Robbie Farah..Discussion Thread.....
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Just my opinion,but reading this article about HTs intervention,I think there will be a lot more to discuss on the matter….it appears Harry as a major sponsor may relinquish that title,however he may have a greater input in the not so distant future.....which ever way it goes there will be a resolution,some may not like it and some may....one thing for sure I wouldn't write Harry's intervention off lightly.....
@goldcoast tiger said:
I don't think it matters one bit if he understands football. That's not what he's there for. He's there to mediate between Farah and Taylor to broker a deal where it is possible for Farah to stay. That takes an ability to read people and communicate effectively. He wouldn't be where he is without those skills.
I dare say he will get to the bottom of the personality dispute and communicate his displeasure with it in a very persuasive way.
If he's successful both Farah and Taylor will have to come out sticking to the agreed line so neither loses face. It will have to be publicly portrayed as a win-win.
Heres to his success. Go WT!
**<big>Why Wests Tigers may pay out Robbie Farah's lucrative contract to force him out</big>
Date September 2, 2015 - 11:49PM\
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If relations between Robbie Farah and Wests Tigers continue down their poisonous path, club officials may elect to pay him out, rather than retain what they clearly perceive to be a divisive force.
Suppose Farah's management is offered a $800,000 a year payout on the remaining two years of his contract, understood to be $925,000 a year. If another NRL club, such as Souths, offered him $200,000 a season, it would be an attractive proposition, playing for a more competitive team.
However, the NRL would insist Souths outlay a figure commensurate with the value of an Australian and NSW hooker.
This would mean Souths paying $500,000, which allows Wests Tigers the opportunity of negotiating down some of the money they were prepared to outlay to release him. But salary cap space is the most valuable real estate in rugby league, apart from the 15cm between a halfback's ears, and it is unlikely any club would have a spare half a million dollars, particularly so late in a season.
It all adds up to Farah being out of a job in Australia, which may explain why one former, out of work, Wests Tigers coach sent a text message this week to a former board member, using the word "karma".
I haven't talked with Farah or Wests Tigers coach Jason Taylor in a decade, nor with Taylor's assistant, Rod "Rocket" Reddy whom I coached at St George. "Rocket", apart from being a former international back-rower, is one of those jovial, amiable types that intense coaches like having around the clubhouse to lighten the mood. I'm told it was "Rocket" who communicated the message to Farah that he would be playing reserve grade should he remain at the Tigers.
For him to render this brutal cut, there must be a serious disconnect between Farah and the coaching staff. Or between Farah and his young teammates who see a bright future for the club. From what I see on the field there have been times these creative halves, clearly building for an opportunity to score, have been stranded when Farah suddenly makes a run from dummy half. I've seen similar wrong options taken in State of Origin matches but I defer here to NSW coach Laurie Daley who has made a spirited defence of Farah, declaring he would choose the 31-year-old from the NSW Cup. A cynic might suggest Daley has to say this, given NSW's dearth of rakes - of this year's back-up options,
Michael Ennis is nearing the end of his career and Ryan Hinchcliffe is heading to Huddersfield.
Some would say Farah's desperation to score himself, when the team has other plans, is an indication of his ultra-competitiveness. A workhorse around the ruck, he would make a mule drool. He regularly tops the tackle count but his 80 minutes in the middle of the ruck hasn't stopped his team having the worst defence in the NRL last year and the second worst in 2013\. It's been reported Farah takes losing so badly, it becomes a negative force. From what I have seen of modern footballers, this can't be all bad.
With full-time employment, professional footballers have become 9 to 5 workers and the gap between winning and losing is diminishing, unlike the euphoric highs and debilitating lows we experienced in the dinosaur days.
No, there must be something seriously wrong for Wests Tigers to be taking this step. The board is strongly backing Taylor, despite savage criticism from broadcaster and former Balmain coach, Alan Jones. Former federal sports minister, John Brown, has written a letter, co-signed with Balmain legend, Benny Elias, to NRL chief executive Dave Smith asking him to reconcile coach and captain.
Sometimes a captain's need to be loved bisects a coach's need to be right but I don't think it applies here. Farah has his coterie of admirers for daily coffees.
