Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247815) said:
@bptiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247782) said:
I think Flanagan at 1/2 and move brooks to 5/8 so he can run the ball more would work for us , plus flanagans goal kicking wins u games .

Yes but who is going to run the team - it sure ain't gonna be Flanagan.

Then there is the problem of his cheating old man - wouldn't want him near the place, not even by association.

As I keep saying - Throw the sink at Burton.
 
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247817) said:
@Russell said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247815) said:
@bptiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247782) said:
I think Flanagan at 1/2 and move brooks to 5/8 so he can run the ball more would work for us , plus flanagans goal kicking wins u games .

Yes but who is going to run the team - it sure ain't gonna be Flanagan.

Then there is the problem of his cheating old man - wouldn't want him near the place, not even by association.

As I keep saying - Throw the sink at Burton.

You kind of want Dogs to go hard for Flanagan as that will take up some cash and a halves spot for them.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247791) said:
Some Chook supporters are blaming Flanagan for Tedesco not being as effective in attack and having to spend more time at dummy half. Seems he is being made the scapegoat for a poor finish.

There is a bit of merit in that I think. The issue for Tedesco is he is not a particularly creative or eyes-up player, not like Keary or Cody Walker. He's also not a hot stepper like RTS or Shaun Johnson who can put a hole in the line by very rapid lateral movement.

Tedesco is a tackle buster with great balance, who causes damage when he gets amongst disrupted defences. He is hard to tackle and has a strong quick fend. He is always around the football for line breaks, offloads and kick chases.

Tedesco is far far less effective against a set and aggressive defensive line. Even with the tackle busting ability, if the defence is set, he'll only bust back and forth in a small area. He might get a quick PTB if he drags defenders out. Tedesco is not particularly fast in a straight line or stepping around cover, so he does need support if he makes a bust.

This all goes back to his Tigers days, where he had the same skillset as now but lacked the support. I know a Roosters supporter who reckoned Tedesco improved when he joined Roosters. I argued that he did not get significantly better, but he did enjoy better outcomes being supported by the likes of Cronk, Keary and Latrell. I mean even Corey Allan can play good football if players like Cook, Reynolds and Walker.

Last week, with Keary down and Manu not really firing first half, Flanagan needed to offer some threat in attack. He did not. That left Tedesco as the only threat, trying his best to conjure up attack with high-energy efforts.

Different story entirely when Keary came back and Manu started to get more involved 2nd half, took a lot of pressure off Tedesco.

Flanagan more or less absent the entire game. But Roosters shouldn't complain too much, that's the footballer he was at the Sharks too. You need to be aware who you are purchasing.
 
@jirskyr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247823) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247791) said:
Some Chook supporters are blaming Flanagan for Tedesco not being as effective in attack and having to spend more time at dummy half. Seems he is being made the scapegoat for a poor finish.

There is a bit of merit in that I think. The issue for Tedesco is he is not a particularly creative or eyes-up player, not like Keary or Cody Walker. He's also not a hot stepper like RTS or Shaun Johnson who can put a hole in the line by very rapid lateral movement.

Tedesco is a tackle buster with great balance, who causes damage when he gets amongst disrupted defences. He is hard to tackle and has a strong quick fend. He is always around the football for line breaks, offloads and kick chases.

Tedesco is far far less effective against a set and aggressive defensive line. Even with the tackle busting ability, if the defence is set, he'll only bust back and forth in a small area. He might get a quick PTB if he drags defenders out. Tedesco is not particularly fast in a straight line or stepping around cover, so he does need support if he makes a bust.

This all goes back to his Tigers days, where he had the same skillset as now but lacked the support. I know a Roosters supporter who reckoned Tedesco improved when he joined Roosters. I argued that he did not get significantly better, but he did enjoy better outcomes being supported by the likes of Cronk, Keary and Latrell. I mean even Corey Allan can play good football if players like Cook, Reynolds and Walker.

Last week, with Keary down and Manu not really firing first half, Flanagan needed to offer some threat in attack. He did not. That left Tedesco as the only threat, trying his best to conjure up attack with high-energy efforts.

Different story entirely when Keary came back and Manu started to get more involved 2nd half, took a lot of pressure off Tedesco.

Flanagan more or less absent the entire game. But Roosters shouldn't complain too much, that's the footballer he was at the Sharks too. You need to be aware who you are purchasing.

Good reply. Flanagan's days at the Roosters were imo always contingent upon his mate joining him.
 
I'm not saying Flanagan will be a superstar , but we all still need to understand he has only played 29 NRL games

2ndly you might be playing for the Roosters who have at full fitness have a superior roster .....but your playing against 15 other teams who are lifting to play against the defending premiers and are solely focusing on Flanagan as a possible weakness

3rdly Flanagan had lots of mates who went MIA v the Raiders ...one being the potential 6 for NSW for a long period

Lastly Walker has been picked out by many as future superstar ...worse case scenario he will get to Flanagans level barring injury

Personally if I was judging Flanagan without having Walker in the background I'd give him another season ...but the Roosters have got Walker and Lam and they can probably save 100 k in their cap by releasing Flanagan

But also saying that Cordner and Friend would be players I'd be sticking in the Flanagan basket as well
 
By the Roosters standards they would have punted Brooks 6 years back.

We just upped his contracted and thank him for taking our money.

