Robbie Farah..Discussion Thread.....

Well management and JT are in a pickle here, we all know that, but some of you don't understand why they can't/won't tell their side of the story in any detail.

If you're trying to sell something, you don't publicly proclaim all the faults of that product from the offset. As a sales person, you would talk up the positive traits and skimp over the negatives without actually lying about anything though.

If JT/board come out and say for example that Robbie is super high maintenance, argues consistently with all his coaches, abuses his team mates and creates disharmony within the club it's hardly going to create a wealth of possible buyers calling up to take him off our hands. No-one would go near him and we'd be stuck with him regardless. If we say nothing about all this publicly then a buyer may surface and it's then up to them to determine the fit Robbie would have within their club and structure.

So Robbie's manager takes advantage of this and paints the club as the super bad guys, and a lot of gullible fans and journos eat it up without thinking twice. It may be true, it may be crap or most likely somewhere in between but Robbie dictates the narrative, not the club, so he paints himself as the loyal hero who's been wronged and then waits for public pressure and that of the sponsors to force the change that suits him.
 
@Balmain Boy said:
Well management and JT are in a pickle here, we all know that, but some of you don't understand why they can't/won't tell their side of the story in any detail.

If you're trying to sell something, you don't publicly proclaim all the faults of that product from the offset. As a sales person, you would talk up the positive traits and skimp over the negatives without actually lying about anything though.

If JT/board come out and say for example that Robbie is super high maintenance, argues consistently with all his coaches, abuses his team mates and creates disharmony within the club it's hardly going to create a wealth of possible buyers calling up to take him off our hands. No-one would go near him and we'd be stuck with him regardless. If we say nothing about all this publicly then a buyer may surface and it's then up to them to determine the fit Robbie would have within their club and structure.

So Robbie's manager takes advantage of this and paints the club as the super bad guys, and a lot of gullible fans and journos eat it up without thinking twice. It may be true, it may be crap or most likely somewhere in between but Robbie dictates the narrative, not the club, so he paints himself as the loyal hero who's been wronged and then waits for public pressure and that of the sponsors to force the change that suits him.

Well said, good post BB
 
@bobo125 said:
just a hunch but is "gallager" Lana taylor ? ? ?

Yeah. I joined the forum in 2009 in the hope my husband
( i assume Lana is his wife) would one day become the tigers coach.
On the other hand you joined the day the news struck. I'll say it again, your way to obvious in your trolling.
 
@Balmain Boy said:
Well management and JT are in a pickle here, we all know that, but some of you don't understand why they can't/won't tell their side of the story in any detail.

If you're trying to sell something, you don't publicly proclaim all the faults of that product from the offset. As a sales person, you would talk up the positive traits and skimp over the negatives without actually lying about anything though.

If JT/board come out and say for example that Robbie is super high maintenance, argues consistently with all his coaches, abuses his team mates and creates disharmony within the club it's hardly going to create a wealth of possible buyers calling up to take him off our hands. No-one would go near him and we'd be stuck with him regardless. If we say nothing about all this publicly then a buyer may surface and it's then up to them to determine the fit Robbie would have within their club and structure.

So Robbie's manager takes advantage of this and paints the club as the super bad guys, and a lot of gullible fans and journos eat it up without thinking twice. It may be true, it may be crap or most likely somewhere in between but Robbie dictates the narrative, not the club, so he paints himself as the loyal hero who's been wronged and then waits for public pressure and that of the sponsors to force the change that suits him.

Great post
 
@Balmain Boy said:
Well management and JT are in a pickle here, we all know that, but some of you don't understand why they can't/won't tell their side of the story in any detail.

If you're trying to sell something, you don't publicly proclaim all the faults of that product from the offset. As a sales person, you would talk up the positive traits and skimp over the negatives without actually lying about anything though.

If JT/board come out and say for example that Robbie is super high maintenance, argues consistently with all his coaches, abuses his team mates and creates disharmony within the club it's hardly going to create a wealth of possible buyers calling up to take him off our hands. No-one would go near him and we'd be stuck with him regardless. If we say nothing about all this publicly then a buyer may surface and it's then up to them to determine the fit Robbie would have within their club and structure.

So Robbie's manager takes advantage of this and paints the club as the super bad guys, and a lot of gullible fans and journos eat it up without thinking twice. It may be true, it may be crap or most likely somewhere in between but Robbie dictates the narrative, not the club, so he paints himself as the loyal hero who's been wronged and then waits for public pressure and that of the sponsors to force the change that suits him.

Well said
 
@gallagher said:
@bobo125 said:
just a hunch but is "gallager" Lana taylor ? ? ?

