Rothfield’s weekly dribble

[Devon Head]

Buzz: Pressure builds on Wests Tigers’ Michael Maguire as Shane Flanagan waits for coaching shot
Shane Flanagan has a proven track record of producing what the Wests Tigers are critically lacking. When will the club bite the bullet and make a change, asks PHIL ROTHFIELD.
The Wests Tigers have missed out on yet another big-name signing opportunity, placing further pressure on the board to sack coach Michael Maguire.
On Sunday morning Storm forward Dale Finucane joined the likes of Latrell Mitchell, Tevita Pangai Junior, Josh Addo-Carr, Jai Arrow, AJ Brimson, Matt Moylan and Joseph Suaalii in rejecting lucrative offers from the struggling club in the last 18 months.
And they’re only the ones we’ve heard about.
Even Canterbury, who have hopelessly struggled in recent years, have been able to snare Matt Burton, Pangai Junior, probably Paul Vaughan, Addo-Carr, Luke Thompson (who almost every club chased) and Nick Cotric while he was a NSW and Australian player.
But no-one wants to go to the Wests Tigers.
There is even a senior official at the Wests Tigers who has been ringing around player managers in recent weeks to ask: “Is it Madge?”
Latrell Mitchell could have pocketed an extra $1.2 million by signing to play for Maguire instead of Wayne Bennett at the South Sydney Rabbitohs.
Souths offered him $800,000 for one year, the Wests Tigers $1.2 million per season for three years.
That is a huge monetary sacrifice.

The Finucane story is similar. He has taken an average of around $650,000 a year from the Sharks but could have got $800,000 a year from the Wests Tigers.
This has become a huge issue for the club on top of another season of terrible results.
In the last five weeks this team has now conceded 212 points at an average of 42.4 per game.
They can’t just wait for old four-time premiership winning coach Tim Sheens, who has been out of the NRL for 10 years, to come in and fix things.
They can’t just wait to find the next James Tedesco out of Campbelltown.
The Wests Tigers’ board has a huge decision to make.
Do they stick with Maguire or find a coach with a proven track record of building a premiership-winning side.
The Cronulla Sharks were in a similar position to the Wests Tigers when Shane Flanagan started a roster rebuild that would lead them to the 2016 premiership win.
He got James Maloney from the Roosters, Andrew Fifita, Beau Ryan and Chris Heighington from the Wests Tigers.
He got Luke Lewis and Wade Graham from the Penrith Panthers. Ben Barba from the Canterbury Bulldogs, Jack Bird from St George-Illawarra and perhaps the most important signing of all, Mick Ennis from the Bulldogs.
Equal credit for the recruitment should go to skipper Paul Gallen, who was the NSW captain at the time and so many players in the NRL wanted to play in his team.
Flanagan is about to become available for another head coaching job.
He has made some well documented mistakes.
None more so than hiring people on his high performance staff at the Sharks who injected peptides into his players.
Rightly or wrongly, there are still clubs concerned about his image, all these years later.
However it’s got to a stage for a club like the Wests Tigers where they have no choice.
It’s obvious they will not improve with their current roster – or their current coach.
THE SIGNS ARE THERE
Players Michael Maguire has missed at Wests Tigers
Dale Finucane, Latrell Mitchell, Tevita Pangai Junior, Josh Addo-Carr, Jai Arrow, A J Brimson, Matt Moylan
Players Shane Flanagan signed at Cronulla
James Maloney, Michael Ennis, Andrew Fifita, Luke Lewis, Wade Graham, Ben Barba, Jack Bird, Chis Heighington.

Easy to say Tigers missed out on all those players however how many did Tigers actually put in a legit offer for?

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

so now it's
Buzz Hooper Kent Cooper Anasta Read Chamas Riccio we are on the nose with all of them
we are not a very well run club and can't even get our offers in smoothly. If it was not true then people like Woodford would not mention it and we have seen it with tpj and finucane.
We do not help ourselves at all

 

[avocadoontoast]

