Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

Here’s a great example of what Harry can do. In this Twitter thread you see him give Brooks good space to attack, get Eiso rolling forward with a perfect pass, run himself and get us in attacking position and then fire two beautiful passes to brooks to set up the try.

The bloke has it all. Let’s not pretend his service isn’t good. The example are all here https://twitter.com/rlwriters/status/1348791654015123462?s=21

Anyway a bit off topic so rant over lol
 
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1294752) said:
Madge is definitely a fan of Liddle

Yep, Madge had Liddle in the Coaches box with him during his rehab. If he didn't rate him he would have left him on the masseuse's table!
 
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1294752) said:
@speed2burn said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1294749) said:
@jai_donaldson said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1294746) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1294721) said:
@telltails said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1294718) said:
I still dont understand how anyone can confidently rate - or not rate Liddle for that matter - as a FG DH. Yep have seen some good things from him in short spurts, but until he cements the position and consistently plays it's all just wishful thinking. Hope he fires this year but comparing him to any other DH at this point seems premature.Looking forward to 2021 to solve the argument once and for all.

Looks a crafty player but I have questions. Is he tough enough to play the game like Harry G or Hodgson? Is he smart enough to play the game in a dinner suit like Cam or Cook? Guess we’ll find out.

My concern is his durability over a full season. He's had serious shoulder and knee issues most seasons since his debut and hooker is one of the most physical roles in the team. He's def looked good at times though.

I think the fact the club has persisted with him for so long speaks volumes. Could have easily just not renewed him and let him rot away but the club keeps investing time in him and he gets first crack at 9. Now it’s time for him to repay the faith.

Madge is definitely a fan of Liddle he’s mentioned in a few interviews he rates him.

I will go with Liddle to start the season .. but if he cant find form, get our pigs rolling, or gets injured again .. its a no brainer for me .. Simpkin is in .. !! But people say he hasn't played a single game in the NRL .. well guess what .. if we dont step him up .. he'll never get that 1st NRL game under his belt ..

Liddle has to be creative and decisive in his darts and runs out of dummy half .. I'm hoping that he studied and learnt when and how Grant took his runs last season .. !!
 
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1294755) said:
Here’s a great example of what Harry can do. In this Twitter thread you see him give Brooks good space to attack, get Eiso rolling forward with a perfect pass, run himself and get us in attacking position and then fire two beautiful passes to brooks to set up the try.

The bloke has it all. Let’s not pretend his service isn’t good. The example are all here https://twitter.com/rlwriters/status/1348791654015123462?s=21

Anyway a bit off topic so rant over lol

I think people underestimate the work of support runners, was able to put that dogs defender in two minds and get Eiso one on one with him, and the Huth is a big hombre.

Anyways yes Grant is a once in a generation player and will find himself in a kangaroos jumper sooner rather than later. I am glad we seen him in a tigers jersey but I’m in full support of Lids/Simpkins moving forward
 
@mike said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1294676) said:
@sleeve said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1294675) said:
@finnzo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1294661) said:
@dow1704 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1294659) said:
I heard Cam Mcinness has asked for a release to join tigers on a 4 year deal effective immediately.

Really hope this is true

How much would MacGinness be worth? As a lock $500,000 ?As a 9 $600 to $700,000.Meanwhile we have a backline without a real attacking weapon.I can't understand why every time a lock or DH comes on the market that we have to buy him.Sure i like him,but surely our backline is the main priority.

The backline is coming along nicely, not perfect but heaps better. Lots of options available. What we are missing is a genuine lock. Twal is not it, he's a prop and needs to be on prop rotation.

Hey Mike,the heaps of options avaiiable for this year are they options like last year?Only JTJ who i like,Kepoa and Madden whohave talent but the club seems to persist with the same 4 guys that people refuse to accept are not up to the standard of players at other clubs.
 
@moh said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1294717) said:
I really don’t want Mcinnes.

