Shannon Gallant signs with NQ Cowboys

[clontarfkid]

Gallant has been very impressive in recent weeks(albeit against average opposition),& totally outplayed Bowen yesterday.
Seems to have all the attributes of a quality 1st grade full back to me,& importantly can sniff out a try & has the speed to finish it.
Cant understand whats missing(apart from a contract)?

 

[Balmain_Bug]

Tigh,

That is very true. If we sign Finch for example, then Gallant has no hope because Moltzen is favoured greatly by Sheens and is a genuine quality player. He will be pushed back to fullback I have no doubt. It will be a tragedy if we lose Gallant. I would even consider the following if Finch or another halfback is signed to play 1st grade,

7\. Finch or other 1st grade half
6\. Moltzen
5\. Tuiaki
4\. Marshall
3\. Ayshford
2\. Lawrence
1\. Gallant

 

[Mystery]

Shannon Gallant is not only the best fullback in the State Cup, he is one of the top 10 in the NRL.

He makes $20,000 a year. Pensioners make more than that.

He has a family to feed.

Martin Tauber is his manager. Martin is THE BEST in the business.

The way the Wests Tigers have treated Shannon is beyond a disgrace. He is a talented guy who is not in the click at the Wests Tigers and despite outstanding performances has never been allowed to have a **proper** shot.

I know for a fact that Tim Sheens wants him for 2010 but what role and how much they are willing to pay is up in the air and will probably be laughable.

How this guys is not in our top 25 and blokes with a 1/4 of his talent, passion and skill are, is beyond me.

There is one particular man in the WT organisation, and its not Sheens or Simmons, that for years has talked down Gallants ability and gotten into blokes ears and rubbished him behind his back. This man is directly responsible for Shannon's lack of opportunities and progression in that team because of his initial influence. That bloke should have been sacked years ago because his inabilities in his role have made him a laughing stock in the NRL. Unbeknown to the Sheens, this same man several weeks ago told Gallant not to go to Wests Tigers training again as they were not interested in him. Gallant was told to return to WT training by Sheens.

Does the place sound like a shmozzle ?? The answer is YES.

WT management, you are an absolute disgrace.

Im sorry mate bur ur a deadset jibberer that is the biggest load of dribble i have ever read to say that Gallant is something more than an average first grader is a flat out lie… The kid had a great game on Sunday but he does not have the class or size to compete in the NRL on a consistent basis... Also to say that Martin Tauber is the best in the business proves that you dont have much of an idea...

 

[Defiant]

Mystery he has been killing for years in the lower grade and done good in all but one first grade game.

imo we would be in the 8 already with Moltzen at half and Gallant at fb.

your opinion is well your opinion.

 

[tomcat]

Come on mystery,,your the one talking crap,,gallant has been on fire all year,and ive been to every magpies game this year,and he has been a stand out in every game,,he has saved so many tries,and set so many up..come on mystery or is it misery,,lol

 

[sargent]

After Gallant's performance on Sunday against the Cowboys I think it warrants him a fulltime contract as a wests tigers player if he doesn't get a contract for next year I don't know what he is doing wrong.

 

[Scotto]

Rubbish! Fair dinkum! Someone posts their thoughts and just because it differs to yours, you ridicule them and ridicule a fantastic young prospect in Lazarus. What makes your opinion so high an mighty….....

Gallant didn't impress me at all earlier on this season. Yesterday, he had a solid game. His best asset is his guts, determination and killer instinct. But to put Lazarus down when hasn't had an opportunity to show his stuff at NRL level shows your absolute bias......agaain :unamused:

A solid game? He had a great game. It is a pity that Lazarus is injured. I would love for him to be competing for this spot, but the facts are, he is not competing for this spot. Gallant is and in all the games he has played in 1st grade he has played very well in most of them. Lazarus has not achieved that yet which is why I am saying what I am saying. Gallant should be infront of Lazarus in the fullback stakes but I am not sure if he is in the eyes of the WT . Gallant saved and scored on the weekend. He was outstanding.

