Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@jirskyr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098208) said:
@old_man_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098161) said:
If you truly don't accept mediocrity then you have to walk away from things in life that are both outside your control and not up to your expectations.

Coming to a forum and discussing the "mediocre" entity is actually called whingeing.

All this tough talk every rough patch from the same people shows that they are very tolerant of failure, since few if any ever actually stop following the club. Why do we have to read the same tantrum over and over again?

I totally agree.

I see a lot of these comments about "accepting mediocrity", coming to mean that if you defend/excuse some aspect of the club function, or fail to adequately criticise, or be overly optimistic, you are "accepting" bad results.

Nobody on here likes when the Tigers lose, be it a single game or failure to make the finals. People who don't care about the results generally don't post on footy forums and probably have a take/leave casual relationship with the NRL.

Nobody here accepts that it's fine to lose. It isn't.

But also, as a fan, what choice do you have? Only 1 team wins every year and only half make the finals. Souths fans aren't happy at getting knocked out of the finals every year, not really any less than Tigers fans being upset about not even being in the finals.

As soon as Tigers start making the finals regularly, expectations will change, and then folks will be unhappy about failing to convert finals opportunities. Ask yourself - are you more angry/upset about the 2012 season, or 2011?

There is literally nothing to be gained anymore by rehashing Cleary or Taylor or Farahgate, things in the past that you can't change, mostly associated with people who aren't at the club any more. You might as well start rehashing the 1989 Grand Final again.

In the past 66 years, since 1953, Magpies and Balmain combined have won TWO premierships (and a further 9-times runners up). There wouldn't be a lot of folks on here who remember the war years when Balmain and Magpies won 4 straight, and it's been slim pickings ever since. I've said it before - how a Wests Tigers fan can be truly upset about failing to make the finals and win comps, I don't know. It's never been a thing for either side of the JV.

Lastly - there's basically nothing you can do about the CEO or players or coach, which is another thing you need to accept. Fan opinion has very little impact on club personnel decisions, and 99.99% of people have no idea what goes on behind closed doors. So you can rail against Pascoe or the "faceless board" all you like, but it serves no purpose other than shouting into the wind.


The last 66 years has finally blunted their optimism. Lol
 
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098203) said:
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098130) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098097) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098096) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098095) said:
@the_third said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098067) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098056) said:
@Tweed_Tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097907) said:
![pascoe2.JPG](/assets/uploads/files/1578282404957-pascoe2.jpg)

Yes Justin ...those 4-5 options @ 9 measure up so well against the player they are replacing

Justin will be the member for Balmain next election ...he is so good a feeding the fungi

Explain why he would be a member for Balmain And not just a forum member like you?

Because he has the political speak down pat

We have 4-5 candidates for the hooker spot

None are worth diddly squat and will be playing out of position ( bar the one who keeps getting injured ) , but they are candidates

That is the problem , we have been become so conditioned to mediocrity and believed so much garbage that has come from one CEO to the next and so on and so forth , and every coach from so on and so forth , and one chairperson to the next and so on and so forth

But the worst thing is this ...we tell them what we want ...one home ground ...competitive footy side ...a board that is not chosen to represent our past entities ...one that is chosen to use their respective strengths to help us move forward both on and off field

I don't support this club to see sound corporate governance ( don't get me wrong , it's nice to be breaking even ) but we need to start moving upwards on field and really it's starting to go backwards

Time flies. We got the independant board in 2014, Pascoe in 2015 and Wests took 75% ownership in 2016.
We should be well and truly seeing results by now.
As far as breaking even goes, did that coincide with the NRL grant increasing to 125% of the salary cap?

But the thing that gets me the most is you see posters on the Forum who obviously have a firm grasp of football and what is going on at the club constantly blame anyone and everyone bar the people they should be blaming .....the decision makers across the board at the club

Its almost like they think if they admit the club is at fault that they as supporters are at fault ..or they can't admit the club is at fault or that would be the beginning of the end as a supporter

There's certainly things the club can be doing better. However the club has been a total basket case virtually from inception so it's going to take more than a season or two to reverse that perception. We've started returning a profit which appears incredibly difficult for a Rugby League club to do (and is a pretty good achievement in a market where there are nine clubs in the Sydney Basin,) we have a premiership winning coach at the helm who appears to be identifying and future proofing talent (which will come in handy if the external perception remains in the meantime that we are a joke,) & whom has got an average, injury riddled roster to the cusp of finals, and we have had a hand in being able to secure a soon-to-be modern facility to base ourselves out of.

