Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@JC99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1286514) said:
@Leck said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1286501) said:
Just saw this from Blythy (no idea who he is?) on Zero Tackle

https://www.zerotackle.com/blythy-believes-50-fearless-predictions-for-2021-50-41-nrl-88494/

**Madge’s failed reunions**

Michael Maguire debuted a lot of talent in his time at South Sydney, and despite good relationships, will fail in his bid to reunite with two of them. Cameron McInnes and Angus Crichton, both members of the 2020 NSW squad, are high on his recruitment list, but the club will be used as a pawn as both re-sign for more money with their current clubs.

Bloke on Twitter who thinks he’s a journalist. He’s like clarkey but with less credibility lol

Didn’t think that was possible, scrap that post
 
@jadtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1286512) said:
@TIGERPOWER said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1286506) said:
@Everything-WT said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1286496) said:
Laurie included as a package deal with Mansour. Don’t be surprised if Parra or even the Bulldogs come swooping in last minute though...

This makes sense. I could live with mAnsour if Laurie is here.



I couldn't its a backward step in every way.**Mansour will be holding players back not only for 2021 but every other year the slug is signed for.**By the end of next year we will be trying to offload him and paying for him out ot of our cap.Terrible signing

Alot of people on here saying that
But he is only holding back players if they are not good enough
We know from experience that madge will drop Mansour if he doesn't perform
Madge will play the best player we have available every week
Competition in positions is what we all wanted
Now we are worried because the young guys are going to have to compete with Mansour for a wing spot
If Mansour does come then we will have 3 or 4 Panthers players next year if you include Laurie
Maybe that's Madges plan
Strategic moves to raid the Panthers team
 
@Cairnstigers said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1286519) said:
@jadtiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1286512) said:
@TIGERPOWER said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1286506) said:
@Everything-WT said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1286496) said:
Laurie included as a package deal with Mansour. Don’t be surprised if Parra or even the Bulldogs come swooping in last minute though...

This makes sense. I could live with mAnsour if Laurie is here.



I couldn't its a backward step in every way.**Mansour will be holding players back not only for 2021 but every other year the slug is signed for.**By the end of next year we will be trying to offload him and paying for him out ot of our cap.Terrible signing

Alot of people on here saying that
But he is only holding back players if they are not good enough
We know from experience that madge will drop Mansour if he doesn't perform
Madge will play the best player we have available every week
Competition in positions is what we all wanted
Now we are worried because the young guys are going to have to compete with Mansour for a wing spot
If Mansour does come then we will have 3 or 4 Panthers players next year if you include Laurie
Maybe that's Madges plan
Strategic moves to raid the Panthers team



I have no problems with giving young panther players a path into first grade with us but i do have massive issues with signing an older player who is well past his best and on decent money blocking our young talent just to try and attract them here
 
Mansour basically has the same strengths as Nofa but is a better defender. If the signing does happen it will be interesting to see how much 'sentimentality' for Nofa impacts on Madge's decision...
 
@Leck said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1286485) said:
@the_third said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1286469) said:
Mansour is a complete waste of cash and a roster spot. Ridiculous rumour and if true Pascoe needs to be shown the door

I agree that he’s not as quick as he used to be but his defensive tackle efficiency is at 81%, Nofa by comparison is 69%. The average for first grade wingers in the NRL is 74%.

The Sauce would bring us some stability and crafty options on our left edge attack, so I’m all for it if he signs.


Mansour is basically Nofa.....with much better D.

I would take him any day over Nofa for 100-200 less.
 
If we can move on cini as part of the deal too, then I'm all for it. The issue for me isn't so much mansour, it's that he takes up our last top 30 spot
 
We would be silly to get mansour! He blocks our juniors from getting experience! People like talau,Momo and AJ need to be playing to get better. Don’t be surprised if we loose them in the future if they don’t get game time! Talau and Momo can be approached in November 2021. Penrith is literally getting rid of mansour just so they can give Staines an opportunity. Big mistake from us if we get mansour.
 
@ElleryHanley said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1286522) said:
@Leck said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1286485) said:
@the_third said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1286469) said:
Mansour is a complete waste of cash and a roster spot. Ridiculous rumour and if true Pascoe needs to be shown the door

I agree that he’s not as quick as he used to be but his defensive tackle efficiency is at 81%, Nofa by comparison is 69%. The average for first grade wingers in the NRL is 74%.