It's been reported club benefactor Harry Triguboff might pay off the $4.5m due early next year to restore the Balmain Tigers to half ownership of Wests Tigers. Furthermore, it's been suggested Triguboff could buy out Wests share. The Magpies have a veto over any new partner but Wests' two directors on the NRL club's board have business backgrounds. They would have to consider a $50m offer for Wests' share, particularly with $20m in refurbishments planned for their licensed premises at Ashfield. The remainder could go to seeing the Magpie as a stand-alone emblem, soaring again in the forthcoming, revitalised NSW Cup.
The NRL has lost $40m in funding from Sydney licensed clubs in the past few years, a reason why Smith will back the decisive leadership of the Wests Tigers board who seek a commitment from all to a strong, unified culture.
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Date September 2, 2015 - 11:49PM\
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Roy Masters\
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Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/wests-tigers/why-wests-tigers-may-pay-out-robbie-farahs-lucrative-contract-to-force-him-out-20150902-gjdh0m.html#ixzz3kd8t0IcO**
If relations between Robbie Farah and Wests Tigers continue down their poisonous path, club officials may elect to pay him out, rather than retain what they clearly perceive to be a divisive force.
Suppose Farah's management is offered a $800,000 a year payout on the remaining two years of his contract, understood to be $925,000 a year. If another NRL club, such as Souths, offered him $200,000 a season, it would be an attractive proposition, playing for a more competitive team.
However, the NRL would insist Souths outlay a figure commensurate with the value of an Australian and NSW hooker.
This would mean Souths paying $500,000, which allows Wests Tigers the opportunity of negotiating down some of the money they were prepared to outlay to release him. But salary cap space is the most valuable real estate in rugby league, apart from the 15cm between a halfback's ears, and it is unlikely any club would have a spare half a million dollars, particularly so late in a season.
It all adds up to Farah being out of a job in Australia, which may explain why one former, out of work, Wests Tigers coach sent a text message this week to a former board member, using the word "karma".
I haven't talked with Farah or Wests Tigers coach Jason Taylor in a decade, nor with Taylor's assistant, Rod "Rocket" Reddy whom I coached at St George. "Rocket", apart from being a former international back-rower, is one of those jovial, amiable types that intense coaches like having around the clubhouse to lighten the mood. I'm told it was "Rocket" who communicated the message to Farah that he would be playing reserve grade should he remain at the Tigers.
For him to render this brutal cut, there must be a serious disconnect between Farah and the coaching staff. Or between Farah and his young teammates who see a bright future for the club. From what I see on the field there have been times these creative halves, clearly building for an opportunity to score, have been stranded when Farah suddenly makes a run from dummy half. I've seen similar wrong options taken in State of Origin matches but I defer here to NSW coach Laurie Daley who has made a spirited defence of Farah, declaring he would choose the 31-year-old from the NSW Cup. A cynic might suggest Daley has to say this, given NSW's dearth of rakes - of this year's back-up options,
Michael Ennis is nearing the end of his career and Ryan Hinchcliffe is heading to Huddersfield.
Some would say Farah's desperation to score himself, when the team has other plans, is an indication of his ultra-competitiveness. A workhorse around the ruck, he would make a mule drool. He regularly tops the tackle count but his 80 minutes in the middle of the ruck hasn't stopped his team having the worst defence in the NRL last year and the second worst in 2013\. It's been reported Farah takes losing so badly, it becomes a negative force. From what I have seen of modern footballers, this can't be all bad.
With full-time employment, professional footballers have become 9 to 5 workers and the gap between winning and losing is diminishing, unlike the euphoric highs and debilitating lows we experienced in the dinosaur days.
No, there must be something seriously wrong for Wests Tigers to be taking this step. The board is strongly backing Taylor, despite savage criticism from broadcaster and former Balmain coach, Alan Jones. Former federal sports minister, John Brown, has written a letter, co-signed with Balmain legend, Benny Elias, to NRL chief executive Dave Smith asking him to reconcile coach and captain.
Sometimes a captain's need to be loved bisects a coach's need to be right but I don't think it applies here. Farah has his coterie of admirers for daily coffees.
