Robbie Farah..Discussion Thread.....

[Geo]

Brooks and Moses don't have managers…I think Brooks is managed by his father and Moses by his uncle? Happy to be corrected if wrong.

Ayoub his ruined Tedescos reputation, talking him into canberra, now this etc. Hope he dumps him as manager.

I think both are managed by Moses' brother.

You would know more than i do, i just remember Brooks's family handling his last contract negotiation.

Brooks and Moses are both managed by Issac Moses…

 

[Telltails]

What bs crap with Brooks are you talking about Happy

The reported meeting between Moses ,Ayoub ,Brooks etc

Brooks family is filthy about it and another player is dumping the Ayoub over this

Farah would know it didn't happen

If he loves the club and the players like he claims he should come out and say something

If not it just supports every claim being made about Farah

So they were not there - there was no meeting ??? Not being smart - I am just confused about what you are suggesting. But from reading your posts it appears that you are really frustrated because you are privvy to something that we are not .

They were there but there was no meeting. Brooks and Moses were there with friends separate to Farah. I'm sure at some stage they were seen talking to Farah but it wasn't a meeting. The fact Farah has allowed media to beat it up so it seems the youngsters are with him and possibly against the club reflects very poorly on Robbie and from what i can gather has upset our 3 most key players (Tedesco) included even though he wasn't there. Tedesco probably upset about other reports that he "could" follow Farah out.

That's my take, correct me where I'm wrong Happy, Geo etc. I think I got close to it.

Ok thanks for clarifying - a bit of never let the truth get in the way of a good story again.

 

[gallagher]

http://www.sportal.com.au/league/nrl-premiership/revealed-friend-threatens-roosters-exit-over-farah/1ndq18r9hqvrw1gzkytmvkq6wt
Girdler reckons the chooks are out

 

[Russell]

Happy you don't get it from my end. I see coaches fall for different reasons then you do fundamentally. I see them as having some responsibility for their own demise really rather then shifting all the blame onto Robbie Farah for "bringing them down"

Farah played nearly a decade under Sheens so I think its a strange one of say he bought him down.

I tell you who bought down Sheens. Average performers week in and week out and perhaps shock horror some average selections on his behalf in terms of light weight packs and terrible benches. Blokes who never reached their level. Guys like Lawrence, Galloway, Blair, Moltzen, these are the players that bought down Sheens.

Sheens wouldn't have been in any trouble if he kept making finals series would he?He would have done that with more consistent performances from certain boys club players.

Face facts some Tigers fans agree with my point of view, some with you. You can claim people have no idea, but other people might think you have no idea. Its just difference of opinion.

Sheens has been quoted saying that senior player(s) brought him down. So, Happy wasn't going left field there.. and I completely agree with the assumption it was most likely Robbie.
Mick Potter was 100% brought down by Robbie. Before then, we were top 4 I think?
Now he has obviously tried it on Taylor otherwise he wouldn't have been given the boot.

It's funny you mention all the coaches are to blame. Because I can only see one common factor across all the years that WT has under-performed. Robbie. Every other role or position in the club has been rotated.

You mean Sheens was shifting blame for getting sacked? Wow, thats startling.

Where is he coaching now remind me please?

Oh thats right no NRL club would touch him and he lost 3 times in a row to NZ and got sacked as Aussie coach? Maybe Robbie got in their ear ay?!

Which NRL club pounced on Potter? Oh he was working at his wife cafe last year that right. I liked Potter but if was so good why hasn't he been picked up elsewhere>

If your right and Robbie bought these guys down well he is not alone because 15 other NRL clubs are passing on these guys.

Wonder who will poach taylor from us at the end of the year I wonder?

That's it Eddie - put crap on who you like but not Potter.

That's just weak.

He had no authority, no money to buy players and half the players he had kacked up on him, led by FARAH!!!!!

Yea! he' s a great coach, yea! nobody wants him.
This is Australia, the home of giving a bloke a fair go. Sure it is.

He was not given a fair go. You are kidding - "I like the bloke"

Sure glad you didn't hate him.

