Sack Marshall

I would be shocked if they didn’t give Benji a season with Luai at the helm. I still don’t think that saves him I don’t think he’s got it this absolute crap about not being disturbed between certain hours was alarm bells before a ball was kicked.
If you think you can structure anything like that as a FG coach you’re delusional and then there was Fiji.
What I think should happen with Benji is he should look within himself and realise he’s no where near ready yet and step back as an assistant with no time expectation on when he takes over. Otherwise I see his coaching career being over before it begins. Get Arthur in or someone much more experienced that isn’t Sheens to show him the ropes, he thinks he know it all I think that’s part of the problem.
Yep 100%. Benji for me has no accountability and no driving of standards. He seems to be happy with mediocrity, and cliches like "they worked so hard" or blaming the refs before criticising the boys fairly. Ciraldo was accountable last year when dogs were struggling, and look at him now. Benji won't be the same because he's not taking the positives out of losses for future improvement, but to make himself feel better about a job he was never ready to take in the first place
 
I suppose your pessimism knows no bounds. Maybe we should just nuke the whole club since everyone is responsible for the shitshow that has occurred, CAUSED by people who were there before. It's a job none of the top coaches would take now (Ivan took it before we got really bad). Any ideas on who should be coach?
Benji has to remain, we can’t keep sacking head coaches.
His assistants though? All gotta go.
 
Benji has to remain, we can’t keep sacking head coaches.
His assistants though? All gotta go.
Which assistant coaches would you put around benji? I think the issue is benji. I don't agree with how we have sacked coaches in the past, but benji is inept as a coach at this point in time. The experiment needs to end before it gets worse
 
I doubt very much Benji will be sacked until at least next season is finished, or maybe halfway next season if we don’t start off well next year. The club has put itself in a tough situation, should Benji have been appointed coach? Most likely not but that was done before the new admin came in and really it wouldn’t have been fair to judge Benji before a ball came into play. Plus there really wasn’t anyone available to take over from him before the season started.

Ultimately the decision of sacking Sheens and giving Benji the job before the apprenticeship (if you want to call it that) was up, was what in the end cost them their jobs for the inability to stick to a plan. When Richo came in he made it clear he is going to be different than the previous admin. If Benji gets sacked after this year, the media will be all over Richo and the club, and ultimately they’ll say different admin, same problems of not sticking to a plan and will make the club look even more worse then it already is. I doubt not many candidates will come forward to coach knowing if they don’t get the club finals bound in their first year, they’ll be out of a job.

Benji needs at least next year to be given a fair chance. Not many NRL coaches have been sacked after their first season in recent years. Sheens was the first in a long time. Do I think Benji can do it? Most likely not, but we won’t have any chance of change if the new admin decide to act like the old and bring in someone else after one season. Like I said, not many will put their hands up knowing they won’t last if they fail after one season.
 
I doubt very much Benji will be sacked until at least next season is finished, or maybe halfway next season if we don’t start off well next year. The club has put itself in a tough situation, should Benji have been appointed coach? Most likely not but that was done before the new admin came in and really it wouldn’t have been fair to judge Benji before a ball came into play. Plus there really wasn’t anyone available to take over from him before the season started.

Ultimately the decision of sacking Sheens and giving Benji the job before the apprenticeship (if you want to call it that) was up, was what in the end cost them their jobs for the inability to stick to a plan. When Richo came in he made it clear he is going to be different than the previous admin. If Benji gets sacked after this year, the media will be all over Richo and the club, and ultimately they’ll say different admin, same problems of not sticking to a plan and will make the club look even more worse then it already is. I doubt not many candidates will come forward to coach knowing if they don’t get the club finals bound in their first year, they’ll be out of a job.

Benji needs at least next year to be given a fair chance. Not many NRL coaches have been sacked after their first season in recent years. Sheens was the first in a long time. Do I think Benji can do it? Most likely not, but we won’t have any chance of change if the new admin decide to act like the old and bring in someone else after one season. Like I said, not many will put their hands up knowing they won’t last if they fail after one season.
The new administration will not be criticised if they act in the interest of the club and remove the coaching team after such an abysmal failure. The consideration of sponsors must be taken into account as Brydens are done at season's end. Who wants to be a major sponsor of a 3 peat wooden spooner ?
 
The new administration will not be criticised if they act in the interest of the club and remove the coaching team after such an abysmal failure. The consideration of sponsors must be taken into account as Brydens are done at season's end. Who wants to be a major sponsor of a 3 peat wooden spooner ?
Asking a honest question here… do you really think it’s in the best interests of the club to sack yet another coach? or is it in the best interest of the club to equip the current coach with the tools necessary to succeed. Isn’t it in the best interest of the club to finally let a head coach see out his vision & build the roster he wants?
 
Changing coaches on the regular is how we got the smorgasbord of player types we have now.

Some form of stability is needed- let a coach implement their style & their roster.
Perfect time this year as Benji does not have a roster of players he has brought in. Luai and Turuva can work with any coach that may take over. They are very good players already.
 