I respect his attitude a ton but I honestly dont think we need him. We need to invest somewhere else before we lock another #9.

We can afford to wait til mid season and assess our current stocks before forking out premium $$$.
 
I think this year personally Harry Grants game will change completely, only because if he doesn’t improve his game I feel like he will be found out in games when he scoots from dummy half, or that he’ll gas out.

in the perfect world someone just needs to keep on him and give him pressure.

I remember the days we always went up against the cowboys with JT playing, Chris Lawrence ALWAYS did his job by shutting him down.

That just needs to be the same as someone hunting down Grant.
 
Also Mcinnes actually made the most Average tackles in the comp.. why not have him defending the team and lifting it up at the same time?

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@isaaktigers said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1294765) said:
Also Mcinnes actually made the most Average tackles in the comp.. why not have him defending the team and lifting it up at the same time?

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I posted this earlier but he is the definition of hard work. It would rub off on all our players and potentially a long term captain. But only as a 13
 
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1294755) said:
Here’s a great example of what Harry can do. In this Twitter thread you see him give Brooks good space to attack, get Eiso rolling forward with a perfect pass, run himself and get us in attacking position and then fire two beautiful passes to brooks to set up the try.

The bloke has it all. Let’s not pretend his service isn’t good. The example are all here https://twitter.com/rlwriters/status/1348791654015123462?s=21

Anyway a bit off topic so rant over lol

All of that is from midfield or beyond mate . You are literally proving my point . I am not talking about who is the superior player . I’m talking about getting your forwards onto the ball in situations where they really shouldn’t . And the reason Liddle does this , is he’s a far bigger threat when he scoots out because he’s way faster than Harry.

Liddle service is fast as all get out off the deck and accurate . But Harry is the more complete player . But he has weakness . Most notably his ruck manipulation, in the dirty end . Everybody has weakness mate .
And I think liddles style is better for the current makeup of the team. But I am nervous about his body and weak first contact in defence . But he looks way bigger this year . So we will see .
Liddle equals poor mans Damien Cook . Harry equals poor mans Cam Smith . This is all I’m saying .
 
I posted this earlier but he is the definition of hard work. It would rub off on all our players and potentially a long term captain. But only as a 13

Would make the perfect 13 for us; leader, highly competitive, great defender and has a passing game.

Not to mention would be able to slot nicely into 9 if injuries occur.
 
I think it’s hard on Harry to dismiss his serviceability given he played 60+ minutes on 13 occasions, essentially in his debut year.

Meanwhile, with Liddle it’s no doubt he has good service, but he has only played 3 games at 60+ minutes in the past 5 seasons.

Fatigue plays a huge part in service quality IMO and obviously I have heard Liddle is super fit, but I’m saying that Grant isn’t a slouch either.

Time will tell and don’t get me wrong, I do rate what I’ve seen of Liddle, though I would be cautious expecting the same quality service as he gives in a 30 minute stint and a 60+ minute stint.
 
Speaking of players we don’t have I see Katoni Staggs manager is Isaac Moses (appeal pending) has emailed Clubs with a starting price of 700K to lure the young gun from Red Hill..as foxsports understands
 
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1294769) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1294755) said:
Here’s a great example of what Harry can do. In this Twitter thread you see him give Brooks good space to attack, get Eiso rolling forward with a perfect pass, run himself and get us in attacking position and then fire two beautiful passes to brooks to set up the try.

The bloke has it all. Let’s not pretend his service isn’t good. The example are all here https://twitter.com/rlwriters/status/1348791654015123462?s=21

Anyway a bit off topic so rant over lol

All of that is from midfield or beyond mate . You are literally proving my point . I am not talking about who is the superior player . I’m talking about getting your forwards onto the ball in situations where they really shouldn’t . And the reason Liddle does this , is he’s a far bigger threat when he scoots out because he’s way faster than Harry.