Yeah. I joined the forum in 2009 in the hope my husband
( i assume Lana is his wife) would one day become the tigers coach.
On the other hand you joined the day the news struck. I'll say it again, your way to obvious in your trolling.

i have been watching and reading articles on this forum for a very very long time.

i joined that day because i was so shocked at what was unfolding.

it seems there are a few people here like yourself that - if you dont share their sentiments - they want to argue simple facts and name call others
wow !!!

some of them even want to argue ridiculously about what a club / boss can and cannot do.

th forum is open for everyone to offer an opinion …not to be run by a few of you want to shoot down everyone who seemingly has a different opinion than yours.

keep calling people names mate.
it dosnt bother me in the slightest.

amazing
 
The questions I would like answered is did the Board approve Taylor and Reddy to meet with Farah and his agent? If so, what were they authorised to negotiate? Whatever it was, if what Taylor is alleged to have said later is true, he seems to have exceeded his brief when he mentioned the word "heated".
 
@Balmain Boy said:
Well management and JT are in a pickle here, we all know that, but some of you don't understand why they can't/won't tell their side of the story in any detail.

If you're trying to sell something, you don't publicly proclaim all the faults of that product from the offset. As a sales person, you would talk up the positive traits and skimp over the negatives without actually lying about anything though.

If JT/board come out and say for example that Robbie is super high maintenance, argues consistently with all his coaches, abuses his team mates and creates disharmony within the club it's hardly going to create a wealth of possible buyers calling up to take him off our hands. No-one would go near him and we'd be stuck with him regardless. If we say nothing about all this publicly then a buyer may surface and it's then up to them to determine the fit Robbie would have within their club and structure.

So Robbie's manager takes advantage of this and paints the club as the super bad guys, and a lot of gullible fans and journos eat it up without thinking twice. It may be true, it may be crap or most likely somewhere in between but Robbie dictates the narrative, not the club, so he paints himself as the loyal hero who's been wronged and then waits for public pressure and that of the sponsors to force the change that suits him.

Ive heard a story very different to that.

The young players went to Farah about the coach, Farah went to coach about their concerns. Coach is trying to remove Farah so young players pay him more attention.
 
@Tiger In The Gong said:
@Balmain Boy said:
Well management and JT are in a pickle here, we all know that, but some of you don't understand why they can't/won't tell their side of the story in any detail.

If you're trying to sell something, you don't publicly proclaim all the faults of that product from the offset. As a sales person, you would talk up the positive traits and skimp over the negatives without actually lying about anything though.

If JT/board come out and say for example that Robbie is super high maintenance, argues consistently with all his coaches, abuses his team mates and creates disharmony within the club it's hardly going to create a wealth of possible buyers calling up to take him off our hands. No-one would go near him and we'd be stuck with him regardless. If we say nothing about all this publicly then a buyer may surface and it's then up to them to determine the fit Robbie would have within their club and structure.

So Robbie's manager takes advantage of this and paints the club as the super bad guys, and a lot of gullible fans and journos eat it up without thinking twice. It may be true, it may be crap or most likely somewhere in between but Robbie dictates the narrative, not the club, so he paints himself as the loyal hero who's been wronged and then waits for public pressure and that of the sponsors to force the change that suits him.

Ive heard a story very different to that.

The young players went to Farah about the coach, Farah went to coach about their concerns. Coach is trying to remove Farah so young players pay him more attention.

i too have " heard " many stories similar to what tiger in the gong has said.
the team has not been performing.
the young cubs have not taken to the coach at all.
they look to Robbie as the shield between themselves and JT
as for robbie painting himself in one way or the other….. im not sure anyone would want to do that to themselves. im not sure anyone would even encourage someone else to say - go and paint the club you love as a bunch of this and that - surely that would contradict his love for the club ?
its obvious there is a problem between coach and player.
it at some point seems like one of the parties made a move to beat the other to the punch.
that moved however has back fired.....
 
@bobo125 said:
@Tiger In The Gong said:
@Balmain Boy said:
Well management and JT are in a pickle here, we all know that, but some of you don't understand why they can't/won't tell their side of the story in any detail.

If you're trying to sell something, you don't publicly proclaim all the faults of that product from the offset. As a sales person, you would talk up the positive traits and skimp over the negatives without actually lying about anything though.

If JT/board come out and say for example that Robbie is super high maintenance, argues consistently with all his coaches, abuses his team mates and creates disharmony within the club it's hardly going to create a wealth of possible buyers calling up to take him off our hands. No-one would go near him and we'd be stuck with him regardless. If we say nothing about all this publicly then a buyer may surface and it's then up to them to determine the fit Robbie would have within their club and structure.

So Robbie's manager takes advantage of this and paints the club as the super bad guys, and a lot of gullible fans and journos eat it up without thinking twice. It may be true, it may be crap or most likely somewhere in between but Robbie dictates the narrative, not the club, so he paints himself as the loyal hero who's been wronged and then waits for public pressure and that of the sponsors to force the change that suits him.

