Robbie Farah..Discussion Thread.....

@Gary Bakerloo said:
@cktiger said:
Why doesn't someone have the guts to actually stand up, be accountable for the decision and give the real reason instead of hiding behind the salary cap.

I thought our Chair did?

_Asked if Farah didn't fit the culture the club was trying to foster, Go said: "Taking a big-picture view of the team and looking at where the opportunities are to increase the unity, spirit of the team and the culture, a decision has been made about what needs to happen next.\
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"As a result, we've informed Robbie we are giving him permission to speak to other people. We're not kicking him out, we've basically said 'based on what we want to achieve next year, we're happy for you to explore other options'. You'd have to say in the scheme of the big picture and what we need to build for the future, **there's a sentiment that no, he doesn't."**_

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/wests-tigers/wests-tigers-chairwoman-marina-go-opens-up-on-why-robbie-farah-had-to-go-20150828-gja5ur.html

It's a long sentence, but in a nut shell, the board has made the decision that he doesn't fit the culture the club is trying to build.

And hasn't that worked out well, !!!!
Good on you Marina , you'll look back on your decision as some of your most insightful work :laughing:
 
…...and the plot thickens

http://www.triplem.com.au/sydney/sport/nrl/news/2015/9/reports-wests-tigers-sponsors-angry-over-robbie-farah-treatment/
 
@Chris said:
…...and the plot thickens

http://www.triplem.com.au/sydney/sport/nrl/news/2015/9/reports-wests-tigers-sponsors-angry-over-robbie-farah-treatment/

The plot thickens with yesterday's news? The plot was already thick enough.
 
@Chris said:
…...and the plot thickens

http://www.triplem.com.au/sydney/sport/nrl/news/2015/9/reports-wests-tigers-sponsors-angry-over-robbie-farah-treatment/

Good quote from the segment, "Sponsors should have no influence on the club."
 
What an absolute shambles. Does WT even have a media department? The way they've handled this is absolutely atrocious. It seems we had no strategy in place to manage this story, which is just criminal given the people involved.

I'm sure some (if not all) of these stories are being blown well out of proportion, but then again it is WT we're talking about….
e.g. was it really a 'crisis meeting' demanded by 'angry sponsors', or something planned or even initiated by WT to explain the situation amongst the sea of misinformation out there?
And the Benji 'revelation' about the contract restructuring (not a paycut - he's still getting the money) doesn't really shock me - this stuff happens around NRL contracts fairly regularly.
 
I remember when people were saying the club shouldn't bow to sponsors when they threatened to pull out if we signed Mason. This just shows our standing in the game. Sponsors would threaten the elite clubs with boycotts.
 
I don't often write on this forum, but have supported Tigers since 1968\. In that time the only hooker that I have seen better than Farah is Benny Elias. Having just read that he took a $200,000 cut 2 years in a row to help the club out, with the promise that he would get it back in his next contract, and then the club tries to get rid of him and not pay him what he is legally owed, is staggering, and morally wrong. If I was Farah I wouldn't go anywhere. I can't imagine we could afford to sack another coach, but Taylor has taken the club backwards. The game against Nth Qld earlier this year was the most boring game I have ever seen the Tigers play. One of the ruck (repeat 5 times), hoist a bomb up regardless of where you are on the field, repeat all game even when a point hasn't been scored against a depleted team. All year I have watched our forwards get smashed as they play 1 off the ruck, other teams know they won't pass or spread it wide and hit them with 3/4 players every tackle. Why not pass it to Mitchell or Brooks who off load it to a forward, at least the defence will actually have to guess a little bit?
I suspect that the way the Tigers played against NZ on the weekend was because Farah and co disregarded Taylors game plan. We have 3 exciting youngsters in pivotal positions and they appear to have been shackled all year. Why on earth wouldn't you play to their strengths? If Sheens was still the coach, or even Potter, would we be at the bottom of the competition (and with virtually no major injuries all year) or would we have played an exciting brand of football all year (as in 2005)? May of lost a few, but at least we would of scored points and probably had better crowds.
Both Sheens and Potter were both sacked after better performances than Taylor, and both experienced horrendous injury runs. Brooks looked better in his few games under Potter last year than under Taylor this year, he seems to have lost all confidence.
Who would come to the Tigers after all the broken contracts and promises over the past 3/4 years? Local juniors/clubmen like Heighington, Gibbs, Ryan, Marshall, Koroibete, Farah shown the door whilst we waste money bringing in fringe players and pay wages of our players at other clubs. The club is a shambles, recruitment and retention has been a shambles, crowds are abysmal, now we are reading that sponsors are unhappy! If Farah is forced out, that brings Cherrington into the team, so the spine would be Tedesco, Brooks, Moses and Cherrington, a combined total of what, 70/80 games between them? I agree with the fans saying it should be Taylor going, not Farah. Bring in Toovey! Or even Sheens!
 
