Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[Big Brain]

Anyone know if Laurie is a goal kicker?

Asking for a friend.. 😀

ADs strike rate at the end of the year was pretty good . His percentage was brought down by his abysmal start . I’d say as the year went on he became more comfortable , and I’d also argue that his strike Nd purchase of the ball are pretty awesome.

If memory recalls properly Doueihi had a leg muscle injury which hampered his kicking in 2020?

Yea that as well apparently . Do people remember momo missing from in front to lose us a game ? Or did I imagine that ?

Yes recall against the Bulldogs.
We should never had been in that position to kick a goal to Tie the game on fulltime, also leading at the break, Bulldogs were bottom of ladder again attitude thought we only had to show up to Win.

see match stats below Momo he also scored 2 tries....

3
TRIES
3
Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs tries achieved by:
Josh Jackson 42'
Jeremy Marshall-King 47'
Nick Meaney 53'
Wests Tigers tries achieved by:
Paul Momirovski 7'
Paul Momirovski 72'
Luke Garner 78'

3/3
CONVERSIONS
1/3
Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs conversions achieved by:
Nick Meaney 43'
Nick Meaney 48'
Nick Meaney 55'
Wests Tigers conversions achieved by:
Paul Momirovski 8'

PENALTY GOALS
1/2
Wests Tigers penaltyGoals achieved by:
Paul Momirovski 30'

Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs sinBin achieved by:
Chris Smith 77'
Wests Tigers sinbin achieved by:
Luke Garner 23'
HALF TIME WESTS TIGERS 8 - 0 BULLDOGS

I’m merely using this as an example that he isn’t the goal kicking messiah , and in fact his on field skill is probably a more apt way of assessing his talent . That’s all.

Well you should not state for losing the game, his overall stats were quite good and he did perform, just making my point but all good.

Agree Goal kicking in recent seasons have cost us playing finals might again this year unless % improve.

Madge not keen on moving him on and i tend to agree if other don't perform he will be playing 1st grade and he needs to realize that this club gives him more opportunity with those who are in front of him.


Mate, you see the irony here. All those that want Momo gone, based on a single newspaper article and a forum contributor who thought he looked upset at training, are condoning exactly the same behaviour from Diane Laurie, our saviour. JL was public enemy No 1 last season, JTJ has been punted by 5 different clubs, TT hasn’t shown anything near what his raps indicate and Momo is a try scorer and goal kicker with experience at 2 premiership winning clubs. Do these people even watch football?

LOL , are you serious ? The issue with the tigers is a lack of dynamic players , who can break a deadlock , and change the outcome of a game . Or simply finish off a half break from a distance . This is what people are talking about .
We have always had good attacking structures throughout our history , but recently , it’s this quality which we have lacked .
Joey , has been told to have a long hard look in the mirror of which he has responded . Jimmy has had a horrendous childhood full of sexual abuse , and abandonment. And only recently in the last year , has he started to open up , and try and find something cathartic, in a really messed up story . Talau who is the next drop , is a sought after impact centre , who could be anything .
And then There’s Kei . One of the most talked about juniors I’ve seen on here , who many good judges think is going to be a star.

Yes we arch footy . But we clearly watch a lot closer than you do. Quoting tries and goal kicks .


So what you’re trying to tell me is your two first choice centres have been told to have a long hard look at themselves or find something cathartic, but a bloke who scores 14 tries in 19 games doesn’t rate.

Lol you can spin it anyway you want , but if I’m a coach , and I’ve got a guy in my team who I can throw a cutout ball to, and know he can do an in and away and score an 80m try , I want hat bloke in my team . Or if I can put a bloke in my team who one on one , is near on unstoppable, yea I want that guy in my team.
What do you think it’s a coincidence that every single winger to play outside Joey has high teens in the try scoring department ?
Just by him being there , created space for players if you know how to use him.
Momo does not do that . With momo you slide onto to him, hold your ground , and wait for the block play to unveil itself , as you can trust your probably going to make that tackle .
This is my knowledge of rugby league .
That the guy who sets up the try , a lot of the time isn’t even the guy who touches ball . With guys like BJ and JTJ you have to respect and acknowledge them , because they can absolutely destroy you , if you don’t . Who’s ever said that about MOMO?


I’ll give you that about JL, but not JTJ. That they don’t say that about Momo is because he’s only 19 games in. Please, 5 clubs don’t ask you to leave if you’re any good.

I don’t care what you give me . You’ve got no idea . It’s obvious with every word you say . If you would you’d understand how out of touch you are , with the reasons why JTJ can be anything , and the reasons why he sabotaged himself previously . If your not 16 year old school kid , I feel sorry for you .


Haha haha. So magically, JTJ at 26 is going to transform into the messiah because you read something somewhere in a comic book. Give yourself an uppercut.

What ? Wow ! You absolutely suck at this human game . Maybe you should try something else . The guy has had some serious stuff to get through , and you sound like you have no idea , how a guy with those kind of issues can be toxic to himself and others . It’s with admitting the issue, seeking help , and finding people around you who care that you can truely try to heal , and become most importantly a good person you can be proud of . .
This is why I support him , as , he sounds like the kind of guy I want to back . And he’s a talented footballer who leaves plodders like momo in his dust .

