Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[cochise]

I hope that if we sign Joe O, the club doesn’t go ‘oh that’s a good replacement for Aloiai, he can go to manly now’

Screw that, demand compensation from Manly still. Sironen or they can pay us a couple hundred grand for us. Just because we’ve signed someone in his spot doesn’t mean we should let him go

They won’t have a choice they will want the player starting training shortly and Aloai gone. We will need the cap room. Will play out the same way as it did Matterson. We brought Leilua in who arguably had the better season at a lower cost.
NRL has to fix this.

Do we need the cap room? He’s on $350k and we’ve got plenty of cap left even with signing Roberts and Joe O. Don’t see the need to release him, make manly compensate us

I agree but I don’t see it happening. Manly are clever why would they compensate us they have signed him for 2022.

Because they're pretty desperate for a prop for next season.

They have already offered him more than he is worth so I doubt they will want him to cost them anything more.

Let him sit in reserves then, that’s their fault for doing a bad deal

Of course it is, I think they have offered him a stupid amount. If we can use his money or squad spot to improve our roster then let him go.

Not too much on the market. Of course if we found someone We wanted to take his spot then go for it but doubt that happens for a bit. In the mean time let’s keep talking to manly and see if we can get a deal out of them

They also don't have to be a great player to replace him and improve our roster if our plan is to play him in reserve grade all year.

 

[JC99]

I hope that if we sign Joe O, the club doesn’t go ‘oh that’s a good replacement for Aloiai, he can go to manly now’

Screw that, demand compensation from Manly still. Sironen or they can pay us a couple hundred grand for us. Just because we’ve signed someone in his spot doesn’t mean we should let him go

They won’t have a choice they will want the player starting training shortly and Aloai gone. We will need the cap room. Will play out the same way as it did Matterson. We brought Leilua in who arguably had the better season at a lower cost.
NRL has to fix this.

Do we need the cap room? He’s on $350k and we’ve got plenty of cap left even with signing Roberts and Joe O. Don’t see the need to release him, make manly compensate us

I agree but I don’t see it happening. Manly are clever why would they compensate us they have signed him for 2022.

Because they're pretty desperate for a prop for next season.

They have already offered him more than he is worth so I doubt they will want him to cost them anything more.

Let him sit in reserves then, that’s their fault for doing a bad deal

Of course it is, I think they have offered him a stupid amount. If we can use his money or squad spot to improve our roster then let him go.

Not too much on the market. Of course if we found someone We wanted to take his spot then go for it but doubt that happens for a bit. In the mean time let’s keep talking to manly and see if we can get a deal out of them

If we get a player from Manly while they pay Aloiai $600k then tht would be one of the worst recruitment decision I have seen a club make. Up there with Hunt being a $1m+ player.

Guess we’ll have to wait and see how bad they want him. A swap is always hard because the clubs need to agree and the players need to agree so it’s a long process. While we have no reason to release him we need to push manly into doing something though even if it’s just financial compensation

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Maybe I’m just getting old, but the fact someone would know who some random footy player has followed and unfollowed on Instagram speaks volumes for where are as a society.

As Lady Gaga puts it “social media is the toilet of the internet”

Like she is to the music industry

 

[cochise]

I hope that if we sign Joe O, the club doesn’t go ‘oh that’s a good replacement for Aloiai, he can go to manly now’

Screw that, demand compensation from Manly still. Sironen or they can pay us a couple hundred grand for us. Just because we’ve signed someone in his spot doesn’t mean we should let him go

They won’t have a choice they will want the player starting training shortly and Aloai gone. We will need the cap room. Will play out the same way as it did Matterson. We brought Leilua in who arguably had the better season at a lower cost.
NRL has to fix this.

Do we need the cap room? He’s on $350k and we’ve got plenty of cap left even with signing Roberts and Joe O. Don’t see the need to release him, make manly compensate us

I agree but I don’t see it happening. Manly are clever why would they compensate us they have signed him for 2022.

Because they're pretty desperate for a prop for next season.

They have already offered him more than he is worth so I doubt they will want him to cost them anything more.

Let him sit in reserves then, that’s their fault for doing a bad deal

Of course it is, I think they have offered him a stupid amount. If we can use his money or squad spot to improve our roster then let him go.

Not too much on the market. Of course if we found someone We wanted to take his spot then go for it but doubt that happens for a bit. In the mean time let’s keep talking to manly and see if we can get a deal out of them

If we get a player from Manly while they pay Aloiai $600k then tht would be one of the worst recruitment decision I have seen a club make. Up there with Hunt being a $1m+ player.

