Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[pawsandclaws1]

I would be surprised if Talau was not happy with Madge over training. He grew up being trained by his dad who would work him just as hard if not harder than Madge. There’s a whole article of him talking about it

Shake a tree to see what comes loose. Perhaps we should be targeting Dunster? Seems to have lively pace and is a Kiwi?

 

[JC99]

I would be surprised if Talau was not happy with Madge over training. He grew up being trained by his dad who would work him just as hard if not harder than Madge. There’s a whole article of him talking about it

Shake a tree to see what comes loose. Perhaps we should be targeting Dunster? Seems to have lively pace and is a Kiwi?

Dunster can play for sure but he’s raw like Talau was start of this year, we’ve already spent time on Tommy getting Dunster would be like starting over. Unless tommy pushes for a release which I doubt then no need to do it

 

[Tigerbuck63]

Would love too see Mbye find his confidence and speed at fullback,but if he performs anything like the last 2 seasons then he won’t be the answer

Mybe actually played better at fullback in the few games he did than any other position.
In relation to centre he is a liability rushes out of the line too much rather see than option ceased.
Might also be a 5/8 option now that Benji has moved on along with AD. Still shows we are light with our Spine.

 

[tigeress]

Looking at our roster and depth our recruitment targets should be obvious.

Middle Forwards: Twal, Mikalele, Utoikamanu, Tamou, Musgrove, Aloai, Packer, McIntyre

Edge Forwards: Leilua, Garner, Blore, MCK
Hookers: Liddle, Simpkin
Halfbacks: Brooks, Madden
5/8: Reynolds, Walters
Centres: Mbye, Leilua, Talau, Hoffman
Wing: Nofa, Kepoa, Kei, Bradley
Fullback: Douihei

Douehi and Mbye can cover 5/8, Centre and Fullback. Mbye/Walters also at hooker

In a perfect world Packer is moved on to give us more balance in the cap and also roster spots. Way too many middle forwards with a lack of depth and talent in the outside backs and halves.

Fox or Suali as a fullback with Douihei to 5/8 improves the team and depth. We need a fullback, edge back rowers and centre/wing.
Releasing Garner with our lack of depth is a questionable move.
Where’s Momo?

Where's our decent goal kicker:astonished:

 

[Tigerbuck63]

Looking at our roster and depth our recruitment targets should be obvious.

Middle Forwards: Twal, Mikalele, Utoikamanu, Tamou, Musgrove, Aloai, Packer, McIntyre

Edge Forwards: Leilua, Garner, Blore, MCK
Hookers: Liddle, Simpkin
Halfbacks: Brooks, Madden
5/8: Reynolds, Walters
Centres: Mbye, Leilua, Talau, Hoffman
Wing: Nofa, Kepoa, Kei, Bradley
Fullback: Douihei

Douehi and Mbye can cover 5/8, Centre and Fullback. Mbye/Walters also at hooker

In a perfect world Packer is moved on to give us more balance in the cap and also roster spots. Way too many middle forwards with a lack of depth and talent in the outside backs and halves.

Fox or Suali as a fullback with Douihei to 5/8 improves the team and depth. We need a fullback, edge back rowers and centre/wing.
Releasing Garner with our lack of depth is a questionable move.
Where’s Momo?

Where's our decent goal kicker:astonished:

AD seemed to step up but also is a bit hot and cold.
Momo is back and he can goal kick.
Mybe should not be anymore.

 

[beachtiger]

On Talau isn’t he only signed until end of next season? If so he’s a free agent from Nov 1 so we don’t have a lot of influence over his decision making.


We don’t have to release him to Parra, until the end of the 2021 season.
Especially after how Parra acted over Stefano.

Yeah mate couldn’t agree more

 

[jirskyr]

Every time a player gets a sniff from another club there will be some rumour about possible problems with Maguire and his style of training as the reason. All clubs are looking for player replacements and usually to get them are willing to pay more than what they are on. The elite players can pick and choose clubs but for the rest money is massive motivator.

SMH published this today
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/inside-parra-s-capitulation-arthur-at-crossroads-as-eels-eye-change-20201011-p56417.html

>Arthur tried to use the chorus of criticism surrounding his team to light a fire that would inspire a run for the title. Unfortunately, the run never came. Arthur, an old-school players' coach, has been afforded every opportunity to prove his way is the right way.
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>The club has backed him. But while his way isn't necessarily the wrong way, the club will now demand he works with head of football Mark O'Neill in the off-season to find a better way to ensure results improve in 2021.
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>Arthur has been somewhat reluctant to embrace the power of mindfulness when it comes to impacting results with the coach prioritising football matters over mental ones.
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>While the players all love playing under Arthur given how staunch he is in their support, there is a concern at the club and an understanding from the coach that mollycoddling the players may have only exacerbated a potential mental weakness.

Interesting that its the exact opposite of the Madge "concerns". Obviously the argument is that a middle-ground approach might work best, but I highly doubt any head coach is so polar in their approach, i.e. only one way or the opposite with no in-between.

Seems, rather, that young adults 2020 are increasingly difficult to deal with. Too strict, in an effort to engender toughness, and they complain about their wellbeing. Too sympathetic and they complain about you not helping them achieve mental toughness.

Always sounds a weird one to me: that some kids want to be professional footballers and get belted by huge men every weekend, but training is too hard.