Agreed mate, I am always happy to support someone who owns their mistakes. He has always seemed to this and doesn't hide from his issues or mistakes. When he needs help he usually puts his hand up and seeks that support.

I just think it shows maturity , to even admit this stuff . Let alone go on a podcast and lay it out for all to see . I know a lot of blokes , who have experiences like his , and , many , just can’t help themselves from themselves . It’s the ones who are open about it , and try to have conversations , that seem to be the most ok. But even then , the pit of despair is only around the corner , and can open up at any time .
And for this I Applaud the guy , and hope he can show for himself what he can do. And if that helps some poor kid , going through that stuff right now , or another coming through , especially a young indigenous boy/girl , well how good is that . ?

Spot on mate, I suffer from mental health issues related to experiences growing up. I know how hard it is to talk about an I really admire Roberts honesty and openness. He has his relapses but is always willing to work on his issues and seeks out assistance. At times I wish I could be as strong as he is.

Me too mate . I have huge aggression issues, because of it , which made me good for footy and fighting , but not so much in the real world . I know blokes who have killed themselves , others who can’t stop sleeping around , because how low they really think of themselves , others who are celibate because of how horrid they are to deal with in relationships .
Mental health issues everywhere . Pretty disgusting when some imbecile on here , makes a mockery of the bloke just to win an argument .
No respect for people like that to be honest . If I could van him I would .which is surprising because I’m never an advocate for that .


I know you’re talking about me but I never made a mockery of him and I hold you to account for saying that. I said he needs to prove himself as a footballer due to his history and I stand by that. As a bloke I never doubted him and it’s children like you that perpetuate these issues, spreading innuendo and making false claims. Grow up.

Seriously dude , you have issues .

What, because I called you out? Read my posts you phoney. Have I ever doubted Jimmy’s integrity as a man? No. You’ve got the issues Pygmy.

 

[Leichardt61]

Just taking a stab in the dark but my theory is Momirovski asked for a release to join the Dogs. The club said no but if you want to go to Penrith so we can get Laurie we would be open to that. He doesn’t want to go to Penrith because he will be playing reggies there too. Now we have a Mexican standoff.

Or it is nothing like that and I’m just making things up in my head again ?‍♂️

This does seem plausible. If he did get an offer from Dogs I wonder would they offer Meaney up as a swap. I'd be happy with that exchange.

Would meaney even be willing to swap for what would have to be a pretty short contract as a backup most likely?

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Anyone know if Laurie is a goal kicker?

Asking for a friend.. 😀

ADs strike rate at the end of the year was pretty good . His percentage was brought down by his abysmal start . I’d say as the year went on he became more comfortable , and I’d also argue that his strike Nd purchase of the ball are pretty awesome.

If memory recalls properly Doueihi had a leg muscle injury which hampered his kicking in 2020?

Yea that as well apparently . Do people remember momo missing from in front to lose us a game ? Or did I imagine that ?

Yes recall against the Bulldogs.
We should never had been in that position to kick a goal to Tie the game on fulltime, also leading at the break, Bulldogs were bottom of ladder again attitude thought we only had to show up to Win.

see match stats below Momo he also scored 2 tries....

3
TRIES
3
Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs tries achieved by:
Josh Jackson 42'
Jeremy Marshall-King 47'
Nick Meaney 53'
Wests Tigers tries achieved by:
Paul Momirovski 7'
Paul Momirovski 72'
Luke Garner 78'

3/3
CONVERSIONS
1/3
Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs conversions achieved by:
Nick Meaney 43'
Nick Meaney 48'
Nick Meaney 55'
Wests Tigers conversions achieved by:
Paul Momirovski 8'

PENALTY GOALS
1/2
Wests Tigers penaltyGoals achieved by:
Paul Momirovski 30'

Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs sinBin achieved by:
Chris Smith 77'
Wests Tigers sinbin achieved by:
Luke Garner 23'
HALF TIME WESTS TIGERS 8 - 0 BULLDOGS

I’m merely using this as an example that he isn’t the goal kicking messiah , and in fact his on field skill is probably a more apt way of assessing his talent . That’s all.

Well you should not state for losing the game, his overall stats were quite good and he did perform, just making my point but all good.

Agree Goal kicking in recent seasons have cost us playing finals might again this year unless % improve.

Madge not keen on moving him on and i tend to agree if other don't perform he will be playing 1st grade and he needs to realize that this club gives him more opportunity with those who are in front of him.


Mate, you see the irony here. All those that want Momo gone, based on a single newspaper article and a forum contributor who thought he looked upset at training, are condoning exactly the same behaviour from Diane Laurie, our saviour. JL was public enemy No 1 last season, JTJ has been punted by 5 different clubs, TT hasn’t shown anything near what his raps indicate and Momo is a try scorer and goal kicker with experience at 2 premiership winning clubs. Do these people even watch football?