Guess we’ll have to wait and see how bad they want him. A swap is always hard because the clubs need to agree and the players need to agree so it’s a long process. While we have no reason to release him we need to push manly into doing something though even if it’s just financial compensation

Not if it damages us by trying to make a point. The most important thing for us is to improve our squad, not prove a point.

 

[JC99]

I hope that if we sign Joe O, the club doesn’t go ‘oh that’s a good replacement for Aloiai, he can go to manly now’

Screw that, demand compensation from Manly still. Sironen or they can pay us a couple hundred grand for us. Just because we’ve signed someone in his spot doesn’t mean we should let him go

They won’t have a choice they will want the player starting training shortly and Aloai gone. We will need the cap room. Will play out the same way as it did Matterson. We brought Leilua in who arguably had the better season at a lower cost.
NRL has to fix this.

Do we need the cap room? He’s on $350k and we’ve got plenty of cap left even with signing Roberts and Joe O. Don’t see the need to release him, make manly compensate us

I agree but I don’t see it happening. Manly are clever why would they compensate us they have signed him for 2022.

Because they're pretty desperate for a prop for next season.

They have already offered him more than he is worth so I doubt they will want him to cost them anything more.

Let him sit in reserves then, that’s their fault for doing a bad deal

Of course it is, I think they have offered him a stupid amount. If we can use his money or squad spot to improve our roster then let him go.

Not too much on the market. Of course if we found someone We wanted to take his spot then go for it but doubt that happens for a bit. In the mean time let’s keep talking to manly and see if we can get a deal out of them

If we get a player from Manly while they pay Aloiai $600k then tht would be one of the worst recruitment decision I have seen a club make. Up there with Hunt being a $1m+ player.

Guess we’ll have to wait and see how bad they want him. A swap is always hard because the clubs need to agree and the players need to agree so it’s a long process. While we have no reason to release him we need to push manly into doing something though even if it’s just financial compensation

Not if it damages us by trying to make a point. The most important thing for us is to improve our squad, not prove a point.

I don’t know, we kinda do need to prove a point. Second year in a row it’s happened we need to show players it won’t be easy for them to screw us. We’ve got a heap of middle forwards even if we don’t sign Joe O so at this point in time we can hold onto josh. If someone else pops up we want to sign he can go on his merry way

 

[BAGNF05]

I hope that if we sign Joe O, the club doesn’t go ‘oh that’s a good replacement for Aloiai, he can go to manly now’

Screw that, demand compensation from Manly still. Sironen or they can pay us a couple hundred grand for us. Just because we’ve signed someone in his spot doesn’t mean we should let him go

They won’t have a choice they will want the player starting training shortly and Aloai gone. We will need the cap room. Will play out the same way as it did Matterson. We brought Leilua in who arguably had the better season at a lower cost.
NRL has to fix this.

Do we need the cap room? He’s on $350k and we’ve got plenty of cap left even with signing Roberts and Joe O. Don’t see the need to release him, make manly compensate us

I agree but I don’t see it happening. Manly are clever why would they compensate us they have signed him for 2022.

Because they're pretty desperate for a prop for next season.

They have already offered him more than he is worth so I doubt they will want him to cost them anything more.

Let him sit in reserves then, that’s their fault for doing a bad deal

Of course it is, I think they have offered him a stupid amount. If we can use his money or squad spot to improve our roster then let him go.

Not too much on the market. Of course if we found someone We wanted to take his spot then go for it but doubt that happens for a bit. In the mean time let’s keep talking to manly and see if we can get a deal out of them

If we get a player from Manly while they pay Aloiai $600k then tht would be one of the worst recruitment decision I have seen a club make. Up there with Hunt being a $1m+ player.

Guess we’ll have to wait and see how bad they want him. A swap is always hard because the clubs need to agree and the players need to agree so it’s a long process. While we have no reason to release him we need to push manly into doing something though even if it’s just financial compensation

Not if it damages us by trying to make a point. The most important thing for us is to improve our squad, not prove a point.

As it stands Wests Tigers contracts aren’t worth anything, the moment a stronger club wants you, you can walk. We need to make a point that that ends here. Lee was pretty strong on that and I’m 100% behind him. Will be very disillusioned if he backs down

 

[JC99]

I hope that if we sign Joe O, the club doesn’t go ‘oh that’s a good replacement for Aloiai, he can go to manly now’

Screw that, demand compensation from Manly still. Sironen or they can pay us a couple hundred grand for us. Just because we’ve signed someone in his spot doesn’t mean we should let him go

They won’t have a choice they will want the player starting training shortly and Aloai gone. We will need the cap room. Will play out the same way as it did Matterson. We brought Leilua in who arguably had the better season at a lower cost.
NRL has to fix this.

