.

“It’s a sad situation when you see how long he’s played for that club and he’s captained it for years and played in a premiership-winning side and then all of sudden it ends,” said Bellamy, who coached Farah in the NSW State of Origin team.
“You’d like to see it done in a lot more respectful way than just to say if you stay you’re going to be playing reserve grade.

“That doesn’t sit well with me.”
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so when you have the coach of the 3 of the most successful players - potential immortals - making a public statement like this - how do you expect your young team to feel mate …...
oh sorry - im connected so i must know something ....

 

[NT_Tiger]

Hi ho silver awayyyyyy!
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Who was that masked man?

 

[bobo125]

Hi ho silver awayyyyyy!

Who was that masked man?

why, nothing to positive to add…. ?
some of the games most respected figures coming out publicly ..1 by 1 ... to state what a poor decision this is.... and let me guess - with all your wisdom (from your posts ive read) you are now suddenly silent. how can that be maaan hooooow. :blah :blah :blah

 

[marzie]

Who here would support Farah captain coach? I think Jason Taylor has crossed that line with how disrespectful he has been and he can't go back now

 

[bobo125]

Who here would support Farah captain coach? I think Jason Taylor has crossed that line with how disrespectful he has been and he can't go back now

mate, i dont think farah could be both.

i "think" you need a coach that inspires your young players.
puts confidence back into them and encourages them to build on their strengths as well as learn and develop their skills in relation to the team.
you need a coach who can lead and teach them. someone they can look up to and believe in who also beleives in them.
thats where it starts and with that kind of confidence shown by both parties - thats where it gains traction….. !

 

[TrueTiger]

No worries bobo. Hi ho silver!

Craig bellamy

MELBOURNE Storm coach Craig Bellamy says Robbie Farah deserves more respect from the Wests Tigers.

“It’s a sad situation when you see how long he’s played for that club and he’s captained it for years and played in a premiership-winning side and then all of sudden it ends,” said Bellamy, who coached Farah in the NSW State of Origin team.
“You’d like to see it done in a lot more respectful way than just to say if you stay you’re going to be playing reserve grade.

“That doesn’t sit well with me.”
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so when you have the coach of the 3 of the most successful players - potential immortals - making a public statement like this - how do you expect your young team to feel mate …...
oh sorry - im connected so i must know something ....

Hey bobo,the three potential immortals dont seem to want to get rid of every coach they have had…hang on they have only had the one......bar Meninga at origin time...

 

[NT_Tiger]

….....MELBOURNE Storm coach Craig Bellamy says............

Ok I can understand and agree with many of Bellamy's comments. It is a sad situation to have things end the way they have. It doesn't sit we'll with me either the way this has played out in the press. But from what I've read, the club did its utmost to keep this out of the media precisely so that Farah would be shown the respect he deserves. I disagree with Bellamy from that perspective.
It's nice of Bellamy to offer his sympathy. Maybe he'll offer him a job.

 

[NT_Tiger]

…............nothing to positive to add.... ?

Add to what? Respond to not one, but three emoticons? Sorry, it was a bit obscure.

 

[TrueTiger]

FOXSPORT has reported that the split between Farah and the WTs has all the hallmarks of a bitter PR disaster that could cost Jason Taylor his job…....

 

[Spartan117]

Disaster Certainly

JT Loos Job - Hope Not

 

[NT_Tiger]

Have you got a link TT?

 

[TrueTiger]

Have you got a link TT?

Sorry NT,Fox sent me an email with that heading ….GEO may read this and find it for us..I cant down load it from where Iam at the moment..cheers...

 

[Knuckles]

No worries bobo. Hi ho silver!

Craig bellamy

MELBOURNE Storm coach Craig Bellamy says Robbie Farah deserves more respect from the Wests Tigers.

“It’s a sad situation when you see how long he’s played for that club and he’s captained it for years and played in a premiership-winning side and then all of sudden it ends,” said Bellamy, who coached Farah in the NSW State of Origin team.
“You’d like to see it done in a lot more respectful way than just to say if you stay you’re going to be playing reserve grade.

“That doesn’t sit well with me.”
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so when you have the coach of the 3 of the most successful players - potential immortals - making a public statement like this - how do you expect your young team to feel mate …...
oh sorry - im connected so i must know something ....

Hard to disagree with Craig Bellamy …..... everyone deserves to be treated with respect .... Threatening reserve grade to an elite player doesn't achieve that. The board/acting CEO should pull Taylor into line over comments like that.

 

[rex2ce]

NT Tiger wrote:
I acknowledge and agree with that 'pokies'. I should have been more clear in my initial sentence. It is my assumption that WT will have to account for most of the contract cost unless Superleague jumps in.
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Thanks for clarifying NT Tiger.

Super league is definitely looking likely to be the best outcome from the Clubs standpoint re. cap relief.
Though I presume Farah feels differently especially with Daley's comments yesterday regarding origin (wont be considered if playing in England).
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Why wouldn't he be considered if playing in England, Langer was

 

[Goose]

I think there is a logic behind the decision. Do I agree with the decision, not really, but I understand it.

What I cant cop is the way it has been handled, this has been D grade.

You can move someone on respectfully and in a dignified manner. We failed to do both.

If we come out and say something like, it is so hard we have to do this, but errors were made in out handling of the salary cap, and it pains us deeply that the only way out is to cut a champion of the club which is horrible but the lesser of too evils. Try and paint him as a hero for agreeing to reluctantly move on for the good of others and the club will be eternally grateful. I reckon fans would cop that, they'd be upset but cop it. They did something similar with Liam fulton.