CT says he has seen Lazarus cut sides apart. So have I, but not in 1st grade. Apart from Hodgson, what fullback in WT history can do what Gallant does in attack?? The true and honest answer is NO ONE. NO WT fullback (aprt from Hodgo) has ever had the strike power of Gallant.

Its plain and simple.

That post, BB, I find hard to argue with!

That is very different from your original post with lazarus tying Gallants boots. All I ask is to keep it real. I am a Gallant supporter. I love the kid. He has more ticker than half our forward pack. But to say Lazarus can come and do up his boot laces is ridiculous. Your last post, however, makes sense. What I'd like to see is Gallant and Lazarus go head to head and fight for the position. We will be in good stead with these 2 fighting it out. However, don't be surprised to see Moltzen back at No.1\. I understand Sheens is not decided on where he wants Motlzen as yet, but he will be in the top 13\. **A lot will depend on whether we attract a genuine No.7**.

Not a big fan of that last line, who's to say Moltzen won't become exactly that? And how do you think we will pay for this genuine 7? With Marshall and Farah signed up on big dollars IMO what we need is someone exactly like Moltzen; young, keen, willing to have a go but most of all solid in the role, rather than another Parra reject because let's face it, who else is there?

As for Gallant, has had few opportunities and had arguably his best game so far on Sunday but some average (and one shocker) prior to that. He's got his chance, it will be up to him now, looking forward to seeing how he goes

 

[Staks]

Can't see how missing a couple of goals from out wide constitutes as having a shocker. I can't see how his form has varied at all in all his games he has played for the Wests Tigers. His game is one of backing up the middle, following the player makers and trying to cover up anything that comes his way at the back. Other than one missed bomb - how has he not achieved this in any of the games he has played in.

I haven't really said much about the Mouse in these topics as I really can't understand some people on these forums and how they come up with the views they have on players. At the start of this season a poll was conducted and if my memory is correct it was close to about 80% that wanted Gallant as fullback. Then when he got his chance people thought he didn't play well, I can't see how - the team should of really won both those games also. Some people then thought he wasn't up to NRL level and wanted someone else… so whats going to happen to your views the next time he '_supposedly_' has a poor game?

 

[system]

His support play was not up to par V Souths at the SCG and his kick return surrenders were woeful that day.

That is the poorest I had seen Shannon play in a while though.

I think Brown would be a better fullback for our needs but will by no means be upset if Gallant is retained in the 1 jersey

 

[bonstonker]

of all the players off contract gallant is the one i would be dissapointed about losing.
he dead set makes plays in attack and defense.
i don't care about his size or our structure.
the more time he has with the team the better he will become.
we have seen the direct points he adds from his speed.

and best of all he won't cost us top dollar to sign.
considering the overspending of the last few years gallant should not be paying the price of other peoples failures.

gallant is the key to moltzen finishing the year at halfback and if the tigers simply sign gallant and then focus on just props i can't see how the tigers will fail to score points in attack.

 

[Pierre_M7]

I have a feeling that Gallant will be fullback in first grade next year and Lazarus will play for BRET.

 

[system]

Lazarus has at least half a season in BRET before he will be elligible for selection. He has played a total of less than a full game in match conditions since his injury in 2008

 

[Chadman_s_Ghost]

Shannon Gallant is not only the best fullback in the State Cup, he is one of the top 10 in the NRL.

That's a big call for a guy that's played so few 1st grade games. You might rate him, but at least try to keep some perspective.

He makes $20,000 a year. Pensioners make more than that.
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He has a family to feed.
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Martin Tauber is his manager. Martin is THE BEST in the business.

If Tauber the 'best in the business', and this is the deal he got for Gallant to play on, I'm taking up player management. :laughing:

<big>There is one particular man in the WT organisation, and its not Sheens or Simmons, that for years has talked down Gallants ability and gotten into blokes ears and rubbished him behind his back. This man is directly responsible for Shannon's lack of opportunities and progression in that team because of his initial influence.</bigThat bloke should have been sacked years ago because his inabilities in his role have made him a laughing stock in the NRL. Unbeknown to the Sheens, this same man several weeks ago told Gallant not to go to Wests Tigers training again as they were not interested in him. Gallant was told to return to WT training by Sheens.