The coaching merry-go-round, board sniping, salary cap debacles and publicly prominent issues with players (contract issues, moving players on, lack of Gatorade,) have all seriously hurt us. You can't turn a business around overnight without the budget (and even then more often than not it is not a rapid process,) and the club does not have an endless budget to turn it around quickly.

I too am running out of patience (if I haven't already,) of the failure of on-field results to materialise after repeated reboots of coaching staff, CEO's and iterations of board structure, but due to damage of previous personnel a more pragmatic outlook is required. I believe we are moving forward but it is just taking time. I don't begrudge other fans for having no patience anymore, eight years without finals is absolutely unacceptable, but I don't totally adopt the train of thought that the club is always at fault purely because of previous gaffes.

If you want to keep moving the line in the sand that's fine CB

But as I said it appears that breaking even doesn't excite many of our recruitment hopefuls

So why should we as fans make it a priority in ours thoughts / hopes /dreams

And this is my exact point , if that's what we are supposed to build our dreams on a successful 2020 season on I will study my P&L and General Ledger statements for the next 9 months ..they make far better reading and at least financially I get something from it

Maybe the club should market a polo that has the EBITDA for the last 10 seasons listed on the back ...they way some crap on about its importance it would sell out in minutes

RUGBY LEAGUE club relying on RUGBY LEAGUE results

I'm not saying that anyone has to do anything, just sharing my opinion on the clubs front office progress which I believe has to be going the right way for everything else to follow to remedy the thought that the club is not professional, otherwise it just becomes a cycle of under-performance and chaos, evident by our years of finals wilderness.

Jack Gibson once said that winning started in the front office.

I just tried to offer a thought out opinion rather than a black and white answer one where I feel the club is at as I think it is a bit more nuanced than simply the club is going backwards or forwards. I'm not holding a gun to anyone's head or berating anyone for not sharing that opinion (which I actually said I understand the position of those whom have a less accepting view of where the club is at and/or headed.)
 
@jirskyr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098208) said:
@old_man_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098161) said:
If you truly don't accept mediocrity then you have to walk away from things in life that are both outside your control and not up to your expectations.

Coming to a forum and discussing the "mediocre" entity is actually called whingeing.

All this tough talk every rough patch from the same people shows that they are very tolerant of failure, since few if any ever actually stop following the club. Why do we have to read the same tantrum over and over again?

I totally agree.

I see a lot of these comments about "accepting mediocrity", coming to mean that if you defend/excuse some aspect of the club function, or fail to adequately criticise, or be overly optimistic, you are "accepting" bad results.

Nobody on here likes when the Tigers lose, be it a single game or failure to make the finals. People who don't care about the results generally don't post on footy forums and probably have a take/leave casual relationship with the NRL.

Nobody here accepts that it's fine to lose. It isn't.

But also, as a fan, what choice do you have? Only 1 team wins every year and only half make the finals. Souths fans aren't happy at getting knocked out of the finals every year, not really any less than Tigers fans being upset about not even being in the finals.

As soon as Tigers start making the finals regularly, expectations will change, and then folks will be unhappy about failing to convert finals opportunities. Ask yourself - are you more angry/upset about the 2012 season, or 2011?

There is literally nothing to be gained anymore by rehashing Cleary or Taylor or Farahgate, things in the past that you can't change, mostly associated with people who aren't at the club any more. You might as well start rehashing the 1989 Grand Final again.

In the past 66 years, since 1953, Magpies and Balmain combined have won TWO premierships (and a further 9-times runners up). There wouldn't be a lot of folks on here who remember the war years when Balmain and Magpies won 4 straight, and it's been slim pickings ever since. I've said it before - how a Wests Tigers fan can be truly upset about failing to make the finals and win comps, I don't know. It's never been a thing for either side of the JV.

