Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350607) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350603) said:
@upthetigers said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350598) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350589) said:
This is one of the most interesting articles I have read. Cleary's comment on Brooks is interesting - 'I'm not sure what he is doing now'.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/threatened-species-how-size-and-cut-and-paste-coaching-are-smothering-creative-halves-20210430-p57np3.html

I'm not sure Luke knows what he is doing either.

He literally can't even kick a grubber. You don't suddenly lose that because of a new coach, mentally he must be all over the place. He played well in 2019 for madge which a lot of people forget

"Elsewhere other coaches simply turn their halves into robots'

Let that resonate.

Again, that doesn't somehow take away his ability to force a dropout. It's all mental and he's struggling big time to overcome the barriers in his mind.
 
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350614) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350607) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350603) said:
@upthetigers said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350598) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350589) said:
This is one of the most interesting articles I have read. Cleary's comment on Brooks is interesting - 'I'm not sure what he is doing now'.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/threatened-species-how-size-and-cut-and-paste-coaching-are-smothering-creative-halves-20210430-p57np3.html

I'm not sure Luke knows what he is doing either.

He literally can't even kick a grubber. You don't suddenly lose that because of a new coach, mentally he must be all over the place. He played well in 2019 for madge which a lot of people forget

"Elsewhere other coaches simply turn their halves into robots'

Let that resonate.

Again, that doesn't somehow take away his ability to force a dropout. It's all mental and he's struggling big time to overcome the barriers in his mind.

It is one of the reasons given in the article for the lack of quality halves. Watch young Deardon come ahead under Payten's tutelage. I wish we had him at WTs.
 
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350614) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350607) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350603) said:
@upthetigers said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350598) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350589) said:
This is one of the most interesting articles I have read. Cleary's comment on Brooks is interesting - 'I'm not sure what he is doing now'.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/threatened-species-how-size-and-cut-and-paste-coaching-are-smothering-creative-halves-20210430-p57np3.html

I'm not sure Luke knows what he is doing either.

He literally can't even kick a grubber. You don't suddenly lose that because of a new coach, mentally he must be all over the place. He played well in 2019 for madge which a lot of people forget

"Elsewhere other coaches simply turn their halves into robots'

Let that resonate.

Again, that doesn't somehow take away his ability to force a dropout. It's all mental and he's struggling big time to overcome the barriers in his mind.

Lack of confidence I call it !
 
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350548) said:
Just some retention updates:

Jacon Liddle, Tom Amone & Zac Cini have 1 year deals now on the table for 2022. Liddle's management want 2 & wouldn't surprise me if they add the extra year, Bulldogs keen on Liddle also but he seems to be a back up if they can't land a big fish like Smith or Daryl Clark.

Early days but a 2 year deal being discussed for Thomas Mikaele, Panthers & Raiders also interested.

Chee Kam won't be retained, at least not top 30.

Club in no rush with Seyfarth.

Russell Packer well................we all know where that's going.

Russell packyourbagsandleave
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350616) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350614) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350607) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350603) said:
@upthetigers said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350598) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350589) said:
This is one of the most interesting articles I have read. Cleary's comment on Brooks is interesting - 'I'm not sure what he is doing now'.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/threatened-species-how-size-and-cut-and-paste-coaching-are-smothering-creative-halves-20210430-p57np3.html

I'm not sure Luke knows what he is doing either.

He literally can't even kick a grubber. You don't suddenly lose that because of a new coach, mentally he must be all over the place. He played well in 2019 for madge which a lot of people forget

"Elsewhere other coaches simply turn their halves into robots'

Let that resonate.

Again, that doesn't somehow take away his ability to force a dropout. It's all mental and he's struggling big time to overcome the barriers in his mind.

It is one of the reasons given in the article for the lack of quality halves. Watch young Deardon come ahead under Payten's tutelage. I wish we had him at WTs.

Dearden is a decent player but still very young. Most of the best halves are a bit older - Nathan Cleary the big exception (he's a freak)
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350607) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350603) said:
@upthetigers said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350598) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350589) said:
This is one of the most interesting articles I have read. Cleary's comment on Brooks is interesting - 'I'm not sure what he is doing now'.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/threatened-species-how-size-and-cut-and-paste-coaching-are-smothering-creative-halves-20210430-p57np3.html

I'm not sure Luke knows what he is doing either.