Do we need the cap room? He’s on $350k and we’ve got plenty of cap left even with signing Roberts and Joe O. Don’t see the need to release him, make manly compensate us

I agree but I don’t see it happening. Manly are clever why would they compensate us they have signed him for 2022.

Because they're pretty desperate for a prop for next season.

They have already offered him more than he is worth so I doubt they will want him to cost them anything more.

Let him sit in reserves then, that’s their fault for doing a bad deal

Of course it is, I think they have offered him a stupid amount. If we can use his money or squad spot to improve our roster then let him go.

Not too much on the market. Of course if we found someone We wanted to take his spot then go for it but doubt that happens for a bit. In the mean time let’s keep talking to manly and see if we can get a deal out of them

If we get a player from Manly while they pay Aloiai $600k then tht would be one of the worst recruitment decision I have seen a club make. Up there with Hunt being a $1m+ player.

Guess we’ll have to wait and see how bad they want him. A swap is always hard because the clubs need to agree and the players need to agree so it’s a long process. While we have no reason to release him we need to push manly into doing something though even if it’s just financial compensation

Not if it damages us by trying to make a point. The most important thing for us is to improve our squad, not prove a point.

As it stands Wests Tigers contracts aren’t worth anything, the moment a stronger club wants you, you can walk. We need to make a point that that ends here. Lee was pretty strong on that and I’m 100% behind him. Will be very disillusioned if he backs down

He’ll make us look stupid if he doesn’t get some compensation from manly.

 

[BAGNF05]

I hope that if we sign Joe O, the club doesn’t go ‘oh that’s a good replacement for Aloiai, he can go to manly now’

Screw that, demand compensation from Manly still. Sironen or they can pay us a couple hundred grand for us. Just because we’ve signed someone in his spot doesn’t mean we should let him go

They won’t have a choice they will want the player starting training shortly and Aloai gone. We will need the cap room. Will play out the same way as it did Matterson. We brought Leilua in who arguably had the better season at a lower cost.
NRL has to fix this.

Do we need the cap room? He’s on $350k and we’ve got plenty of cap left even with signing Roberts and Joe O. Don’t see the need to release him, make manly compensate us

I agree but I don’t see it happening. Manly are clever why would they compensate us they have signed him for 2022.

Because they're pretty desperate for a prop for next season.

They have already offered him more than he is worth so I doubt they will want him to cost them anything more.

Let him sit in reserves then, that’s their fault for doing a bad deal

Of course it is, I think they have offered him a stupid amount. If we can use his money or squad spot to improve our roster then let him go.

Not too much on the market. Of course if we found someone We wanted to take his spot then go for it but doubt that happens for a bit. In the mean time let’s keep talking to manly and see if we can get a deal out of them

If we get a player from Manly while they pay Aloiai $600k then tht would be one of the worst recruitment decision I have seen a club make. Up there with Hunt being a $1m+ player.

Guess we’ll have to wait and see how bad they want him. A swap is always hard because the clubs need to agree and the players need to agree so it’s a long process. While we have no reason to release him we need to push manly into doing something though even if it’s just financial compensation

Not if it damages us by trying to make a point. The most important thing for us is to improve our squad, not prove a point.

As it stands Wests Tigers contracts aren’t worth anything, the moment a stronger club wants you, you can walk. We need to make a point that that ends here. Lee was pretty strong on that and I’m 100% behind him. Will be very disillusioned if he backs down

He’ll make us look stupid if he doesn’t get some compensation from manly.

True. And how long before Melbourne decides they’ll chuck an offer towards Luciano mid contract?

 

[cochise]

I hope that if we sign Joe O, the club doesn’t go ‘oh that’s a good replacement for Aloiai, he can go to manly now’

Screw that, demand compensation from Manly still. Sironen or they can pay us a couple hundred grand for us. Just because we’ve signed someone in his spot doesn’t mean we should let him go

They won’t have a choice they will want the player starting training shortly and Aloai gone. We will need the cap room. Will play out the same way as it did Matterson. We brought Leilua in who arguably had the better season at a lower cost.
NRL has to fix this.

