Scott Fulton sacked

Snidest 0 said:
What nonsense!

Richo's remit is not to bring immediate on-field results - but to erdicate the "Brydens Tigers" culture and rejuvenate the Wesys Tigers corporate profile that was decimated by his predescessor and the 2 bob sponsor/Chairman who thought they were above the club!

This is not change for change sake - it is the absolutely necessary reinvention of a brand that hit rock bottom under those clowns!

With an INTERIM CEO who understands that football is our core business (NOT merchandising KPIs setc)!

He has been installed to set the club up for long term competitiveness IAW the recommendations of the independent review!

You gave Pascoe how many years???

But you want immediate success in half a season before you can grasp if Richo is a success???

FMD!!!
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Been on the piss mate?
Maybe have a bex and a good lie down.
I didn’t give Pascoe anything and if you read my post I said 6 months won’t be long enough to make any real change and I’d hope he get longer.
 
Snidest 0 said:
What a load of crap!!!

The CEO and Chair were incompetent!!!
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Try to keep up mate. Everyone knows the CEO and Chair were useless, but those who hired them were even more incompetent.
These ongoing sackings serve only to appease people who have little to no understanding of organisational behaviour. They’re an admission of incompetence. Try to think past the obvious?
 
twentyforty said:
Try to keep up mate. Everyone knows the CEO and Chair were useless, but those who hired them were even more incompetent.
These ongoing sackings serve only to appease people who have little to no understanding of organisational behaviour. They’re an admission of incompetence. Try to think past the obvious?
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Richo showed in one singular press conference what truly competent leadership is. And in doing so anyone who still thought Pascoe and co were doing okay went scurrying under the couch. He was hired as a Chief Executive Officer, called himself the Boss , and drove the club to rock bottom. In that position you don’t get to blame the higher ups.
 
GNR4LIFE said:
Sid was a pure myth. He didn’t play the bass on their record. Haven’t looked too deep into why he was even in the band, but he could barely play. Must have been PR.
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He had the look and was a well known fan as the very early punk scene evolved. Was also mates with Johnny Rotten and was put into the band when the real bass player, Glen Matlock left.
Usually did not have his bass even plugged in during shows.
Steve Jones recorded most of the bass on their album.
 
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Mods can you please close this rubbish thread? He's gone! Thank Christ and let's move on! Why give fuel for the media sharks to slaver over? Fair dinkum there's room for an open discussion but this thread is going into deranged territory.
 
Magpie_Magic said:
You might be right but I'm hoping not.

I'm guessing Richo doesn't know himself.

The six months thing is so he can set a good trajectory before new board is commissioned and he answers to them. Of course he is already answering to the HBG ownership and once the new directors are vetted and appointed no doubt there will be unofficial collaboration so everything is smooth.

But still there must be a formal process.

But I'm speculating that Richardson's tenure will depend on how much of a buzz he gets out of it and how much winning there is.

If he feels that there’s plenty of blue sky there might be a succession of six month contracts.

If not he may move on quickly.

If he moves on quickly we lose much of what he offers. He may put systems in place which is all good but his relationships with the media, players management and the professionalism he brings to football operations by his mere presence is gone.
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Richard's tenure will be directly related to the on field results.

If we come last again, he will leave. Ofcourse if the Saints beat us on the ladder with 1 halfback and half a team missing, we may be de-registered.

If were pretty asshole free and improve on the table (i.e. come above 10th.) then I can't imagine why most people wouldn't stay.
 
