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@gallagher said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395834) said:
@twentyforty said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395812) said:
One of the issues that we don’t often discuss is the limited experience of the playing roster when compared to other teams.
We have a young squad and with it comes a host of challenges.

![e5cd2bea-ca17-490b-885b-4ee169181087-image.jpeg](/assets/uploads/files/1624340947565-e5cd2bea-ca17-490b-885b-4ee169181087-image.jpeg) https://imageresizer.static9.net.au/QAHBwzixQSupYgCbCpb2yiYq-YQ=/1440x0/https%3A%2F%2Fprod.static9.net.au%2Ffs%2Fdfde0152-c2d9-4399-8f6e-16882b0cbb45

But penrith have the third lowest?


Interesting point. Is that due to many of those players playing with each other in lower grades? It would be a dream come true for them to get back together in nrl.
 
@thedaboss said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395907) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395892) said:
When it’s sheensie’s first coaching gig back at Leichhardt the entire hill should take a bow ?

Everyone should cheer when also when packer goes 100metres to score after taking nofos spot on the wing ?

Jokes people jokes

You were 7 years old when Sheens was the coach, lol
He never played a front rower as a winger.

He played Beau Ryan at 2RF
And a 2RF at centre (Lovett)

You're just trippin now ?
 
@tiger5150 said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395818) said:
@twentyforty said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395812) said:
One of the issues that we don’t often discuss is the limited experience of the playing roster when compared to other teams.
We have a young squad and with it comes a host of challenges.

![e5cd2bea-ca17-490b-885b-4ee169181087-image.jpeg](/assets/uploads/files/1624340947565-e5cd2bea-ca17-490b-885b-4ee169181087-image.jpeg) https://imageresizer.static9.net.au/QAHBwzixQSupYgCbCpb2yiYq-YQ=/1440x0/https%3A%2F%2Fprod.static9.net.au%2Ffs%2Fdfde0152-c2d9-4399-8f6e-16882b0cbb45


Great point. Reminds me of Frank Stantons baby Tigers at Balmain, which Warren Ryan reaped the benefits of.

Also looking at the graph, expect years of dominance from Penriff & Manly


Yes if the band stays together they should all be in tune in another 25-40 games.
I thought the correlation of this graph with the ladder was interesting?
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395915) said:
@tigerwest said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395914) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395911) said:
@tigerwest said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395910) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395868) said:
@tigerwest said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395854) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395847) said:
@tigerwest said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395845) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395844) said:
@tigerwest said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395841) said:
@the_patriot said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395825) said:
The real issue with Maguire that no one seems to mention is his lack of charisma and personality.

Ask yourself the question who is this guy, what does he do for fun. Is he married, what do we know about him other than he is robotic and militant in his approach to coaching.

The now generation will never respond to that. They need someone they can respect and relate to.

I doubt many of our players either respect or relate to this guy.

There in lies the problem.

I doubt many of the players had ever heard of Sheens?

Most of the players have never heard of a coach who's won 4 premierships?

Yes, most would have been in nappies when we won?

Are most of our players 17?

No, are you aware kids stay in nappies for a while? I would also think that many (not all) do not follow footy history, especially ours, if they didn't grow up here as a local junior? Though, I am sure they know of him now?

Yes I am, I have a 2 year old.

When I was young I knew the good coaches of the era. He was also Kangaroos coach up until 2015.

Congrats, boy or girl?

Thanks mate. A little boy. The toddler stage is a heap of fun

I got 4 boys, the oldest is 40 now, god I’m getting old.

I turned 40 last month!

Happy birthday Toasty.

Beers at @happy_tiger's pizzeria when you're in town next.
 
@demps said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395918) said:
@thedaboss said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395907) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395892) said:
When it’s sheensie’s first coaching gig back at Leichhardt the entire hill should take a bow ?

Everyone should cheer when also when packer goes 100metres to score after taking nofos spot on the wing ?

Jokes people jokes

You were 7 years old when Sheens was the coach, lol
He never played a front rower as a winger.

He played Beau Ryan at 2RF
And a 2RF at centre (Lovett)

You're just trippin now ?

? ik man ik

My humour is real bad atm??
 
@demps said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395918) said:
@thedaboss said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395907) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395892) said:
When it’s sheensie’s first coaching gig back at Leichhardt the entire hill should take a bow ?

Everyone should cheer when also when packer goes 100metres to score after taking nofos spot on the wing ?

Jokes people jokes

You were 7 years old when Sheens was the coach, lol
He never played a front rower as a winger.

He played Beau Ryan at 2RF
And a 2RF at centre (Lovett)

You're just trippin now ?

Lovett in the centres wasn't Sheens. Wasn't that scarecrow?
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395915) said:
@tigerwest said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395914) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395911) said:
@tigerwest said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395910) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395868) said:
@tigerwest said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395854) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395847) said:
@tigerwest said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395845) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395844) said:
@tigerwest said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395841) said:
@the_patriot said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395825) said:
The real issue with Maguire that no one seems to mention is his lack of charisma and personality.

Ask yourself the question who is this guy, what does he do for fun. Is he married, what do we know about him other than he is robotic and militant in his approach to coaching.

The now generation will never respond to that. They need someone they can respect and relate to.

I doubt many of our players either respect or relate to this guy.

There in lies the problem.

I doubt many of the players had ever heard of Sheens?

Most of the players have never heard of a coach who's won 4 premierships?

Yes, most would have been in nappies when we won?

Are most of our players 17?

No, are you aware kids stay in nappies for a while? I would also think that many (not all) do not follow footy history, especially ours, if they didn't grow up here as a local junior? Though, I am sure they know of him now?

Yes I am, I have a 2 year old.

When I was young I knew the good coaches of the era. He was also Kangaroos coach up until 2015.

Congrats, boy or girl?

Thanks mate. A little boy. The toddler stage is a heap of fun

I got 4 boys, the oldest is 40 now, god I’m getting old.

I turned 40 last month!

????

40 is the new 25. But you will be older than me when he reaches 40?
 
@thedaboss said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395923) said:
@demps said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395918) said:
@thedaboss said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395907) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395892) said:
When it’s sheensie’s first coaching gig back at Leichhardt the entire hill should take a bow ?

Everyone should cheer when also when packer goes 100metres to score after taking nofos spot on the wing ?

Jokes people jokes

You were 7 years old when Sheens was the coach, lol
He never played a front rower as a winger.

He played Beau Ryan at 2RF
And a 2RF at centre (Lovett)

You're just trippin now ?

? ik man ik

My humour is real bad atm??

We love ya mate.

You're like the new version of @Milky aka @BenjiMagic96

Except you haven't turned your back on the boys yet like him ?
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395924) said:
@demps said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395918) said:
@thedaboss said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395907) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395892) said:
When it’s sheensie’s first coaching gig back at Leichhardt the entire hill should take a bow ?

Everyone should cheer when also when packer goes 100metres to score after taking nofos spot on the wing ?

Jokes people jokes

You were 7 years old when Sheens was the coach, lol
He never played a front rower as a winger.

He played Beau Ryan at 2RF
And a 2RF at centre (Lovett)

You're just trippin now ?

Lovett in the centres wasn't Sheens. Wasn't that scarecrow?

Probably.
Sounds like something Sheens would do though.

Carry a winger on the bench for the last 5 minutes of the game.
Lolllllll.
 
@cochise said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395866) said:
@gallagher said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395860) said:
@tigerwest said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395859) said:
@gallagher said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395858) said:
@tigerwest said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395854) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395847) said:
@tigerwest said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395845) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395844) said:
@tigerwest said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395841) said:
@the_patriot said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395825) said:
The real issue with Maguire that no one seems to mention is his lack of charisma and personality.