Lastly - there's basically nothing you can do about the CEO or players or coach, which is another thing you need to accept. Fan opinion has very little impact on club personnel decisions, and 99.99% of people have no idea what goes on behind closed doors. So you can rail against Pascoe or the "faceless board" all you like, but it serves no purpose other than shouting into the wind.

Where do I start

Well bottom to top seems an idea , the club's set up to protect itself and it's heirachy for starters Being a member means nothing really you don't have a say in its leadership Wonder how much more passion our board would have for results if they had members ready to sack them if they failed

You mention not rehashing the past ...that would be fine if we didn't repeat the mistakes we have made repeatedly

And our past on field ...your kidding right ....so we can't comment on our past performances

So the club can make any promise it likes and not deliver and that's ok with you .....I wish I worked for you

And you bring up how only one team wins , 8 miss out making finals , well we have the worst record since our inception and are the only side not to play finals since 2011

Argue it all you like , you accept mediocrity and I'll go as far as saying you eat sleep and bath in mediocrity as far as the WT's go

This isn't a personal thing , but it's funny but the two people thought of when I made the comments last night are the two most vocal against this morning
 
@tigerbalm said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098136) said:
@Strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098126) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098096) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098095) said:
@the_third said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098067) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098056) said:
@Tweed_Tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097907) said:
![pascoe2.JPG](/assets/uploads/files/1578282404957-pascoe2.jpg)

Yes Justin ...those 4-5 options @ 9 measure up so well against the player they are replacing

Justin will be the member for Balmain next election ...he is so good a feeding the fungi

Explain why he would be a member for Balmain And not just a forum member like you?

Because he has the political speak down pat

We have 4-5 candidates for the hooker spot

None are worth diddly squat and will be playing out of position ( bar the one who keeps getting injured ) , but they are candidates

That is the problem , we have been become so conditioned to mediocrity and believed so much garbage that has come from one CEO to the next and so on and so forth , and every coach from so on and so forth , and one chairperson to the next and so on and so forth

But the worst thing is this ...we tell them what we want ...one home ground ...competitive footy side ...a board that is not chosen to represent our past entities ...one that is chosen to use their respective strengths to help us move forward both on and off field

I don't support this club to see sound corporate governance ( don't get me wrong , it's nice to be breaking even ) but we need to start moving upwards on field and really it's starting to go backwards

Time flies. We got the independant board in 2014, Pascoe in 2015 and Wests took 75% ownership in 2016.
We should be well and truly seeing results by now.
As far as breaking even goes, did that coincide with the NRL grant increasing to 125% of the salary cap?


Yea it did ! The team was one of only 3 clubs to turn a profit last year !
But the club is in disarray right ?
Ugh! Every 3rd day you guys trudge this crap out . Now in 4 different threads .
I know you can’t see me , but I don’t care . You guys suck . There’s litterally a thread for this rubbish

If West's were a publicly listed company, turning a profit would be awesome. West's are a footy team that cant win games. Bet hey, at least they're in the black! they can spend that money on a huge signing...oh wait.

People like you are are the reason that mediocrity is accepted around this club and is now part of their DNA.

I'd suggest you stop the personal attacks before it ends in your demise on here.
 
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098216) said:
@jirskyr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098208) said:
@old_man_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098161) said:
If you truly don't accept mediocrity then you have to walk away from things in life that are both outside your control and not up to your expectations.

Coming to a forum and discussing the "mediocre" entity is actually called whingeing.

All this tough talk every rough patch from the same people shows that they are very tolerant of failure, since few if any ever actually stop following the club. Why do we have to read the same tantrum over and over again?

I totally agree.

I see a lot of these comments about "accepting mediocrity", coming to mean that if you defend/excuse some aspect of the club function, or fail to adequately criticise, or be overly optimistic, you are "accepting" bad results.

Nobody on here likes when the Tigers lose, be it a single game or failure to make the finals. People who don't care about the results generally don't post on footy forums and probably have a take/leave casual relationship with the NRL.