 

[the_third]

we don't have to release him to Parra as he hasn't signed a contract

 

[HabboTiger]

Thomas mikaele was liking Instagram posts about Souths approach to training and how they took it easy during covid to time their run and peak at finals.

Given what we hear about Madge and the younger guys thought this was interesting

Apologies not signings related

 

[krissy]

Rumour going around on LU Talau is going to eels,wants out as he clashes with Maguire,anyone else heard of this


Benji mentioned on FOX that 'younger players' did not react well to Madge's style / Madge needs to treat them all differently / some young players were scared of getting dropped...pretty obvious the only young player who fits all those categories was Tommy.

I doubt we would release him though...especially not to them.

Let’s face it, the whole team are younger players to old man Benji. Players should be scared of being dropped, you don’t want to be dropped, do better. Big boys pants on.

 

[Spartan117]

Instagram posts about Souths approach to training and how they took it easy during covid to time their run and peak at finals.
Given what we hear about Madge and the younger guys though

That Training style at times a good Idea.

Souths have been Semi finals regulars whilst the Tigers are a club that has been a failure for the largest part of our 20 years.

We havent got the culture on or off the field that has a hard edge to the players.

 

[TheDaBoss]

Looking at our roster and depth our recruitment targets should be obvious.

Middle Forwards: Twal, Mikalele, Utoikamanu, Tamou, Musgrove, Aloai, Packer, McIntyre

Edge Forwards: Leilua, Garner, Blore, MCK
Hookers: Liddle, Simpkin
Halfbacks: Brooks, Madden
5/8: Reynolds, Walters
Centres: Mbye, Leilua, Talau, Hoffman
Wing: Nofa, Kepoa, Kei, Bradley
Fullback: Douihei

Douehi and Mbye can cover 5/8, Centre and Fullback. Mbye/Walters also at hooker

In a perfect world Packer is moved on to give us more balance in the cap and also roster spots. Way too many middle forwards with a lack of depth and talent in the outside backs and halves.

Fox or Suali as a fullback with Douihei to 5/8 improves the team and depth. We need a fullback, edge back rowers and centre/wing.
Releasing Garner with our lack of depth is a questionable move.
Where’s Momo?

Where's our decent goal kicker:astonished:


AD seemed to step up but also is a bit hot and cold.
Momo is back and he can goal kick.
Mybe should not be anymore.

AD is our GK, was hindered by his ankle injury

idk if Momo has been practicing at storm, but either of them should be practicing hard at it over the off season

 

[pawsandclaws1]

I would be surprised if Talau was not happy with Madge over training. He grew up being trained by his dad who would work him just as hard if not harder than Madge. There’s a whole article of him talking about it

Shake a tree to see what comes loose. Perhaps we should be targeting Dunster? Seems to have lively pace and is a Kiwi?

Yes true. Dunster is a bit like Kepaoa if we are looking for talent and pace.

 

[Aceshigh]

I can tell you that Souths didn’t exactly put their feet up and smoke their pipes , They are a super fit team , plz don’t believe anything Bennett has to say , he is a wily ol fox don’t worry bout that

 

[ElleryHanley]

Rumour going around on LU Talau is going to eels,wants out as he clashes with Maguire,anyone else heard of this


Benji mentioned on FOX that 'younger players' did not react well to Madge's style / Madge needs to treat them all differently / some young players were scared of getting dropped...pretty obvious the only young player who fits all those categories was Tommy.

I doubt we would release him though...especially not to them.

And some of the older players too by the sound of it! But by younger players he could mean Seyfarth, Hoffman, Asu, BJ, Garner, Walters. I mean, they're all young right?

Yes, but Tommy and Garner were the obvious ones as they were constantly dropped / back / dropped.

 

[diedpretty]

Rumour going around on LU Talau is going to eels,wants out as he clashes with Maguire,anyone else heard of this

Wouldn't make any sense in that apparently Melbourne wanted him but we wouldn't budge?

But if true we'd better get something good in return and Maguire has many rights to be questioned if his approach has clearly put players off him.

Or if true maybe we should be questioning Talau's professionalism.

 

[ElleryHanley]

On Talau isn’t he only signed until end of next season? If so he’s a free agent from Nov 1 so we don’t have a lot of influence over his decision making.

The problem would be that 'if' he signed for Parra for 2022, would you want to keep him?

He is not an established player where you go "okay, he will give me 20 strong games before he leaves".

He is still developing and will have tons of ups and downs. You can ride those out if you will benefit long term. If he signed elsewhere, it is a wasted year to keep developing him.

 

[weststigerman]

On Talau isn’t he only signed until end of next season? If so he’s a free agent from Nov 1 so we don’t have a lot of influence over his decision making.

The problem would be that 'if' he signed for Parra for 2022, would you want to keep him?

He is not an established player where you go "okay, he will give me 20 strong games before he leaves".

He is still developing and will have tons of ups and downs. You can ride those out if you will benefit long term. If he signed elsewhere, it is a wasted year to keep developing him.

He's signed with us until end of 2022.

 

[weststigerman]

I'm not concerned about losing Talau since he's likely signed up and seems to have the work ethic of a winner.

However, Blore has shown on numerous occasions it's only a matter of time before he becomes a top player. I really hope we lock him up before November 1.

 

[Tim Sheens]

Rumour going around on LU Talau is going to eels,wants out as he clashes with Maguire,anyone else heard of this

Jennings' career almost certainly finished, replacement needed, sounds about right.