Rumour: Tigers have two secret meetings with Ivan Cleary

[Tiger_Watto]

Well if Cleary is in the Club's plans, it will be the best signing we have made in a long time.

You're hypothesising here simply because you don't like Taylor.

I have a high regard for Cleary both as a coach and as a human being. A smart operator who presents and speaks very well. He also appears to have good way with the players and is the type of figure who would attract good players to the Club. Supporters of the Eagles and Roosters have very good things to say about Cleary. The same cannot be said of Taylor.

What are your thoughts of Phil Gould?

He reckons Cleary can't coach.

 

[underdog]

I don't mind our club talking to Cleary.

I'm a supporter of Taylor, however signing Cleary as an assistant coach to keep him on his toes wouldn't be the worst decision our team has made.

Competition for spots is what it's all about isn't it?

 

[Basil_Tiger]

What are your thoughts of Phil Gould?

He reckons Cleary can't coach.

He sang his praises for a long time but obviously they have had a falling out this year,Gould,from what i can gather,is very loyal to his employees & players(& Friends?) but when he turns,for whatever reason,your gone.
Supported Ricky Stuart way past his use-by date but eventually Politis stepped in.

 

[bobo125]

Well if Cleary is in the Club's plans, it will be the best signing we have made in a long time.

You're hypothesising here simply because you don't like Taylor.

I have a high regard for Cleary both as a coach and as a human being. A smart operator who presents and speaks very well. He also appears to have good way with the players and is the type of figure who would attract good players to the Club. Supporters of the Eagles and Roosters have very good things to say about Cleary. The same cannot be said of Taylor.

What are your thoughts of Phil Gould?

He reckons Cleary can't coach.

thats blatant crap.

gould is a very smart operator. he realised that the injury toll on the panthers had completely drained the coach.
when you are losing because you cannot field even 50% of your top team, thats a hard hurdle.
after months of working through it, Gould realised it was time for a fresh start again.
he could not expect to get the best out of someone who had been emotionally worn down and thats what it was about.
hes been around enough to know when good player managers are tired … worn out..... they cannot inspire success.

 

[boonboon]

He missed the finals 3 years out of 4 at Penrith with a club with money and that wasn't divided. Yes they had lots of injuries but so did we and then JT took over and fixed that last year.

 

[magpiecol]

Well if Cleary is in the Club's plans, it will be the best signing we have made in a long time.

You're hypothesising here simply because you don't like Taylor.

I have a high regard for Cleary both as a coach and as a human being. A smart operator who presents and speaks very well. He also appears to have good way with the players and is the type of figure who would attract good players to the Club. Supporters of the Eagles and Roosters have very good things to say about Cleary. The same cannot be said of Taylor.

I am going to keep a copy of this for future reference pandc.

 

[Curaeus]

Wonder if Griffin has worked out yet that he actually has no authority/autonomy at the Pennies and that anything of significance has to be approved by Gould. Might be one of the reasons-Cleary and the former Supercoach fell out

 

[rialto]

Well if Cleary is in the Club's plans, it will be the best signing we have made in a long time.

You're hypothesising here simply because you don't like Taylor.

I have a high regard for Cleary both as a coach and as a human being. A smart operator who presents and speaks very well. He also appears to have good way with the players and is the type of figure who would attract good players to the Club. Supporters of the Eagles and Roosters have very good things to say about Cleary. The same cannot be said of Taylor.

RUBBISH!
ROOSTERS COACH HAD GREAT THINGS TO SAY ABOUT TAYLOR AS DID SOUTHS AND PARRA SUPPORTERS WHEN HE COACHED THEM TO THE FINALS FROM ROCK BOTTOM! Have nothing against Cleary and feel sorry for him being so totally worn out at Penrith but Taylor has been given the task of changing the culture and direction of WT and we should be supporting him.

 

[Pawsandclaws]

Well if Cleary is in the Club's plans, it will be the best signing we have made in a long time.

You're hypothesising here simply because you don't like Taylor.

I have a high regard for Cleary both as a coach and as a human being. A smart operator who presents and speaks very well. He also appears to have good way with the players and is the type of figure who would attract good players to the Club. Supporters of the Eagles and Roosters have very good things to say about Cleary. The same cannot be said of Taylor.

What are your thoughts of Phil Gould?

He reckons Cleary can't coach.

That is not true as you have already been informed. I believe Greg Alexander suggested that Gould thought Cleary could not get anymore from the current squad of players after 4 years. Also that after 4 years and all the injuries, he was tired.

 

[Pawsandclaws]

Well if Cleary is in the Club's plans, it will be the best signing we have made in a long time.

You're hypothesising here simply because you don't like Taylor.

I have a high regard for Cleary both as a coach and as a human being. A smart operator who presents and speaks very well. He also appears to have good way with the players and is the type of figure who would attract good players to the Club. **Supporters of the Eagles and Roosters** have very good things to say about Cleary. The same cannot be said of Taylor.

RUBBISH!
ROOSTERS COACH HAD GREAT THINGS TO SAY ABOUT TAYLOR AS DID SOUTHS AND PARRA SUPPORTERS WHEN HE COACHED THEM TO THE FINALS FROM ROCK BOTTOM! Have nothing against Cleary and feel sorry for him being so totally worn out at Penrith but Taylor has been given the task of changing the culture and direction of WT and we should be supporting him.

Take in the bold section of what I wrote and then compare your caps answer.