BAGNF05 said:
Richo showed in one singular press conference what truly competent leadership is. And in doing so anyone who still thought Pascoe and co were doing okay went scurrying under the couch. He was hired as a Chief Executive Officer, called himself the Boss , and drove the club to rock bottom. In that position you don’t get to blame the higher ups.
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No you don’t. One thing has always confused me, and that is why the club‘s job spec for many positions included “no experience neended.” It was not because experienced talented people weren’t available or keen to join the club, although that may have been the case on a few occasions? Inexperienced people are more easily managed, in the short term anyway. There was more than one person calling himself the boss. 😂 and we could all see why it wasn’t working.
 
twentyforty said:
No you don’t. One thing has always confused me, and that is why the club‘s job spec for many positions included “no experience neended.” It was not because experienced talented people weren’t available or keen to join the club, although that may have been the case on a few occasions? Inexperienced people are more easily managed, in the short term anyway. There was more than one person calling himself the boss. 😂 and we could all see why it wasn’t working.
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I had a look at a few of their job specs myself (when they actually decided they’d pay people) and they were horribly written including far too many responsibilities for any one individual. I think Richo will go in there and streamline the whole shebang.
 
BAGNF05 said:
I had a look at a few of their job specs myself (when they actually decided they’d pay people) and they were horribly written including far too many responsibilities for any one individual. I think Richo will go in there and streamline the whole shebang.
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I'm still trying to get my head around the Fulton appointment. Usually a job description including, areas of responsibility, regular tasks, occasional tasks, reports to position, positions reporting, communicates with, etc. are sorted and written. They need to know what needs to be done in order to achieve certain results. When the organisation knows these tasks and related responsibilities, they then usually write job specifications which outline the qualities/skills required to complete the assignment. The specs are like a profile of the person theyre looking for. So, the board had Lee and Pascoe do everything back to front based on a phone call from a player agent who essentially told them of at least 2 players who would be happy to sign on, providing they hired Fulton. Fulton was hired not knowing what his job was, other than what his agent told him and given those instructions, naturally he wasnt reporting to the head coach or anyone else in the footy department.
 
GCfan said:
Been on the piss mate?
Maybe have a bex and a good lie down.
I didn’t give Pascoe anything and if you read my post I said 6 months won’t be long enough to make any real change and I’d hope he get longer.
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"but I’ll reserve judgement on his success or otherwise until after half a season or so at least."

Just keep contradicting yourself petal....
 
Snidest 0 said:
"but I’ll reserve judgement on his success or otherwise until after half a season or so at least."

Just keep contradicting yourself petal....
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Did you read both of my posts?

And giving a different point of view Is fine as I’m not arrogant enough to think my opinion is right or the only one but you might benefit from giving your response with some respect or don’t bother replying, at least to my posts anyway.
 
twentyforty said:
I'm still trying to get my head around the Fulton appointment. Usually a job description including, areas of responsibility, regular tasks, occasional tasks, reports to position, positions reporting, communicates with, etc. are sorted and written. They need to know what needs to be done in order to achieve certain results. When the organisation knows these tasks and related responsibilities, they then usually write job specifications which outline the qualities/skills required to complete the assignment. The specs are like a profile of the person theyre looking for. So, the board had Lee and Pascoe do everything back to front based on a phone call from a player agent who essentially told them of at least 2 players who would be happy to sign on, providing they hired Fulton. Fulton was hired not knowing what his job was, other than what his agent told him and given those instructions, naturally he wasnt reporting to the head coach or anyone else in the footy department.
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I assume he was spending most of his time at the beach or the coffee shop when with us.
 
I listened to Peter Peters this morning - did his usual "know it all" segment, but was pretty restrained, if saying Wests Tigers and Dragons will fight out the wooden spoon.
Reiterated that Melbourne never let players they want to leave them - so questioned Olam coming here.
Did not go into the Fulton dismissal, although the program host tried to bring up the topic several times.
The usual try-to-be-sensational approach to sports radio.
 
BAGNF05 said:
I assume he was spending most of his time at the beach or the coffee shop when with us.
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Its weird right? They seem to waste all this money with poor decisions re HR because of their inability to work together, but somehow justify savings on travel costs, dencorub, bandages etc. and expect the team to work together?
Yet, there are those who say the players shouldnt be the least bit concerned with the backroom politics and BS?... LOL
 
twentyforty said:
It’s weird right? They seem to waste all this money with poor decisions re HR because of their inability to work together, but somehow justify savings on travel costs, dencorub, bandages etc. and expect the team to work together?
Yet, there are those who say the players shouldnt be the least bit concerned with the backroom politics and BS?... LOL
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A few pointed comments from Richo suggest to me ‘the times are a changing’.
 