He literally can't even kick a grubber. You don't suddenly lose that because of a new coach, mentally he must be all over the place. He played well in 2019 for madge which a lot of people forget

"Elsewhere other coaches simply turn their halves into robots'

Let that resonate.


I dont resonate with the opinions of journalists whether it fits my opinion or not.

Many here think journalists are morons until they something that backs their opinion/agenda.
 
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350620) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350607) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350603) said:
@upthetigers said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350598) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350589) said:
This is one of the most interesting articles I have read. Cleary's comment on Brooks is interesting - 'I'm not sure what he is doing now'.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/threatened-species-how-size-and-cut-and-paste-coaching-are-smothering-creative-halves-20210430-p57np3.html

I'm not sure Luke knows what he is doing either.

He literally can't even kick a grubber. You don't suddenly lose that because of a new coach, mentally he must be all over the place. He played well in 2019 for madge which a lot of people forget

"Elsewhere other coaches simply turn their halves into robots'

Let that resonate.

Oh the irony from Ivan. Before he was Mr. Smug he was the most robotic and bland person.


It wasnt Ivan that said it, it was Andrew Webster
 
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350620) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350607) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350603) said:
@upthetigers said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350598) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350589) said:
This is one of the most interesting articles I have read. Cleary's comment on Brooks is interesting - 'I'm not sure what he is doing now'.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/threatened-species-how-size-and-cut-and-paste-coaching-are-smothering-creative-halves-20210430-p57np3.html

I'm not sure Luke knows what he is doing either.

He literally can't even kick a grubber. You don't suddenly lose that because of a new coach, mentally he must be all over the place. He played well in 2019 for madge which a lot of people forget

"Elsewhere other coaches simply turn their halves into robots'

Let that resonate.

Oh the irony from Ivan. Before he was Mr. Smug he was the most robotic and bland person.

That came from Andrew Webster SMH.
 
@everything-wt said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350619) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350548) said:
Just some retention updates:

Jacon Liddle, Tom Amone & Zac Cini have 1 year deals now on the table for 2022. Liddle's management want 2 & wouldn't surprise me if they add the extra year, Bulldogs keen on Liddle also but he seems to be a back up if they can't land a big fish like Smith or Daryl Clark.

Early days but a 2 year deal being discussed for Thomas Mikaele, Panthers & Raiders also interested.

Chee Kam won't be retained, at least not top 30.

Club in no rush with Seyfarth.

Russell Packer well................we all know where that's going.

Russell packyourbagsandleave


Interesting comment from Mark Spud Carroll on SEN last night. Carroll said he went down to training and wanted to give some tips to Packer on what to work on.

Packers response was "Its OK mate I know what Im doing"
Carrolls response was..."Mate, you are in reserve grade!"
 
Thanks @Tiger5150 and @pawsandclaws1 guess I can't help but see a little red from Ivan's mention 😅
Oops.
 
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350634) said:
Thanks @Tiger5150 and @pawsandclaws1 guess I can't help but see a little red from Ivan's mention 😅
Oops.

It is an interesting article to read. Ivan's interest in how a junior coach was coaching his under 12s to play touched me as he clearly had an interest in the kids' welfare. It was nice to read.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350635) said:
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350634) said:
Thanks @Tiger5150 and @pawsandclaws1 guess I can't help but see a little red from Ivan's mention ?
Oops.

It is an interesting article to read. Ivan's interest in how a junior coach was coaching his under 12s to play touched me as he clearly had an interest in the kids welfare. It was nice to read.

A positive comment about Ivan? Not allowed on here my friend
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350635) said:
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350634) said:
Thanks @Tiger5150 and @pawsandclaws1 guess I can't help but see a little red from Ivan's mention ?
Oops.

It is an interesting article to read. Ivan's interest in how a junior coach was coaching his under 12s to play touched me as he clearly had an interest in the kids' welfare. It was nice to read.

Thanks. Think I'll actually give it a read now.
 
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350636) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350635) said:
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350634) said:
Thanks @Tiger5150 and @pawsandclaws1 guess I can't help but see a little red from Ivan's mention ?
Oops.

It is an interesting article to read. Ivan's interest in how a junior coach was coaching his under 12s to play touched me as he clearly had an interest in the kids welfare. It was nice to read.

A positive comment about Ivan? Not allowed on here my friend

If you haven’t already noticed Paws has an affinity for Mild Mannered, new world coaches like Ivan and very much unlike Madge and Bellamy.
 
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350633) said:
@everything-wt said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350619) said:
@the_pom said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350548) said:
Just some retention updates:

Jacon Liddle, Tom Amone & Zac Cini have 1 year deals now on the table for 2022. Liddle's management want 2 & wouldn't surprise me if they add the extra year, Bulldogs keen on Liddle also but he seems to be a back up if they can't land a big fish like Smith or Daryl Clark.

Early days but a 2 year deal being discussed for Thomas Mikaele, Panthers & Raiders also interested.

Chee Kam won't be retained, at least not top 30.

Club in no rush with Seyfarth.

Russell Packer well................we all know where that's going.

Russell packyourbagsandleave


Interesting comment from Mark Spud Carroll on SEN last night. Carroll said he went down to training and wanted to give some tips to Packer on what to work on.

Packers response was "Its OK mate I know what Im doing"
Carrolls response was..."Mate, you are in reserve grade!"

Maybe he is saying he knows what he's doing in totally ripping the club.
 
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350645) said:
@needaname said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350640) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350636) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350635) said:
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350634) said:
Thanks @Tiger5150 and @pawsandclaws1 guess I can't help but see a little red from Ivan's mention ?
Oops.

It is an interesting article to read. Ivan's interest in how a junior coach was coaching his under 12s to play touched me as he clearly had an interest in the kids welfare. It was nice to read.

A positive comment about Ivan? Not allowed on here my friend

If you haven’t already noticed Paws has an affinity for Mild Mannered, new world coaches like Ivan and very much unlike Madge and Bellamy.

Tbh personally had no real issues with how he coached, and especially liked how he worked our youngest players at that time - i.e. Marsters, Suli - but I think it's where his forte lies and we need that Bellamy type.
Think Sheens was quite similar in his approach with preparing them for the NRL, in that they know it's all just a game of opportunity.

Even bellemy has is allowing more attacking footy. It our attack has to be less predictable
 
@tony-soprano said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350649) said:
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350645) said:
@needaname said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350640) said:
@gnr4life said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350636) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350635) said:
@lauren said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350634) said:
Thanks @Tiger5150 and @pawsandclaws1 guess I can't help but see a little red from Ivan's mention ?
Oops.

It is an interesting article to read. Ivan's interest in how a junior coach was coaching his under 12s to play touched me as he clearly had an interest in the kids welfare. It was nice to read.

A positive comment about Ivan? Not allowed on here my friend

If you haven’t already noticed Paws has an affinity for Mild Mannered, new world coaches like Ivan and very much unlike Madge and Bellamy.

Tbh personally had no real issues with how he coached, and especially liked how he worked our youngest players at that time - i.e. Marsters, Suli - but I think it's where his forte lies and we need that Bellamy type.
Think Sheens was quite similar in his approach with preparing them for the NRL, in that they know it's all just a game of opportunity.

Even bellemy has is allowing more attacking footy. It our attack has to be less predictable

Negative. Bellamy still isn’t concerned about the free flow attack. If you look at some of their past teams, they certainly aren’t as expensive in their attack. It still comes down to the players.

Not saying we don’t have players that can attack. But it’s just not gelling yet.
I’m sure once we defend a few more sets and get more confident in good ball Madge isn’t going to stop the players from throwing the ball early. There were multiple times where Brooks could have thrown a Sam Walker pass to an unmarked winger and assist in a try. But he went the short ball. I’m not convinced that it’s coached out of him.
 
@tiger5150 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350630) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350607) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350603) said:
@upthetigers said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350598) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1350589) said:
This is one of the most interesting articles I have read. Cleary's comment on Brooks is interesting - 'I'm not sure what he is doing now'.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/threatened-species-how-size-and-cut-and-paste-coaching-are-smothering-creative-halves-20210430-p57np3.html

I'm not sure Luke knows what he is doing either.

He literally can't even kick a grubber. You don't suddenly lose that because of a new coach, mentally he must be all over the place. He played well in 2019 for madge which a lot of people forget

"Elsewhere other coaches simply turn their halves into robots'

Let that resonate.


I dont resonate with the opinions of journalists whether it fits my opinion or not.

Many here think journalists are morons until they something that backs their opinion/agenda.

First motive in this place
Bag out
Daily Telegraph
Foxtel
Crawley
Rothfield
then move on to
SMH
Webster
 

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