@Balmain Boy said:
@Chris said:
…...and the plot thickens

http://www.triplem.com.au/sydney/sport/nrl/news/2015/9/reports-wests-tigers-sponsors-angry-over-robbie-farah-treatment/

The plot thickens with yesterday's news? The plot was already thick enough.

My apologies, I live in the US and I just saw it.
 
@zowieben said:
Having just read that he took a $200,000 cut 2 years in a row to help the club out, with the promise that he would get it back in his next contract, and then the club tries to get rid of him and not pay him what he is legally owed, is staggering, and morally wrong.

See, now I think this is exactly what gets me with this whole situation. At NO time has the club said Robbie Farah will not be earning $950K per year over the next two years. What they have said is they don't want him at the club and are prepared to contribute toward him earning this money some place else. That is a massive enticement for someone else to grab a bargain yet there is no queue.

As I have posted previously, I would love for him to play out his career here for less money but what right does anyone else have to ask him to do that? None. He has well and truly earned his cash. He has two choices IMO:

1) Earn it here and be out of favour
2) Earn it elsewhere and keep playing regular first grade

I don't think the club meant for it to play out like this, they wanted it done behind closed doors and finalised before it went public. Someone outside the club has leaked it to the press and here we are.
 
@zowieben said:
I don't often write on this forum, but have supported Tigers since 1968\. In that time the only hooker that I have seen better than Farah is Benny Elias. Having just read that he took a $200,000 cut 2 years in a row to help the club out, with the promise that he would get it back in his next contract, and then the club tries to get rid of him and not pay him what he is legally owed, is staggering, and morally wrong. If I was Farah I wouldn't go anywhere. I can't imagine we could afford to sack another coach, but Taylor has taken the club backwards. The game against Nth Qld earlier this year was the most boring game I have ever seen the Tigers play. One of the ruck (repeat 5 times), hoist a bomb up regardless of where you are on the field, repeat all game even when a point hasn't been scored against a depleted team. All year I have watched our forwards get smashed as they play 1 off the ruck, other teams know they won't pass or spread it wide and hit them with 3/4 players every tackle. Why not pass it to Mitchell or Brooks who off load it to a forward, at least the defence will actually have to guess a little bit?
I suspect that the way the Tigers played against NZ on the weekend was because Farah and co disregarded Taylors game plan. We have 3 exciting youngsters in pivotal positions and they appear to have been shackled all year. Why on earth wouldn't you play to their strengths? If Sheens was still the coach, or even Potter, would we be at the bottom of the competition (and with virtually no major injuries all year) or would we have played an exciting brand of football all year (as in 2005)? May of lost a few, but at least we would of scored points and probably had better crowds.
Both Sheens and Potter were both sacked after better performances than Taylor, and both experienced horrendous injury runs. Brooks looked better in his few games under Potter last year than under Taylor this year, he seems to have lost all confidence.
Who would come to the Tigers after all the broken contracts and promises over the past 3/4 years? Local juniors/clubmen like Heighington, Gibbs, Ryan, Marshall, Koroibete, Farah shown the door whilst we waste money bringing in fringe players and pay wages of our players at other clubs. The club is a shambles, recruitment and retention has been a shambles, crowds are abysmal, now we are reading that sponsors are unhappy! If Farah is forced out, that brings Cherrington into the team, so the spine would be Tedesco, Brooks, Moses and Cherrington, a combined total of what, 70/80 games between them? I agree with the fans saying it should be Taylor going, not Farah. Bring in Toovey! Or even Sheens!