Do we need the cap room? He’s on $350k and we’ve got plenty of cap left even with signing Roberts and Joe O. Don’t see the need to release him, make manly compensate us

I agree but I don’t see it happening. Manly are clever why would they compensate us they have signed him for 2022.

Because they're pretty desperate for a prop for next season.

They have already offered him more than he is worth so I doubt they will want him to cost them anything more.

Let him sit in reserves then, that’s their fault for doing a bad deal

Of course it is, I think they have offered him a stupid amount. If we can use his money or squad spot to improve our roster then let him go.

Not too much on the market. Of course if we found someone We wanted to take his spot then go for it but doubt that happens for a bit. In the mean time let’s keep talking to manly and see if we can get a deal out of them

If we get a player from Manly while they pay Aloiai $600k then tht would be one of the worst recruitment decision I have seen a club make. Up there with Hunt being a $1m+ player.

Guess we’ll have to wait and see how bad they want him. A swap is always hard because the clubs need to agree and the players need to agree so it’s a long process. While we have no reason to release him we need to push manly into doing something though even if it’s just financial compensation

Not if it damages us by trying to make a point. The most important thing for us is to improve our squad, not prove a point.

As it stands Wests Tigers contracts aren’t worth anything, the moment a stronger club wants you, you can walk. We need to make a point that that ends here. Lee was pretty strong on that and I’m 100% behind him. Will be very disillusioned if he backs down

While I agree, what I think is more important is a successful season next year and Aloiai playing reserves doesn't add to that.

 

[cochise]

I hope that if we sign Joe O, the club doesn’t go ‘oh that’s a good replacement for Aloiai, he can go to manly now’

Screw that, demand compensation from Manly still. Sironen or they can pay us a couple hundred grand for us. Just because we’ve signed someone in his spot doesn’t mean we should let him go

They won’t have a choice they will want the player starting training shortly and Aloai gone. We will need the cap room. Will play out the same way as it did Matterson. We brought Leilua in who arguably had the better season at a lower cost.
NRL has to fix this.

Do we need the cap room? He’s on $350k and we’ve got plenty of cap left even with signing Roberts and Joe O. Don’t see the need to release him, make manly compensate us

I agree but I don’t see it happening. Manly are clever why would they compensate us they have signed him for 2022.

Because they're pretty desperate for a prop for next season.

They have already offered him more than he is worth so I doubt they will want him to cost them anything more.

Let him sit in reserves then, that’s their fault for doing a bad deal

Of course it is, I think they have offered him a stupid amount. If we can use his money or squad spot to improve our roster then let him go.

Not too much on the market. Of course if we found someone We wanted to take his spot then go for it but doubt that happens for a bit. In the mean time let’s keep talking to manly and see if we can get a deal out of them

If we get a player from Manly while they pay Aloiai $600k then tht would be one of the worst recruitment decision I have seen a club make. Up there with Hunt being a $1m+ player.

Guess we’ll have to wait and see how bad they want him. A swap is always hard because the clubs need to agree and the players need to agree so it’s a long process. While we have no reason to release him we need to push manly into doing something though even if it’s just financial compensation

Not if it damages us by trying to make a point. The most important thing for us is to improve our squad, not prove a point.

As it stands Wests Tigers contracts aren’t worth anything, the moment a stronger club wants you, you can walk. We need to make a point that that ends here. Lee was pretty strong on that and I’m 100% behind him. Will be very disillusioned if he backs down

He’ll make us look stupid if he doesn’t get some compensation from manly.

True. And how long before Melbourne decides they’ll chuck an offer towards Luciano mid contract?

I think what is more important is pressuring the NRL to put rules in place to stop this sort of behaviour from Managers, players and clubs.

 

[Go_You_Good_Things]

Getting some money ball vibes off our recruitment at the moment

These guys might not work out but they’ve got a point to prove and at their best can be damaging players to play against. Madge and hartigan have once again managed to find some decent signing options when it looked like there wasn’t any

Fingers crossed we do okay next year and can entice some big names to join us

If they don't work out they are failures ...whether you paid 150 k or 750 k for them

They’re still failures but for $150k you’re not too upset by it. I think Joe O is a riskier signing he was pretty average this year and is on good money. It’ll hurt us if Madge can’t get him to perform

Ahh the old “if Madge can get him to perform”.

If this forum is be believed, his wife has been sick, which would mess any player up. Isaako had a similarly tough year losing his father.

His wife clearly had cancer dude . There’s plenty of photos of her going through that process . Its funny how insensitive people are , with other people’s grief and stress . Bosses be like “ we are a family , come to me if you need a chat “ , also bosses “your performance has been poor this year , you need to pick your act up “ totally forgetting the reason you went to them in the first place . Narcissism to the max .