Buzz: Pressure builds on Wests Tigers’ Michael Maguire as Shane Flanagan waits for coaching shot
Shane Flanagan has a proven track record of producing what the Wests Tigers are critically lacking. When will the club bite the bullet and make a change, asks PHIL ROTHFIELD.
The Wests Tigers have missed out on yet another big-name signing opportunity, placing further pressure on the board to sack coach Michael Maguire.
On Sunday morning Storm forward Dale Finucane joined the likes of Latrell Mitchell, Tevita Pangai Junior, Josh Addo-Carr, Jai Arrow, AJ Brimson, Matt Moylan and Joseph Suaalii in rejecting lucrative offers from the struggling club in the last 18 months.
And they’re only the ones we’ve heard about.
Even Canterbury, who have hopelessly struggled in recent years, have been able to snare Matt Burton, Pangai Junior, probably Paul Vaughan, Addo-Carr, Luke Thompson (who almost every club chased) and Nick Cotric while he was a NSW and Australian player.
But no-one wants to go to the Wests Tigers.
There is even a senior official at the Wests Tigers who has been ringing around player managers in recent weeks to ask: “Is it Madge?”
Latrell Mitchell could have pocketed an extra $1.2 million by signing to play for Maguire instead of Wayne Bennett at the South Sydney Rabbitohs.
Souths offered him $800,000 for one year, the Wests Tigers $1.2 million per season for three years.
That is a huge monetary sacrifice.

The Finucane story is similar. He has taken an average of around $650,000 a year from the Sharks but could have got $800,000 a year from the Wests Tigers.
This has become a huge issue for the club on top of another season of terrible results.
In the last five weeks this team has now conceded 212 points at an average of 42.4 per game.
They can’t just wait for old four-time premiership winning coach Tim Sheens, who has been out of the NRL for 10 years, to come in and fix things.
They can’t just wait to find the next James Tedesco out of Campbelltown.
The Wests Tigers’ board has a huge decision to make.
Do they stick with Maguire or find a coach with a proven track record of building a premiership-winning side.
The Cronulla Sharks were in a similar position to the Wests Tigers when Shane Flanagan started a roster rebuild that would lead them to the 2016 premiership win.
He got James Maloney from the Roosters, Andrew Fifita, Beau Ryan and Chris Heighington from the Wests Tigers.
He got Luke Lewis and Wade Graham from the Penrith Panthers. Ben Barba from the Canterbury Bulldogs, Jack Bird from St George-Illawarra and perhaps the most important signing of all, Mick Ennis from the Bulldogs.
Equal credit for the recruitment should go to skipper Paul Gallen, who was the NSW captain at the time and so many players in the NRL wanted to play in his team.
Flanagan is about to become available for another head coaching job.
He has made some well documented mistakes.
None more so than hiring people on his high performance staff at the Sharks who injected peptides into his players.
Rightly or wrongly, there are still clubs concerned about his image, all these years later.
However it’s got to a stage for a club like the Wests Tigers where they have no choice.
It’s obvious they will not improve with their current roster – or their current coach.
THE SIGNS ARE THERE
Players Michael Maguire has missed at Wests Tigers
Dale Finucane, Latrell Mitchell, Tevita Pangai Junior, Josh Addo-Carr, Jai Arrow, A J Brimson, Matt Moylan
Players Shane Flanagan signed at Cronulla
James Maloney, Michael Ennis, Andrew Fifita, Luke Lewis, Wade Graham, Ben Barba, Jack Bird, Chis Heighington.

Easy to say Tigers missed out on all those players however how many did Tigers actually put in a legit offer for?

If we didn't put an offer in isn't that worse? Means we're not trying to sign anyone.

 

[twentyforty]

Paul Kent article is right something is not right at the club and it may not be just Madge.
We put in late offers for tpj and finucance I mean make your mind up guys we look like amateur hour we either want these players or we do not.
As for tpj we are in the race then withdraw then back in again.
I like Hartigan but something doesn't make sense between Hartigan Pascoe Madge and recruitment.

If you refer back to the Pom’s “to say they are divided on Pangai is an understatement “ you get a little insight into the left hand doesn’t know what the right hand is doing behaviour. The 3 heavy hitters weren’t riding a camel but they may as well have been riding a donkey and come back next month. 😂
During a 3 week period we find out the club never offered him a contract and were moving in a different direction, only to find that different direction had changed to another different direction and contract offering.? Seems like nobody at the club has areas of responsibility, doesn’t surprise me that the footy team is the same. 😂
How is it possible to expect the magic to happen on the park? 😂

 

[jirskyr]

we are not a very well run club and can’t even get our offers in smoothly. If it was not true then people like Woodford would not mention it and we have seen it with tpj and finucane.