The Sauce would bring us some stability and crafty options on our left edge attack, so I’m all for it if he signs.


Mansour is basically Nofa.....with much better D.

I would take him any day over Nofa for 100-200 less.

Much better? He’s not that great a defender. He’s slower and doesn’t score nearly as many tries either. I hate when people say this but I really think he only scored due to having good players around him in Luai, Crichton and Kikau.

He didn’t score nearly anything as good as Nofa did, and the year before when Penrith went average he scored a whopping 1 try in 19 games playing on the wing.
 
Mansour is 3-4 years past his best and slow. If we sign him and Nofo for 2-3 years, we are presented with two scenarios:

- AJ, Talau and Gebbie (maybe) are blocked for the next 2-3 years from playing 1st grade.
- OR , one of them breaks through and we have Mansour sitting there in reserves on decent coin.
 
Nofa at least showed passion and aggression and some speed.Harry as well as being a good 9 gave us that extra speed and spark.We appeared to lack that extra yard of speed and enthusiasm in the backline that the better sides have.I hope we find it in the future.
 
Geez I hope we don't sign Mansour. I don't think Madge picks him unless he deserves a spot but I also see him as a wasted spot on good dollars.

I can understand signing Mansour for less dollars and letting Nofo go. I don't think that is a good result for the club but it's better than signing Nofo on crazy dollars.
 
What did we lack last year? Consistency josh brings consistency
I’ve heard off 1 of my mates who plays nrl that josh 1 of the hardest trainers and eats nothing but healthy food and treats his body like a temple this will no doubt help him compete at the top level for a few extra years
If we get Laurie in the deal and release mbye this improves our roster and is a great move
 
@JC99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1286515) said:
Isn’t Mansour on big money at Penrith? Doubt they throw in more than half. We’d be paying a decent amount if we got him.

You’d assume he on 500k we’d pay 300k panthers 200k not bad considering nofo on 500 or more
 
It’s as if people don’t want to have a better team next year unless WT sign everyone’s pin up boy.

Mansour improves our 2021 team, and if he helps get us higher up on the ladder it improves our chances to become a more desirable destination.

Even better if it gets us Laurie. I’ll back Hartigan on this because he’s shown he doesn’t pay overs.
 
@weststigerman said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1286538) said:
It’s as if people don’t want to have a better team next year unless WT sign everyone’s pin up boy.

Mansour improves our 2021 team, and if he helps get us higher up on the ladder it improves our chances to become a more desirable destination.

Even better if it gets us Laurie. I’ll back Hartigan on this because he’s shown he doesn’t pay overs.

How does he improve the team? It’s a sideways move at best, that comes with the consequence of slowing the development of our young players. Sure he’ll get metres up the middle for us but he’s not a game breaker, we’ve already got a winger who’s of the same mould but does it all better.

The only positive is possibly getting Laurie early possibly. Mansour will be solid, but nothing special. Would rather have pace and height on the wing.
 
I've said it before.
If mansour is blocking your path to first grade then you're not ready for first grade.
Madge has shown he doesn't care about reputations.
 
Mansour is on less then 400k at Penrith so given they need to get rid of him we are prob looking at paying under 200k/yr for last years grand final winger who averaged 180 meters, 21 line breaks and had 65 tackle breaks in 2020. He is a great trainer who will set a great example for our young players and will mean our sets will get off to great starts on either side of the field plus his defence is good.
 
@ElleryHanley said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1286522) said:
@Leck said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1286485) said:
@the_third said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1286469) said:
Mansour is a complete waste of cash and a roster spot. Ridiculous rumour and if true Pascoe needs to be shown the door

I agree that he’s not as quick as he used to be but his defensive tackle efficiency is at 81%, Nofa by comparison is 69%. The average for first grade wingers in the NRL is 74%.

The Sauce would bring us some stability and crafty options on our left edge attack, so I’m all for it if he signs.


Mansour is basically Nofa.....with much better D.

I would take him any day over Nofa for 100-200 less.


If we sign Mansour we “Might” get Laurie then we block the future development of our young players.
Then we are stuck with an ageing winger for 3 years, “another Reynolds, Packer, Mbye” type player that we are trying to rid ourselves of now.
This also HELPS Penrith re-sign Crichton, ending any hope that we might possibly jag him.
A big NO for Mansour as far as I’m concerned, I never want to help the scumbag Ivan.
 

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