 

[bobo125]

You're hypothesising here simply because you don't like Taylor.

I have a high regard for Cleary both as a coach and as a human being. A smart operator who presents and speaks very well. He also appears to have good way with the players and is the type of figure who would attract good players to the Club. Supporters of the Eagles and Roosters have very good things to say about Cleary. The same cannot be said of Taylor.

What are your thoughts of Phil Gould?

He reckons Cleary can't coach.

That is not true as you have already been informed. I believe Greg Alexander suggested that Gould thought Cleary could not get anymore from the current squad of players after 4 years. Also that after 4 years and all the injuries, he was tired.

yeah thats crap for sure !
The powers that be at penrith really believed, the toll of injuries, some of the dramas and pressures at the club meant it was time for a change.
Simply put, Cleary was mentally exhausted and fatigued.
in the state - no one could expect him to manage, lead and inspire his players.
And at this level, thats actually what its about.

teams have specialists coaches for the nitty gritty.
Johns at Manly for eg

As for JT, like i have said many many times,
im not doubting his footy brain.
I believe he could contribute quite well in a position as per his role at the roosters.
and from all reports - he did do a good job at the roosters.
but head coach - thats not a job everyone can do.
thats a particular personality type

as the old saying goes….. (something like)
all good soldiers do not make good captains.

 

[Tiger_Watto]

You're hypothesising here simply because you don't like Taylor.

I have a high regard for Cleary both as a coach and as a human being. A smart operator who presents and speaks very well. He also appears to have good way with the players and is the type of figure who would attract good players to the Club. Supporters of the Eagles and Roosters have very good things to say about Cleary. The same cannot be said of Taylor.

What are your thoughts of Phil Gould?

He reckons Cleary can't coach.

That is not true as you have already been informed. I believe Greg Alexander suggested that Gould thought Cleary could not get anymore from the current squad of players after 4 years. Also that after 4 years and all the injuries, he was tired.

Believe the speculation all you want, but in an era where quality coaches are scares, Gould gets rid of Cleary. :crazy

You don't sack good coaches, you only sack the ones you perceive can't coach!

 

[Tigermama]

What are your thoughts of Phil Gould?

He reckons Cleary can't coach.

He sang his praises for a long time but obviously they have had a falling out this year,Gould,from what i can gather,is very loyal to his employees & players(& Friends?) but when he turns,for whatever reason,your gone.
Supported Ricky Stuart way past his use-by date but eventually Politis stepped in.

I read somewhere that Gould was meddling with the coaching side of things and Cleary told him to back off and leave the coaching up to him.
Not sure if true or not.

 

[innsaneink]

Yep….people read too many newspapers

''Hes tired, hes drained'...LOL...how convenient, for a team that finished one game short of a GF only a year earlier...seriously some of you blokes are just spoon fed cowpat machines

Use your brains

 

[Geo]

I have a high regard for Cleary both as a coach and as a human being. A smart operator who presents and speaks very well. He also appears to have good way with the players and is the type of figure who would attract good players to the Club. Supporters of the Eagles and Roosters have very good things to say about Cleary. The same cannot be said of Taylor.

What are your thoughts of Phil Gould?

He reckons Cleary can't coach.

That is not true as you have already been informed. I believe Greg Alexander suggested that Gould thought Cleary could not get anymore from the current squad of players after 4 years. Also that after 4 years and all the injuries, he was tired.

Believe the speculation all you want, but in an era where quality coaches are scares, Gould gets rid of Cleary. :crazy

You don't sack good coaches, you only sack the ones you perceive can't coach!

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Ivan Cleary has hit back at Phil Gould's claims he was burnt out and needed a rest after he was sacked as Penrith's NRL coach. "I am still a bit shocked and disappointed," he said. "No, I'm not ready to throw it in."

Ivan's Mouth… http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-22/cleary-rejects-claims-by-gould-panthers-burnt-him-out/6876764

 

[Sabre]

I'm sure I heard somewhere that Cleary doesn't get along with Pascoe or Moss. Can't remember which.

 

[magpiecol]

Yep….people read too many newspapers

''Hes tired, hes drained'...LOL...how convenient, for a team that finished one game short of a GF only a year earlier...seriously some of you blokes are just spoon fed cowpat machines

Use your brains

No they would rather believe Twitter and Facebook than the official line from their own club.

Go figure.

 

[guyofthetiger]

Can't recall an offseason on here ever looking so bleak…

Worse still... Yawn...

 

[marzie]

Yep….people read too many newspapers

''Hes tired, hes drained'...LOL...how convenient, for a team that finished one game short of a GF only a year earlier...seriously some of you blokes are just spoon fed cowpat machines

Use your brains

No they would rather believe Twitter and Facebook than the official line from their own club.

Go figure.

Magpiecol jeez you are old school. How can you disregard information that comes directly from the player and player family on social medias? I've seen a tonne of credible info on Facebook and Twitter just like yesterdays where Hoeter's partner announced he has been released. Or when Tim Molztens sister congratulated him on the manly contract months before it was "official".

Instead you will wait for the statement from the club that will never come and refuse to believe anything else outside of official. I just think that in those cases it seems silly to attempt to refute them

 

[happy_tiger]

Great news all

We have also had meetings with the Easter Bunny ,Santa Claus , Jack Frost , Tooth Fairy and Geoff Toovey

Turns out Jason Taylor has been a good boy and will get want he asked for Xmas

Season Greetings all