He's a good bloke - deserved better from the Board, the players and YOU!

 

[Guest]

What bs crap with Brooks are you talking about Happy

The reported meeting between Moses ,Ayoub ,Brooks etc

Brooks family is filthy about it and another player is dumping the Ayoub over this

Farah would know it didn't happen

If he loves the club and the players like he claims he should come out and say something

If not it just supports every claim being made about Farah

How do you know that was a meeting with them or that they were involved in any discussions.
There's plenty of people saying that it was hardly a private meeting, and apparently a place where the players regulatrly go socially. There has been nothing that I've seen to say they were part of any conspiracies .
I took the report that the families were upset about the original reports involving both , was becaused it involved the young guys. But have seen Nothing that says they are filthy with Farah and his manager about their so called" dragging" the young guys into it. I read it as they were filthy about the way it was reported to deliberately involve the players.

But never mind , if the way I read it was right, it still makes a bit of shakey
news that can soon be Moulded into fact, to join some of the other stuff accredited to Farah
The only place that I've seen anything Saying that the young blokes were involved in any actual meeting is here, and We know how reliable that that would be.

So whoever wrote this report , is someone who we can believe , is it?
I only ask , as there so many reporters that are spoken of here as grubs one day, and as fine upstanding gentlemen of the press the next. Depending On whether their story suits one argument ot the other on any given day
I agree with you though , it does sound like BS.

GC, I'll back Happy on this one as I know his source on the matter. It's solid, far more so than 90% of the dribble being posted in this thread. Farah will be at the Tigers next year, but he's by far the most arrogant player to have pulled on the jersey.

 

[Guest]

Ok Jt is struggling
but I read in the tele that farah and moses and brookes were in a meeting with Farah's manager
Do we need any more proof what Robbie is doing.
JT is right in moving him on

That report is incorrect.

 

[Guest]

What bs crap with Brooks are you talking about Happy

The reported meeting between Moses ,Ayoub ,Brooks etc

Brooks family is filthy about it and another player is dumping the Ayoub over this

Farah would know it didn't happen

If he loves the club and the players like he claims he should come out and say something

If not it just supports every claim being made about Farah

So they were not there - there was no meeting ??? Not being smart - I am just confused about what you are suggesting. But from reading your posts it appears that you are really frustrated because you are privvy to something that we are not .

They were there for another reason altogether, as Geo mentioned about 20 pages back in this debacle of a thread.

 

[Eddie]

Buddy,

Its all Robbie fault that both coaches were sacked (Or Wobbie as some of our fans like to call him)

It was not Sheens fault they couldn't tackle or played 3 wingers on the bench most weeks?

Coaches are not partly to blame for being sacked with 40% win records? Why would you think that

Farah orchestrated it all

:crazy

I don't reckon you are totally off the mark Eddie.

Problem is, this issue could have gone 2 ways - the quiet respectful way, and the ridiculous drawn-out media way.

Almost nobody is arguing that Farah is not hard-done-by. I think most supporters agree he has been an absolute pillar of our club and one of our most tremendous on- and off-field contributors.

The problem is that this media campaign has really hurt the club and supporters. Only the player and agent can drum up the media storm, because it's there only public recourse against the club. No club would ever push this material themselves, it's just self-slaughter.

So whether or not Farah explicitly gave instructions, his manager and lawyer are campaigning hard.

If you go back to the early pages, the support for him was very high, very solid. After a few months of mess and mud, many people have waivered, lost respect, changed their mind.

It then becomes easy to look back at the history and nitpick at Farah, speculate on his involvement in coaching declines etc., emphasise his role in past failures. I think a lot of supporters are trying to find ways to come to terms with what they now consider a certainty - that Farah will be gone soon enough.

He doesn't deserve all of that, but at the same time, the club doesn't deserve the media circus over what is a fairly common player transaction.

I personally was shocked and surprised, but honestly Farah is not at his best right now. If he was, we would not be having this conversation. And if he really was a completely helpful team player, the coach wouldn't be trying to manage him out of the side.