LOL , are you serious ? The issue with the tigers is a lack of dynamic players , who can break a deadlock , and change the outcome of a game . Or simply finish off a half break from a distance . This is what people are talking about .
We have always had good attacking structures throughout our history , but recently , it’s this quality which we have lacked .
Joey , has been told to have a long hard look in the mirror of which he has responded . Jimmy has had a horrendous childhood full of sexual abuse , and abandonment. And only recently in the last year , has he started to open up , and try and find something cathartic, in a really messed up story . Talau who is the next drop , is a sought after impact centre , who could be anything .
And then There’s Kei . One of the most talked about juniors I’ve seen on here , who many good judges think is going to be a star.

Yes we arch footy . But we clearly watch a lot closer than you do. Quoting tries and goal kicks .


So what you’re trying to tell me is your two first choice centres have been told to have a long hard look at themselves or find something cathartic, but a bloke who scores 14 tries in 19 games doesn’t rate.

Lol you can spin it anyway you want , but if I’m a coach , and I’ve got a guy in my team who I can throw a cutout ball to, and know he can do an in and away and score an 80m try , I want hat bloke in my team . Or if I can put a bloke in my team who one on one , is near on unstoppable, yea I want that guy in my team.
What do you think it’s a coincidence that every single winger to play outside Joey has high teens in the try scoring department ?
Just by him being there , created space for players if you know how to use him.
Momo does not do that . With momo you slide onto to him, hold your ground , and wait for the block play to unveil itself , as you can trust your probably going to make that tackle .
This is my knowledge of rugby league .
That the guy who sets up the try , a lot of the time isn’t even the guy who touches ball . With guys like BJ and JTJ you have to respect and acknowledge them , because they can absolutely destroy you , if you don’t . Who’s ever said that about MOMO?


I’ll give you that about JL, but not JTJ. That they don’t say that about Momo is because he’s only 19 games in. Please, 5 clubs don’t ask you to leave if you’re any good.

I don’t care what you give me . You’ve got no idea . It’s obvious with every word you say . If you would you’d understand how out of touch you are , with the reasons why JTJ can be anything , and the reasons why he sabotaged himself previously . If your not 16 year old school kid , I feel sorry for you .


Haha haha. So magically, JTJ at 26 is going to transform into the messiah because you read something somewhere in a comic book. Give yourself an uppercut.

What ? Wow ! You absolutely suck at this human game . Maybe you should try something else . The guy has had some serious stuff to get through , and you sound like you have no idea , how a guy with those kind of issues can be toxic to himself and others . It’s with admitting the issue, seeking help , and finding people around you who care that you can truely try to heal , and become most importantly a good person you can be proud of . .
This is why I support him , as , he sounds like the kind of guy I want to back . And he’s a talented footballer who leaves plodders like momo in his dust .

Agreed mate, I am always happy to support someone who owns their mistakes. He has always seemed to this and doesn't hide from his issues or mistakes. When he needs help he usually puts his hand up and seeks that support.

I just think it shows maturity , to even admit this stuff . Let alone go on a podcast and lay it out for all to see . I know a lot of blokes , who have experiences like his , and , many , just can’t help themselves from themselves . It’s the ones who are open about it , and try to have conversations , that seem to be the most ok. But even then , the pit of despair is only around the corner , and can open up at any time .
And for this I Applaud the guy , and hope he can show for himself what he can do. And if that helps some poor kid , going through that stuff right now , or another coming through , especially a young indigenous boy/girl , well how good is that . ?

Spot on mate, I suffer from mental health issues related to experiences growing up. I know how hard it is to talk about an I really admire Roberts honesty and openness. He has his relapses but is always willing to work on his issues and seeks out assistance. At times I wish I could be as strong as he is.

Me too mate . I have huge aggression issues, because of it , which made me good for footy and fighting , but not so much in the real world . I know blokes who have killed themselves , others who can’t stop sleeping around , because how low they really think of themselves , others who are celibate because of how horrid they are to deal with in relationships .
Mental health issues everywhere . Pretty disgusting when some imbecile on here , makes a mockery of the bloke just to win an argument .
No respect for people like that to be honest . If I could van him I would .which is surprising because I’m never an advocate for that .


I know you’re talking about me but I never made a mockery of him and I hold you to account for saying that. I said he needs to prove himself as a footballer due to his history and I stand by that. As a bloke I never doubted him and it’s children like you that perpetuate these issues, spreading innuendo and making false claims. Grow up.

Seriously dude , you have issues .


What, because I called you out? Read my posts you phoney. Have I ever doubted Jimmy’s integrity as a man? No. You’ve got the issues Pygmy.

So you didn’t say I was making up superhero stories , when I mentioned his issues ? You’re the joke mate . Stick to one , opinion , you chop and change , and now because you look like an absolute pig of a human you’re trying to walk it back .Can we get rid of this guy ? Seriously ?

 

[Harvey]

![alt text](Stephen Crichton’s contract standoff costs Penrith a pretty penny
Many thought Stephen Crichton was crazy to walk away from a $500K handshake deal, but the move is about to pay off big time.

The NRL’s next millionaire could be made this week with the Penrith Panthers set to table a deal that will make Stephen Crichton rugby league’s richest centre.

Crichton will be offered a $10,000-a-game upgrade to his existing contract as part of a new deal that is expected to be worth $2.25 million over three years.