Nobody here accepts that it's fine to lose. It isn't.

But also, as a fan, what choice do you have? Only 1 team wins every year and only half make the finals. Souths fans aren't happy at getting knocked out of the finals every year, not really any less than Tigers fans being upset about not even being in the finals.

As soon as Tigers start making the finals regularly, expectations will change, and then folks will be unhappy about failing to convert finals opportunities. Ask yourself - are you more angry/upset about the 2012 season, or 2011?

There is literally nothing to be gained anymore by rehashing Cleary or Taylor or Farahgate, things in the past that you can't change, mostly associated with people who aren't at the club any more. You might as well start rehashing the 1989 Grand Final again.

In the past 66 years, since 1953, Magpies and Balmain combined have won TWO premierships (and a further 9-times runners up). There wouldn't be a lot of folks on here who remember the war years when Balmain and Magpies won 4 straight, and it's been slim pickings ever since. I've said it before - how a Wests Tigers fan can be truly upset about failing to make the finals and win comps, I don't know. It's never been a thing for either side of the JV.

Lastly - there's basically nothing you can do about the CEO or players or coach, which is another thing you need to accept. Fan opinion has very little impact on club personnel decisions, and 99.99% of people have no idea what goes on behind closed doors. So you can rail against Pascoe or the "faceless board" all you like, but it serves no purpose other than shouting into the wind.

Where do I start

Well bottom to top seems an idea , the club's set up to protect itself and it's heirachy for starters Being a member means nothing really you don't have a say in its leadership Wonder how much more passion our board would have for results if they had members ready to sack them if they failed

You mention not rehashing the past ...that would be fine if we didn't repeat the mistakes we have made repeatedly

And our past on field ...your kidding right ....so we can't comment on our past performances

So the club can make any promise it likes and not deliver and that's ok with you .....I wish I worked for you

And you bring up how only one team wins , 8 miss out making finals , well we have the worst record since our inception and are the only side not to play finals since 2011

Argue it all you like , you accept mediocrity and I'll go as far as saying you eat sleep and bath in mediocrity as far as the WT's go

This isn't a personal thing , but it's funny but the two people thought of when I made the comments last night are the two most vocal against this morning

Geez Happy I remember the days when it was all Robbie Farah's fault. At least he was easier to pin point than "the club."
 
Some things I was told over coffee this morning with a very prominent player manager:
AJ to Tigers is done, will be with them before the weekend
Xerri will be announced at the Roosters shortly after the Latrell issue is resolved. Sharks are absolutely filthy with him, look for Josh Morris to head to the Sharks in return.
JAC will be a bulldog. Melbourne will allow him to go this year, want Lewis in return.


That was from a rabbits supporter on one of their forums
 
@Telltails said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098219) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098216) said:
@jirskyr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098208) said:
@old_man_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098161) said:
If you truly don't accept mediocrity then you have to walk away from things in life that are both outside your control and not up to your expectations.

Coming to a forum and discussing the "mediocre" entity is actually called whingeing.

All this tough talk every rough patch from the same people shows that they are very tolerant of failure, since few if any ever actually stop following the club. Why do we have to read the same tantrum over and over again?

I totally agree.

I see a lot of these comments about "accepting mediocrity", coming to mean that if you defend/excuse some aspect of the club function, or fail to adequately criticise, or be overly optimistic, you are "accepting" bad results.

Nobody on here likes when the Tigers lose, be it a single game or failure to make the finals. People who don't care about the results generally don't post on footy forums and probably have a take/leave casual relationship with the NRL.

Nobody here accepts that it's fine to lose. It isn't.

But also, as a fan, what choice do you have? Only 1 team wins every year and only half make the finals. Souths fans aren't happy at getting knocked out of the finals every year, not really any less than Tigers fans being upset about not even being in the finals.

As soon as Tigers start making the finals regularly, expectations will change, and then folks will be unhappy about failing to convert finals opportunities. Ask yourself - are you more angry/upset about the 2012 season, or 2011?

There is literally nothing to be gained anymore by rehashing Cleary or Taylor or Farahgate, things in the past that you can't change, mostly associated with people who aren't at the club any more. You might as well start rehashing the 1989 Grand Final again.