It's been reported club benefactor Harry Triguboff might pay off the $4.5m due early next year to restore the Balmain Tigers to half ownership of Wests Tigers. Furthermore, it's been suggested Triguboff could buy out Wests share. The Magpies have a veto over any new partner but Wests' two directors on the NRL club's board have business backgrounds. They would have to consider a $50m offer for Wests' share, particularly with $20m in refurbishments planned for their licensed premises at Ashfield. The remainder could go to seeing the Magpie as a stand-alone emblem, soaring again in the forthcoming, revitalised NSW Cup.
The NRL has lost $40m in funding from Sydney licensed clubs in the past few years, a reason why Smith will back the decisive leadership of the Wests Tigers board who seek a commitment from all to a strong, unified culture.
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@NT Tiger said:
thats exactly right NT.
i did say this a week ago. HT will step in.
his business interests are substantial.
you need to also remember, when someone like Packer takes a stake in Souths, the competitive nature of these types of business men is no different to sport.
HT sees Balmain as a club / area as a very lucrative proposition.
it does not serve the community well to have this type of drama engulfing the club (or his business interest)
lets see if he can sort it out.
or lets see if the so called "whispers in the wind" are true about his ultimate plans to bring balmain back to a single entity again. :sunglasses:
Well past the point of no return. Lets just get it done and move on.
@Spartan117 said:
I'm inclined to agree, but if Triguboff can use his business acumen and powers of persuasion to broker a real compromise then I don't have a drama with it.
My guesss is it would look like; Taylor agrees to find a way to fit Farah into the playing structure in a way that takes advantage of his natural game. Farah agrees to drop his 'poor bugger me' campaign, fully support Taylor as coach including playing to his structure, relinquishes captaincy and moves on in 2017.
I'm not writing it off as a possibility and it could bear good results.
I think that most Wests Tigers fans want a team to follow for the future and which can at least be capable of some competiveness. With this "Divide and Conquer" poisonous strain which has hit this strain this won't happen and the club will certainly die. Let the bosses sort this out without big noters like Ben Elias, Alan Jones and so more sticking their nose into something which they heave no control over.
@Tigermama said:
Agree ck. Have been saying this for some time. Abuse against the Board, Taylor, Farah and fellow forum members gets us nowhere.
Let things sort themselves out and let's concentrate on the good things that are happening. For example, the young guns coming through from the NYC. The young guns playing in our first grade side. Our new trainers and our new training facilities (coming soon). Some of the new players that have joined us, ( Chee-Cam, etc). The rebirth of Chris Lawrence, the absolute genius of Tedesco and who should coach our reserve grade side. The dumping of our CEO and the selection of our new CEO.
We might get the wooden spoon, ( most likely not ), but always remember who were the wooden spooners last year. Cronulla from memory. How are they going this year? Semi finals that's how. Don't forget the 9s coming up as well. Lets discuss who should be selected in that tournament.
So bad year or not, life goes on and the sun will rise in the morning.
foreveratiger
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@magpiecol said:
Coming from you :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: .
You taken up Yoga lesson and Tai Chi i see :roll
TIGERS
Well-known member
Im so over Robbie Farah. Not worth the trouble.
vlad
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With Nathan Brown confirmed as knights coach , I wouldn't be surprised if he made an enquiry re RF. Brown was certainly talking him up last night .
On the other hand , if HT gets involved , what's to say RF all of a sudden takes a paycut in his last year in exchange for a nice deal on a Meriton apartment. Hey the Cowboys are all in on it up in townsville.
I've run out of hands now .
On the other hand , if HT gets involved , what's to say RF all of a sudden takes a paycut in his last year in exchange for a nice deal on a Meriton apartment. Hey the Cowboys are all in on it up in townsville.
I've run out of hands now .
goldcoast_tiger
New member
I didn't say I didn't want harry to intervene,
I just said I'm not sure
I just said I'm not sure
@vlad said:
i have to agree.
i think Browny made a open showing of his interest in Farrah last night.
i also think everyone in that discussion was quite clear on who or what the real problem is.
what HT does is yet to be seen.
i just have a feeling their is a lot more to HT & Balmain and the need for HT to include David Smith in these discussions.