I can't take a quote like this seriously. I could say the same thing- "There's a one armed man that killed my wife…". And besides, if what you say is true, this would mean that Tim Sheens' selection process is based on the advice of another man within the organisation. This doesn't ring true with the guy who wanted to be known as 'A Supercoach' while with the Raiders- I can't see Sheens having to get the OK on his team selections by board members & being ok with that. Or, if it's because this 'mystery man' has convinced Sheens that Gallant can't play, well that will fly in the face of your earlier comment "I know for a fact that Tim Sheens wants him for 2010", wouldn't it?

And SURELY- if YOU know for a fact that Gallant was told not to turn up to training, then Tim Sheens found out and told him to get back to training- Tim Sheens would:
a) know that there is a board member/ club member openly contradicting him- again, can't see Sheens accepting that.
b) know also that this had occured- completely flying in the face of your quote "Unbeknown to the Sheens, this same man several weeks ago told Gallant not to go to Wests Tigers training again as they were not interested in him. Gallant was told to return to WT training by Sheens". If Sheens knows that Gallant didn't show to training- did he not ask WHY he didn't show? Or did he just ring Shannon & say "I see you missed training today, would it be ok if you come back in the morning?" Doubt that!! :laughing:
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[Balmain_Bug]

Shannon Gallant is not only the best fullback in the State Cup, he is one of the top 10 in the NRL.

That's a big call for a guy that's played so few 1st grade games. You might rate him, but at least try to keep some perspective.

He makes $20,000 a year. Pensioners make more than that.
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He has a family to feed.
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Martin Tauber is his manager. Martin is THE BEST in the business.

If Tauber the 'best in the business', and this is the deal he got for Gallant to play on, I'm taking up player management. :laughing:

<big>There is one particular man in the WT organisation, and its not Sheens or Simmons, that for years has talked down Gallants ability and gotten into blokes ears and rubbished him behind his back. This man is directly responsible for Shannon's lack of opportunities and progression in that team because of his initial influence.</bigThat bloke should have been sacked years ago because his inabilities in his role have made him a laughing stock in the NRL. Unbeknown to the Sheens, this same man several weeks ago told Gallant not to go to Wests Tigers training again as they were not interested in him. Gallant was told to return to WT training by Sheens.

I can't take a quote like this seriously. I could say the same thing- "There's a one armed man that killed my wife…". And besides, if what you say is true, this would mean that Tim Sheens' selection process is based on the advice of another man within the organisation. This doesn't ring true with the guy who wanted to be known as 'A Supercoach' while with the Raiders- I can't see Sheens having to get the OK on his team selections by board members & being ok with that. Or, if it's because this 'mystery man' has convinced Sheens that Gallant can't play, well that will fly in the face of your earlier comment "I know for a fact that Tim Sheens wants him for 2010", wouldn't it?

And SURELY- if YOU know for a fact that Gallant was told not to turn up to training, then Tim Sheens found out and told him to get back to training- Tim Sheens would:
a) know that there is a board member/ club member openly contradicting him- again, can't see Sheens accepting that.
b) know also that this had occured- completely flying in the face of your quote "Unbeknown to the Sheens, this same man several weeks ago told Gallant not to go to Wests Tigers training again as they were not interested in him. Gallant was told to return to WT training by Sheens". If Sheens knows that Gallant didn't show to training- did he not ask WHY he didn't show? Or did he just ring Shannon & say "I see you missed training today, would it be ok if you come back in the morning?" Doubt that!! :laughing:
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Ok Ghost, lets get some things right.

1) I think Gallant is at least better than 5 NRL fullbacks from the other 15 clubs. My opinion.
2) Gallant signed the $20,000 deal with the Magpies BEFORE Tauber became his manager. Understand? He now gets $2,500 per 1st grade game.
3) Sheens must have recently seen the light and I can tell you for an absolute fact that he does want Gallant there for 2010\. The reason why I know this is because he has told him. But a little while back that was not the case. A bloke was there giving his unwanted 20 cents worth whenever the subject of Gallant came up. This man would always rubbish Shannon. I dont know if they will offer him an NRL contract or just try and get him to sign a NSWRL contract with Wests and just sponge off it.
4) The training that im talking about is not mandatory training when they are selected to play in 1st grade but general WT training which certain State Cup and NYC players I believe are invited to.
5) just on point 3, i have been informed that Sheens has asked for gallant to only exclusively attend NRL training now for the time being.
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[Geo]