In the past 66 years, since 1953, Magpies and Balmain combined have won TWO premierships (and a further 9-times runners up). There wouldn't be a lot of folks on here who remember the war years when Balmain and Magpies won 4 straight, and it's been slim pickings ever since. I've said it before - how a Wests Tigers fan can be truly upset about failing to make the finals and win comps, I don't know. It's never been a thing for either side of the JV.

Lastly - there's basically nothing you can do about the CEO or players or coach, which is another thing you need to accept. Fan opinion has very little impact on club personnel decisions, and 99.99% of people have no idea what goes on behind closed doors. So you can rail against Pascoe or the "faceless board" all you like, but it serves no purpose other than shouting into the wind.

Where do I start

Well bottom to top seems an idea , the club's set up to protect itself and it's heirachy for starters Being a member means nothing really you don't have a say in its leadership Wonder how much more passion our board would have for results if they had members ready to sack them if they failed

You mention not rehashing the past ...that would be fine if we didn't repeat the mistakes we have made repeatedly

And our past on field ...your kidding right ....so we can't comment on our past performances

So the club can make any promise it likes and not deliver and that's ok with you .....I wish I worked for you

And you bring up how only one team wins , 8 miss out making finals , well we have the worst record since our inception and are the only side not to play finals since 2011

Argue it all you like , you accept mediocrity and I'll go as far as saying you eat sleep and bath in mediocrity as far as the WT's go

This isn't a personal thing , but it's funny but the two people thought of when I made the comments last night are the two most vocal against this morning

Geez Happy I remember the days when it was all Robbie Farah's fault. At least he was easier to pin point than "the club."

Well I'll admit we actually got it right short term bringing he and Benji back , but even that did not bring us to the promised land
 
@tiger05premier said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098223) said:
Some things I was told over coffee this morning with a very prominent player manager:
AJ to Tigers is done, will be with them before the weekend
Xerri will be announced at the Roosters shortly after the Latrell issue is resolved. Sharks are absolutely filthy with him, look for Josh Morris to head to the Sharks in return.
JAC will be a bulldog. Melbourne will allow him to go this year, want Lewis in return.


That was from a rabbits supporter on one of their forums


Didn’t Lewis just re sign? And why would sharks want another back?
 
@Jimmy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098225) said:
@tiger05premier said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098223) said:
Some things I was told over coffee this morning with a very prominent player manager:
AJ to Tigers is done, will be with them before the weekend
Xerri will be announced at the Roosters shortly after the Latrell issue is resolved. Sharks are absolutely filthy with him, look for Josh Morris to head to the Sharks in return.
JAC will be a bulldog. Melbourne will allow him to go this year, want Lewis in return.


That was from a rabbits supporter on one of their forums


Didn’t Lewis just re sign? And why would sharks want another back?

Have no idea

Hope all rumors are wrong though
 
@Jimmy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098225) said:
@tiger05premier said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098223) said:
Some things I was told over coffee this morning with a very prominent player manager:
AJ to Tigers is done, will be with them before the weekend
Xerri will be announced at the Roosters shortly after the Latrell issue is resolved. Sharks are absolutely filthy with him, look for Josh Morris to head to the Sharks in return.
JAC will be a bulldog. Melbourne will allow him to go this year, want Lewis in return.


That was from a rabbits supporter on one of their forums


Didn’t Lewis just re sign? And why would sharks want another back?

Isn't Josh Morris already at the Sharks?
 
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098224) said:
@Telltails said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098219) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098216) said:
@jirskyr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098208) said:
@old_man_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098161) said:
If you truly don't accept mediocrity then you have to walk away from things in life that are both outside your control and not up to your expectations.

Coming to a forum and discussing the "mediocre" entity is actually called whingeing.

All this tough talk every rough patch from the same people shows that they are very tolerant of failure, since few if any ever actually stop following the club. Why do we have to read the same tantrum over and over again?

I totally agree.

I see a lot of these comments about "accepting mediocrity", coming to mean that if you defend/excuse some aspect of the club function, or fail to adequately criticise, or be overly optimistic, you are "accepting" bad results.

Nobody on here likes when the Tigers lose, be it a single game or failure to make the finals. People who don't care about the results generally don't post on footy forums and probably have a take/leave casual relationship with the NRL.

Nobody here accepts that it's fine to lose. It isn't.

But also, as a fan, what choice do you have? Only 1 team wins every year and only half make the finals. Souths fans aren't happy at getting knocked out of the finals every year, not really any less than Tigers fans being upset about not even being in the finals.

As soon as Tigers start making the finals regularly, expectations will change, and then folks will be unhappy about failing to convert finals opportunities. Ask yourself - are you more angry/upset about the 2012 season, or 2011?

There is literally nothing to be gained anymore by rehashing Cleary or Taylor or Farahgate, things in the past that you can't change, mostly associated with people who aren't at the club any more. You might as well start rehashing the 1989 Grand Final again.

In the past 66 years, since 1953, Magpies and Balmain combined have won TWO premierships (and a further 9-times runners up). There wouldn't be a lot of folks on here who remember the war years when Balmain and Magpies won 4 straight, and it's been slim pickings ever since. I've said it before - how a Wests Tigers fan can be truly upset about failing to make the finals and win comps, I don't know. It's never been a thing for either side of the JV.

Lastly - there's basically nothing you can do about the CEO or players or coach, which is another thing you need to accept. Fan opinion has very little impact on club personnel decisions, and 99.99% of people have no idea what goes on behind closed doors. So you can rail against Pascoe or the "faceless board" all you like, but it serves no purpose other than shouting into the wind.

Where do I start

Well bottom to top seems an idea , the club's set up to protect itself and it's heirachy for starters Being a member means nothing really you don't have a say in its leadership Wonder how much more passion our board would have for results if they had members ready to sack them if they failed

You mention not rehashing the past ...that would be fine if we didn't repeat the mistakes we have made repeatedly

And our past on field ...your kidding right ....so we can't comment on our past performances

So the club can make any promise it likes and not deliver and that's ok with you .....I wish I worked for you

And you bring up how only one team wins , 8 miss out making finals , well we have the worst record since our inception and are the only side not to play finals since 2011

Argue it all you like , you accept mediocrity and I'll go as far as saying you eat sleep and bath in mediocrity as far as the WT's go

This isn't a personal thing , but it's funny but the two people thought of when I made the comments last night are the two most vocal against this morning

Geez Happy I remember the days when it was all Robbie Farah's fault. At least he was easier to pin point than "the club."

Well I'll admit we actually got it right short term bringing he and Benji back , but even that did not bring us to the promised land

Just having some fun Happy. Can see and understand your frustration - just have a different way of looking at it for my own mental health - and that requires being a little more objective about our situation.
Life would be much easier as a Roosters supporter - but nah.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098228) said:
@Jimmy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098225) said:
@tiger05premier said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098223) said:
Some things I was told over coffee this morning with a very prominent player manager:
AJ to Tigers is done, will be with them before the weekend
Xerri will be announced at the Roosters shortly after the Latrell issue is resolved. Sharks are absolutely filthy with him, look for Josh Morris to head to the Sharks in return.
JAC will be a bulldog. Melbourne will allow him to go this year, want Lewis in return.


That was from a rabbits supporter on one of their forums


Didn’t Lewis just re sign? And why would sharks want another back?

Isn't Josh Morris already at the Sharks?

Lachlan Lewis extended until 2021
He probably meant Brett - 2021 also
 
@Telltails said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098230) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098224) said:
@Telltails said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098219) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098216) said:
@jirskyr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098208) said:
@old_man_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098161) said:
If you truly don't accept mediocrity then you have to walk away from things in life that are both outside your control and not up to your expectations.

Coming to a forum and discussing the "mediocre" entity is actually called whingeing.

All this tough talk every rough patch from the same people shows that they are very tolerant of failure, since few if any ever actually stop following the club. Why do we have to read the same tantrum over and over again?

I totally agree.