Ask yourself the question who is this guy, what does he do for fun. Is he married, what do we know about him other than he is robotic and militant in his approach to coaching.

The now generation will never respond to that. They need someone they can respect and relate to.

I doubt many of our players either respect or relate to this guy.

There in lies the problem.

I doubt many of the players had ever heard of Sheens?

Most of the players have never heard of a coach who's won 4 premierships?

Yes, most would have been in nappies when we won?

Are most of our players 17?

No, are you aware kids stay in nappies for a while? I would also think that many (not all) do not follow footy history, especially ours, if they didn't grow up here as a local junior? Though, I am sure they know of him now?

Well the club is really fostering culture within the club if our players dont know who Sheens is. I reckon the Parra boys would be aware of Jack Gibson.

Maybe, but probably only locals, look I don't know anymore than you know, but kids today just don't seem to be interested in what happened yesterday, never mind 17 years ago and beyond? As I said, they probably know who he is now?

Well if they dont know the history of the club then we have no hope of them wanting to play for the club. No wonder they just give up, what are they playing for? Who are they representing?

Themselves?

You need more than just playing for yourself in a teamsport.
 
@gallagher said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395963) said:
@cochise said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395866) said:
@gallagher said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395860) said:
@tigerwest said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395859) said:
@gallagher said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395858) said:
@tigerwest said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395854) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395847) said:
@tigerwest said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395845) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395844) said:
@tigerwest said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395841) said:
@the_patriot said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395825) said:
The real issue with Maguire that no one seems to mention is his lack of charisma and personality.

Ask yourself the question who is this guy, what does he do for fun. Is he married, what do we know about him other than he is robotic and militant in his approach to coaching.

The now generation will never respond to that. They need someone they can respect and relate to.

I doubt many of our players either respect or relate to this guy.

There in lies the problem.

I doubt many of the players had ever heard of Sheens?

Most of the players have never heard of a coach who's won 4 premierships?

Yes, most would have been in nappies when we won?

Are most of our players 17?

No, are you aware kids stay in nappies for a while? I would also think that many (not all) do not follow footy history, especially ours, if they didn't grow up here as a local junior? Though, I am sure they know of him now?

Well the club is really fostering culture within the club if our players dont know who Sheens is. I reckon the Parra boys would be aware of Jack Gibson.

Maybe, but probably only locals, look I don't know anymore than you know, but kids today just don't seem to be interested in what happened yesterday, never mind 17 years ago and beyond? As I said, they probably know who he is now?

Well if they dont know the history of the club then we have no hope of them wanting to play for the club. No wonder they just give up, what are they playing for? Who are they representing?

Themselves?

You need more than just playing for yourself in a teamsport.

That is my point.
 
@tigerwest said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395869) said:
@gallagher said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395860) said:
@tigerwest said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395859) said:
@gallagher said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395858) said:
@tigerwest said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395854) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395847) said:
@tigerwest said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395845) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395844) said:
@tigerwest said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395841) said:
@the_patriot said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395825) said:
The real issue with Maguire that no one seems to mention is his lack of charisma and personality.

Ask yourself the question who is this guy, what does he do for fun. Is he married, what do we know about him other than he is robotic and militant in his approach to coaching.

The now generation will never respond to that. They need someone they can respect and relate to.

I doubt many of our players either respect or relate to this guy.

There in lies the problem.

I doubt many of the players had ever heard of Sheens?

Most of the players have never heard of a coach who's won 4 premierships?

Yes, most would have been in nappies when we won?

Are most of our players 17?

No, are you aware kids stay in nappies for a while? I would also think that many (not all) do not follow footy history, especially ours, if they didn't grow up here as a local junior? Though, I am sure they know of him now?

Well the club is really fostering culture within the club if our players dont know who Sheens is. I reckon the Parra boys would be aware of Jack Gibson.

Maybe, but probably only locals, look I don't know anymore than you know, but kids today just don't seem to be interested in what happened yesterday, never mind 17 years ago and beyond? As I said, they probably know who he is now?