You don't know any of this to be true. You can have your opinions, fine, but stop asserting that things are true because someone made a comment in the paper.

What does Simon Woolford know about anything? When is the last time someone went to Simon Woolford to ask his opinion? Next they'll start asking Alan Tongue, but at least Alan Tongue is respectable.

 

[avocadoontoast]

we are not a very well run club and can’t even get our offers in smoothly. If it was not true then people like Woodford would not mention it and we have seen it with tpj and finucane.

You don't know any of this to be true. You can have your opinions, fine, but stop asserting that things are true because someone made a comment in the paper.

What does Simon Woolford know about anything? When is the last time someone went to Simon Woolford to ask his opinion? Next they'll start asking Alan Tongue, but at least Alan Tongue is respectable.

Do you think we are a well run club?

 

[weststigerman]

Buzz: Pressure builds on Wests Tigers’ Michael Maguire as Shane Flanagan waits for coaching shot
Shane Flanagan has a proven track record of producing what the Wests Tigers are critically lacking. When will the club bite the bullet and make a change, asks PHIL ROTHFIELD.
The Wests Tigers have missed out on yet another big-name signing opportunity, placing further pressure on the board to sack coach Michael Maguire.
On Sunday morning Storm forward Dale Finucane joined the likes of Latrell Mitchell, Tevita Pangai Junior, Josh Addo-Carr, Jai Arrow, AJ Brimson, Matt Moylan and Joseph Suaalii in rejecting lucrative offers from the struggling club in the last 18 months.
And they’re only the ones we’ve heard about.
Even Canterbury, who have hopelessly struggled in recent years, have been able to snare Matt Burton, Pangai Junior, probably Paul Vaughan, Addo-Carr, Luke Thompson (who almost every club chased) and Nick Cotric while he was a NSW and Australian player.
But no-one wants to go to the Wests Tigers.
There is even a senior official at the Wests Tigers who has been ringing around player managers in recent weeks to ask: “Is it Madge?”
Latrell Mitchell could have pocketed an extra $1.2 million by signing to play for Maguire instead of Wayne Bennett at the South Sydney Rabbitohs.
Souths offered him $800,000 for one year, the Wests Tigers $1.2 million per season for three years.
That is a huge monetary sacrifice.

The Finucane story is similar. He has taken an average of around $650,000 a year from the Sharks but could have got $800,000 a year from the Wests Tigers.
This has become a huge issue for the club on top of another season of terrible results.
In the last five weeks this team has now conceded 212 points at an average of 42.4 per game.
They can’t just wait for old four-time premiership winning coach Tim Sheens, who has been out of the NRL for 10 years, to come in and fix things.
They can’t just wait to find the next James Tedesco out of Campbelltown.
The Wests Tigers’ board has a huge decision to make.
Do they stick with Maguire or find a coach with a proven track record of building a premiership-winning side.
The Cronulla Sharks were in a similar position to the Wests Tigers when Shane Flanagan started a roster rebuild that would lead them to the 2016 premiership win.
He got James Maloney from the Roosters, Andrew Fifita, Beau Ryan and Chris Heighington from the Wests Tigers.
He got Luke Lewis and Wade Graham from the Penrith Panthers. Ben Barba from the Canterbury Bulldogs, Jack Bird from St George-Illawarra and perhaps the most important signing of all, Mick Ennis from the Bulldogs.
Equal credit for the recruitment should go to skipper Paul Gallen, who was the NSW captain at the time and so many players in the NRL wanted to play in his team.
Flanagan is about to become available for another head coaching job.
He has made some well documented mistakes.
None more so than hiring people on his high performance staff at the Sharks who injected peptides into his players.
Rightly or wrongly, there are still clubs concerned about his image, all these years later.
However it’s got to a stage for a club like the Wests Tigers where they have no choice.
It’s obvious they will not improve with their current roster – or their current coach.
THE SIGNS ARE THERE
Players Michael Maguire has missed at Wests Tigers
Dale Finucane, Latrell Mitchell, Tevita Pangai Junior, Josh Addo-Carr, Jai Arrow, A J Brimson, Matt Moylan
Players Shane Flanagan signed at Cronulla
James Maloney, Michael Ennis, Andrew Fifita, Luke Lewis, Wade Graham, Ben Barba, Jack Bird, Chis Heighington.