My concern is a bloke who had a brand new bub and a sick Mrs being asleep drunk behind the wheel of his car

If he was my brother I'd give him a clip and tell him to wake up to himself


If he was a rogue like an Allan Langer or Munster you could cop it .....he isn't in their leagues .....me I'd pass on him

. . . If he was your brother, and you gave him a clip . . . it might be YOU he'd be telling to wake up after he knocked you on your arse.

 

[BAGNF05]

I hope that if we sign Joe O, the club doesn’t go ‘oh that’s a good replacement for Aloiai, he can go to manly now’

Screw that, demand compensation from Manly still. Sironen or they can pay us a couple hundred grand for us. Just because we’ve signed someone in his spot doesn’t mean we should let him go

They won’t have a choice they will want the player starting training shortly and Aloai gone. We will need the cap room. Will play out the same way as it did Matterson. We brought Leilua in who arguably had the better season at a lower cost.
NRL has to fix this.

Do we need the cap room? He’s on $350k and we’ve got plenty of cap left even with signing Roberts and Joe O. Don’t see the need to release him, make manly compensate us

I agree but I don’t see it happening. Manly are clever why would they compensate us they have signed him for 2022.

Because they're pretty desperate for a prop for next season.

They have already offered him more than he is worth so I doubt they will want him to cost them anything more.

Let him sit in reserves then, that’s their fault for doing a bad deal

Of course it is, I think they have offered him a stupid amount. If we can use his money or squad spot to improve our roster then let him go.

Not too much on the market. Of course if we found someone We wanted to take his spot then go for it but doubt that happens for a bit. In the mean time let’s keep talking to manly and see if we can get a deal out of them

If we get a player from Manly while they pay Aloiai $600k then tht would be one of the worst recruitment decision I have seen a club make. Up there with Hunt being a $1m+ player.

Guess we’ll have to wait and see how bad they want him. A swap is always hard because the clubs need to agree and the players need to agree so it’s a long process. While we have no reason to release him we need to push manly into doing something though even if it’s just financial compensation

Not if it damages us by trying to make a point. The most important thing for us is to improve our squad, not prove a point.

As it stands Wests Tigers contracts aren’t worth anything, the moment a stronger club wants you, you can walk. We need to make a point that that ends here. Lee was pretty strong on that and I’m 100% behind him. Will be very disillusioned if he backs down

While I agree, what I think is more important is a successful season next year and Aloiai playing reserves doesn't add to that.

I’m content to completely disregard 2021 if it means the club will no longer be the dead carcass to the vultures of the NRL. We won’t win while we have the ‘rich three’ anyway.

 

[cochise]

I hope that if we sign Joe O, the club doesn’t go ‘oh that’s a good replacement for Aloiai, he can go to manly now’

Screw that, demand compensation from Manly still. Sironen or they can pay us a couple hundred grand for us. Just because we’ve signed someone in his spot doesn’t mean we should let him go

They won’t have a choice they will want the player starting training shortly and Aloai gone. We will need the cap room. Will play out the same way as it did Matterson. We brought Leilua in who arguably had the better season at a lower cost.
NRL has to fix this.

Do we need the cap room? He’s on $350k and we’ve got plenty of cap left even with signing Roberts and Joe O. Don’t see the need to release him, make manly compensate us

I agree but I don’t see it happening. Manly are clever why would they compensate us they have signed him for 2022.

Because they're pretty desperate for a prop for next season.

They have already offered him more than he is worth so I doubt they will want him to cost them anything more.

Let him sit in reserves then, that’s their fault for doing a bad deal

Of course it is, I think they have offered him a stupid amount. If we can use his money or squad spot to improve our roster then let him go.

Not too much on the market. Of course if we found someone We wanted to take his spot then go for it but doubt that happens for a bit. In the mean time let’s keep talking to manly and see if we can get a deal out of them

If we get a player from Manly while they pay Aloiai $600k then tht would be one of the worst recruitment decision I have seen a club make. Up there with Hunt being a $1m+ player.

Guess we’ll have to wait and see how bad they want him. A swap is always hard because the clubs need to agree and the players need to agree so it’s a long process. While we have no reason to release him we need to push manly into doing something though even if it’s just financial compensation

Not if it damages us by trying to make a point. The most important thing for us is to improve our squad, not prove a point.

