Sheens

[cochise]

I think I might be the only Pascoe supporter on the planet, But as the CEO to get over 20,000 members at arguably the most unsuccessful club(decade no finals) in the NRL, and to be 1 of only 4 clubs to consistently make a profit at the end of each financial year from their own revenue. Salary cap management is poor but also different and is influenced by more departments at the club eg recruitment. Every year we have exceedingly strong sponsors, some clubs start the year without a primary sponsor. But to get a 70 million dollar center of excellence at the complete expense of state and local government, is some serious political lobbying, Lee H would also been on that one. How do we get all of those free to air games, other than Brisbane on Fridays, I think we get line share of what successful teams get on 9/gem.


Actually the West Tigers put at least $10m of their money into the project

Also, please remember this is just not a COE for the Tigers. It has multiple uses from indoor netball/basketball courts, community centre, creche, West Harbour rugby, a local soccer team. So the local and State govt have provide probably 1/2 of the new Concord complex to other sports and community requirements

While true, the Wests Tigers have a massive dedicated section in the building.

 

[Tucker]

I think I might be the only Pascoe supporter on the planet, But as the CEO to get over 20,000 members at arguably the most unsuccessful club(decade no finals) in the NRL, and to be 1 of only 4 clubs to consistently make a profit at the end of each financial year from their own revenue. Salary cap management is poor but also different and is influenced by more departments at the club eg recruitment. Every year we have exceedingly strong sponsors, some clubs start the year without a primary sponsor. But to get a 70 million dollar center of excellence at the complete expense of state and local government, is some serious political lobbying, Lee H would also been on that one. How do we get all of those free to air games, other than Brisbane on Fridays, I think we get line share of what successful teams get on 9/gem.

Imagine the sponsors, members etc if we could play footy. I think the brand sells itself, just look at the media thirst for Tigers. He’s crap.

Yes businesses run themselves.
CEO is a redundant position…

 

[240z]

I think I might be the only Pascoe supporter on the planet, But as the CEO to get over 20,000 members at arguably the most unsuccessful club(decade no finals) in the NRL, and to be 1 of only 4 clubs to consistently make a profit at the end of each financial year from their own revenue. Salary cap management is poor but also different and is influenced by more departments at the club eg recruitment. Every year we have exceedingly strong sponsors, some clubs start the year without a primary sponsor. But to get a 70 million dollar center of excellence at the complete expense of state and local government, is some serious political lobbying, Lee H would also been on that one. How do we get all of those free to air games, other than Brisbane on Fridays, I think we get line share of what successful teams get on 9/gem.


Actually the West Tigers put at least $10m of their money into the project

Also, please remember this is just not a COE for the Tigers. It has multiple uses from indoor netball/basketball courts, community centre, creche, West Harbour rugby, a local soccer team. So the local and State govt have provide probably 1/2 of the new Concord complex to other sports and community requirements

While true, the Wests Tigers have a massive dedicated section in the building.

They do and it will be the best club based sporting complex for any team in Australia. I'm involved with West Harbour Rugby and I can tell you we will also be the envy of every rugby club in Australia

 

[batboy]

I think I might be the only Pascoe supporter on the planet, But as the CEO to get over 20,000 members at arguably the most unsuccessful club(decade no finals) in the NRL, and to be 1 of only 4 clubs to consistently make a profit at the end of each financial year from their own revenue. Salary cap management is poor but also different and is influenced by more departments at the club eg recruitment. Every year we have exceedingly strong sponsors, some clubs start the year without a primary sponsor. But to get a 70 million dollar center of excellence at the complete expense of state and local government, is some serious political lobbying, Lee H would also been on that one. How do we get all of those free to air games, other than Brisbane on Fridays, I think we get line share of what successful teams get on 9/gem.


Actually the West Tigers put at least $10m of their money into the project

Also, please remember this is just not a COE for the Tigers. It has multiple uses from indoor netball/basketball courts, community centre, creche, West Harbour rugby, a local soccer team. So the local and State govt have provide probably 1/2 of the new Concord complex to other sports and community requirements

And all of that just happened by itself?