Hoping to end the contract saga that began with a revelation that “the next big thing” reneged on a $500,000 handshake deal, the Panthers confirmed that a revised contract had been finalised and would be put to Crichton as early as this week.


Stephen Crichton is poised to become the highest paid centre in the game. Picture: Brett Costello
“It has been a bit of a process since the grand final but we are almost there,” Penrith coach Ivan Cleary (inset) said.

“It (managing the roster) has been a challenge for us after a successful year that came as a bit of a surprise, but we are confident that he won’t be going anywhere.”

It is understood the $2.25 million will include a $250,000 upgrade to his current contract which is set to expire at the end of this year.


Penrith coach Ivan Cleary was confident the club would retain Crichton. Picture: Mark Kolbe/Getty Images
The $750,000-a-year deal will leapfrog Crichton over Roosters powerhouse Joey Manu ($700,000) as the NRL’s highest-paid full-time centre in a stunning achievement for a 20-year-old who has played just 26 NRL games.

The Panthers are confident the new deal will be enough to fend off interest from a long line of rival clubs, led by the cashed-up Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs.

 

Yesterday at 9:38 PM


)

Chuck 800 on the table

And a 4 year deal

Or we could just stay away from him and get ourselves a backrower for the same money ....

Angus will stay at the rorters

Who else is available in the back row that's worth that sought of money?

Lots of them .....none available now

But BJ and Jet are going to make the best centre pairing since Meninga and Rodgers ...why replace them

Lol

Would love a great 2nd rower to rotate with LL and Blore though

And Crichton could be our fullback with Laurie five eight so money not wasted

Although he has proven himself as a fullback

I don't believe second row is a priority in the clubs eyes at the present time.

It should be .....you' have to question the club's motive's if it isn't

They are very impressed with Blore and expect him to have a breakout year in 21, there is also a belief that the club hurt Garners form in 2020.

Nothing against Garner ...but how many other club's sides would he make their Top 17

He isn't a starting backrower

The plan is that he won't be, I'm interested to see if there is an improvement in his form if he is moved back to play along side Brooks.

How many years do we give MCK ...Garner ....Seyfarth

Lets do a comparison Roosters : Flanagan from their last game until he signs with Dogs is 12 days from memory

They identify he isn't what they need and is gone

We have seen the MCK's ,Garner aren't what the club needs ...but they are still here 2-3 seasons later

I'm betting a bloke like Liddle wouldn't still be at the Roosters

We aren't thinking like the champions are ...and it blatantly shows

Madge and hartigan have let plenty of dead weight go and will continue to do so.

![alt text](Stephen Crichton’s contract standoff costs Penrith a pretty penny
Many thought Stephen Crichton was crazy to walk away from a $500K handshake deal, but the move is about to pay off big time.

The NRL’s next millionaire could be made this week with the Penrith Panthers set to table a deal that will make Stephen Crichton rugby league’s richest centre.

Crichton will be offered a $10,000-a-game upgrade to his existing contract as part of a new deal that is expected to be worth $2.25 million over three years.

Hoping to end the contract saga that began with a revelation that “the next big thing” reneged on a $500,000 handshake deal, the Panthers confirmed that a revised contract had been finalised and would be put to Crichton as early as this week.


Stephen Crichton is poised to become the highest paid centre in the game. Picture: Brett Costello
“It has been a bit of a process since the grand final but we are almost there,” Penrith coach Ivan Cleary (inset) said.

“It (managing the roster) has been a challenge for us after a successful year that came as a bit of a surprise, but we are confident that he won’t be going anywhere.”

It is understood the $2.25 million will include a $250,000 upgrade to his current contract which is set to expire at the end of this year.


Penrith coach Ivan Cleary was confident the club would retain Crichton. Picture: Mark Kolbe/Getty Images
The $750,000-a-year deal will leapfrog Crichton over Roosters powerhouse Joey Manu ($700,000) as the NRL’s highest-paid full-time centre in a stunning achievement for a 20-year-old who has played just 26 NRL games.

The Panthers are confident the new deal will be enough to fend off interest from a long line of rival clubs, led by the cashed-up Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs.

 

Yesterday at 9:38 PM


)

Chuck 800 on the table

And a 4 year deal

Or we could just stay away from him and get ourselves a backrower for the same money ....

Angus will stay at the rorters

Who else is available in the back row that's worth that sought of money?

Lots of them .....none available now

But BJ and Jet are going to make the best centre pairing since Meninga and Rodgers ...why replace them

Lol

Would love a great 2nd rower to rotate with LL and Blore though

And Crichton could be our fullback with Laurie five eight so money not wasted

Although he has proven himself as a fullback

I don't believe second row is a priority in the clubs eyes at the present time.

It should be .....you' have to question the club's motive's if it isn't

They are very impressed with Blore and expect him to have a breakout year in 21, there is also a belief that the club hurt Garners form in 2020.

Nothing against Garner ...but how many other club's sides would he make their Top 17

He isn't a starting backrower

The plan is that he won't be, I'm interested to see if there is an improvement in his form if he is moved back to play along side Brooks.

