Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Tim Sheens]

So much for his dream of being close to family and wanting to play with the Tigers! On field success can change a person's mind so quickly.

This guy is our biggest loss ever, especially seeing that a tall, speedy winger is what we lack most. He was always gonna be a star, anyone with half an idea about rugby league could see that. It's just such a shame that our loss is Melbourne's gain - a team that really doesn't need any extra help to be successful. Still, kudos to them for recognising, nurturing and using the talent, while we were ignoring it.

We weren't ignoring it. Pascoe asked his manager to hold off on signing anything till he got back from a trip. The manager didn't. Then JAC wanted to stay after he had signed.

How many times do we need to repeat the scenario GNR - Some people on here want to believe that we let him go. They can't handle the truth!!!!

I didn't say we let him go, I know about the story that he signed with Melbourne while Pascoe was away, no doubt egged on by his manager who probably saw dollar signs. What I did say was that he wasn't really being used much in first grade by the coach at the time, who preferred Rankin over him, though he was clearly a better wing prospect. The only time JAC got a go was when Rankin was injured or had to be shifted to fill another position.

As far as JAC (and all of us for that matter) was concerned, JT was going to be the coach again this season and Rankin was also still with us. Hence, I guess he thought his chances of playing first grade were minimal, so he jumped over to a club where he would be able to get a first grade gig on a regular basis, replacing the departing Koro.

So whilst we didn't let him go as such, I blame our coaches for not recognising and nurturing his raw, but obvious talent enough last season to give him the incentive to stay with us. With Taylor gone, things could've been different, but as I said already, none of us knew that was going to happen when it did. It's a shame the way it played out, but I still reckon it could've been avoided if Taylor had've been able to recognise what most could already see in JAC and given him a fair go.

It is a shame, but not fair to say that his talent had not been recognised as he was brought over to the club from the sharks u20 and it is extremely rare for any second tier player to be used from early in the season due to salary cap. He had been told to work on a few things in his game and was doing so to play top grade on a regular basis and was doing so, trouble is he signed elsewhere in the process.

Alex Twal was a much more recognised player in many ways a similar position this year except that he was not new to the eels and seems they didn't put up as much of a fight to keep him, so it happens.

 

[LARDS]

This Moylan rumour makes sense. Dylan Edwards is a gun fullback on a small deal and Moylan is on big money.
Moylan and Cleary don't work as a half 5/8 combo and the Panthers have Cartwright and Tyrone May who may be better with Cleary at 5/8\. Moylan likes Cleary as coach and has fallen out with Hook after being demoted as captain. Tigers have cap space and Penrith are tight against the cap.

So Moylan is contracted to Penriff for next 4 years, yeah I'd take him providing Penriff pay 50% of his contract for the next 4 years…. it's about time WT got someone else to pay for players playing for us

By the way it sounds it's going to be Moylan wanting out, not Penrith moving him on (if there is actually any substance to this). If he were to leave Penrith he'd have to ask for a release from his contract. There's no way Penrith would pay his freight for the next 4 years.

In the smh article Penrith has said they would consider releasing him if he gets a big money offer. That's code for "we don't want to pay for him playing at another club"

 

[TYGA]

This Moylan rumour makes sense. Dylan Edwards is a gun fullback on a small deal and Moylan is on big money.
Moylan and Cleary don't work as a half 5/8 combo and the Panthers have Cartwright and Tyrone May who may be better with Cleary at 5/8\. Moylan likes Cleary as coach and has fallen out with Hook after being demoted as captain. Tigers have cap space and Penrith are tight against the cap.

So Moylan is contracted to Penriff for next 4 years, yeah I'd take him providing Penriff pay 50% of his contract for the next 4 years…. it's about time WT got someone else to pay for players playing for us

I think he is young enough with a lot of talent someone will take him. I don't think he's worth the price tag but there's no way Penrith pay his salary not even 1%.

 

[newtiger]

Where there is smoke there is fire. Supposedly has had a falling out with the coach and with their recent success without him, they may not see him as the important player they once did.

I think that it is more a falling out with his teammates, TMM insisted that the alledged affair with a teammates partner was not him it was another player.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Not that i believe it to be true, but let's say it was, would we still have the cap space for him? Do we have any spots in the top 30 that still need filling?

 

[newtiger]

I still think that a quality secondrower is what we need to fill the bus.

 

[Geo]

Not that i believe it to be true, but let's say it was, would we still have the cap space for him? Do we have any spots in the top 30 that still need filling?

2 spots left with $$$ still in the kick..

 

[TCL]

I still think that a quality secondrower is what we need to fill the bus.

It's fun talking about Moylan joining but second row is our weakness, along with genuine pace. We used to be as big a threat to oppositions inside our own 30 as we were inside the thier 30.

Now days we can't score from a clean break.

 

[Pawsandclaws]

I still think that a quality secondrower is what we need to fill the bus.

It's fun talking about Moylan joining but second row is our weakness, along with genuine pace. We used to be as big a threat to oppositions inside our own 30 as we were inside the thier 30.