Farah has gambled on a PR backlash against the club, and I think he originally had it, but the longer we go without footy and only speculation in the papers, the more his reputation is tarnished.

You have summed it up well there.
I think some fans are doing some revisionist history on Farah and using anything against him now.
When for the most part he was a consistently excellent player.
I think fundamentally where we differ is you seem to have degree of faith in these coaches or this coach anyway plus admin and where they are taking the club.

If someone like Craig Bellamy were making this call on Farah, I would be surprised, but I would accept it. My gut feeling is the best coaches in Hasler, Bennett, Bellemy wouldn't have any drams with Farah.

Jason Taylor hasn't really earnt anyone's respect in the game yet as a coach. he came in straight away and disrespected previous coaches and admin and has done nothing but shift blame. He talked a good game and has not backed anything up. If the team and the club improve as a result of Farah's exit ill be the first to praise him.

I would just be surprised if it turns out that way. We have paid peanuts for our coaches really and whats the saying you, you pay peanuts you get …...

 

[GNR4LIFE]

GC, I'll back Happy on this one as I know his source on the matter. It's solid, far more so than 90% of the dribble being posted in this thread. Farah will be at the Tigers next year, but he's by far the most arrogant player to have pulled on the jersey.

I'll second that. Though i don't think its due to his stature, more so how he's always been. My dad is mates with Robbie Mears dad. Robbie Mears was the hooker when Farah was blooded. And word around the camp fire even then was that he had a massive ego.

 

[Eddie]

Happy you don't get it from my end. I see coaches fall for different reasons then you do fundamentally. I see them as having some responsibility for their own demise really rather then shifting all the blame onto Robbie Farah for "bringing them down"

Farah played nearly a decade under Sheens so I think its a strange one of say he bought him down.

I tell you who bought down Sheens. Average performers week in and week out and perhaps shock horror some average selections on his behalf in terms of light weight packs and terrible benches. Blokes who never reached their level. Guys like Lawrence, Galloway, Blair, Moltzen, these are the players that bought down Sheens.

Sheens wouldn't have been in any trouble if he kept making finals series would he?He would have done that with more consistent performances from certain boys club players.

Face facts some Tigers fans agree with my point of view, some with you. You can claim people have no idea, but other people might think you have no idea. Its just difference of opinion.

Sheens has been quoted saying that senior player(s) brought him down. So, Happy wasn't going left field there.. and I completely agree with the assumption it was most likely Robbie.
Mick Potter was 100% brought down by Robbie. Before then, we were top 4 I think?
Now he has obviously tried it on Taylor otherwise he wouldn't have been given the boot.

It's funny you mention all the coaches are to blame. Because I can only see one common factor across all the years that WT has under-performed. Robbie. Every other role or position in the club has been rotated.

You mean Sheens was shifting blame for getting sacked? Wow, thats startling.

Where is he coaching now remind me please?

Oh thats right no NRL club would touch him and he lost 3 times in a row to NZ and got sacked as Aussie coach? Maybe Robbie got in their ear ay?!

Which NRL club pounced on Potter? Oh he was working at his wife cafe last year that right. I liked Potter but if was so good why hasn't he been picked up elsewhere>

If your right and Robbie bought these guys down well he is not alone because 15 other NRL clubs are passing on these guys.

Wonder who will poach taylor from us at the end of the year I wonder?

That's it Eddie - put crap on who you like but not Potter.

That's just p… weak.

He had no authority, no money to buy players and half the players he had kacked up on him, led by FARAH!!!!!

Yea! he' s a great coach, yea! nobody wants him.
This is Australia, the home of giving a bloke a fair go. Sure it is.

He was not given a fair go. You are kidding - "I like the bloke"

Sure glad you didn't hate him.

He's a good bloke - deserved better from the Board, the players and YOU!

I Liked Potter and called for him to stay last year when some wanted him out.

I was just pointing out where he was working last year.

I hope he does well he was poorly treated by the Tigers.