I see a lot of these comments about "accepting mediocrity", coming to mean that if you defend/excuse some aspect of the club function, or fail to adequately criticise, or be overly optimistic, you are "accepting" bad results.

Nobody on here likes when the Tigers lose, be it a single game or failure to make the finals. People who don't care about the results generally don't post on footy forums and probably have a take/leave casual relationship with the NRL.

Nobody here accepts that it's fine to lose. It isn't.

But also, as a fan, what choice do you have? Only 1 team wins every year and only half make the finals. Souths fans aren't happy at getting knocked out of the finals every year, not really any less than Tigers fans being upset about not even being in the finals.

As soon as Tigers start making the finals regularly, expectations will change, and then folks will be unhappy about failing to convert finals opportunities. Ask yourself - are you more angry/upset about the 2012 season, or 2011?

There is literally nothing to be gained anymore by rehashing Cleary or Taylor or Farahgate, things in the past that you can't change, mostly associated with people who aren't at the club any more. You might as well start rehashing the 1989 Grand Final again.

In the past 66 years, since 1953, Magpies and Balmain combined have won TWO premierships (and a further 9-times runners up). There wouldn't be a lot of folks on here who remember the war years when Balmain and Magpies won 4 straight, and it's been slim pickings ever since. I've said it before - how a Wests Tigers fan can be truly upset about failing to make the finals and win comps, I don't know. It's never been a thing for either side of the JV.

Lastly - there's basically nothing you can do about the CEO or players or coach, which is another thing you need to accept. Fan opinion has very little impact on club personnel decisions, and 99.99% of people have no idea what goes on behind closed doors. So you can rail against Pascoe or the "faceless board" all you like, but it serves no purpose other than shouting into the wind.

Where do I start

Well bottom to top seems an idea , the club's set up to protect itself and it's heirachy for starters Being a member means nothing really you don't have a say in its leadership Wonder how much more passion our board would have for results if they had members ready to sack them if they failed

You mention not rehashing the past ...that would be fine if we didn't repeat the mistakes we have made repeatedly

And our past on field ...your kidding right ....so we can't comment on our past performances

So the club can make any promise it likes and not deliver and that's ok with you .....I wish I worked for you

And you bring up how only one team wins , 8 miss out making finals , well we have the worst record since our inception and are the only side not to play finals since 2011

Argue it all you like , you accept mediocrity and I'll go as far as saying you eat sleep and bath in mediocrity as far as the WT's go

This isn't a personal thing , but it's funny but the two people thought of when I made the comments last night are the two most vocal against this morning

Geez Happy I remember the days when it was all Robbie Farah's fault. At least he was easier to pin point than "the club."

Well I'll admit we actually got it right short term bringing he and Benji back , but even that did not bring us to the promised land

Just having some fun Happy. Can see and understand your frustration - just have a different way of looking at it for my own mental health - and that requires being a little more objective about our situation.
Life would be much easier as a Roosters supporter - but nah.

I know you were TT , but I was adversely against bringing them both back
 
@Jimmy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098225) said:
@tiger05premier said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098223) said:
Some things I was told over coffee this morning with a very prominent player manager:
AJ to Tigers is done, will be with them before the weekend
Xerri will be announced at the Roosters shortly after the Latrell issue is resolved. Sharks are absolutely filthy with him, look for Josh Morris to head to the Sharks in return.
JAC will be a bulldog. Melbourne will allow him to go this year, want Lewis in return.


That was from a rabbits supporter on one of their forums


Didn’t Lewis just re sign? And why would sharks want another back?

Well, the sharks would get Morris in return for Xerri. So, one back in / one out.

That would be one of the worst deals in history though for Cronulla. Xerri is an absolute gun and the closest thing I have seen to ET ever. If rumors are true though, he is way, way more offside with his teammates than Matterson was with us so that may be Cronulla's motivation.

It would be typical Rorters...lose a gun in Lattrell, but replace him immediately.
 
@ElleryHanley said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098234) said:
@Jimmy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098225) said:
@tiger05premier said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098223) said:
Some things I was told over coffee this morning with a very prominent player manager:
AJ to Tigers is done, will be with them before the weekend
Xerri will be announced at the Roosters shortly after the Latrell issue is resolved. Sharks are absolutely filthy with him, look for Josh Morris to head to the Sharks in return.
JAC will be a bulldog. Melbourne will allow him to go this year, want Lewis in return.