Well if they dont know the history of the club then we have no hope of them wanting to play for the club. No wonder they just give up, what are they playing for? Who are they representing?

The club, doesn't mean they know everyone who has been involved, since inception?

You should know the history of the club. I would have thought the clubs only premierships winning coach would be noteworthy.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395911) said:
@tigerwest said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395910) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395868) said:
@tigerwest said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395854) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395847) said:
@tigerwest said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395845) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395844) said:
@tigerwest said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395841) said:
@the_patriot said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395825) said:
The real issue with Maguire that no one seems to mention is his lack of charisma and personality.

Ask yourself the question who is this guy, what does he do for fun. Is he married, what do we know about him other than he is robotic and militant in his approach to coaching.

The now generation will never respond to that. They need someone they can respect and relate to.

I doubt many of our players either respect or relate to this guy.

There in lies the problem.

I doubt many of the players had ever heard of Sheens?

Most of the players have never heard of a coach who's won 4 premierships?

Yes, most would have been in nappies when we won?

Are most of our players 17?

No, are you aware kids stay in nappies for a while? I would also think that many (not all) do not follow footy history, especially ours, if they didn't grow up here as a local junior? Though, I am sure they know of him now?

Yes I am, I have a 2 year old.

When I was young I knew the good coaches of the era. He was also Kangaroos coach up until 2015.

Congrats, boy or girl?

Thanks mate. A little boy. The toddler stage is a heap of fun

Don’t encourage him to talk ?
Before you know it .....
 
@hobbo1 said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395968) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395911) said:
@tigerwest said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395910) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395868) said:
@tigerwest said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395854) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395847) said:
@tigerwest said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395845) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395844) said:
@tigerwest said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395841) said:
@the_patriot said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395825) said:
The real issue with Maguire that no one seems to mention is his lack of charisma and personality.

Ask yourself the question who is this guy, what does he do for fun. Is he married, what do we know about him other than he is robotic and militant in his approach to coaching.

The now generation will never respond to that. They need someone they can respect and relate to.

I doubt many of our players either respect or relate to this guy.

There in lies the problem.

I doubt many of the players had ever heard of Sheens?

Most of the players have never heard of a coach who's won 4 premierships?

Yes, most would have been in nappies when we won?

Are most of our players 17?

No, are you aware kids stay in nappies for a while? I would also think that many (not all) do not follow footy history, especially ours, if they didn't grow up here as a local junior? Though, I am sure they know of him now?

Yes I am, I have a 2 year old.

When I was young I knew the good coaches of the era. He was also Kangaroos coach up until 2015.

Congrats, boy or girl?

Thanks mate. A little boy. The toddler stage is a heap of fun

Don’t encourage him to talk ?
Before you know it .....

He's already there, you can't shut him up :joy:
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395970) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395968) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395911) said:
@tigerwest said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395910) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395868) said:
@tigerwest said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395854) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395847) said:
@tigerwest said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395845) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395844) said:
@tigerwest said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395841) said:
@the_patriot said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395825) said:
The real issue with Maguire that no one seems to mention is his lack of charisma and personality.

Ask yourself the question who is this guy, what does he do for fun. Is he married, what do we know about him other than he is robotic and militant in his approach to coaching.

The now generation will never respond to that. They need someone they can respect and relate to.

I doubt many of our players either respect or relate to this guy.

There in lies the problem.

I doubt many of the players had ever heard of Sheens?

Most of the players have never heard of a coach who's won 4 premierships?

Yes, most would have been in nappies when we won?

Are most of our players 17?

No, are you aware kids stay in nappies for a while? I would also think that many (not all) do not follow footy history, especially ours, if they didn't grow up here as a local junior? Though, I am sure they know of him now?

Yes I am, I have a 2 year old.

When I was young I knew the good coaches of the era. He was also Kangaroos coach up until 2015.

Congrats, boy or girl?