Don't get me wrong the Tigers were the major driver for this to happen but there were many other groups assisting this push for the upgrade. You may not realise this but West Harbour rugby have the lease on Concord oval and do for another 10 years. They were also heavily involved in the design for the new stadium

I'm fully aware of West Harbours involvement at Concord... But seriously, It's "West Harbour"

 

[240z]

I think I might be the only Pascoe supporter on the planet, But as the CEO to get over 20,000 members at arguably the most unsuccessful club(decade no finals) in the NRL, and to be 1 of only 4 clubs to consistently make a profit at the end of each financial year from their own revenue. Salary cap management is poor but also different and is influenced by more departments at the club eg recruitment. Every year we have exceedingly strong sponsors, some clubs start the year without a primary sponsor. But to get a 70 million dollar center of excellence at the complete expense of state and local government, is some serious political lobbying, Lee H would also been on that one. How do we get all of those free to air games, other than Brisbane on Fridays, I think we get line share of what successful teams get on 9/gem.


Actually the West Tigers put at least $10m of their money into the project

Also, please remember this is just not a COE for the Tigers. It has multiple uses from indoor netball/basketball courts, community centre, creche, West Harbour rugby, a local soccer team. So the local and State govt have provide probably 1/2 of the new Concord complex to other sports and community requirements

And all of that just happened by itself?


Don't get me wrong the Tigers were the major driver for this to happen but there were many other groups assisting this push for the upgrade. You may not realise this but West Harbour rugby have the lease on Concord oval and do for another 10 years. They were also heavily involved in the design for the new stadium

I'm fully aware of West Harbours involvement at Concord... But seriously, It's "West Harbour"

Lol
How many players from West Harbour are currently in the Australian squad and how may others are currently playing for other international teams. Don't diss a club you nothing about champ.

 

[Wildcat777]

Not much conversation on here re Sheens. Maybe change the thread name?

 

[batboy]

I think I might be the only Pascoe supporter on the planet, But as the CEO to get over 20,000 members at arguably the most unsuccessful club(decade no finals) in the NRL, and to be 1 of only 4 clubs to consistently make a profit at the end of each financial year from their own revenue. Salary cap management is poor but also different and is influenced by more departments at the club eg recruitment. Every year we have exceedingly strong sponsors, some clubs start the year without a primary sponsor. But to get a 70 million dollar center of excellence at the complete expense of state and local government, is some serious political lobbying, Lee H would also been on that one. How do we get all of those free to air games, other than Brisbane on Fridays, I think we get line share of what successful teams get on 9/gem.


Actually the West Tigers put at least $10m of their money into the project

Also, please remember this is just not a COE for the Tigers. It has multiple uses from indoor netball/basketball courts, community centre, creche, West Harbour rugby, a local soccer team. So the local and State govt have provide probably 1/2 of the new Concord complex to other sports and community requirements

And all of that just happened by itself?


Don't get me wrong the Tigers were the major driver for this to happen but there were many other groups assisting this push for the upgrade. You may not realise this but West Harbour rugby have the lease on Concord oval and do for another 10 years. They were also heavily involved in the design for the new stadium

I'm fully aware of West Harbours involvement at Concord... But seriously, It's "West Harbour"


Lol
How many players from West Harbour are currently in the Australian squad and how may others are currently playing for other international teams. Don't diss a club you nothing about champ.

Who Knows, Maybe all of them....
I can tell you how many people care,
It's Rugby - Zero.

For mine... West Harbour should be very thankful Wests Tigers got the facility rebuilt for them to frequent.

 

[tony soprano]

I think I might be the only Pascoe supporter on the planet, But as the CEO to get over 20,000 members at arguably the most unsuccessful club(decade no finals) in the NRL, and to be 1 of only 4 clubs to consistently make a profit at the end of each financial year from their own revenue. Salary cap management is poor but also different and is influenced by more departments at the club eg recruitment. Every year we have exceedingly strong sponsors, some clubs start the year without a primary sponsor. But to get a 70 million dollar center of excellence at the complete expense of state and local government, is some serious political lobbying, Lee H would also been on that one. How do we get all of those free to air games, other than Brisbane on Fridays, I think we get line share of what successful teams get on 9/gem.