Ive heard a story very different to that.

The young players went to Farah about the coach, Farah went to coach about their concerns. Coach is trying to remove Farah so young players pay him more attention.

i too have " heard " many stories similar to what tiger in the gong has said.
the team has not been performing.
the young cubs have not taken to the coach at all.
they look to Robbie as the shield between themselves and JT
as for robbie painting himself in one way or the other….. im not sure anyone would want to do that to themselves. im not sure anyone would even encourage someone else to say - go and paint the club you love as a bunch of this and that - surely that would contradict his love for the club ?
its obvious there is a problem between coach and player.
it at some point seems like one of the parties made a move to beat the other to the punch.
that moved however has back fired.....

Good post … Well said.
 
I find it interesting that Mick Potter on NRL 360 right now has given has given his support to Robbie Farah in this situation. Out of all people, Mick Potter :laughing:

Apparently it all comes down to how Robbie is being instructed to play. Robbie wants to play his natural game as he feels by being a simple distributor the team isn't playing to it's strengths.

Nathan Brown, Mick Potter and James Hooper all agree that Robbie is being instructed to not play his natural game and it is the WRONG call. They think he should move on and play his natural game for a another team that can benefit from his play.

Last weeks game was an up ya to JT showing him what his missing out on by deviating from Robbie's natural game.

JT seriously has some egg on his face, considering that we put 50 on the opposition as soon as the team defied JT's game plan and instructions.
 
Potter also said that a coach needs his on field leaders to do as they are instructed and not deviate from those instructions.
I'd say all coaches would agree with that.
 
@Tony33 said:
I find it interesting that Mick Potter on NRL 360 right now has given has given his support to Robbie Farah in this situation. Out of all people, Mick Potter :laughing:

Apparently it all comes down to how Robbie is being instructed to play. Robbie wants to play his natural game as he feels by being a simple distributor the team isn't playing to it's strengths.

Nathan Brown, Mick Potter and James Hooper all agree that Robbie is being instructed to not play his natural game and it is the WRONG call. They think he should move on and play his natural game for a another team that can benefit from his play.

Last weeks game was an up ya to JT showing him what his missing out on by deviating from Robbie's natural game.

JT seriously has some egg on his face, considering that we put 50 on the opposition as soon as the team defied JT's game plan and instructions.

Was that the case when we beat Melbourne and the Raiders back to back…what will be the excuse if we happen to lose to the Dragoons...?

Will Robbie go into his shell again...?
 
@Geo. said:
@Tony33 said:
I find it interesting that Mick Potter on NRL 360 right now has given has given his support to Robbie Farah in this situation. Out of all people, Mick Potter :laughing:

Apparently it all comes down to how Robbie is being instructed to play. Robbie wants to play his natural game as he feels by being a simple distributor the team isn't playing to it's strengths.

Nathan Brown, Mick Potter and James Hooper all agree that Robbie is being instructed to not play his natural game and it is the WRONG call. They think he should move on and play his natural game for a another team that can benefit from his play.

Last weeks game was an up ya to JT showing him what his missing out on by deviating from Robbie's natural game.

JT seriously has some egg on his face, considering that we put 50 on the opposition as soon as the team defied JT's game plan and instructions.

Was that the case when we beat Melbourne and the Raiders back to back…what will be the excuse if we happen to lose to the Dragoons...?

Will Robbie go into his shell again...?

Robbie played outside JT's game plan once this season.

He scored a try, had 3 try assists, 2 line breaks and we won by 50

The numbers don't lie.

It will be interesting to see how Robbie plays this week. Will it be Taylor Ball or Robbie's natural game
 
I could agree with this Taylorball stuff if Farah's form nosedived this year. But he's been pretty average for a number of years if you ask me.
 
@Tony33 said:
@Geo. said:
@Tony33 said:
I find it interesting that Mick Potter on NRL 360 right now has given has given his support to Robbie Farah in this situation. Out of all people, Mick Potter :laughing:

Apparently it all comes down to how Robbie is being instructed to play. Robbie wants to play his natural game as he feels by being a simple distributor the team isn't playing to it's strengths.

Nathan Brown, Mick Potter and James Hooper all agree that Robbie is being instructed to not play his natural game and it is the WRONG call. They think he should move on and play his natural game for a another team that can benefit from his play.

Last weeks game was an up ya to JT showing him what his missing out on by deviating from Robbie's natural game.

JT seriously has some egg on his face, considering that we put 50 on the opposition as soon as the team defied JT's game plan and instructions.

Was that the case when we beat Melbourne and the Raiders back to back…what will be the excuse if we happen to lose to the Dragoons...?

Will Robbie go into his shell again...?

