Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[2041]

I would very much rather try my luck with Api Korosau and do a player swap with Penrith.

At the moment Koroisau won't get vaccinated and is therefore basically unsignable.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

Simpkin doesn’t look like a threat with the ball.

Simpkin is 19

Age is irrelevant if you’re playing first grade and are on good coin.

Age shouldn’t be used as an excuse.

If your good enough, you’re old enough.

Liddle has played 56 games in 6 years
Simpkin has played 9 games in 2021
Simpkin has upside Liddle is exposed and has passing deficiencies a back up hooker at best.
Hope we get Hodgo and play Simpkin off the Ben h move Hodgo to lock
Send Liddle packing to Belmore

 

[sparci]

Gee Liddle is coping a real hiding on here...Wasn't long ago he was being hailed by the forum members as the next big #9....Granted he has shortcomings ton his game like no kicking game and can't push out a consistent 80min, but he is on par of better than many other hookers going around...i.e. Marshall-King

marshall king is not the standard hooker you want, hes not even average, hes a make shift hooker.

 

[balmain boy]

We have to remember we've also got Ngati, Anjoul and even Tannous who could all be hookers of the future. They've still got to prove themselves in the lower grades but all have starred when they've been on the field to date.
Because of this young depth i think the club would be willing to lose someone like Liddle IF we can get a swap with someone we value coming in return.

 

[bradexl]

Im continually confused how people believe that Simpkins' performance was better than Liddles this year. Liddle may not have been great but Simpkin was way out of his depth.

The team's best performance all year was against Souths with Simpkin playing. Not a coincidence

Absolute coincidence

 

[Tiger5150]

Gee Liddle is coping a real hiding on here...Wasn't long ago he was being hailed by the forum members as the next big #9....Granted he has shortcomings ton his game like no kicking game and can't push out a consistent 80min, but he is on par of better than many other hookers going around...i.e. Marshall-King

He is better than Marshall King, but not sure that is the standard we should be applying of we want to climb out of this hole.

 

[LUPO]

Rather than trying to assign points to players I think it would be pretty easy to fix the cap:

all contracts public
hard cap on TPAs (eg $2m)
better system of cap relief for juniors/veterans

With regards to the above suggestions. I massively agree with better system of rewarding clubs for developing and retaining players. However, whilst I agree about making contracts public like the US sports the Players Association have said publicly that they'll never allow it as they will claim it breaches privacy, just like capping TPD's will be disputed as restriction of trade

Ok, unlimited TPA but a tax on clubs that exceed a certain amount.

What does what a player can earn individually have to do with the club. You’d only push good players out of the game

To where? Rugby? It’s not 2003

Name another profession outside of a communist country where there is a cap on how much an individual can earn independent of his employer and regardless of his market value. Its a restraint of trade and is illegal.

Most professions are part of designed salary structure (award) which allows management to reward performance and skills development while controlling overall base salary cost by providing a cap on the range paid for particular jobs or locations. Rugby League no different where the good footballers get paid a hell of alot more than the less talented players. Might as well have a comp of 4 teams with the wealthy backers competing against each other. Smells like EPL.

 

[Tiger5150]

Rather than trying to assign points to players I think it would be pretty easy to fix the cap:

all contracts public
hard cap on TPAs (eg $2m)
better system of cap relief for juniors/veterans

With regards to the above suggestions. I massively agree with better system of rewarding clubs for developing and retaining players. However, whilst I agree about making contracts public like the US sports the Players Association have said publicly that they'll never allow it as they will claim it breaches privacy, just like capping TPD's will be disputed as restriction of trade

Ok, unlimited TPA but a tax on clubs that exceed a certain amount.

What does what a player can earn individually have to do with the club. You’d only push good players out of the game

To where? Rugby? It’s not 2003

Name another profession outside of a communist country where there is a cap on how much an individual can earn independent of his employer and regardless of his market value. Its a restraint of trade and is illegal.

***Most professions*** are part of designed salary structure (award) which allows management to reward performance and skills development while controlling overall base salary cost by providing a cap on the range paid for particular jobs or locations. Rugby League no different where the good footballers get paid a hell of alot more than the less talented players. Might as well have a comp of 4 teams with the wealthy backers competing against each other. Smells like EPL.