This is a very good point.
From a CEO perspective he has done his job, however one aspect of his governance has let him down … the NRL football department has consistently failed.
A move has been made to course correct, bringing in experts and past successful resources in off field capacities. On field resources remain a problem but hopefully these new off field guys will solve this. Should this work, he deserves to be celebrated.

Pascoe was the one who wanted to play football guru, know your limits.

That's five years down the drain which is negligence.

By definition a guru sits atop and gives expert advice to all below. This theory of Pascoe’s leadership style flies in the face of the recruitment and retention committee he initiated, that meet regularly to make collaborative decisions. This is fact.
Now I’m not arguing this has worked because our recruitment of established players is poor but to suggest he sees himself as a guru and acts this way is factually incorrect

Point I'm making is he should never have been involved in football decisions but he was and it has really hurt us.

How long did it take for the big boys to arrive. Too long.

 

[tony soprano]

I think I might be the only Pascoe supporter on the planet, But as the CEO to get over 20,000 members at arguably the most unsuccessful club(decade no finals) in the NRL, and to be 1 of only 4 clubs to consistently make a profit at the end of each financial year from their own revenue. Salary cap management is poor but also different and is influenced by more departments at the club eg recruitment. Every year we have exceedingly strong sponsors, some clubs start the year without a primary sponsor. But to get a 70 million dollar center of excellence at the complete expense of state and local government, is some serious political lobbying, Lee H would also been on that one. How do we get all of those free to air games, other than Brisbane on Fridays, I think we get line share of what successful teams get on 9/gem.

This is a very good point.
From a CEO perspective he has done his job, however one aspect of his governance has let him down … the NRL football department has consistently failed.
A move has been made to course correct, bringing in experts and past successful resources in off field capacities. On field resources remain a problem but hopefully these new off field guys will solve this. Should this work, he deserves to be celebrated.

Pascoe was the one who wanted to play football guru, know your limits.

That's five years down the drain which is negligence.

Did he really?
Can you please link me to stories detailing this?

He hired harigan, Kelly. Ivan, madge, Should never of had that power. Failed each time.

 

[tony soprano]

I think I might be the only Pascoe supporter on the planet, But as the CEO to get over 20,000 members at arguably the most unsuccessful club(decade no finals) in the NRL, and to be 1 of only 4 clubs to consistently make a profit at the end of each financial year from their own revenue. Salary cap management is poor but also different and is influenced by more departments at the club eg recruitment. Every year we have exceedingly strong sponsors, some clubs start the year without a primary sponsor. But to get a 70 million dollar center of excellence at the complete expense of state and local government, is some serious political lobbying, Lee H would also been on that one. How do we get all of those free to air games, other than Brisbane on Fridays, I think we get line share of what successful teams get on 9/gem.

This is a very good point.
From a CEO perspective he has done his job, however one aspect of his governance has let him down … the NRL football department has consistently failed.
A move has been made to course correct, bringing in experts and past successful resources in off field capacities. On field resources remain a problem but hopefully these new off field guys will solve this. Should this work, he deserves to be celebrated.

Pascoe was the one who wanted to play football guru, know your limits.

That's five years down the drain which is negligence.

Downvote! .....No evidence. That is what you think, not what you can prove with any source you can name.

Ok downvote, who cares. Lame.

I don't need the media to tell me what to think, I know he has hired the wrong people for years and like I said he should know his limits because it's cost us.

 

[tony soprano]

I think I might be the only Pascoe supporter on the planet, But as the CEO to get over 20,000 members at arguably the most unsuccessful club(decade no finals) in the NRL, and to be 1 of only 4 clubs to consistently make a profit at the end of each financial year from their own revenue. Salary cap management is poor but also different and is influenced by more departments at the club eg recruitment. Every year we have exceedingly strong sponsors, some clubs start the year without a primary sponsor. But to get a 70 million dollar center of excellence at the complete expense of state and local government, is some serious political lobbying, Lee H would also been on that one. How do we get all of those free to air games, other than Brisbane on Fridays, I think we get line share of what successful teams get on 9/gem.