Easy to say Tigers missed out on all those players however how many did Tigers actually put in a legit offer for?

If we didn't put an offer in isn't that worse? Means we're not trying to sign anyone.

It means we might actually have a plan. A last minute offer out of nowhere does not look good. Hopefully it's not true.

 

[Devon Head]

Buzz: Pressure builds on Wests Tigers’ Michael Maguire as Shane Flanagan waits for coaching shot
Shane Flanagan has a proven track record of producing what the Wests Tigers are critically lacking. When will the club bite the bullet and make a change, asks PHIL ROTHFIELD.
The Wests Tigers have missed out on yet another big-name signing opportunity, placing further pressure on the board to sack coach Michael Maguire.
On Sunday morning Storm forward Dale Finucane joined the likes of Latrell Mitchell, Tevita Pangai Junior, Josh Addo-Carr, Jai Arrow, AJ Brimson, Matt Moylan and Joseph Suaalii in rejecting lucrative offers from the struggling club in the last 18 months.
And they’re only the ones we’ve heard about.
Even Canterbury, who have hopelessly struggled in recent years, have been able to snare Matt Burton, Pangai Junior, probably Paul Vaughan, Addo-Carr, Luke Thompson (who almost every club chased) and Nick Cotric while he was a NSW and Australian player.
But no-one wants to go to the Wests Tigers.
There is even a senior official at the Wests Tigers who has been ringing around player managers in recent weeks to ask: “Is it Madge?”
Latrell Mitchell could have pocketed an extra $1.2 million by signing to play for Maguire instead of Wayne Bennett at the South Sydney Rabbitohs.
Souths offered him $800,000 for one year, the Wests Tigers $1.2 million per season for three years.
That is a huge monetary sacrifice.

The Finucane story is similar. He has taken an average of around $650,000 a year from the Sharks but could have got $800,000 a year from the Wests Tigers.
This has become a huge issue for the club on top of another season of terrible results.
In the last five weeks this team has now conceded 212 points at an average of 42.4 per game.
They can’t just wait for old four-time premiership winning coach Tim Sheens, who has been out of the NRL for 10 years, to come in and fix things.
They can’t just wait to find the next James Tedesco out of Campbelltown.
The Wests Tigers’ board has a huge decision to make.
Do they stick with Maguire or find a coach with a proven track record of building a premiership-winning side.
The Cronulla Sharks were in a similar position to the Wests Tigers when Shane Flanagan started a roster rebuild that would lead them to the 2016 premiership win.
He got James Maloney from the Roosters, Andrew Fifita, Beau Ryan and Chris Heighington from the Wests Tigers.
He got Luke Lewis and Wade Graham from the Penrith Panthers. Ben Barba from the Canterbury Bulldogs, Jack Bird from St George-Illawarra and perhaps the most important signing of all, Mick Ennis from the Bulldogs.
Equal credit for the recruitment should go to skipper Paul Gallen, who was the NSW captain at the time and so many players in the NRL wanted to play in his team.
Flanagan is about to become available for another head coaching job.
He has made some well documented mistakes.
None more so than hiring people on his high performance staff at the Sharks who injected peptides into his players.
Rightly or wrongly, there are still clubs concerned about his image, all these years later.
However it’s got to a stage for a club like the Wests Tigers where they have no choice.
It’s obvious they will not improve with their current roster – or their current coach.
THE SIGNS ARE THERE
Players Michael Maguire has missed at Wests Tigers
Dale Finucane, Latrell Mitchell, Tevita Pangai Junior, Josh Addo-Carr, Jai Arrow, A J Brimson, Matt Moylan
Players Shane Flanagan signed at Cronulla
James Maloney, Michael Ennis, Andrew Fifita, Luke Lewis, Wade Graham, Ben Barba, Jack Bird, Chis Heighington.

Easy to say Tigers missed out on all those players however how many did Tigers actually put in a legit offer for?

If we didn't put an offer in isn't that worse? Means we're not trying to sign anyone.

Moylan is piss, injury prone overrated hack. Finucane for 4yrs when he's a middle forward at 30yrs old is also a silly signing. If it was few 2 or 3yrs with options in favour of club then maybe. Latrell, Brimson and JAC definitely would have been great pick ups though I believe JAC was probably the only likely one of two. TPJ and Arrow have question marks about the sort of blokes they are off the field however certainly would have improved the Tigers on it.

After years of over inflated signings the Tigers can't afford to pay massive overs anymore. It will no doubt mean they miss out on a few blokes and it will no doubt mean journos labelling us unable to sign anyone because we are a basket case.

 

[avocadoontoast]

Moylan is piss, injury prone overrated hack. Finucane for 4yrs when he’s a middle forward at 30yrs old is also a silly signing.

Yep, makes you wonder why we tried to sign them..

 

[jirskyr]

we are not a very well run club and can’t even get our offers in smoothly. If it was not true then people like Woodford would not mention it and we have seen it with tpj and finucane.

You don't know any of this to be true. You can have your opinions, fine, but stop asserting that things are true because someone made a comment in the paper.

What does Simon Woolford know about anything? When is the last time someone went to Simon Woolford to ask his opinion? Next they'll start asking Alan Tongue, but at least Alan Tongue is respectable.

Do you think we are a well run club?

I don't claim to know. The football results aren't there, but I don't know if that reflects on how well Tigers are "run".

For example Broncos are, by many attributes, a very successful enterprise, even in 2021. They are one of the most profitable, sponsored and supported clubs in Australia, in any code. Can't win footy games however.

Bulldogs and Sharks are/were shambles, but their recruitment is OK. Bulldogs had to overhaul their board several times and still can't get themselves off the rock bottom of the ladder despite some high-profile recruiting. I personally think Bulldogs signings are all slapshot and failing to address the actual weaknesses of their roster - the reliable go-forward, the spine, the juniors.

Sharks, for another example, cheated the cap systematically for years, have the largest club-driven performance-enhancers ban in Australian club history, had their head coach suspended and then accidentally revealed his non-compliance, leading to a long-term ban. They have been in financial turmoil for many seasons, sustainability provisioned on sale of apartments. Their former chairman was arrested for cocaine possession. They move on their coach despite a 100% finals-making record. Are Sharks a "well run" club?

Sometimes I think being "well run" or "not well run" doesn't necessarily make that much of a difference to on-field success if you have the right mix of footballers and a decent coach.

And I think after 10 years without finals, with a very wide variety of different persons employed to key roles, it can't be as simple as "badly run".

 

[jirskyr]

Buzz: Pressure builds on Wests Tigers’ Michael Maguire as Shane Flanagan waits for coaching shot
Shane Flanagan has a proven track record of producing what the Wests Tigers are critically lacking. When will the club bite the bullet and make a change, asks PHIL ROTHFIELD.
The Wests Tigers have missed out on yet another big-name signing opportunity, placing further pressure on the board to sack coach Michael Maguire.
On Sunday morning Storm forward Dale Finucane joined the likes of Latrell Mitchell, Tevita Pangai Junior, Josh Addo-Carr, Jai Arrow, AJ Brimson, Matt Moylan and Joseph Suaalii in rejecting lucrative offers from the struggling club in the last 18 months.
And they’re only the ones we’ve heard about.
Even Canterbury, who have hopelessly struggled in recent years, have been able to snare Matt Burton, Pangai Junior, probably Paul Vaughan, Addo-Carr, Luke Thompson (who almost every club chased) and Nick Cotric while he was a NSW and Australian player.
But no-one wants to go to the Wests Tigers.
There is even a senior official at the Wests Tigers who has been ringing around player managers in recent weeks to ask: “Is it Madge?”
Latrell Mitchell could have pocketed an extra $1.2 million by signing to play for Maguire instead of Wayne Bennett at the South Sydney Rabbitohs.
Souths offered him $800,000 for one year, the Wests Tigers $1.2 million per season for three years.
That is a huge monetary sacrifice.