I agree with most of what you've said Zowieben but in fairness, they haven't said that they won't pay him, I think they realise that there's no way that they'd get away with that.
But it's a weird way to repay someone who has already done more than enough for the club financially , in allowing them the use of 400,000 dollars that he could have invested and made a quite a bit with.
And he did it without letting any one know , when if he'd made it public years ago he would have got a lot of credit for doing it
 
If this whole saga puts sponsorship dollars at risk then it needs to be resolved on the double. If the sponsors want Farah to stay then he should stay. Taylor will just have to find a way to work with him next year. If he can't then he'll have to resign.
 
This public-relations shambles has probably started in good faith, with desire on the part of the club to go in a different direction.
BUT to allow things to escalate as it has, to the 100% negative image it portrays of what should be "a professional sporting team and club," to the unfair detriment of players, club management, sponsors and even us, as fans - well, it is just mind blowing and beyond the realm of any reasonable person.
There needs to be resolution, if not for any reason than the survival of our club.
I am fearful of what happens next, not because it can't be resolved, but rather because the people entrusted with fixing this are the very same people who got us to where we are now!
 
@tiger_one said:
This public-relations shambles has probably started in good faith, with desire on the part of the club to go in a different direction.
BUT to allow things to escalate as it has, to the 100% negative image it portrays of what should be "a professional sporting team and club," to the unfair detriment of players, club management, sponsors and even us, as fans - well, it is just mind blowing and beyond the realm of any reasonable person.
There needs to be resolution, if not for any reason than the survival of our club.
I am fearful of what happens next, not because it can't be resolved, but rather because the people entrusted with fixing this are the very same people who got us to where we are now!

I know of 4 mates of mine that have written to the Club that they will not be renewing there Memberships and basically told the Club to shove there Season tickets you know where, the thing is its 4 + there Family and kids.

The Club is about to feel the full force of there Amateurish level of how you run a Club.

Like any sporting organisations, fans and paid Members vote with there feet and back pocket, in time all this will be answered.
 
@Tigersmurf said:
I don't think the club meant for it to play out like this, they wanted it done behind closed doors and finalised before it went public. Someone outside the club has leaked it to the press and here we are.

This whole thing has never been about money or salary cap or tigers trying not to pay Robbie.
The club 100% did not expect it to play out like this.
This has happened because someone dosnt want him at the club - for reasons that are listed on nearly every page here.
That person took a massive ego gamble with Robbie and the whole threat to play reserves if you dont walk away quietly.
well it backfired massively and yes now there is a club that the wider community - sport, blue chip, fans, sponsors and everyone else is watching trip over itself and bumble its way through this.
day afetr day, anyone with any type of business acumen or sporting knowledge is watching in disbelief at how poorly this is being managed.
 
Hugely impressed with Benji's defence of his old mate Robbie on NRL360\. Had cooled a lot on the Benj in recent times but he really stood up when it mattered
 
@gallagher said:
@Tigermama said:
@gallagher said:
@Tigermama said:
Johnathon Thurston, is the same when his team losses. Don't see Green trying to get rid of him because of it… 😕

Thurston plays well every week. Not once every three years.

No kidding :unamused:

So you see the stupidity of your comparison.

Lol, coming from you, that's a bit rich. :laughing:
Different type of players, but both winners in my book.
Both have an extremely competitive streak and hate loosing. They don't handle it well. It's in their makeup.
You obviously don't agree. That's cool. I'm not going to belittle your opinion. :sunglasses:
 
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