Liddle service is fast as all get out off the deck and accurate . But Harry is the more complete player . But he has weakness . Most notably his ruck manipulation, in the dirty end . Everybody has weakness mate .
And I think liddles style is better for the current makeup of the team. But I am nervous about his body and weak first contact in defence . But he looks way bigger this year . So we will see .
Liddle equals poor mans Damien Cook . Harry equals poor mans Cam Smith . This is all I’m saying .

You are all forgetting Simkin,i think he and Madden at 5/8 wil add the attack we badly need.
 
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1294751) said:
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1294741) said:
@dgilly said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1294712) said:
I mean there's no way Liddle is better than Grant. I hope he has a big year but be reasonable

I didn’t say that . I knew some of you would read it that way . I said Grants a better footballer, ball plays , close to the line , and creates . But Grants distribution is general play , was dismal . I’m not talking the fancy stuff . I’m talking tackle 3 ,on our own 20m . And from what I’ve seen if liddle , I notice , that in those situations , he will manipulate the markers , with fades of the body , deception with direction of pass etc. which allows the ball runner to get in behind the markers . Farah did this well, he just went superhero mode when we were in the red zone .And that’s where I think he learnt it.
Grant is a player you build the whole gameplan around . Liddle is better 9 for the system we play . If he stays healthy , I’m very confident you will see what I see .

Dismal? You’re joking right. Nothing about his game is dismal. Harry was masterful as keeping markers guessing too because he’s such a threat with the ball in his hand, and he proved that at the highest level of the game.

I like Liddle and think he’ll go well but yeesh the bias is astounding. Harry Grant was our best player every time he played really. Liddle will give our halves good service but based off brooks last season not sure if that’s good or not to be honest. Hopefully Jacob runs the ball a lot too, it’s essential with the new rules he needs to do the dirty work too

Your bias towards Harry is astounding as well... lol I will go Liddle over Harry... sorry to differ with your opinion. 🙂
 
@shooter-mcgavin said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1294771) said:
I think it’s hard on Harry to dismiss his serviceability given he played 60+ minutes on 13 occasions, essentially in his debut year.

Meanwhile, with Liddle it’s no doubt he has good service, but he has only played 3 games at 60+ minutes in the past 5 seasons.

Fatigue plays a huge part in service quality IMO and obviously I have heard Liddle is super fit, but I’m saying that Grant isn’t a slouch either.

Time will tell and don’t get me wrong, I do rate what I’ve seen of Liddle, though I would be cautious expecting the same quality service as he gives in a 30 minute stint and a 60+ minute stint.

Add the additional workload in defence Grant was forced to endure not sure Liddle could endure that and hope he doesnt have to . HG's game at Melbourne should be quite different too. Plenty of go forward, with a spine we would all love to have. It was a tough intro to FG at our club for Harry and I have nothing but admiration for how he played.
 
@4jtigers said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1294775) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1294751) said:
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1294741) said:
@dgilly said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1294712) said:
I mean there's no way Liddle is better than Grant. I hope he has a big year but be reasonable

I didn’t say that . I knew some of you would read it that way . I said Grants a better footballer, ball plays , close to the line , and creates . But Grants distribution is general play , was dismal . I’m not talking the fancy stuff . I’m talking tackle 3 ,on our own 20m . And from what I’ve seen if liddle , I notice , that in those situations , he will manipulate the markers , with fades of the body , deception with direction of pass etc. which allows the ball runner to get in behind the markers . Farah did this well, he just went superhero mode when we were in the red zone .And that’s where I think he learnt it.
Grant is a player you build the whole gameplan around . Liddle is better 9 for the system we play . If he stays healthy , I’m very confident you will see what I see .

Dismal? You’re joking right. Nothing about his game is dismal. Harry was masterful as keeping markers guessing too because he’s such a threat with the ball in his hand, and he proved that at the highest level of the game.