The new administration will not be criticised if they act in the interest of the club and remove the coaching team after such an abysmal failure. The consideration of sponsors must be taken into account as Brydens are done at season's end. Who wants to be a major sponsor of a 3 peat wooden spooner ?
Yes they will be criticised especially after Richo admitted to the media that they’ll be no sackings after one season in one of the first press conferences he did after taking over. The only way they could have saved face is if Benji went the whole season without a win. Getting the spoon for a 3rd year while painful, they’ll talk more of sacking another coach to put us more into a bad light. They’ll ask why sack another coach and make the same decisions he criticised the previous admin of making? Unless Benji resigns himself, I don’t see another head coach coming in for next year. Besides not many are gonna want to come knowing after one season they’ll be sacked if they don’t make finals.
 
Perfect time this year as Benji does not have a roster of players he has brought in. Luai and Turuva can work with any coach that may take over. They are very good players already.
Perfect time to double down on the investment as well.

If the 'vision' Benji & Richo have is aligned, don't change it. Add pieces to enhance it.

Year 1 we had Robbie, Morris & Heighno.

Bring in an Anthony Griffin to replace Farah- more experience, knowledge of developing players.

Add more talents that, like Luai & Turuva, would be good in any coaches system.

Then double down on bringing the likes of Lualili'i, Bula, Makasini, Fainu etc through the ranks.

If you're going to invest in something- INVEST. Don't dabble & then toss it out if it's not right immediately.
 
The last time we talked about the importance of stability here was in regards to management. That just resulted in a decade of shit management.
It was a horrendous decision to give benji the role, letting it continue would be even worse.
He's only in the role because he was a great tigers player. This needs to end.
 
Perfect time to double down on the investment as well.

If the 'vision' Benji & Richo have is aligned, don't change it. Add pieces to enhance it.

Year 1 we had Robbie, Morris & Heighno.

Bring in an Anthony Griffin to replace Farah- more experience, knowledge of developing players.

Add more talents that, like Luai & Turuva, would be good in any coaches system.

Then double down on bringing the likes of Lualili'i, Bula, Makasini, Fainu etc through the ranks.

If you're going to invest in something- INVEST. Don't dabble & then toss it out if it's not right immediately.
Some things just aren't right from the start. Like foundations to a house. We got it wrong with Benji and we just can't pin our hopes on an unproven coach to get the club off the bottom.
I would be happy for Hook to take over and have Benji as an assistant.
 
1 positive from Benji -is his mates in the media deflected a load bs that normally heads our way -if he n Richo can sell them kids the dream/we b onto something
 
Sacking Marshall now would be the last thing the club needs.

The squad is practically all kids, he hasn't shied away from dropping anyone (I'm looking at you Tim!) and everyone has known the whole time the plan is one of short term pain.

I was not a fan of the whole succession thing and didn't think he'd be a good coach. But tbh, I think he's actually doing well.

I think he deserves more than the one season he wasn't even meant to be head coach....

Just my opinion, but I don't even understand why anyone would think it a good idea.
 
Sacking Marshall now would be the last thing the club needs.

The squad is practically all kids, he hasn't shied away from dropping anyone (I'm looking at you Tim!) and everyone has known the whole time the plan is one of short term pain.

I was not a fan of the whole succession thing and didn't think he'd be a good coach. But tbh, I think he's actually doing well.

I think he deserves more than the one season he wasn't even meant to be head coach....

Just my opinion, but I don't even understand why anyone would think it a good idea.
We just cannot continue to think we are developing. We've been doing this for 13 years since our last finals appearance. We need to take whatever action is necessary to change this diabolical path. We need to take the similar approach of the dogs.
 
I don't think Benji has done a great job in a few areas but we have the worst squad in the comp and are currently coming last. We are at where we should be at based on the talent available. Honestly, some of the teams we have named this year - in no fault of the coach - have been shocking. IMO it would be mad to sack him anytime before towards the end of next season.

See how he goes next year, then make a more informed decision. It also gives Benji an off season to improve as well...It is his first year too...

Definetly put in an experienced assistant to replace Farah though. Ideally someone who has coached a first grade side before either in NRL or Super League.
 
We just cannot continue to think we are developing. We've been doing this for 13 years since our last finals appearance. We need to take whatever action is necessary to change this diabolical path. We need to take the similar approach of the dogs.
i thought Madge 1st broached the subject of developing?in the last 4 years our juniors have performed well,all the noise they love the club etc is just filtering thru now.its not the time for another coach yet
 
Which assistant coaches would you put around benji? I think the issue is benji. I don't agree with how we have sacked coaches in the past, but benji is inept as a coach at this point in time. The experiment needs to end before it gets worse
Madge, Sheens, Benji...it doesn't matter.

It's a catch 22. Players have short careers. They want to win and you need to be pretty tolerant to cop 3 years of coming last. We need to add more quality to get enough wins to ride out the youth development plan. I don't think any coach would get this lot winning because there are simply too many 18 and 19 year olds in the team.

Our roster is pretty bad and we have no depth. Backs actually look ok considering the acquisition of Luai and Turuva. Forwards are not competitive other than Api, Pole, Sam and Sione Fainu. Some of the kids we have are good, but they are 2 to 3 years away from NRL standard week in week out.

Once again, gotta add some decent recruits before turning on the coach.
 
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