I think eh could be a decent coach. However if he was a Bellemy or a Maguire or Robinson, someone would have picked him up as Head Coach by now.

 

[Guest]

Just a reminder that disguised swearing is not on guys. I have edited 3 posts containing disguised swearing but that's it. There's a sticky on this and from now on if any further posts appear containing disguised swearing or otherwise, I'll be pressing the delete button and will close this thread if it continues.

 

[Telltails]

What bs crap with Brooks are you talking about Happy

The reported meeting between Moses ,Ayoub ,Brooks etc

Brooks family is filthy about it and another player is dumping the Ayoub over this

Farah would know it didn't happen

If he loves the club and the players like he claims he should come out and say something

If not it just supports every claim being made about Farah

So they were not there - there was no meeting ??? Not being smart - I am just confused about what you are suggesting. But from reading your posts it appears that you are really frustrated because you are privvy to something that we are not .

They were there for another reason altogether, as Geo mentioned about 20 pages back in this debacle of a thread.

Not surprised by that - its my local - and not unusual to see the Holy Cross boys there.

 

[Eddie]

And on sources, really it depends which source you talk to. You will still get 10 different opinions.

I speak to a guy regular who coached Luke Brooks and Mitchell Moses through the junior Balmain reps and was on the Balmain/West Tigers bench on game day for many years.

He said Taylors game plans and methods are terrible and most the squad are off him.

Still I form my judgments based on performances and Taylors complete lack of class in his dealing with the media in regards to previous coaches. That out me off him a bit from day 1.

 

[haberfield_tiger]

hope this gets sorted soon, the guy is ruining his legacy at the tigers. A real shame.

 

[rialto]

Well seeing as we are still going around in circles :- Once more, Robbie Farah said 'Taylor is a great coach'.

 

[tigertye]

And on sources, really it depends which source you talk to. You will still get 10 different opinions.

I speak to a guy regular who coached Luke Brooks and Mitchell Moses through the junior Balmain reps and was on the Balmain/West Tigers bench on game day for many years.

He said Taylors game plans and methods are terrible and most the squad are off him.

Still I form my judgments based on performances and Taylors complete lack of class in his dealing with the media in regards to previous coaches. That out me off him a bit from day 1.

You're right, it does depend on who you speak too.
John Asiata the Cowboys player came round my place about a year ago around the time we signed Taylor up. He played in the juniors and Taylor was his coach. John was good mates with my housemate. Obviously it was only junior footy, but he had nothing but praise for Taylor. Said he was great with the young guys and their development.

I must admit, I'm personally not a fan of Taylor with the way things have turned out now. Just passing on another persons point of view.

 

[Tigermama]

Happy you don't get it from my end. I see coaches fall for different reasons then you do fundamentally. I see them as having some responsibility for their own demise really rather then shifting all the blame onto Robbie Farah for "bringing them down"

Farah played nearly a decade under Sheens so I think its a strange one of say he bought him down.

I tell you who bought down Sheens. Average performers week in and week out and perhaps shock horror some average selections on his behalf in terms of light weight packs and terrible benches. Blokes who never reached their level. Guys like Lawrence, Galloway, Blair, Moltzen, these are the players that bought down Sheens.

Sheens wouldn't have been in any trouble if he kept making finals series would he?He would have done that with more consistent performances from certain boys club players.

Face facts some Tigers fans agree with my point of view, some with you. You can claim people have no idea, but other people might think you have no idea. Its just difference of opinion.

Have to agree Eddy, that Sheens was responsible for his own downfall. My family and i used to shake our heads in disbelief, with his team selections, week in week out :crazy

 

[innsaneink]

I speak to the father of a current first grader and a favourite of many here from the 80s and 90s….he reckons Farah is an egotistical wanker

 

[Geo]

Wonder what Tommy thinks of the whole situation… 😱pen_mouth:

 

[tiger_one]

Wonder what Tommy thinks of the whole situation… 😱pen_mouth:

Probably that his cattledog could pick a better game plan (apologies to Mr Clarke)…... :wink: