Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

I can't help but feel we could have done better than Godinet. I would've loved to get someone like Roache from the Warriors. I'm not that upset about it though. He provides solid depth and didn't cost much.
 
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I can't believe the hate this signing is getting. Firstly, he isn't horrible. To get a guy with 60 first grade games worth of experience for minimum wage is pretty damn good. But more importantly this allows us to prepare for a bigger signing. Yossarian said he's on a minimum contract meaning that we've now got about 700k or 800k left to spend on a more high profile player which could still be French, Gutherson etc. The choice is between two average players at about 400k each or Godinet on minimum wage and a much bigger signing. You'd be crazy to go for two average players with the amount of depth we've already got.

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I was fairly certain that we DID actually offer Marshall-King a spot, in ISP like Bailey Sironen, and then a better deal came along at another club, which he took.

Fair enough, good luck to him.

100% correct…Marshall King actually signed with the WT then back flipped to join the Dogs during the 10 day cooling off period.

i think we all would do a backflip, if u had signed for $17,000 and then u got offered $68,000\. i know where i would be going.
 
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I can't believe the hate this signing is getting. Firstly, he isn't horrible. To get a guy with 60 first grade games worth of experience for minimum wage is pretty damn good. But more importantly this allows us to prepare for a bigger signing. Yossarian said he's on a minimum contract meaning that we've now got about 700k or 800k left to spend on a more high profile player which could still be French, Gutherson etc. The choice is between two average players at about 400k each or Godinet on minimum wage and a much bigger signing. You'd be crazy to go for two average players with the amount of depth we've already got.

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I was fairly certain that we DID actually offer Marshall-King a spot, in ISP like Bailey Sironen, and then a better deal came along at another club, which he took.

Fair enough, good luck to him.

100% correct…Marshall King actually signed with the WT then back flipped to join the Dogs during the 10 day cooling off period.

i think we all would do a backflip, if u had signed for $17,000 and then u got offered $68,000\. i know where i would be going.

Would prefer Marshall-King to "Pita Godinet". Why did Manly who have lost Blake Green let this guy go? (unless he isn't that good). Between Benji/Brooks and Reynolds we have good depth in the halves and we have two Hookers. Though totally understand Marshall-King's reason for moving, can't deny a firstgrade spot in a team that could use a halfback.

He hasn't been much in Fullback though and I think that's where we may need someone the most. Either in Mentoring Tui or as depth.

Cleary gave Godinet a lifeline. Min wage so it does not matter much.

Number 30 is going to be a big signing. Hopefully a forward/second row.
 
Where's the hate? Some disappointment for sure. We have been signing players like this for years. Nothing wrong for wanting something better for the last two positions, perfectly normal reaction.
We keep talking about the names we could get at this point they havnt eventuated when they do we can all celebrate.
 
We have also gotta remember that we have a lot of players signed to a 1 year contract .. so come the end of 2018 there are lot big name players in other coming off contract .. and I'm pretty all our 1 year contracts won't be resigned (well unless they have a boom season with us in 2018) and we'll have heaps of $$ to chase a big name scalp.
 
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Not sure I understand letting a low cost young utility like Marshall King go and signing a never has been 29 year old Goodinet. Real head scratcher but at minimum wage no real issue. I assume this means we are holding one spot with 700-800k in cap room for next year.

my thoughts exactly. Obviously Godinet is more experienced than Marshall King but is he any better?
It's a depth signing, so both are most likely to be playing Reserve grade. However if we do strike multiple injuries is and are in need of a half would would you prefer out of Pita Godinet and Marshall King?

It could have came down to the length of the contract. Maybe Marshall King wanted a longer deal and Pita Godine is happy for a short term one.
 
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Not sure I understand letting a low cost young utility like Marshall King go and signing a never has been 29 year old Goodinet. Real head scratcher but at minimum wage no real issue. I assume this means we are holding one spot with 700-800k in cap room for next year.

my thoughts exactly. Obviously Godinet is more experienced than Marshall King but is he any better?
It's a depth signing, so both are most likely to be playing Reserve grade. However if we do strike multiple injuries is and are in need of a half would would you prefer out of Pita Godinet and Marshall King?

It could have came down to the length of the contract. Maybe Marshall King wanted a longer deal and Pita Godine is happy for a short term one.

Godinet contract is only for one year
 
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Not sure I understand letting a low cost young utility like Marshall King go and signing a never has been 29 year old Goodinet. Real head scratcher but at minimum wage no real issue. I assume this means we are holding one spot with 700-800k in cap room for next year.

my thoughts exactly. Obviously Godinet is more experienced than Marshall King but is he any better?
It's a depth signing, so both are most likely to be playing Reserve grade. However if we do strike multiple injuries is and are in need of a half would would you prefer out of Pita Godinet and Marshall King?

It could have came down to the length of the contract. Maybe Marshall King wanted a longer deal and Pita Godine is happy for a short term one.

It was stated earlier in the thread - we signed Marshall King. He backflipped for a better offer. Because of this we sign Godinet.
 