How many years do we give MCK ...Garner ....Seyfarth

Lets do a comparison Roosters : Flanagan from their last game until he signs with Dogs is 12 days from memory

They identify he isn't what they need and is gone

We have seen the MCK's ,Garner aren't what the club needs ...but they are still here 2-3 seasons later

I'm betting a bloke like Liddle wouldn't still be at the Roosters

We aren't thinking like the champions are ...and it blatantly shows

Madge and hartigan have cleared out plenty of dead wood and will continue to do so. No way MCK is kept on after this year same as a few other guys. Plenty of young fellas signed up ready to make their Mark and earn a top 30 spot down the line too. It just takes time

Took the Roosters 12 days is my point ....you work out they aren't keepers and flick them

Look at how quick Melbourne got rid of Brodie Croft

Sounds awful ...but thats what the top clubs do

To get rid of them you need to find a willing buyer. I don't think the queue for some of those mentioned would be very long.

 

[Newtown]

From Michael Chammas: "The Panthers are also considering signing Wests Tigers back Paul Momirovski in a deal which would potentially allow fullback Daine Laurie the opportunity to leave immediately and link up with the joint venture club."

But I thought Momirovski was our strike centre.

He played centre for the Roosters when they won the comp,

He only played 2 games and was dropped in the game that counted.

>then he played centre for the Storm when they won the comp

PLayed 6 games.

Ray Cashmere, Matt Jobson, Shannon McDonnell and Ben Reynolds all played in a team that won the comp.


....maybe Penrith know something you don't...

The same guy who would be buying Momo if its true also purchased Josh Reynolds on $900K

He wasn't dropped, he was replacing an injured starter and scored a try in a semi final.

He wasnt dropped? He wasnt injured and he wasnt picked, what would you call it?

He played 6 games at the Storm because he was injured.
Same bloke that bought Reynolds just won the minor premiership.

With the team that Hook built

You can spin it whichever way you like, he's got two premiership rings.

No he doesn't

Here we go again

Only players in the 17 get a ring, Thurston gave his to Steve Price when the Bulldogs won because Price missed the game.

Na Cheese - You're wrong....
Club can order as many as they like - Souths ordered 30 odd.

Yeah, they can, the club pays for them after the 17 though. If I was momirovski's situation, I wouldn't feel like a premiership player unless I played in the game or had been heavily involved in the season. Was Ben Reynolds a premiership winning player for us?

He played in a premier winning team but not in the team on Grand Final day. Was he a member of team, I think he was. Surly he made a contribution in some way, not in the GF but as member of the team. Yes he was.

Momo scored the wiining try in Roosters' semi final just prior to the grand final.

 

[JC99]

Anyone know if Laurie is a goal kicker?

Asking for a friend.. 😀

ADs strike rate at the end of the year was pretty good . His percentage was brought down by his abysmal start . I’d say as the year went on he became more comfortable , and I’d also argue that his strike Nd purchase of the ball are pretty awesome.

If memory recalls properly Doueihi had a leg muscle injury which hampered his kicking in 2020?

Yea that as well apparently . Do people remember momo missing from in front to lose us a game ? Or did I imagine that ?

Yes recall against the Bulldogs.
We should never had been in that position to kick a goal to Tie the game on fulltime, also leading at the break, Bulldogs were bottom of ladder again attitude thought we only had to show up to Win.

see match stats below Momo he also scored 2 tries....

3
TRIES
3
Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs tries achieved by:
Josh Jackson 42'
Jeremy Marshall-King 47'
Nick Meaney 53'
Wests Tigers tries achieved by:
Paul Momirovski 7'
Paul Momirovski 72'
Luke Garner 78'

3/3
CONVERSIONS
1/3
Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs conversions achieved by:
Nick Meaney 43'
Nick Meaney 48'
Nick Meaney 55'
Wests Tigers conversions achieved by:
Paul Momirovski 8'

PENALTY GOALS
1/2
Wests Tigers penaltyGoals achieved by:
Paul Momirovski 30'

Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs sinBin achieved by:
Chris Smith 77'
Wests Tigers sinbin achieved by:
Luke Garner 23'
HALF TIME WESTS TIGERS 8 - 0 BULLDOGS

I’m merely using this as an example that he isn’t the goal kicking messiah , and in fact his on field skill is probably a more apt way of assessing his talent . That’s all.

Well you should not state for losing the game, his overall stats were quite good and he did perform, just making my point but all good.

Agree Goal kicking in recent seasons have cost us playing finals might again this year unless % improve.

Madge not keen on moving him on and i tend to agree if other don't perform he will be playing 1st grade and he needs to realize that this club gives him more opportunity with those who are in front of him.


Mate, you see the irony here. All those that want Momo gone, based on a single newspaper article and a forum contributor who thought he looked upset at training, are condoning exactly the same behaviour from Diane Laurie, our saviour. JL was public enemy No 1 last season, JTJ has been punted by 5 different clubs, TT hasn’t shown anything near what his raps indicate and Momo is a try scorer and goal kicker with experience at 2 premiership winning clubs. Do these people even watch football?