This is a very good point.
From a CEO perspective he has done his job, however one aspect of his governance has let him down … the NRL football department has consistently failed.
A move has been made to course correct, bringing in experts and past successful resources in off field capacities. On field resources remain a problem but hopefully these new off field guys will solve this. Should this work, he deserves to be celebrated.

Pascoe was the one who wanted to play football guru, know your limits.

That's five years down the drain which is negligence.

I'm not going to try and sway any Pascoe negators...
They've well made up their minds - Based on what, They couldn't tell you... But here it is as I see it.

The CEO of the club is much of a mouth piece for the Board - A board full of Old Magpies, That hired an old Magpie (With limited Head Coaching credentials)
to coach the team... Where is where most of the hassles laid at Pascoes' feet began - Robbie Gate, The Big 4 etc. etc.
To turn a profit of any number in a game where clubs don't turn profit with the organisation as it stood when he took the job until now is a feet on its own. He handled the Taylor situation, and Hired one of the only coaches to win the comp in the last 5 years... Then handled the exit of a pot load of our best players - Could he have kept them, Well - Never say never - But all those players had contracts in front of them for a very long time and were holding the club to ransom (Holding out for something better) THEY HAD ALL WORKED EXIT STRATEGYS
As I also see it, His biggest mistake was giving said coach full autonomy over his Roster - Or was it a mistake? How many coaches take on a job where they don't get to pick the players... NONE!! (Again - Said coach is 1/3 to win a comp in the last 5 years)
So we got lumbered with another 4 years of problems, The Players Cleary bought "Clearys' Players" take us to the 8 and Pascoe is a genius, They don't and he's incompetent. I don't get it, they're the same players, And the club (Not just the CEO) hired a competent coach to choose them...

I don't even Blame the coach for the Player Performance this year, Let alone the CEO - Ridiculous.
There is 3-4 Games we could have easily won this year, That puts us in the 8 and ends these types of conversations....
Wingers letting in 3-4 Tries in the first 20 or so minutes of a game against a team that had barely scored a try all year are situations where our performances is lacking.

Pascoe may not ever be the worlds best CEO, But he's the CEO of arguably the Games worst run club...
He's done nothing but handle catastrophe after catastrophe
All in all, He's actually going OK.

I'm not disputing his ability to make the balance sheet look good.

To sum up in a few words he's finally taken himself away from football decisions and that took too long.

We heading in the right direction now but ceo don't last as long as he has I'd like some change but doubt it will happen and would be happy for him if he finally tastes some football success. Unfortunately nrl is not judged on corporate sponsors and membership numbers we haven't been in the finals for 10 years obviously

 

[240z]

I think I might be the only Pascoe supporter on the planet, But as the CEO to get over 20,000 members at arguably the most unsuccessful club(decade no finals) in the NRL, and to be 1 of only 4 clubs to consistently make a profit at the end of each financial year from their own revenue. Salary cap management is poor but also different and is influenced by more departments at the club eg recruitment. Every year we have exceedingly strong sponsors, some clubs start the year without a primary sponsor. But to get a 70 million dollar center of excellence at the complete expense of state and local government, is some serious political lobbying, Lee H would also been on that one. How do we get all of those free to air games, other than Brisbane on Fridays, I think we get line share of what successful teams get on 9/gem.


Actually the West Tigers put at least $10m of their money into the project

Also, please remember this is just not a COE for the Tigers. It has multiple uses from indoor netball/basketball courts, community centre, creche, West Harbour rugby, a local soccer team. So the local and State govt have provide probably 1/2 of the new Concord complex to other sports and community requirements

And all of that just happened by itself?


Don't get me wrong the Tigers were the major driver for this to happen but there were many other groups assisting this push for the upgrade. You may not realise this but West Harbour rugby have the lease on Concord oval and do for another 10 years. They were also heavily involved in the design for the new stadium

I'm fully aware of West Harbours involvement at Concord... But seriously, It's "West Harbour"


Lol
How many players from West Harbour are currently in the Australian squad and how may others are currently playing for other international teams. Don't diss a club you nothing about champ.

Who Knows, Maybe all of them....
I can tell you how many people care,
It's Rugby - Zero.

For mine... West Harbour should be very thankful Wests Tigers got the facility rebuilt for them to frequent.

They are thankful to the Local and State governments, (West Tigers did not pay for Harbour's portion of the rebuild), but as I stated they are the leaseholders and have been for more that 120 years.
When you disrespect another sport and a club as you did in your posts I have an issue with that

 

[innsaneink]

I always looked at Wests RU as like a cousin to Wests Magpies, growing up in Ashfield as a Wests Jnr.... Many many players criss crossed between the two

 

[batboy]

I think I might be the only Pascoe supporter on the planet, But as the CEO to get over 20,000 members at arguably the most unsuccessful club(decade no finals) in the NRL, and to be 1 of only 4 clubs to consistently make a profit at the end of each financial year from their own revenue. Salary cap management is poor but also different and is influenced by more departments at the club eg recruitment. Every year we have exceedingly strong sponsors, some clubs start the year without a primary sponsor. But to get a 70 million dollar center of excellence at the complete expense of state and local government, is some serious political lobbying, Lee H would also been on that one. How do we get all of those free to air games, other than Brisbane on Fridays, I think we get line share of what successful teams get on 9/gem.

This is a very good point.
From a CEO perspective he has done his job, however one aspect of his governance has let him down … the NRL football department has consistently failed.
A move has been made to course correct, bringing in experts and past successful resources in off field capacities. On field resources remain a problem but hopefully these new off field guys will solve this. Should this work, he deserves to be celebrated.

Pascoe was the one who wanted to play football guru, know your limits.

That's five years down the drain which is negligence.

I'm not going to try and sway any Pascoe negators...
They've well made up their minds - Based on what, They couldn't tell you... But here it is as I see it.

The CEO of the club is much of a mouth piece for the Board - A board full of Old Magpies, That hired an old Magpie (With limited Head Coaching credentials)
to coach the team... Where is where most of the hassles laid at Pascoes' feet began - Robbie Gate, The Big 4 etc. etc.
To turn a profit of any number in a game where clubs don't turn profit with the organisation as it stood when he took the job until now is a feet on its own. He handled the Taylor situation, and Hired one of the only coaches to win the comp in the last 5 years... Then handled the exit of a pot load of our best players - Could he have kept them, Well - Never say never - But all those players had contracts in front of them for a very long time and were holding the club to ransom (Holding out for something better) THEY HAD ALL WORKED EXIT STRATEGYS
As I also see it, His biggest mistake was giving said coach full autonomy over his Roster - Or was it a mistake? How many coaches take on a job where they don't get to pick the players... NONE!! (Again - Said coach is 1/3 to win a comp in the last 5 years)
So we got lumbered with another 4 years of problems, The Players Cleary bought "Clearys' Players" take us to the 8 and Pascoe is a genius, They don't and he's incompetent. I don't get it, they're the same players, And the club (Not just the CEO) hired a competent coach to choose them...

I don't even Blame the coach for the Player Performance this year, Let alone the CEO - Ridiculous.
There is 3-4 Games we could have easily won this year, That puts us in the 8 and ends these types of conversations....
Wingers letting in 3-4 Tries in the first 20 or so minutes of a game against a team that had barely scored a try all year are situations where our performances is lacking.

Pascoe may not ever be the worlds best CEO, But he's the CEO of arguably the Games worst run club...
He's done nothing but handle catastrophe after catastrophe
All in all, He's actually going OK.

I'm not disputing his ability to make the balance sheet look good.

To sum up in a few words he's finally taken himself away from football decisions and that took too long.

We heading in the right direction now but ceo don't last as long as he has I'd like some change but doubt it will happen and would be happy for him if he finally tastes some football success. Unfortunately nrl is not judged on corporate sponsors and membership numbers we haven't been in the finals for 10 years obviously

I think he's had to be around the Football decisions for the most part... We sacked a coach, And another walked out in his first 3 years, He was the only man left standing.

 

[cochise]

I think I might be the only Pascoe supporter on the planet, But as the CEO to get over 20,000 members at arguably the most unsuccessful club(decade no finals) in the NRL, and to be 1 of only 4 clubs to consistently make a profit at the end of each financial year from their own revenue. Salary cap management is poor but also different and is influenced by more departments at the club eg recruitment. Every year we have exceedingly strong sponsors, some clubs start the year without a primary sponsor. But to get a 70 million dollar center of excellence at the complete expense of state and local government, is some serious political lobbying, Lee H would also been on that one. How do we get all of those free to air games, other than Brisbane on Fridays, I think we get line share of what successful teams get on 9/gem.


Actually the West Tigers put at least $10m of their money into the project

Also, please remember this is just not a COE for the Tigers. It has multiple uses from indoor netball/basketball courts, community centre, creche, West Harbour rugby, a local soccer team. So the local and State govt have provide probably 1/2 of the new Concord complex to other sports and community requirements

And all of that just happened by itself?


Don't get me wrong the Tigers were the major driver for this to happen but there were many other groups assisting this push for the upgrade. You may not realise this but West Harbour rugby have the lease on Concord oval and do for another 10 years. They were also heavily involved in the design for the new stadium

I'm fully aware of West Harbours involvement at Concord... But seriously, It's "West Harbour"


Lol
How many players from West Harbour are currently in the Australian squad and how may others are currently playing for other international teams. Don't diss a club you nothing about champ.

Who Knows, Maybe all of them....
I can tell you how many people care,
It's Rugby - Zero.

For mine... West Harbour should be very thankful Wests Tigers got the facility rebuilt for them to frequent.


They are thankful to the Local and State governments, (West Tigers did not pay for Harbour's portion of the rebuild), but as I stated they are the leaseholders and have been for more that 120 years.
When you disrespect another sport and a club as you did in your posts I have an issue with that

That's great, the rebuild doesn't happen without the Wests Tigers though.

 

[batboy]

I think I might be the only Pascoe supporter on the planet, But as the CEO to get over 20,000 members at arguably the most unsuccessful club(decade no finals) in the NRL, and to be 1 of only 4 clubs to consistently make a profit at the end of each financial year from their own revenue. Salary cap management is poor but also different and is influenced by more departments at the club eg recruitment. Every year we have exceedingly strong sponsors, some clubs start the year without a primary sponsor. But to get a 70 million dollar center of excellence at the complete expense of state and local government, is some serious political lobbying, Lee H would also been on that one. How do we get all of those free to air games, other than Brisbane on Fridays, I think we get line share of what successful teams get on 9/gem.


Actually the West Tigers put at least $10m of their money into the project

Also, please remember this is just not a COE for the Tigers. It has multiple uses from indoor netball/basketball courts, community centre, creche, West Harbour rugby, a local soccer team. So the local and State govt have provide probably 1/2 of the new Concord complex to other sports and community requirements

And all of that just happened by itself?


Don't get me wrong the Tigers were the major driver for this to happen but there were many other groups assisting this push for the upgrade. You may not realise this but West Harbour rugby have the lease on Concord oval and do for another 10 years. They were also heavily involved in the design for the new stadium

I'm fully aware of West Harbours involvement at Concord... But seriously, It's "West Harbour"


Lol
How many players from West Harbour are currently in the Australian squad and how may others are currently playing for other international teams. Don't diss a club you nothing about champ.

Who Knows, Maybe all of them....
I can tell you how many people care,
It's Rugby - Zero.

For mine... West Harbour should be very thankful Wests Tigers got the facility rebuilt for them to frequent.


They are thankful to the Local and State governments, (West Tigers did not pay for Harbour's portion of the rebuild), but as I stated they are the leaseholders and have been for more that 120 years.
When you disrespect another sport and a club as you did in your posts I have an issue with that

That's OK, I'm not here to glorify a lower level 2nd tier Rugby team. If the Tigers weren't at concord for as long as they have been... It wouldn't be kept the way it has been - And it certainly wouldn't have been re-developed.

 

[tony soprano]

I think I might be the only Pascoe supporter on the planet, But as the CEO to get over 20,000 members at arguably the most unsuccessful club(decade no finals) in the NRL, and to be 1 of only 4 clubs to consistently make a profit at the end of each financial year from their own revenue. Salary cap management is poor but also different and is influenced by more departments at the club eg recruitment. Every year we have exceedingly strong sponsors, some clubs start the year without a primary sponsor. But to get a 70 million dollar center of excellence at the complete expense of state and local government, is some serious political lobbying, Lee H would also been on that one. How do we get all of those free to air games, other than Brisbane on Fridays, I think we get line share of what successful teams get on 9/gem.

This is a very good point.
From a CEO perspective he has done his job, however one aspect of his governance has let him down … the NRL football department has consistently failed.
A move has been made to course correct, bringing in experts and past successful resources in off field capacities. On field resources remain a problem but hopefully these new off field guys will solve this. Should this work, he deserves to be celebrated.

Pascoe was the one who wanted to play football guru, know your limits.

That's five years down the drain which is negligence.

I'm not going to try and sway any Pascoe negators...
They've well made up their minds - Based on what, They couldn't tell you... But here it is as I see it.

The CEO of the club is much of a mouth piece for the Board - A board full of Old Magpies, That hired an old Magpie (With limited Head Coaching credentials)
to coach the team... Where is where most of the hassles laid at Pascoes' feet began - Robbie Gate, The Big 4 etc. etc.
To turn a profit of any number in a game where clubs don't turn profit with the organisation as it stood when he took the job until now is a feet on its own. He handled the Taylor situation, and Hired one of the only coaches to win the comp in the last 5 years... Then handled the exit of a pot load of our best players - Could he have kept them, Well - Never say never - But all those players had contracts in front of them for a very long time and were holding the club to ransom (Holding out for something better) THEY HAD ALL WORKED EXIT STRATEGYS
As I also see it, His biggest mistake was giving said coach full autonomy over his Roster - Or was it a mistake? How many coaches take on a job where they don't get to pick the players... NONE!! (Again - Said coach is 1/3 to win a comp in the last 5 years)
So we got lumbered with another 4 years of problems, The Players Cleary bought "Clearys' Players" take us to the 8 and Pascoe is a genius, They don't and he's incompetent. I don't get it, they're the same players, And the club (Not just the CEO) hired a competent coach to choose them...

I don't even Blame the coach for the Player Performance this year, Let alone the CEO - Ridiculous.
There is 3-4 Games we could have easily won this year, That puts us in the 8 and ends these types of conversations....
Wingers letting in 3-4 Tries in the first 20 or so minutes of a game against a team that had barely scored a try all year are situations where our performances is lacking.

Pascoe may not ever be the worlds best CEO, But he's the CEO of arguably the Games worst run club...
He's done nothing but handle catastrophe after catastrophe
All in all, He's actually going OK.

I'm not disputing his ability to make the balance sheet look good.

To sum up in a few words he's finally taken himself away from football decisions and that took too long.

We heading in the right direction now but ceo don't last as long as he has I'd like some change but doubt it will happen and would be happy for him if he finally tastes some football success. Unfortunately nrl is not judged on corporate sponsors and membership numbers we haven't been in the finals for 10 years obviously

I think he's had to be around the Football decisions for the most part... We sacked a coach, And another walked out in his first 3 years, He was the only man left standing.

Yes was a disaster.

 

[240z]

I always looked at Wests RU as like a cousin to Wests Magpies, growing up in Ashfield as a Wests Jnr.... Many many players criss crossed between the two

And even Wests Tigers - Loti Tiquiri and if you remember Taqele Naiyravoro played for both clubs

 

[240z]

I think I might be the only Pascoe supporter on the planet, But as the CEO to get over 20,000 members at arguably the most unsuccessful club(decade no finals) in the NRL, and to be 1 of only 4 clubs to consistently make a profit at the end of each financial year from their own revenue. Salary cap management is poor but also different and is influenced by more departments at the club eg recruitment. Every year we have exceedingly strong sponsors, some clubs start the year without a primary sponsor. But to get a 70 million dollar center of excellence at the complete expense of state and local government, is some serious political lobbying, Lee H would also been on that one. How do we get all of those free to air games, other than Brisbane on Fridays, I think we get line share of what successful teams get on 9/gem.