The Finucane story is similar. He has taken an average of around $650,000 a year from the Sharks but could have got $800,000 a year from the Wests Tigers.
This has become a huge issue for the club on top of another season of terrible results.
In the last five weeks this team has now conceded 212 points at an average of 42.4 per game.
They can’t just wait for old four-time premiership winning coach Tim Sheens, who has been out of the NRL for 10 years, to come in and fix things.
They can’t just wait to find the next James Tedesco out of Campbelltown.
The Wests Tigers’ board has a huge decision to make.
Do they stick with Maguire or find a coach with a proven track record of building a premiership-winning side.
The Cronulla Sharks were in a similar position to the Wests Tigers when Shane Flanagan started a roster rebuild that would lead them to the 2016 premiership win.
He got James Maloney from the Roosters, Andrew Fifita, Beau Ryan and Chris Heighington from the Wests Tigers.
He got Luke Lewis and Wade Graham from the Penrith Panthers. Ben Barba from the Canterbury Bulldogs, Jack Bird from St George-Illawarra and perhaps the most important signing of all, Mick Ennis from the Bulldogs.
Equal credit for the recruitment should go to skipper Paul Gallen, who was the NSW captain at the time and so many players in the NRL wanted to play in his team.
Flanagan is about to become available for another head coaching job.
He has made some well documented mistakes.
None more so than hiring people on his high performance staff at the Sharks who injected peptides into his players.
Rightly or wrongly, there are still clubs concerned about his image, all these years later.
However it’s got to a stage for a club like the Wests Tigers where they have no choice.
It’s obvious they will not improve with their current roster – or their current coach.
THE SIGNS ARE THERE
Players Michael Maguire has missed at Wests Tigers
Dale Finucane, Latrell Mitchell, Tevita Pangai Junior, Josh Addo-Carr, Jai Arrow, A J Brimson, Matt Moylan
Players Shane Flanagan signed at Cronulla
James Maloney, Michael Ennis, Andrew Fifita, Luke Lewis, Wade Graham, Ben Barba, Jack Bird, Chis Heighington.

Easy to say Tigers missed out on all those players however how many did Tigers actually put in a legit offer for?

If we didn't put an offer in isn't that worse? Means we're not trying to sign anyone.

It means we might actually have a plan. A last minute offer out of nowhere does not look good. Hopefully it's not true.

The paper is reporting that Sharks made their offer to Finucane at the same time as Tigers did. I don't think it matters how late or early you are, it's the value of the deal.

 

[BAGNF05]

Paul Kent article is right something is not right at the club and it may not be just Madge.
We put in late offers for tpj and finucance I mean make your mind up guys we look like amateur hour we either want these players or we do not.
As for tpj we are in the race then withdraw then back in again.
I like Hartigan but something doesn't make sense between Hartigan Pascoe Madge and recruitment.


If you refer back to the Pom’s “to say they are divided on Pangai is an understatement “ you get a little insight into the left hand doesn’t know what the right hand is doing behaviour. The 3 heavy hitters weren’t riding a camel but they may as well have been riding a donkey and come back next month. ?
During a 3 week period we find out the club never offered him a contract and were moving in a different direction, only to find that different direction had changed to another different direction and contract offering.? Seems like nobody at the club has areas of responsibility, doesn’t surprise me that the footy team is the same. ?
How is it possible to expect the magic to happen on the park? ?

Maybe try our edge defenders in the office and the office workers on the right edge.?

 

[TigerWest]

we are not a very well run club and can’t even get our offers in smoothly. If it was not true then people like Woodford would not mention it and we have seen it with tpj and finucane.

You don't know any of this to be true. You can have your opinions, fine, but stop asserting that things are true because someone made a comment in the paper.

What does Simon Woolford know about anything? When is the last time someone went to Simon Woolford to ask his opinion? Next they'll start asking Alan Tongue, but at least Alan Tongue is respectable.

Do you think we are a well run club?

Shouldn't we know the truth of what has actually happened, before we make that decision, or do we just go with the current Wagga Kangaroos coach (I believe) assertions (if he did actually make them)?

BTW, not returning someone's call, if it did happen, (is not good) but it's hardly the tipping point to say we are not a very well run club?

 

[avocadoontoast]

we are not a very well run club and can’t even get our offers in smoothly. If it was not true then people like Woodford would not mention it and we have seen it with tpj and finucane.

You don't know any of this to be true. You can have your opinions, fine, but stop asserting that things are true because someone made a comment in the paper.

What does Simon Woolford know about anything? When is the last time someone went to Simon Woolford to ask his opinion? Next they'll start asking Alan Tongue, but at least Alan Tongue is respectable.

Do you think we are a well run club?

Shouldn't we know the truth of what has actually happened, before we make that decision, or do we just go with the current Wagga Kangaroos coach (I believe) assertions (if he did actually make them)?