Now days we can't score from a clean break.

If the Roosters want Moylan, I'd be more interested in Manu or other outside backs. We need pace, pace and more pace in the outside backs. Also RFM from the Bulldogs would be nice.

 

[Nelson]

I still think that a quality secondrower is what we need to fill the bus.

It's fun talking about Moylan joining but second row is our weakness, along with genuine pace. We used to be as big a threat to oppositions inside our own 30 as we were inside the thier 30.

Now days we can't score from a clean break.

If the Roosters want Moylan, I'd be more interested in Manu or other outside backs. We need pace, pace and more pace in the outside backs. Also RFM from the Bulldogs would be nice.

Manu can't tackle. Not a finished product.

 

[newtiger]

I still think that a quality secondrower is what we need to fill the bus.

It's fun talking about Moylan joining but second row is our weakness, along with genuine pace. We used to be as big a threat to oppositions inside our own 30 as we were inside the thier 30.

Now days we can't score from a clean break.

If the Roosters want Moylan, I'd be more interested in Manu or other outside backs. We need pace, pace and more pace in the outside backs. Also RFM from the Bulldogs would be nice.

Josh Jackson would be better!!!

 

[Tigerdon]

I still think that a quality secondrower is what we need to fill the bus.

It's fun talking about Moylan joining but second row is our weakness, along with genuine pace. We used to be as big a threat to oppositions inside our own 30 as we were inside the thier 30.

Now days we can't score from a clean break.

If the Roosters want Moylan, I'd be more interested in Manu or other outside backs. We need pace, pace and more pace in the outside backs. Also RFM from the Bulldogs would be nice.

Manu can't tackle. Not a finished product.

Let the Dogs develop him further then poach him

 

[jadtiger]

I still think that a quality secondrower is what we need to fill the bus.

Agreed i look at what we have this year (2nd row) and what we have signed for next year and it still looks short on quality

 

[Pawsandclaws]

I still think that a quality secondrower is what we need to fill the bus.

It's fun talking about Moylan joining but second row is our weakness, along with genuine pace. We used to be as big a threat to oppositions inside our own 30 as we were inside the thier 30.

Now days we can't score from a clean break.

If the Roosters want Moylan, I'd be more interested in Manu or other outside backs. We need pace, pace and more pace in the outside backs. Also RFM from the Bulldogs would be nice.

Manu can't tackle. Not a finished product.

That's true but I have confidence in Cleary and his ability to get the best from players.

 

[Nelson]

I still think that a quality secondrower is what we need to fill the bus.

Agreed i look at what we have this year (2nd row) and what we have signed for next year and it still looks short on quality

Yeah well there are none available and there has not been any for some time. We have plenty of options we just have to hope competition for spots brings out the best in the likes of McQueen, ET, Eisenhuth, Lawrence, Aloiai and Marsters.

 

[earl]

I don't think our backrow looks that bad now. McQueen, ET, Eisenhuth, Lawrence, Aloiai, Sue (at lock) and Marsters give us plenty of options. Someone else may kick on as well. We have bought Rochow and the young player from Newcastle.

I'm not really worried about our pack. I think ideally we'd have some more speed in the outside backs but our outside backs may be good enough and they will have their strengths. We won't have an undersized backline.

Our spine to me is the issue but they may go well.

I'd love to see us buy a fullback.

 

[THE_POM]

This Moylan rumour makes sense. Dylan Edwards is a gun fullback on a small deal and Moylan is on big money.
Moylan and Cleary don't work as a half 5/8 combo and the Panthers have Cartwright and Tyrone May who may be better with Cleary at 5/8\. Moylan likes Cleary as coach and has fallen out with Hook after being demoted as captain. Tigers have cap space and Penrith are tight against the cap.

So Moylan is contracted to Penriff for next 4 years, yeah I'd take him providing Penriff pay 50% of his contract for the next 4 years…. it's about time WT got someone else to pay for players playing for us

Under new NRL rules the existing club would only need to cover 2 years not the whole 4 like it used to be. But any terms within that 2 year period can be meet such as 20%/80% or even 50/50

 

[Chicken_Faced_Killa]

This Moylan thing is a bit baffling he's not going to play in a position we have a high need for and limits improving our pack further which is what will bring success

 

[Born_tiger]

Any news on Jamal Idris in 2018 and how is recovery is going?

Yeah he's still on the show with a couple of weeks to go. It looks tight between him and the chef on the blue team for the GF in a tight one.

 

[Geo]

I don't think our backrow looks that bad now. McQueen, ET, Eisenhuth, Lawrence, Aloiai, Sue (at lock) and Marsters give us plenty of options. Someone else may kick on as well. We have bought Rochow and the young player from Newcastle.

I'm not really worried about our pack. I think ideally we'd have some more speed in the outside backs but our outside backs may be good enough and they will have their strengths. We won't have an undersized backline.

Our spine to me is the issue but they may go well.

I'd love to see us buy a fullback.

Moylan plays Fullback Earl…