Ps Id take Flanno Jnr in a heartbeat and Flanno Snr perhaps as Assistant coach if he knows that Madge is top dog.
 
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247767) said:
@Fade-To-Black said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247704) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247631) said:
@Spartan117 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247618) said:
@TigerSkins said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247433) said:
Rorters are using young Flanagan as an escape goat for poor run in the NRL finals .. I reckon they will be keen to move him on so they can go with young Lachlan Lam or whiz kid Sam Walker. Flanagan is a decent goal kicker .. shall i dare suggest we move Brooks on, and have a shot at Flanagan .. ??

I take him in a heart beat

Too early to tell either way ..might take 2 more seasons ...you usually learn a lot from a loss ........when Cronk gets his hands on him 24/7 once CV isn't it around

Having Cronk whining in his ear isn't going to transform him. Look at Moses with Andrew Johns. No matter how great your cloth is it's still impossible to polish a ?.

My opinion ...Luke Keary went missing for 60 odd minutes v Raiders ...he shoulders far more blame in that loss

Absolutely! Keary is their main playmaker and go to man, he should shoulder most of the blame for that loss. In his defence though I don’t think that early knock did him any good at all. I was surprised he came back on actually.
 
I see the Raiders are making a play for Panthers back-up fullback Caleb Aekins .. he can play fullback, centre, or 5/8 .. !! He seems to have done great job standing in for Dylan Edwards when out .. so why aren't we looking at this kid .. ??
 
@TigerSkins said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247850) said:
I see the Raiders are making a play for Panthers back-up fullback Caleb Aekins .. he can play fullback, centre, or 5/8 .. !! He seems to have done great job standing in for Dylan Edwards when out .. so why aren't we looking at this kid .. ??

Good question.....
 
How about we sign Dane Laurie. Caleb Aekins is a back up that is Corey Thompson like, do you wan't to make the 8 or be the home of the average BACK UP player ?
 
Panthers fans don’t rate Aekins much, I think he’s okay, but wouldn’t be what I’d be looking at for our club with where we are at.

And utility value isn’t worth much to us as we already got a lot of those kind of guys (AD, Mbye, Talau, AJ etc).
 
we need a fullback that has the potential to be one of the best in the league and have a big hand in us winning a competition. Suaalii, Xavier Coates, Reece Walsh or Tabuai-Fidow could all potentially be that, or JAC might even get it right.

unfortunately for Aekins he doesn't fall into that category, he's best suited going to a top club like Canberra and being their Mr Fix It when injuries arise.
 
@jirskyr said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247823) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247791) said:
Some Chook supporters are blaming Flanagan for Tedesco not being as effective in attack and having to spend more time at dummy half. Seems he is being made the scapegoat for a poor finish.

There is a bit of merit in that I think. The issue for Tedesco is he is not a particularly creative or eyes-up player, not like Keary or Cody Walker. He's also not a hot stepper like RTS or Shaun Johnson who can put a hole in the line by very rapid lateral movement.

Tedesco is a tackle buster with great balance, who causes damage when he gets amongst disrupted defences. He is hard to tackle and has a strong quick fend. He is always around the football for line breaks, offloads and kick chases.

Tedesco is far far less effective against a set and aggressive defensive line. Even with the tackle busting ability, if the defence is set, he'll only bust back and forth in a small area. He might get a quick PTB if he drags defenders out. Tedesco is not particularly fast in a straight line or stepping around cover, so he does need support if he makes a bust.

This all goes back to his Tigers days, where he had the same skillset as now but lacked the support. I know a Roosters supporter who reckoned Tedesco improved when he joined Roosters. I argued that he did not get significantly better, but he did enjoy better outcomes being supported by the likes of Cronk, Keary and Latrell. I mean even Corey Allan can play good football if players like Cook, Reynolds and Walker.

Last week, with Keary down and Manu not really firing first half, Flanagan needed to offer some threat in attack. He did not. That left Tedesco as the only threat, trying his best to conjure up attack with high-energy efforts.

Different story entirely when Keary came back and Manu started to get more involved 2nd half, took a lot of pressure off Tedesco.

Flanagan more or less absent the entire game. But Roosters shouldn't complain too much, that's the footballer he was at the Sharks too. You need to be aware who you are purchasing.

Good point around the lack of support. We have a problem at Tigers where players tend to look ordinary due to IMO lack of winning the forwards battle and class players able to create line breaks out of nothing like Cook and Walker.

I'm hopeful if we can land JAC to help provide the flair and Tamou can bring an improved culture around controlling the ruck there will be less pressure on the likes of Brooks and AD/Mbye to create everything themselves.

Cleary is getting all the praise at the moment, and he's playing well, but it's so much easier when you only need to pass the ball to Crichton, Kikau, Edwards etc. and they do the rest.
 
@TheDaBoss said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247891) said:
In other news

Dogs have signed Jack Hethrington on a two year deal

damn thought we had him

Oh well we’ve got plenty of props.
 
@TheDaBoss said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247891) said:
In other news

Dogs have signed Jack Hethrington on a two year deal

damn thought we had him

3 year deal, good luck to them, depends on the $

Max $1m 3 years I'd say is his worth
 
@TheDaBoss said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1247891) said:
In other news

Dogs have signed Jack Hethrington on a two year deal

damn thought we had him

Let's see if he turns out as good as a lot of people seem to think he is.
 

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