BTW, not returning someone's call, if it did happen, (is not good) but it's hardly the tipping point to say we are not a very well run club?

I think it would be very very hard to convince anyone that's not a rusted on WT supporter that we are a well run club.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

we are not a very well run club and can’t even get our offers in smoothly. If it was not true then people like Woodford would not mention it and we have seen it with tpj and finucane.

You don't know any of this to be true. You can have your opinions, fine, but stop asserting that things are true because someone made a comment in the paper.

What does Simon Woolford know about anything? When is the last time someone went to Simon Woolford to ask his opinion? Next they'll start asking Alan Tongue, but at least Alan Tongue is respectable.

you are always pro the club the club can do no wrong
we made an offer at the death to Dale finucane, woolford is just giving his opinion he is allowed to state what has happened to him
you do not know it is not true

 

[twentyforty]

we are not a very well run club and can’t even get our offers in smoothly. If it was not true then people like Woodford would not mention it and we have seen it with tpj and finucane.

You don't know any of this to be true. You can have your opinions, fine, but stop asserting that things are true because someone made a comment in the paper.

What does Simon Woolford know about anything? When is the last time someone went to Simon Woolford to ask his opinion? Next they'll start asking Alan Tongue, but at least Alan Tongue is respectable.

Do you think we are a well run club?

Many posters here obviously see no need for improvement in the club. They don’t see past what happens on the park and oddly want the coach sacked and one of the team’s best players sacked, thinking this will be the magic wand which delivers a top 8 birth.
The two most successful coaches in Robinson and Bennett can’t be off the mark surely. We missed out on signing both, we also missed out on signing Bellamy.
Players and their managers are clever enough to deal with factual information. WT need to develop their story from the ground up.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

we are not a very well run club and can’t even get our offers in smoothly. If it was not true then people like Woodford would not mention it and we have seen it with tpj and finucane.

You don't know any of this to be true. You can have your opinions, fine, but stop asserting that things are true because someone made a comment in the paper.

What does Simon Woolford know about anything? When is the last time someone went to Simon Woolford to ask his opinion? Next they'll start asking Alan Tongue, but at least Alan Tongue is respectable.

Do you think we are a well run club?

Jirsky seems to think so

 

[Telltails]

I only believe stories from "unnamed sources" these days that bloke knows every thing.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

we are not a very well run club and can’t even get our offers in smoothly. If it was not true then people like Woodford would not mention it and we have seen it with tpj and finucane.

You don't know any of this to be true. You can have your opinions, fine, but stop asserting that things are true because someone made a comment in the paper.

What does Simon Woolford know about anything? When is the last time someone went to Simon Woolford to ask his opinion? Next they'll start asking Alan Tongue, but at least Alan Tongue is respectable.

Do you think we are a well run club?


Many posters here obviously see no need for improvement in the club. They don’t see past what happens on the park and oddly want the coach sacked and one of the team’s best players sacked, thinking this will be the magic wand which delivers a top 8 birth.
The two most successful coaches in Robinson and Bennett can’t be off the mark surely. We missed out on signing both, we also missed out on signing Bellamy.
Players and their managers are clever enough to deal with factual information. WT need to develop their story from the ground up.

exactly if the club is going to BS then get the story straight

 

[TigerWest]

we are not a very well run club and can’t even get our offers in smoothly. If it was not true then people like Woodford would not mention it and we have seen it with tpj and finucane.

You don't know any of this to be true. You can have your opinions, fine, but stop asserting that things are true because someone made a comment in the paper.

What does Simon Woolford know about anything? When is the last time someone went to Simon Woolford to ask his opinion? Next they'll start asking Alan Tongue, but at least Alan Tongue is respectable.

Do you think we are a well run club?

Shouldn't we know the truth of what has actually happened, before we make that decision, or do we just go with the current Wagga Kangaroos coach (I believe) assertions (if he did actually make them)?

BTW, not returning someone's call, if it did happen, (is not good) but it's hardly the tipping point to say we are not a very well run club?

I think it would be very very hard to convince anyone that's not a rusted on WT supporter that we are a well run club.

Of course I'm a firm supporter of the club, I think the club is heading in the right direction, but I just don't choose to believe things, unless there is clear evidence.

I am not up to date with all that happened here, but has it been confirmed that the Twitter post as in fact from Simon Woolford?