As it stands Wests Tigers contracts aren’t worth anything, the moment a stronger club wants you, you can walk. We need to make a point that that ends here. Lee was pretty strong on that and I’m 100% behind him. Will be very disillusioned if he backs down

While I agree, what I think is more important is a successful season next year and Aloiai playing reserves doesn't add to that.

I’m content to completely disregard 2021 if it means the club will no longer be the dead carcass to the vultures of the NRL. We won’t win while we have the ‘rich three’ anyway.

We are improving the roster, a top 8 spot is not out of the question for next year. I we are in the 8 all year next year then that makes recruitment for 2022 so much easier.

Yes try and get something from Manly, I doubt they will give up anything, but don't damage 2021 to prove a point. Instead get the rules fixed by the NRL, hit the message hard that these rules are hurting the game. Even if you release him speak about your reluctance to do so and how the rules need to be changed .

The important thing about this is not making Aloiai waste in reserve grade, it is ensuring it doesn't happen again, the best way to do that is to get rules in place to prevent it.

 

[compensate]

Off topic but doesn’t anyone know when the NRL draw for next year will be released?

 

[frullens]

What about getting JA to apologies publicly and to the playing group and play out the season at WT.

Letting down the playing group is a very strong motivating factor.

 

[JC99]

I hope that if we sign Joe O, the club doesn’t go ‘oh that’s a good replacement for Aloiai, he can go to manly now’

Screw that, demand compensation from Manly still. Sironen or they can pay us a couple hundred grand for us. Just because we’ve signed someone in his spot doesn’t mean we should let him go

They won’t have a choice they will want the player starting training shortly and Aloai gone. We will need the cap room. Will play out the same way as it did Matterson. We brought Leilua in who arguably had the better season at a lower cost.
NRL has to fix this.

Do we need the cap room? He’s on $350k and we’ve got plenty of cap left even with signing Roberts and Joe O. Don’t see the need to release him, make manly compensate us

I agree but I don’t see it happening. Manly are clever why would they compensate us they have signed him for 2022.

Because they're pretty desperate for a prop for next season.

They have already offered him more than he is worth so I doubt they will want him to cost them anything more.

Let him sit in reserves then, that’s their fault for doing a bad deal

Of course it is, I think they have offered him a stupid amount. If we can use his money or squad spot to improve our roster then let him go.

Not too much on the market. Of course if we found someone We wanted to take his spot then go for it but doubt that happens for a bit. In the mean time let’s keep talking to manly and see if we can get a deal out of them

If we get a player from Manly while they pay Aloiai $600k then tht would be one of the worst recruitment decision I have seen a club make. Up there with Hunt being a $1m+ player.

Guess we’ll have to wait and see how bad they want him. A swap is always hard because the clubs need to agree and the players need to agree so it’s a long process. While we have no reason to release him we need to push manly into doing something though even if it’s just financial compensation

Not if it damages us by trying to make a point. The most important thing for us is to improve our squad, not prove a point.

As it stands Wests Tigers contracts aren’t worth anything, the moment a stronger club wants you, you can walk. We need to make a point that that ends here. Lee was pretty strong on that and I’m 100% behind him. Will be very disillusioned if he backs down

He’ll make us look stupid if he doesn’t get some compensation from manly.

True. And how long before Melbourne decides they’ll chuck an offer towards Luciano mid contract?

I think what is more important is pressuring the NRL to put rules in place to stop this sort of behaviour from Managers, players and clubs.

Sounds like Lee is pushing for it too

 

[JC99]

Off topic but doesn’t anyone know when the NRL draw for next year will be released?

End of the month apparently so not long

 

[BAGNF05]

I hope that if we sign Joe O, the club doesn’t go ‘oh that’s a good replacement for Aloiai, he can go to manly now’

Screw that, demand compensation from Manly still. Sironen or they can pay us a couple hundred grand for us. Just because we’ve signed someone in his spot doesn’t mean we should let him go

They won’t have a choice they will want the player starting training shortly and Aloai gone. We will need the cap room. Will play out the same way as it did Matterson. We brought Leilua in who arguably had the better season at a lower cost.
NRL has to fix this.

Do we need the cap room? He’s on $350k and we’ve got plenty of cap left even with signing Roberts and Joe O. Don’t see the need to release him, make manly compensate us

I agree but I don’t see it happening. Manly are clever why would they compensate us they have signed him for 2022.

Because they're pretty desperate for a prop for next season.

They have already offered him more than he is worth so I doubt they will want him to cost them anything more.