That was from a rabbits supporter on one of their forums


Didn’t Lewis just re sign? And why would sharks want another back?

Well, the sharks would get Morris in return for Xerri. So, one back in / one out.

That would be one of the worst deals in history though for Cronulla. Xerri is an absolute gun and the closest thing I have seen to ET ever. If rumors are true though, he is way, way more offside with his teammates than Matterson was with us so that may be Cronulla's motivation.

It would be typical Rorters...lose a gun in Lattrell, but replace him immediately.

If this is true can we get Billy Smith from Roosters then? He's wasted in reserve grade.
 
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098097) said:
@gallagher said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098096) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098095) said:
@the_third said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098067) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098056) said:
@Tweed_Tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1097907) said:
![pascoe2.JPG](/assets/uploads/files/1578282404957-pascoe2.jpg)

Yes Justin ...those 4-5 options @ 9 measure up so well against the player they are replacing

Justin will be the member for Balmain next election ...he is so good a feeding the fungi

Explain why he would be a member for Balmain And not just a forum member like you?

Because he has the political speak down pat

We have 4-5 candidates for the hooker spot

None are worth diddly squat and will be playing out of position ( bar the one who keeps getting injured ) , but they are candidates

That is the problem , we have been become so conditioned to mediocrity and believed so much garbage that has come from one CEO to the next and so on and so forth , and every coach from so on and so forth , and one chairperson to the next and so on and so forth

But the worst thing is this ...we tell them what we want ...one home ground ...competitive footy side ...a board that is not chosen to represent our past entities ...one that is chosen to use their respective strengths to help us move forward both on and off field

I don't support this club to see sound corporate governance ( don't get me wrong , it's nice to be breaking even ) but we need to start moving upwards on field and really it's starting to go backwards

Time flies. We got the independant board in 2014, Pascoe in 2015 and Wests took 75% ownership in 2016.
We should be well and truly seeing results by now.
As far as breaking even goes, did that coincide with the NRL grant increasing to 125% of the salary cap?

But the thing that gets me the most is you see posters on the Forum who obviously have a firm grasp of football and what is going on at the club constantly blame anyone and everyone bar the people they should be blaming .....the decision makers across the board at the club

Its almost like they think if they admit the club is at fault that they as supporters are at fault ..or they can't admit the club is at fault or that would be the beginning of the end as a supporter

We also rarely see anyone that blame the board have anything more constructive to say than "fire the board". Yeah, like that's just going to magically fix the problem.
 
@tiger05premier said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098223) said:
Some things I was told over coffee this morning with a very prominent player manager:
AJ to Tigers is done, will be with them before the weekend
Xerri will be announced at the Roosters shortly after the Latrell issue is resolved. Sharks are absolutely filthy with him, look for Josh Morris to head to the Sharks in return.
JAC will be a bulldog. Melbourne will allow him to go this year, want Lewis in return.


That was from a rabbits supporter on one of their forums

I'd say that's all one person's imagination.
 
@Jimmy said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098225) said:
@tiger05premier said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098223) said:
Some things I was told over coffee this morning with a very prominent player manager:
AJ to Tigers is done, will be with them before the weekend
Xerri will be announced at the Roosters shortly after the Latrell issue is resolved. Sharks are absolutely filthy with him, look for Josh Morris to head to the Sharks in return.
JAC will be a bulldog. Melbourne will allow him to go this year, want Lewis in return.


That was from a rabbits supporter on one of their forums


Didn’t Lewis just re sign? And why would sharks want another back?


Of course the rumour provides the best outcome for South's.
 
@jirskyr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098209) said:
@trentrunciman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1098207) said:
was at an NBL game last year

I'll stop you there. How are the Singapore Slingers doing?

About as well as the Adelaide Rams and Western Reds and nowhere near as well as the Sydney Kings whose average crowd is dangerously close to that of an average NRL crowd.
 

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