LOL , are you serious ? The issue with the tigers is a lack of dynamic players , who can break a deadlock , and change the outcome of a game . Or simply finish off a half break from a distance . This is what people are talking about .
We have always had good attacking structures throughout our history , but recently , it’s this quality which we have lacked .
Joey , has been told to have a long hard look in the mirror of which he has responded . Jimmy has had a horrendous childhood full of sexual abuse , and abandonment. And only recently in the last year , has he started to open up , and try and find something cathartic, in a really messed up story . Talau who is the next drop , is a sought after impact centre , who could be anything .
And then There’s Kei . One of the most talked about juniors I’ve seen on here , who many good judges think is going to be a star.

Yes we arch footy . But we clearly watch a lot closer than you do. Quoting tries and goal kicks .


So what you’re trying to tell me is your two first choice centres have been told to have a long hard look at themselves or find something cathartic, but a bloke who scores 14 tries in 19 games doesn’t rate.

Lol you can spin it anyway you want , but if I’m a coach , and I’ve got a guy in my team who I can throw a cutout ball to, and know he can do an in and away and score an 80m try , I want hat bloke in my team . Or if I can put a bloke in my team who one on one , is near on unstoppable, yea I want that guy in my team.
What do you think it’s a coincidence that every single winger to play outside Joey has high teens in the try scoring department ?
Just by him being there , created space for players if you know how to use him.
Momo does not do that . With momo you slide onto to him, hold your ground , and wait for the block play to unveil itself , as you can trust your probably going to make that tackle .
This is my knowledge of rugby league .
That the guy who sets up the try , a lot of the time isn’t even the guy who touches ball . With guys like BJ and JTJ you have to respect and acknowledge them , because they can absolutely destroy you , if you don’t . Who’s ever said that about MOMO?


I’ll give you that about JL, but not JTJ. That they don’t say that about Momo is because he’s only 19 games in. Please, 5 clubs don’t ask you to leave if you’re any good.

I don’t care what you give me . You’ve got no idea . It’s obvious with every word you say . If you would you’d understand how out of touch you are , with the reasons why JTJ can be anything , and the reasons why he sabotaged himself previously . If your not 16 year old school kid , I feel sorry for you .


Haha haha. So magically, JTJ at 26 is going to transform into the messiah because you read something somewhere in a comic book. Give yourself an uppercut.

What ? Wow ! You absolutely suck at this human game . Maybe you should try something else . The guy has had some serious stuff to get through , and you sound like you have no idea , how a guy with those kind of issues can be toxic to himself and others . It’s with admitting the issue, seeking help , and finding people around you who care that you can truely try to heal , and become most importantly a good person you can be proud of . .
This is why I support him , as , he sounds like the kind of guy I want to back . And he’s a talented footballer who leaves plodders like momo in his dust .

Agreed mate, I am always happy to support someone who owns their mistakes. He has always seemed to this and doesn't hide from his issues or mistakes. When he needs help he usually puts his hand up and seeks that support.

I just think it shows maturity , to even admit this stuff . Let alone go on a podcast and lay it out for all to see . I know a lot of blokes , who have experiences like his , and , many , just can’t help themselves from themselves . It’s the ones who are open about it , and try to have conversations , that seem to be the most ok. But even then , the pit of despair is only around the corner , and can open up at any time .
And for this I Applaud the guy , and hope he can show for himself what he can do. And if that helps some poor kid , going through that stuff right now , or another coming through , especially a young indigenous boy/girl , well how good is that . ?

Spot on mate, I suffer from mental health issues related to experiences growing up. I know how hard it is to talk about an I really admire Roberts honesty and openness. He has his relapses but is always willing to work on his issues and seeks out assistance. At times I wish I could be as strong as he is.

Me too mate . I have huge aggression issues, because of it , which made me good for footy and fighting , but not so much in the real world . I know blokes who have killed themselves , others who can’t stop sleeping around , because how low they really think of themselves , others who are celibate because of how horrid they are to deal with in relationships .
Mental health issues everywhere . Pretty disgusting when some imbecile on here , makes a mockery of the bloke just to win an argument .
No respect for people like that to be honest . If I could van him I would .which is surprising because I’m never an advocate for that .


I know you’re talking about me but I never made a mockery of him and I hold you to account for saying that. I said he needs to prove himself as a footballer due to his history and I stand by that. As a bloke I never doubted him and it’s children like you that perpetuate these issues, spreading innuendo and making false claims. Grow up.

Seriously dude , you have issues .


What, because I called you out? Read my posts you phoney. Have I ever doubted Jimmy’s integrity as a man? No. You’ve got the issues Pygmy.

Do you have to belittle someone every single time you post? He didn't say anything like that to you until you started. You've been very rude and blunt to every single person you've talked to on here and then think people are annoyed because you're winning the online 'argument'. You clearly have nothing better to do than be negative and disagree with absolutely everything on here and I can sense your inferiority complex through my phone screen

 

[JC99]

Anyone know if Laurie is a goal kicker?

Asking for a friend.. 😀

ADs strike rate at the end of the year was pretty good . His percentage was brought down by his abysmal start . I’d say as the year went on he became more comfortable , and I’d also argue that his strike Nd purchase of the ball are pretty awesome.

If memory recalls properly Doueihi had a leg muscle injury which hampered his kicking in 2020?

Yea that as well apparently . Do people remember momo missing from in front to lose us a game ? Or did I imagine that ?