Let him sit in reserves then, that’s their fault for doing a bad deal

Of course it is, I think they have offered him a stupid amount. If we can use his money or squad spot to improve our roster then let him go.

Not too much on the market. Of course if we found someone We wanted to take his spot then go for it but doubt that happens for a bit. In the mean time let’s keep talking to manly and see if we can get a deal out of them

If we get a player from Manly while they pay Aloiai $600k then tht would be one of the worst recruitment decision I have seen a club make. Up there with Hunt being a $1m+ player.

Guess we’ll have to wait and see how bad they want him. A swap is always hard because the clubs need to agree and the players need to agree so it’s a long process. While we have no reason to release him we need to push manly into doing something though even if it’s just financial compensation

Not if it damages us by trying to make a point. The most important thing for us is to improve our squad, not prove a point.

As it stands Wests Tigers contracts aren’t worth anything, the moment a stronger club wants you, you can walk. We need to make a point that that ends here. Lee was pretty strong on that and I’m 100% behind him. Will be very disillusioned if he backs down

While I agree, what I think is more important is a successful season next year and Aloiai playing reserves doesn't add to that.

I’m content to completely disregard 2021 if it means the club will no longer be the dead carcass to the vultures of the NRL. We won’t win while we have the ‘rich three’ anyway.

We are improving the roster, a top 8 spot is not out of the question for next year. I we are in the 8 all year next year then that makes recruitment for 2022 so much easier.

Yes try and get something from Manly, I doubt they will give up anything, but don't damage 2021 to prove a point. Instead get the rules fixed by the NRL, hit the message hard that these rules are hurting the game. Even if you release him speak about your reluctance to do so and how the rules need to be changed .

The important thing about this is not making Aloiai waste in reserve grade, it is ensuring it doesn't happen again, the best way to do that is to get rules in place to prevent it.

I am not in favour of him in reggies, I want us to get a Sironen or a Schuster. But if Manly don’t play ball then our message to the NRL should be look, we have our best prop playing reserve grade because of your rules.

The more I think about it Aloiai has been low-balled too (due to earlier failings in recruiting) he was our best forward last year and is better than he’s getting credit for. A teams best forward is worth at least 500K a year.

Giving up our best forward two years in a row will just fan the perception that we’re a push over.

I agree rule changes are needed but will Politis, Rusty and co?

 

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I hope that if we sign Joe O, the club doesn’t go ‘oh that’s a good replacement for Aloiai, he can go to manly now’

Screw that, demand compensation from Manly still. Sironen or they can pay us a couple hundred grand for us. Just because we’ve signed someone in his spot doesn’t mean we should let him go

They won’t have a choice they will want the player starting training shortly and Aloai gone. We will need the cap room. Will play out the same way as it did Matterson. We brought Leilua in who arguably had the better season at a lower cost.
NRL has to fix this.

Do we need the cap room? He’s on $350k and we’ve got plenty of cap left even with signing Roberts and Joe O. Don’t see the need to release him, make manly compensate us

I agree but I don’t see it happening. Manly are clever why would they compensate us they have signed him for 2022.

Because they're pretty desperate for a prop for next season.

They have already offered him more than he is worth so I doubt they will want him to cost them anything more.

Let him sit in reserves then, that’s their fault for doing a bad deal

Of course it is, I think they have offered him a stupid amount. If we can use his money or squad spot to improve our roster then let him go.

Not too much on the market. Of course if we found someone We wanted to take his spot then go for it but doubt that happens for a bit. In the mean time let’s keep talking to manly and see if we can get a deal out of them

If we get a player from Manly while they pay Aloiai $600k then tht would be one of the worst recruitment decision I have seen a club make. Up there with Hunt being a $1m+ player.

Guess we’ll have to wait and see how bad they want him. A swap is always hard because the clubs need to agree and the players need to agree so it’s a long process. While we have no reason to release him we need to push manly into doing something though even if it’s just financial compensation

Not if it damages us by trying to make a point. The most important thing for us is to improve our squad, not prove a point.

As it stands Wests Tigers contracts aren’t worth anything, the moment a stronger club wants you, you can walk. We need to make a point that that ends here. Lee was pretty strong on that and I’m 100% behind him. Will be very disillusioned if he backs down

While I agree, what I think is more important is a successful season next year and Aloiai playing reserves doesn't add to that.

I’m content to completely disregard 2021 if it means the club will no longer be the dead carcass to the vultures of the NRL. We won’t win while we have the ‘rich three’ anyway.

We are improving the roster, a top 8 spot is not out of the question for next year. I we are in the 8 all year next year then that makes recruitment for 2022 so much easier.