I like Liddle and think he’ll go well but yeesh the bias is astounding. Harry Grant was our best player every time he played really. Liddle will give our halves good service but based off brooks last season not sure if that’s good or not to be honest. Hopefully Jacob runs the ball a lot too, it’s essential with the new rules he needs to do the dirty work too

Your bias towards Harry is astounding as well... lol I will go Liddle over Harry... sorry to differ with your opinion. 🙂

Harry Grant is one of the best dummy half’s in the game. Liddle is yet to prove himself as a consistent first grader.
 
@shooter-mcgavin said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1294771) said:
I think it’s hard on Harry to dismiss his serviceability given he played 60+ minutes on 13 occasions, essentially in his debut year.

Meanwhile, with Liddle it’s no doubt he has good service, but he has only played 3 games at 60+ minutes in the past 5 seasons.

Fatigue plays a huge part in service quality IMO and obviously I have heard Liddle is super fit, but I’m saying that Grant isn’t a slouch either.

Time will tell and don’t get me wrong, I do rate what I’ve seen of Liddle, though I would be cautious expecting the same quality service as he gives in a 30 minute stint and a 60+ minute stint.

Totally . But we can all only comment on what we’ve seen . I’m just pushing back on the Liddle isn’t good , and we are supremely weaker without Harry garbage . Because it’s not true. And I will argue to the cows come home IMO if everyone plays just the bare minimum of thier potential , we will be better . Even the fact Harry always went to benji , which irritated me to the max . Whether that was trust , which is fair enough , icon worshipping , or over calling , but a lot of the time it wasn’t on . How many growl line dropouts did we get last year ?
I guess it’s a difference in philosophy. I personally want my dummy half to get the ball out quick to the half to get early ball to the backs . Especially when it’s not expected . I want my halves to control the flow of the game . Because Cam smith is a once in a generational player . And the nearest player to his skill set was Robbie , or Danny Buderus .That’s ever by the way .

@geo said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1294773) said:
Speaking of players we don’t have I see Katoni Staggs manager is Isaac Moses (appeal pending) has emailed Clubs with a starting price of 700K to lure the young gun from Red Hill..as foxsports understands

Well he’s better than Cotric ,BJ , DWZ, etc . It kind of makes sense . A bit rich after the knee Reco though .
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1294777) said:
@4jtigers said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1294775) said:
@jc99 said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1294751) said:
@strongee said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1294741) said:
@dgilly said in [Signing Suggestions & Rumours](/post/1294712) said:
I mean there's no way Liddle is better than Grant. I hope he has a big year but be reasonable

I didn’t say that . I knew some of you would read it that way . I said Grants a better footballer, ball plays , close to the line , and creates . But Grants distribution is general play , was dismal . I’m not talking the fancy stuff . I’m talking tackle 3 ,on our own 20m . And from what I’ve seen if liddle , I notice , that in those situations , he will manipulate the markers , with fades of the body , deception with direction of pass etc. which allows the ball runner to get in behind the markers . Farah did this well, he just went superhero mode when we were in the red zone .And that’s where I think he learnt it.
Grant is a player you build the whole gameplan around . Liddle is better 9 for the system we play . If he stays healthy , I’m very confident you will see what I see .

Dismal? You’re joking right. Nothing about his game is dismal. Harry was masterful as keeping markers guessing too because he’s such a threat with the ball in his hand, and he proved that at the highest level of the game.

I like Liddle and think he’ll go well but yeesh the bias is astounding. Harry Grant was our best player every time he played really. Liddle will give our halves good service but based off brooks last season not sure if that’s good or not to be honest. Hopefully Jacob runs the ball a lot too, it’s essential with the new rules he needs to do the dirty work too

Your bias towards Harry is astounding as well... lol I will go Liddle over Harry... sorry to differ with your opinion. 🙂

Harry Grant is one of the best dummy half’s in the game. Liddle is yet to prove himself as a consistent first grader.

I am sure he will if he stays injury free... you can always see it in him when he is given the time to play.
 

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