Actually the West Tigers put at least $10m of their money into the project

Also, please remember this is just not a COE for the Tigers. It has multiple uses from indoor netball/basketball courts, community centre, creche, West Harbour rugby, a local soccer team. So the local and State govt have provide probably 1/2 of the new Concord complex to other sports and community requirements

And all of that just happened by itself?


Don't get me wrong the Tigers were the major driver for this to happen but there were many other groups assisting this push for the upgrade. You may not realise this but West Harbour rugby have the lease on Concord oval and do for another 10 years. They were also heavily involved in the design for the new stadium

I'm fully aware of West Harbours involvement at Concord... But seriously, It's "West Harbour"


Lol
How many players from West Harbour are currently in the Australian squad and how may others are currently playing for other international teams. Don't diss a club you nothing about champ.

Who Knows, Maybe all of them....
I can tell you how many people care,
It's Rugby - Zero.

For mine... West Harbour should be very thankful Wests Tigers got the facility rebuilt for them to frequent.


They are thankful to the Local and State governments, (West Tigers did not pay for Harbour's portion of the rebuild), but as I stated they are the leaseholders and have been for more that 120 years.
When you disrespect another sport and a club as you did in your posts I have an issue with that

That's OK, I'm not here to glorify a lower level 2nd tier Rugby team. If the Tigers weren't at concord for as long as they have been... It wouldn't be kept the way it has been - And it certainly wouldn't have been re-developed.

"It wouldn't be kept the way it has been"

I don't think you have ever been to Concord - the oval was superb but the facilities were disgraceful. Before the last game was played saw part of the roof come off. Eastern grandstand was completely unusable - toilets didn't work, holes punched in walls. The Scoreboard had not worked for 5 years
Yep well looked after.
It had to be either closed or rebuilt

 

[cochise]

I think I might be the only Pascoe supporter on the planet, But as the CEO to get over 20,000 members at arguably the most unsuccessful club(decade no finals) in the NRL, and to be 1 of only 4 clubs to consistently make a profit at the end of each financial year from their own revenue. Salary cap management is poor but also different and is influenced by more departments at the club eg recruitment. Every year we have exceedingly strong sponsors, some clubs start the year without a primary sponsor. But to get a 70 million dollar center of excellence at the complete expense of state and local government, is some serious political lobbying, Lee H would also been on that one. How do we get all of those free to air games, other than Brisbane on Fridays, I think we get line share of what successful teams get on 9/gem.


Actually the West Tigers put at least $10m of their money into the project

Also, please remember this is just not a COE for the Tigers. It has multiple uses from indoor netball/basketball courts, community centre, creche, West Harbour rugby, a local soccer team. So the local and State govt have provide probably 1/2 of the new Concord complex to other sports and community requirements

And all of that just happened by itself?


Don't get me wrong the Tigers were the major driver for this to happen but there were many other groups assisting this push for the upgrade. You may not realise this but West Harbour rugby have the lease on Concord oval and do for another 10 years. They were also heavily involved in the design for the new stadium

I'm fully aware of West Harbours involvement at Concord... But seriously, It's "West Harbour"


Lol
How many players from West Harbour are currently in the Australian squad and how may others are currently playing for other international teams. Don't diss a club you nothing about champ.

Who Knows, Maybe all of them....
I can tell you how many people care,
It's Rugby - Zero.

For mine... West Harbour should be very thankful Wests Tigers got the facility rebuilt for them to frequent.


They are thankful to the Local and State governments, (West Tigers did not pay for Harbour's portion of the rebuild), but as I stated they are the leaseholders and have been for more that 120 years.
When you disrespect another sport and a club as you did in your posts I have an issue with that

That's OK, I'm not here to glorify a lower level 2nd tier Rugby team. If the Tigers weren't at concord for as long as they have been... It wouldn't be kept the way it has been - And it certainly wouldn't have been re-developed.


"It wouldn't be kept the way it has been"

I don't think you have ever been to Concord - the oval was superb but the facilities were disgraceful. Before the last game was played saw part of the roof come off. Eastern grandstand was completely unusable - toilets didn't work, holes punched in walls. The Scoreboard had not worked for 5 years
Yep well looked after.
It had to be either closed or rebuilt

It wouldn't have been rebuilt without the Wests Tigers.