Robbie played outside JT's game plan once this season.

He scored a try, had 3 try assists, 2 line breaks and we won by 50

The numbers don't lie.

It will be interesting to see how Robbie plays this week. Will it be Taylor Ball or Robbie's natural game

Against the Warriors who just about every one in the past 7 weeks have put 50 on..correlation doesn't necessarily mean causation… .Ignore the fact we beat Melbourne and Canberra back to back if Robbie was following instructions as you point out above ..."Robbie played outside JT's game plan once this season." ...so it appears the JT game plan was OK then..

We are 3/5 in the last month and a bit of footy...the best record of any bottom 8 side..numbers don't lie...

This weeks game for me will be the most interesting game of the season....
 
@Tiger In The Gong said:
@Balmain Boy said:
Well management and JT are in a pickle here, we all know that, but some of you don't understand why they can't/won't tell their side of the story in any detail.

If you're trying to sell something, you don't publicly proclaim all the faults of that product from the offset. As a sales person, you would talk up the positive traits and skimp over the negatives without actually lying about anything though.

If JT/board come out and say for example that Robbie is super high maintenance, argues consistently with all his coaches, abuses his team mates and creates disharmony within the club it's hardly going to create a wealth of possible buyers calling up to take him off our hands. No-one would go near him and we'd be stuck with him regardless. If we say nothing about all this publicly then a buyer may surface and it's then up to them to determine the fit Robbie would have within their club and structure.

So Robbie's manager takes advantage of this and paints the club as the super bad guys, and a lot of gullible fans and journos eat it up without thinking twice. It may be true, it may be crap or most likely somewhere in between but Robbie dictates the narrative, not the club, so he paints himself as the loyal hero who's been wronged and then waits for public pressure and that of the sponsors to force the change that suits him.

Ive heard a story very different to that.

The young players went to Farah about the coach, Farah went to coach about their concerns. Coach is trying to remove Farah so young players pay him more attention.

Yet Farah is not the coach and the players should have vented their concerns with their BOSS not their captain….Maybe if Farah told them to go to Taylor we may not have the disharmony within our ranks that we have at the moment....Farah bound for "matredom" poor me only passing on what the kids said...please...if the young guys aren't man enough to face the coach then maybe they shouldn't be the overhyped "Superstars "we are supposed to believe we have..
 
@Tiger In The Gong said:
@Balmain Boy said:
Well management and JT are in a pickle here, we all know that, but some of you don't understand why they can't/won't tell their side of the story in any detail.

If you're trying to sell something, you don't publicly proclaim all the faults of that product from the offset. As a sales person, you would talk up the positive traits and skimp over the negatives without actually lying about anything though.

If JT/board come out and say for example that Robbie is super high maintenance, argues consistently with all his coaches, abuses his team mates and creates disharmony within the club it's hardly going to create a wealth of possible buyers calling up to take him off our hands. No-one would go near him and we'd be stuck with him regardless. If we say nothing about all this publicly then a buyer may surface and it's then up to them to determine the fit Robbie would have within their club and structure.

So Robbie's manager takes advantage of this and paints the club as the super bad guys, and a lot of gullible fans and journos eat it up without thinking twice. It may be true, it may be crap or most likely somewhere in between but Robbie dictates the narrative, not the club, so he paints himself as the loyal hero who's been wronged and then waits for public pressure and that of the sponsors to force the change that suits him.

Ive heard a story very different to that.

The young players went to Farah about the coach, Farah went to coach about their concerns. Coach is trying to remove Farah so young players pay him more attention.

Where did u hear that. Since when did you have inside info.
 
@Curaeus said:
Hugely impressed with Benji's defence of his old mate Robbie on NRL360\. Had cooled a lot on the Benj in recent times but he really stood up when it mattered

He didnt 100% can out supporting. He also said his not everyone cup of tea and moody.
 
@Tony33 said:
I find it interesting that Mick Potter on NRL 360 right now has given has given his support to Robbie Farah in this situation. Out of all people, Mick Potter :laughing:

Apparently it all comes down to how Robbie is being instructed to play. Robbie wants to play his natural game as he feels by being a simple distributor the team isn't playing to it's strengths.

Nathan Brown, Mick Potter and James Hooper all agree that Robbie is being instructed to not play his natural game and it is the WRONG call. They think he should move on and play his natural game for a another team that can benefit from his play.

Last weeks game was an up ya to JT showing him what his missing out on by deviating from Robbie's natural game.

JT seriously has some egg on his face, considering that we put 50 on the opposition as soon as the team defied JT's game plan and instructions.

Now we are starting to see some truth to this matter. Its about time.

This whole situation has been caused because the guy cant coach and the players are being asked to play a style they are not comfortable with, not confident in and one that doesnt suit their best attributes.
 

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