I don’t think Fulton did too bad job at all.

He was recruited without the knowledge of Tim and Benji in the secret board meeting.

Lee and Co realised after a handful of rounds that the Sheens resurrection had backfired and instead of coming back from the dead, he was dragging us into the grave.

So tweak his tail and sack his recruitment mate and do it as underhandedly as possible. Tim was gone as a force and saviour at that point. Which proved to be the right decision, but given Lee and Justin helped cause the problem at first instance, that’s little comfort. Throwing a bucket of water on a burning house at that point.

Who could forget Tims “Brooks is wonderful” nonsense. We “improved” all the way to the spoon. A period of “ negative growth”

Before he got sacked, Lees interview about no one being guaranteed a job but things were improving. I wondered how many spoons we would need before we finished improving?!

And Tim slinking off back home to England. Just disappeared into a sink hole. Even the deadbeat Ivan texted the players goodbye. It’s the thought that counts I guess.

Looking ahead, I think Cogger was the better deal, especially long term. He finished last season on the high note Fulton predicted.

But all that said, Fulton imploded when he spoke to Zorba and the salad affair came to light. The inference of Benji getting a dollar from the deal was not ideal for club harmony. Talk about dirty laundry. Really nasty allegation for anyone. I have my usual Benji issues but I would not sink that low.

I think Fulton made a miscalculation, simply underestimated Benjis power and influence.

We need a recruiter, I like the dogs guy. He’s got a fair chunk of players but cc can’t get them motivated. What he’s done to Burto and Co, he should be arrested.

Anyway, Fulton is not worth dying on a hill for, but before he strayed out of his lane, he had a go. More importantly, he was a nice wad of kindling for the end of Lee and Co. Ironic that they appointed him, then again, they were so incompetent it’s perhaps unsurprising!
 
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I appreciate we are in a kind of an emergency junta thing at managerial level, and Im all behind it, but getting a full time professional recruiter is really important.

Keep Benj on the park training and Richo managing.

Otherwise there’s a chunk of time out.

Benji in particular needs almost all his focus on coaching as he’s still learning stuff. He’s only got so many hours in the day. He can’t be penning through Cows juniors looking for discount fringie.
 
Tiger Karen said:
I appreciate we are in a kind of an emergency junta thing at managerial level, and Im all behind it, but getting a full time professional recruiter is really important.

Keep Benj on the park training and Richo managing.

Otherwise there’s a chunk of time out.

Benji in particular needs almost all his focus on coaching as he’s still learning stuff. He’s only got so many hours in the day. He can’t be penning through Cows juniors looking for discount fringie.
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The club will have a number of recruiters on-the-ground in Sydney & perhaps elsewhere (at the Recruitment Officer level) and I reckon Matt Betsey will be doing a lot of the managerial recruitment work in his new role in conjunction with Richo & whoever the new CFO will be (all with Benji's input, approval & meeting players etc). That's how I see it atm.
 
BlackWhiteGold said:
The club will have a number of recruiters on-the-ground in Sydney & perhaps elsewhere (at the Recruitment Officer level) and I reckon Matt Betsey will be doing a lot of the managerial recruitment work in his new role in conjunction with Richo & whoever the new CFO will be (all with Benji's input, approval & meeting players etc). That's how I see it atm.
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Mmm, interesting, thanks.

It’s such a critical part of the operation.

Limited positions, limited funds and resources, enormous mathematical gymnastics to face and that’s before someone jumps in the car to heads off to an airport to meet a prospect.

Then the psychological challenge of convincing someone to join, their managers, family etc on occasion.

And you might have to push the envelope quite a bit to get them into shop.

If it’s a marquee under contract elsewhere, you may need lawyers and all kinds of Uber persuasive skills.

Not an easy assignment.
 
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