3) Sheens must have recently seen the light and I can tell you for an absolute fact that he does want Gallant there for 2010\. The reason why I know this is because he has told him. But a little while back that was not the case. A bloke was there giving his unwanted 20 cents worth whenever the subject of Gallant came up. This man would always rubbish Shannon. I dont know if they will offer him an NRL contract or just try and get him to sign a NSWRL contract with Wests and just sponge off it.
5) just on point 3, i have been informed that Sheens has asked for gallant to only exclusively attend NRL training now for the time being.
Anything else you dont understand just ask.

I have 2 questions…. cause I don't understand...
1\. If Sheens is the demigod dictator that you and a lot make him out to be....Why on earth would he listen to anybody else when it comes to team selection and recruitment and retention of players?....A question Chadman asked but can not see where you answered it....

2\. If point 5 is correct If the mysetry man is slandering Shannon to Sheens... What difference does it make if Sheens wants Gallant now?

 

[Balmain_Bug]

3) Sheens must have recently seen the light and I can tell you for an absolute fact that he does want Gallant there for 2010\. The reason why I know this is because he has told him. But a little while back that was not the case. A bloke was there giving his unwanted 20 cents worth whenever the subject of Gallant came up. This man would always rubbish Shannon. I dont know if they will offer him an NRL contract or just try and get him to sign a NSWRL contract with Wests and just sponge off it.
5) just on point 3, i have been informed that Sheens has asked for gallant to only exclusively attend NRL training now for the time being.
Anything else you dont understand just ask.

I have 2 questions…. cause I don't understand...
1\. If Sheens is the demigod dictator that you and a lot make him out to be....Why on earth would he listen to anybody else when it comes to team selection and recruitment and retention of players?....A question Chadman asked but can not see where you answered it....

2\. If point 5 is correct If the mysetry man is slandering Shannon to Sheens... What difference does it make if Sheens wants Gallant now?

Q1\. I cant really answer that because I dont really know. Ask Fonzie why after gallant played blinders for us last year, Fonzie had gallant at the 4th choice fullback.

Q2\. No difference. But they might only offer him a pittance. The fact that Fonzie wants him may not even mean that they offer him anything. Who nows lets just wait and see. Word on the street is that it will be sorted within the next couple of weeks.

 

[king_sirro]

You would have to think Shannon would have to play pretty damm good for the rest of the year to be offered a new deal. We already have 5 players capable of playing fullback in 2010\. I just hope another club see's his value and gives him a go.

 

[Guest]

Well Taumata is officially on board now so that's another piece to the puzzle. Have the Tigers bought him to play 5/8? If so then it's likely Moltzen could shift back to 1\. Gentle was on WTV this week saying that the club was initially reluctant to move Moltzen from 1 to 7 because he never took the line on at 7 last year, but he's turned it around this year and is obviously performing well for the 2 games has played at 7.

 

[Balmain_Bug]

You would have to think Shannon would have to play pretty damm good for the rest of the year to be offered a new deal. We already have 5 players capable of playing fullback in 2010\. I just hope another club see's his value and gives him a go.

But do they play **'fullback'** better than Shannon ?

 

[king_sirro]

Well Taumata is officially on board now so that's another piece to the puzzle. Have the Tigers bought him to play 5/8? If so then it's likely Moltzen could shift back to 1\. Gentle was on WTV this week saying that the club was initially reluctant to move Moltzen from 1 to 7 because he never took the line on at 7 last year, but he's turned it around this year and is obviously performing well for the 2 games has played at 7.

Personally i want a dangerous ball runner at fullback, and i think Taumata could be the go, but who knows if thats even being considered as an option. Moltzen did well at 1, but he lacked that penetration and he looks the goods in the halves, so he'd be my first choice 6 with Benji at 7 and Arana at the back. Ayshford and Lawrence in the centre with Brown, Daniela and Tupou to fight out the other wing spot.