They didnt do that, they hung him out to dry, and are half selling the story that Robbie wasnt playing to the game plan (whether true or not), it is just twisting the dagger.

 

[Tiger_In_The_Gong]

I have heard some strong information, from a very close source, However I won't give away the exact specifics, as it narrows it down too fine.

However what I can tell you:
-Farah has blaintly disregarding the coaches instructions in certain games.
-instructions were sent out in a game, and he relayed to the trainer '[automatically edited] off im not doing that'.
- he was then asked to leave the field by the coach, which he declined.
- one of those games was the penrith game, where Lovett got slaughtered in the centres. And was related to the defensive structure of the team. The coach did attempt to fix the problem, however the captain didn't comply.

I never once heard JT bring this up publicly, he has kept everything behind closed doors.

But as you can see if you have watched Paul Kent or even Fatty last night. They have heard Similiar things.

It's not all about money, it's about the team, and if you have a player, who won't listen to you, and is undermining you, what would you do?

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I guess this is going to depend on who is telling the story and where their allegiances at the club are.

What i have been told is not nearly as critical of Farah however like yours is from a reliable source and both versions are dancing around the same kind of circumstances.

The whole thing is fall out between Farah and coach.

 

[Chainlink]

so while i was on the footy show last night (and apparently still on this forum ) there were some very good insights laid bare.
there was a suggestion that robbie had actually been thinking 2016 could be his last at the club before going OS.
There was also actually a suggestion that players were so much behind their captain that a protest was also considered.
There was also a suggestion that its not just Beau (oops me ) and robbie that have no faith in the coach but a lot of the younger players also.
so my questions today are :
- now that the moral of your younger players has been properly shook by the coach who had lost their respect approx week 7 into this season - how do you get them to perform.
- now that the coach has shown he does not care who you are within the group, the organsation and or the game, how do you get your young guns to fire up for him.
- everything your coach has said hes trying to achieve this year has failed spectacularly
They are on the verge of the wooden spoon
when they have been allowed to play freely - they ahve played well.
- How do you tell your young guns this is a fluke and the coach knows whats going on
- when past greats, family, other team mates, coaching staff and basically anyone who knows JT is privately telling the young cubs their is no future with JT as their coach - how do you address this as a club.
- when someone like Tedesco flipped to stay at tigers because of robbie is watching this unfold, what do you seriously think is going through his mind. (did anyone see his utter disdain for JT in the sheds during half time - he brushed him so obviously - that should have sent alarm bells ringing)
- whether you like him personally or not, robbie has a lot of support from the greater NRL community. all of whom are commenting on what a "baffling" decision this is.

some people want to talk about - hes not worth 900K this late in his career.
But if he goes, the club still pays a large percentage of that.
some people want to forget the reason hes on that amount is because of the unders he took earlier to provide relief for their cap.

Im not a super fan of Robbie personally, but im a fan of showing absolute respect towards your team as a principle component of building a successful environment where everyones wants to come. everyone wants to perform, everyone wants to get better and everyone trusts and supports their coach.
currently you have none of this solely because of the actions of one person. the coach.

i applaud Laurie Daely for publicly stating what he has.
whether you like daely or not - he sits pretty high on the NRL totem pole when it comes to how seriously his opinion is taken and considered.

Robbie to play in reserve grade next year will actually be a very very good move for this club !

You really think this whole thing is the sole decision of the coach??? Please! I have absolutely no doubt whatsoever that this decision is far more about money and salary caps than it is about personalities. The wests tigers made this decision, not Jason Taylor.

If Robbie isn't on some stupidly back ended deal and was on half what we might be paying him, this doesn't happen. I honestly think we are in that much trouble with the cap, that saving even a few hundred thousand is a necessity.

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[Tiger_In_The_Gong]

P.S. The salary cap issue is the line the club is using to defuse this.

 

[westTAHger]

Who here would support Farah captain coach? I think Jason Taylor has crossed that line with how disrespectful he has been and he can't go back now

mate, i dont think farah could be both.

i "think" you need a coach that inspires your young players.
puts confidence back into them and encourages them to build on their strengths as well as learn and develop their skills in relation to the team.
you need a coach who can lead and teach them. someone they can look up to and believe in who also beleives in them.
thats where it starts and with that kind of confidence shown by both parties - thats where it gains traction….. !

In all seriousness, I am genuinely curious . Put aside the what's going on with the young players for a moment.
If he was captain coach, would it ease the salary cap issue ?

 

[bobo125]

You really think this whole thing is the sole decision of the coach??? Please! I have absolutely no doubt whatsoever that this decision is far more about money and salary caps than it is about personalities. The wests tigers made this decision, not Jason Taylor.

If Robbie isn't on some stupidly back ended deal and was on half what we might be paying him, this doesn't happen. I honestly think we are in that much trouble with the cap, that saving even a few hundred thousand is a necessity.

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Shakey shakey shakey…
All of the communication thus far is that Robbie does not fit into the coaches plans.
The board make decisions on the roster when and only when the coach brings it to them.

if this was only about salary cap pressure - then the math doe not add up at all.
let him go / pay a minimum of 70% of his 950K ?

regardless of who the player is, the back ended deal was put into place as he took unders during earlier years. Those unders were taken in part to keep the cap in order at that time.

if it were solely about money - how could they for 1 second justify their actions knowing they will pay a player a very large amt of their cap - whilst hes either not at the club or playing reserves.........