Yes try and get something from Manly, I doubt they will give up anything, but don't damage 2021 to prove a point. Instead get the rules fixed by the NRL, hit the message hard that these rules are hurting the game. Even if you release him speak about your reluctance to do so and how the rules need to be changed .

The important thing about this is not making Aloiai waste in reserve grade, it is ensuring it doesn't happen again, the best way to do that is to get rules in place to prevent it.


I am not in favour of him in reggies, I want us to get a Sironen or a Schuster. But if Manly don’t play ball then our message to the NRL should be look, we have our best prop playing reserve grade because of your rules.

The more I think about it Aloiai has been low-balled too (due to earlier failings in recruiting) he was our best forward last year and is better than he’s getting credit for. A teams best forward is worth at least 500K a year.

Giving up our best forward two years in a row will just fan the perception that we’re a push over.

I agree rule changes are needed but will Politis, Rusty and co?

Best forward says more about our forward pack, than it does Aloiai... imo 450k was about the right amount of would be giving him (max 500k)

 

[BAGNF05]

I hope that if we sign Joe O, the club doesn’t go ‘oh that’s a good replacement for Aloiai, he can go to manly now’

Screw that, demand compensation from Manly still. Sironen or they can pay us a couple hundred grand for us. Just because we’ve signed someone in his spot doesn’t mean we should let him go

They won’t have a choice they will want the player starting training shortly and Aloai gone. We will need the cap room. Will play out the same way as it did Matterson. We brought Leilua in who arguably had the better season at a lower cost.
NRL has to fix this.

Do we need the cap room? He’s on $350k and we’ve got plenty of cap left even with signing Roberts and Joe O. Don’t see the need to release him, make manly compensate us

I agree but I don’t see it happening. Manly are clever why would they compensate us they have signed him for 2022.

Because they're pretty desperate for a prop for next season.

They have already offered him more than he is worth so I doubt they will want him to cost them anything more.

Let him sit in reserves then, that’s their fault for doing a bad deal

Of course it is, I think they have offered him a stupid amount. If we can use his money or squad spot to improve our roster then let him go.

Not too much on the market. Of course if we found someone We wanted to take his spot then go for it but doubt that happens for a bit. In the mean time let’s keep talking to manly and see if we can get a deal out of them

If we get a player from Manly while they pay Aloiai $600k then tht would be one of the worst recruitment decision I have seen a club make. Up there with Hunt being a $1m+ player.

Guess we’ll have to wait and see how bad they want him. A swap is always hard because the clubs need to agree and the players need to agree so it’s a long process. While we have no reason to release him we need to push manly into doing something though even if it’s just financial compensation

Not if it damages us by trying to make a point. The most important thing for us is to improve our squad, not prove a point.

As it stands Wests Tigers contracts aren’t worth anything, the moment a stronger club wants you, you can walk. We need to make a point that that ends here. Lee was pretty strong on that and I’m 100% behind him. Will be very disillusioned if he backs down

While I agree, what I think is more important is a successful season next year and Aloiai playing reserves doesn't add to that.

I’m content to completely disregard 2021 if it means the club will no longer be the dead carcass to the vultures of the NRL. We won’t win while we have the ‘rich three’ anyway.

We are improving the roster, a top 8 spot is not out of the question for next year. I we are in the 8 all year next year then that makes recruitment for 2022 so much easier.

Yes try and get something from Manly, I doubt they will give up anything, but don't damage 2021 to prove a point. Instead get the rules fixed by the NRL, hit the message hard that these rules are hurting the game. Even if you release him speak about your reluctance to do so and how the rules need to be changed .

The important thing about this is not making Aloiai waste in reserve grade, it is ensuring it doesn't happen again, the best way to do that is to get rules in place to prevent it.


I am not in favour of him in reggies, I want us to get a Sironen or a Schuster. But if Manly don’t play ball then our message to the NRL should be look, we have our best prop playing reserve grade because of your rules.

The more I think about it Aloiai has been low-balled too (due to earlier failings in recruiting) he was our best forward last year and is better than he’s getting credit for. A teams best forward is worth at least 500K a year.

Giving up our best forward two years in a row will just fan the perception that we’re a push over.

I agree rule changes are needed but will Politis, Rusty and co?

Best forward says more about our forward pack, than it does Aloiai... imo 450k was about the right amount of would be giving him (max 500k)

Maybe that nominal figure of 500 and he still loves the club, maybe Rusty could shout him a lunch or two as well.