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Not sure I understand letting a low cost young utility like Marshall King go and signing a never has been 29 year old Goodinet. Real head scratcher but at minimum wage no real issue. I assume this means we are holding one spot with 700-800k in cap room for next year.

my thoughts exactly. Obviously Godinet is more experienced than Marshall King but is he any better?
It's a depth signing, so both are most likely to be playing Reserve grade. However if we do strike multiple injuries is and are in need of a half would would you prefer out of Pita Godinet and Marshall King?

It could have came down to the length of the contract. Maybe Marshall King wanted a longer deal and Pita Godine is happy for a short term one.

It was stated earlier in the thread - we signed Marshall King. He backflipped for a better offer. Because of this we sign Godinet.

Marshall king was always ISP contract. Not first grade.
 
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Not sure I understand letting a low cost young utility like Marshall King go and signing a never has been 29 year old Goodinet. Real head scratcher but at minimum wage no real issue. I assume this means we are holding one spot with 700-800k in cap room for next year.

my thoughts exactly. Obviously Godinet is more experienced than Marshall King but is he any better?
It's a depth signing, so both are most likely to be playing Reserve grade. However if we do strike multiple injuries is and are in need of a half would would you prefer out of Pita Godinet and Marshall King?

It could have came down to the length of the contract. Maybe Marshall King wanted a longer deal and Pita Godine is happy for a short term one.

It was stated earlier in the thread - we signed Marshall King. He backflipped for a better offer. Because of this we sign Godinet.

Marshall king was always ISP contract. Not first grade.

Ok got it. Thanks
 
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Not sure I understand letting a low cost young utility like Marshall King go and signing a never has been 29 year old Goodinet. Real head scratcher but at minimum wage no real issue. I assume this means we are holding one spot with 700-800k in cap room for next year.

my thoughts exactly. Obviously Godinet is more experienced than Marshall King but is he any better?
It's a depth signing, so both are most likely to be playing Reserve grade. However if we do strike multiple injuries is and are in need of a half would would you prefer out of Pita Godinet and Marshall King?

It could have came down to the length of the contract. Maybe Marshall King wanted a longer deal and Pita Godine is happy for a short term one.

It was stated earlier in the thread - we signed Marshall King. He backflipped for a better offer. Because of this we sign Godinet.

Marshall king was always ISP contract. Not first grade.

What's this ISP contact / First Grade contract? Isn't it if you have a contract and if its in the top 30 salaries then it is counted in the salary cap .. ie you are top 30 players.. I dont think there's such a thing as "a First Grade contract" or an "ISP Contract"
 
Its simple NRL contracts are NRL contracts ..Marshall-King Sironen Heleta Tali weren't offered NRL contracts. .only to play ISP…
 
A NRL contract has a set minimum value under the collective bargaining agreement. ISP contracts are part time and significantly less.

Even taking that into account Godinet has played 60 games over about 8 years he has been at NRL clubs, largely because he is too small and not up to first grade. I would have preferred a younger player with less experience, but also more upside and less failings.

I will admit I don't know how the process works these days because I can't understand 3 year development contracts. How do they work? Do we need to shed players or re-sign these guys on a new contract before they can play 1st grade?

Why would You sign someone long term if they can't play for the club for four years. Wouldn't you sign them short term to be reviewed and replaced if a better option becomes available, or put them on an NRL contract if they appear to have enough ability to play
 
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Not sure I understand letting a low cost young utility like Marshall King go and signing a never has been 29 year old Goodinet. Real head scratcher but at minimum wage no real issue. I assume this means we are holding one spot with 700-800k in cap room for next year.

Agree with this. Would have preferred Marshall-king to fill this utility/hooker spot and give him the chance to train with his bro. Obviously Ivan didn’t think he had what we need.

Seriously if we were injury ravaged and the 3rd or 4th hooker or half went down you would go for a 22 yr old who has played 1 FG game and other then that never made it out of reserve grade over a 29 yr old with 60+ games of first grade across Australia and NZ across halves and hooker and who has made his debut under our coach who clearly knows and values him and who has also played previously at hooker with our 2 starting props. Well I am glad Ivan is coach not you guys because thats crazy

And also played in two World Cups.

Wow! Should we start a list of third grade players that’s have played in two world cups? I think rod Griffins played 3.
 
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We have also gotta remember that we have a lot of players signed to a 1 year contract .. so come the end of 2018 there are lot big name players in other coming off contract .. and I'm pretty all our 1 year contracts won't be resigned (well unless they have a boom season with us in 2018) and we'll have heaps of $$ to chase a big name scalp.

All the bigger names we signed are on longish contracts, it’s all the depth signings who are on one year deals, so given you have to have 30 players contracted, we will basically only be able to replace them with new depth players. We might be able to squeeze one decent signing in next year, but the way I see it….it will be much the same as always.

Anyway let’s start and get into 2018 before worrying to much about 2019
 
The way some people on here are carrying on the club has signed him for a million plus per season.
 
I'm not sure how anyone has a strong view of whether we would be better off with "guy they've seen play a max of 38 minutes of first grade" vs "guy they have literally never paid any attention to"…
 
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