Yes recall against the Bulldogs.
We should never had been in that position to kick a goal to Tie the game on fulltime, also leading at the break, Bulldogs were bottom of ladder again attitude thought we only had to show up to Win.

see match stats below Momo he also scored 2 tries....

3
TRIES
3
Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs tries achieved by:
Josh Jackson 42'
Jeremy Marshall-King 47'
Nick Meaney 53'
Wests Tigers tries achieved by:
Paul Momirovski 7'
Paul Momirovski 72'
Luke Garner 78'

3/3
CONVERSIONS
1/3
Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs conversions achieved by:
Nick Meaney 43'
Nick Meaney 48'
Nick Meaney 55'
Wests Tigers conversions achieved by:
Paul Momirovski 8'

PENALTY GOALS
1/2
Wests Tigers penaltyGoals achieved by:
Paul Momirovski 30'

Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs sinBin achieved by:
Chris Smith 77'
Wests Tigers sinbin achieved by:
Luke Garner 23'
HALF TIME WESTS TIGERS 8 - 0 BULLDOGS

I’m merely using this as an example that he isn’t the goal kicking messiah , and in fact his on field skill is probably a more apt way of assessing his talent . That’s all.

Well you should not state for losing the game, his overall stats were quite good and he did perform, just making my point but all good.

Agree Goal kicking in recent seasons have cost us playing finals might again this year unless % improve.

Madge not keen on moving him on and i tend to agree if other don't perform he will be playing 1st grade and he needs to realize that this club gives him more opportunity with those who are in front of him.


Mate, you see the irony here. All those that want Momo gone, based on a single newspaper article and a forum contributor who thought he looked upset at training, are condoning exactly the same behaviour from Diane Laurie, our saviour. JL was public enemy No 1 last season, JTJ has been punted by 5 different clubs, TT hasn’t shown anything near what his raps indicate and Momo is a try scorer and goal kicker with experience at 2 premiership winning clubs. Do these people even watch football?

LOL , are you serious ? The issue with the tigers is a lack of dynamic players , who can break a deadlock , and change the outcome of a game . Or simply finish off a half break from a distance . This is what people are talking about .
We have always had good attacking structures throughout our history , but recently , it’s this quality which we have lacked .
Joey , has been told to have a long hard look in the mirror of which he has responded . Jimmy has had a horrendous childhood full of sexual abuse , and abandonment. And only recently in the last year , has he started to open up , and try and find something cathartic, in a really messed up story . Talau who is the next drop , is a sought after impact centre , who could be anything .
And then There’s Kei . One of the most talked about juniors I’ve seen on here , who many good judges think is going to be a star.

Yes we arch footy . But we clearly watch a lot closer than you do. Quoting tries and goal kicks .


So what you’re trying to tell me is your two first choice centres have been told to have a long hard look at themselves or find something cathartic, but a bloke who scores 14 tries in 19 games doesn’t rate.

Lol you can spin it anyway you want , but if I’m a coach , and I’ve got a guy in my team who I can throw a cutout ball to, and know he can do an in and away and score an 80m try , I want hat bloke in my team . Or if I can put a bloke in my team who one on one , is near on unstoppable, yea I want that guy in my team.
What do you think it’s a coincidence that every single winger to play outside Joey has high teens in the try scoring department ?
Just by him being there , created space for players if you know how to use him.
Momo does not do that . With momo you slide onto to him, hold your ground , and wait for the block play to unveil itself , as you can trust your probably going to make that tackle .
This is my knowledge of rugby league .
That the guy who sets up the try , a lot of the time isn’t even the guy who touches ball . With guys like BJ and JTJ you have to respect and acknowledge them , because they can absolutely destroy you , if you don’t . Who’s ever said that about MOMO?


I’ll give you that about JL, but not JTJ. That they don’t say that about Momo is because he’s only 19 games in. Please, 5 clubs don’t ask you to leave if you’re any good.

I don’t care what you give me . You’ve got no idea . It’s obvious with every word you say . If you would you’d understand how out of touch you are , with the reasons why JTJ can be anything , and the reasons why he sabotaged himself previously . If your not 16 year old school kid , I feel sorry for you .


Haha haha. So magically, JTJ at 26 is going to transform into the messiah because you read something somewhere in a comic book. Give yourself an uppercut.

What ? Wow ! You absolutely suck at this human game . Maybe you should try something else . The guy has had some serious stuff to get through , and you sound like you have no idea , how a guy with those kind of issues can be toxic to himself and others . It’s with admitting the issue, seeking help , and finding people around you who care that you can truely try to heal , and become most importantly a good person you can be proud of . .
This is why I support him , as , he sounds like the kind of guy I want to back . And he’s a talented footballer who leaves plodders like momo in his dust .

Agreed mate, I am always happy to support someone who owns their mistakes. He has always seemed to this and doesn't hide from his issues or mistakes. When he needs help he usually puts his hand up and seeks that support.