Thanks mate. A little boy. The toddler stage is a heap of fun

Don’t encourage him to talk ?
Before you know it .....

He's already there, you can't shut him up :joy:

My young bloke only has 5 words in his vocabulary ..
Sure
Maybe
Whatever
Later
Problem
 
@hobbo1 said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395973) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395970) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395968) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395911) said:
@tigerwest said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395910) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395868) said:
@tigerwest said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395854) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395847) said:
@tigerwest said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395845) said:
@avocadoontoast said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395844) said:
@tigerwest said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395841) said:
@the_patriot said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395825) said:
The real issue with Maguire that no one seems to mention is his lack of charisma and personality.

Ask yourself the question who is this guy, what does he do for fun. Is he married, what do we know about him other than he is robotic and militant in his approach to coaching.

The now generation will never respond to that. They need someone they can respect and relate to.

I doubt many of our players either respect or relate to this guy.

There in lies the problem.

I doubt many of the players had ever heard of Sheens?

Most of the players have never heard of a coach who's won 4 premierships?

Yes, most would have been in nappies when we won?

Are most of our players 17?

No, are you aware kids stay in nappies for a while? I would also think that many (not all) do not follow footy history, especially ours, if they didn't grow up here as a local junior? Though, I am sure they know of him now?

Yes I am, I have a 2 year old.

When I was young I knew the good coaches of the era. He was also Kangaroos coach up until 2015.

Congrats, boy or girl?

Thanks mate. A little boy. The toddler stage is a heap of fun

Don’t encourage him to talk ?
Before you know it .....

He's already there, you can't shut him up :joy:

My young bloke only has 5 words in his vocabulary ..
Sure
Maybe
Whatever
Later
Problem

You forgot the big sentence? "Can I............", of course mom says yes everytime :joy: :joy: :joy:
 
@sataris said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395986) said:
I have PTSD from Fitzhenry being the Mr.Fixit of the side.

Please no.

The only position he didn't play was Prop.

Fitz was versatile. 🙂
 
@twentyforty said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395920) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395818) said:
@twentyforty said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1395812) said:
One of the issues that we don’t often discuss is the limited experience of the playing roster when compared to other teams.
We have a young squad and with it comes a host of challenges.

![e5cd2bea-ca17-490b-885b-4ee169181087-image.jpeg](/assets/uploads/files/1624340947565-e5cd2bea-ca17-490b-885b-4ee169181087-image.jpeg) https://imageresizer.static9.net.au/QAHBwzixQSupYgCbCpb2yiYq-YQ=/1440x0/https%3A%2F%2Fprod.static9.net.au%2Ffs%2Fdfde0152-c2d9-4399-8f6e-16882b0cbb45


Great point. Reminds me of Frank Stantons baby Tigers at Balmain, which Warren Ryan reaped the benefits of.

Also looking at the graph, expect years of dominance from Penriff & Manly


Yes if the band stays together they should all be in tune in another 25-40 games.
I thought the correlation of this graph with the ladder was interesting?

Penrith and Manly are the only two thatbuck the trend. This Penrith crop is pretty special and I hate to say it but pimply Nathan might be a once in a generation player. Manly has Turbo
 
@demps said in [Sheens replacing Madge](/post/1393537) said:
Tim was always great with the young guys coming through.
Benji, Robbie, Heino, Halatau in the early days…
Ben Roberts said Sheens was a great coach but he couldn’t get a crack because he was behind Benji but Sheens really works with the boys.
Then later, Guys like Lawrence, Moltz.
Yeah he made some selections that @TheDaBoss pretends he knows about despite being 7 years old at the time… but he’s always been a good man manager.
Tim Sheens on his own isn’t the way…
It’s the power circle.
Ben Gardiner - Tim Sheens - Robbie Farah - Brett Kimmorley- John Morris and Madge can be moved onto coaching KOE, hard man tactics to get them ready for grade

How do you know what he was like with Dene?
 
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