With respect Lupo, that is complete rubbish. Awards set minimum wages and generally dont apply to salaried professionals. Secondly you say most professions? Seriously? Most professions salaries are governed merely by the market, there is no salary cap on what a doctor, lawyer, architect can earn other than what the market can pay. An individual company or firm might have a limit, but another company will pay more if that is the market.

To bring it back to RL, the NRL have a salary cap but there is nothing stopping a player from earning $$$ outside of their current employment of it is unrelated to their current playing contract and neither should it be.

 

[LUPO]

Refer to previous Australian Rugby League Players Award 2000, Current Collective Bargaining Agreement agreed with the Rugby League Players Association, TPAs etc. The market you refer to is the NRL and participating clubs have collectively signed off to operate within a nominated salary cap. Players know the operating constraints before signing a contract. Even in the land of litigation USA, the NFL & NFLPA have agreed to $208.2M salary cap ceiling for 2022 season.

 

[Love_the_WestsTigers]

The Knights have officially released Pearce from the final year of his contract;
And it looks like the Eels have offered Gutho, Paulo and Mahoney less than what they/their manager is asking for...interest from other clubs is out there - not sure if we're one of them.

Even IF we were, no one wants to come here.
We are slim pickings for decent signings

 

[tonza]

Im continually confused how people believe that Simpkins' performance was better than Liddles this year. Liddle may not have been great but Simpkin was way out of his depth.

The team's best performance all year was against Souths with Simpkin playing. Not a coincidence

He was also the one that Burgess ran straight past to score the winning try. Yes great game.

 

[Leichardt61]

Im continually confused how people believe that Simpkins' performance was better than Liddles this year. Liddle may not have been great but Simpkin was way out of his depth.

The team's best performance all year was against Souths with Simpkin playing. Not a coincidence

He was also the one that Burgess ran straight past to score the winning try. Yes great game.

In his debut game? Against one of the most damaging packs in the league? In overtime? Gee how poor of him haha *sarcasm btw

 

[The_Patriot]

I hate the Simpkin vs Liddle debate.

Both have value and both have a lot left to prove.

A complete waste of energy and a useless part of this signing and rumour thread.

No wonder things are quiet around here lately. People arguing about something that only time will sort out.

 

[TheDaBoss]

Im continually confused how people believe that Simpkins' performance was better than Liddles this year. Liddle may not have been great but Simpkin was way out of his depth.

The team's best performance all year was against Souths with Simpkin playing. Not a coincidence

He was also the one that Burgess ran straight past to score the winning try. Yes great game.

U do realise we were a a man down cause talau was in the sinbin as well?

Also wasn't that his debut game as well?

 

[avocadoontoast]

have we signed anyone?

 

[tigerman 0]

have we signed anyone?

Yep Jackson Hastings

 

[tigerap]

have we signed anyone?

48hrs we will know more.....

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Im continually confused how people believe that Simpkins' performance was better than Liddles this year. Liddle may not have been great but Simpkin was way out of his depth.

The team's best performance all year was against Souths with Simpkin playing. Not a coincidence

He was also the one that Burgess ran straight past to score the winning try. Yes great game.

U do realise we were a a man down cause talau was in the sinbin as well?

Also wasn't that his debut game as well?

It was. But if you think that’s an excuse, look at Cini.

 

[sparci]

Im continually confused how people believe that Simpkins' performance was better than Liddles this year. Liddle may not have been great but Simpkin was way out of his depth.

The team's best performance all year was against Souths with Simpkin playing. Not a coincidence

He was also the one that Burgess ran straight past to score the winning try. Yes great game.

U do realise we were a a man down cause talau was in the sinbin as well?

Also wasn't that his debut game as well?


It was. But if you think that’s an excuse, look at Cini.

Cini dropped 4 catches, you want to compare that scenario to a 19 year old thats defended in the middle for 70 odd minutes against the Souths pack and was caught lacking at the end of the game? Jesus

 

[Newtown]

The Knights have officially released Pearce from the final year of his contract;
And it looks like the Eels have offered Gutho, Paulo and Mahoney less than what they/their manager is asking for...interest from other clubs is out there - not sure if we're one of them.

Even IF we were, no one wants to come here.
We are slim pickings for decent signings

Come on, of course we've got a chance. We have the money and the club is definitely not plagued.