I just think it shows maturity , to even admit this stuff . Let alone go on a podcast and lay it out for all to see . I know a lot of blokes , who have experiences like his , and , many , just can’t help themselves from themselves . It’s the ones who are open about it , and try to have conversations , that seem to be the most ok. But even then , the pit of despair is only around the corner , and can open up at any time .
And for this I Applaud the guy , and hope he can show for himself what he can do. And if that helps some poor kid , going through that stuff right now , or another coming through , especially a young indigenous boy/girl , well how good is that . ?

Spot on mate, I suffer from mental health issues related to experiences growing up. I know how hard it is to talk about an I really admire Roberts honesty and openness. He has his relapses but is always willing to work on his issues and seeks out assistance. At times I wish I could be as strong as he is.

Me too mate . I have huge aggression issues, because of it , which made me good for footy and fighting , but not so much in the real world . I know blokes who have killed themselves , others who can’t stop sleeping around , because how low they really think of themselves , others who are celibate because of how horrid they are to deal with in relationships .
Mental health issues everywhere . Pretty disgusting when some imbecile on here , makes a mockery of the bloke just to win an argument .
No respect for people like that to be honest . If I could van him I would .which is surprising because I’m never an advocate for that .


I know you’re talking about me but I never made a mockery of him and I hold you to account for saying that. I said he needs to prove himself as a footballer due to his history and I stand by that. As a bloke I never doubted him and it’s children like you that perpetuate these issues, spreading innuendo and making false claims. Grow up.

Seriously dude , you have issues .


What, because I called you out? Read my posts you phoney. Have I ever doubted Jimmy’s integrity as a man? No. You’ve got the issues Pygmy.

So you didn’t say I was making up superhero stories , when I mentioned his issues ? You’re the joke mate . Stick to one , opinion , you chop and change , and now because you look like an absolute pig of a human you’re trying to walk it back .Can we get rid of this guy ? Seriously ?

Don't bother with him. He's on here looking for arguments

 

[Big Brain]

Anyone know if Laurie is a goal kicker?

Asking for a friend.. 😀

ADs strike rate at the end of the year was pretty good . His percentage was brought down by his abysmal start . I’d say as the year went on he became more comfortable , and I’d also argue that his strike Nd purchase of the ball are pretty awesome.

If memory recalls properly Doueihi had a leg muscle injury which hampered his kicking in 2020?

Yea that as well apparently . Do people remember momo missing from in front to lose us a game ? Or did I imagine that ?

Yes recall against the Bulldogs.
We should never had been in that position to kick a goal to Tie the game on fulltime, also leading at the break, Bulldogs were bottom of ladder again attitude thought we only had to show up to Win.

see match stats below Momo he also scored 2 tries....

3
TRIES
3
Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs tries achieved by:
Josh Jackson 42'
Jeremy Marshall-King 47'
Nick Meaney 53'
Wests Tigers tries achieved by:
Paul Momirovski 7'
Paul Momirovski 72'
Luke Garner 78'

3/3
CONVERSIONS
1/3
Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs conversions achieved by:
Nick Meaney 43'
Nick Meaney 48'
Nick Meaney 55'
Wests Tigers conversions achieved by:
Paul Momirovski 8'

PENALTY GOALS
1/2
Wests Tigers penaltyGoals achieved by:
Paul Momirovski 30'

Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs sinBin achieved by:
Chris Smith 77'
Wests Tigers sinbin achieved by:
Luke Garner 23'
HALF TIME WESTS TIGERS 8 - 0 BULLDOGS

I’m merely using this as an example that he isn’t the goal kicking messiah , and in fact his on field skill is probably a more apt way of assessing his talent . That’s all.

Well you should not state for losing the game, his overall stats were quite good and he did perform, just making my point but all good.

Agree Goal kicking in recent seasons have cost us playing finals might again this year unless % improve.

Madge not keen on moving him on and i tend to agree if other don't perform he will be playing 1st grade and he needs to realize that this club gives him more opportunity with those who are in front of him.


Mate, you see the irony here. All those that want Momo gone, based on a single newspaper article and a forum contributor who thought he looked upset at training, are condoning exactly the same behaviour from Diane Laurie, our saviour. JL was public enemy No 1 last season, JTJ has been punted by 5 different clubs, TT hasn’t shown anything near what his raps indicate and Momo is a try scorer and goal kicker with experience at 2 premiership winning clubs. Do these people even watch football?

LOL , are you serious ? The issue with the tigers is a lack of dynamic players , who can break a deadlock , and change the outcome of a game . Or simply finish off a half break from a distance . This is what people are talking about .
We have always had good attacking structures throughout our history , but recently , it’s this quality which we have lacked .
Joey , has been told to have a long hard look in the mirror of which he has responded . Jimmy has had a horrendous childhood full of sexual abuse , and abandonment. And only recently in the last year , has he started to open up , and try and find something cathartic, in a really messed up story . Talau who is the next drop , is a sought after impact centre , who could be anything .
And then There’s Kei . One of the most talked about juniors I’ve seen on here , who many good judges think is going to be a star.

Yes we arch footy . But we clearly watch a lot closer than you do. Quoting tries and goal kicks .


So what you’re trying to tell me is your two first choice centres have been told to have a long hard look at themselves or find something cathartic, but a bloke who scores 14 tries in 19 games doesn’t rate.

Lol you can spin it anyway you want , but if I’m a coach , and I’ve got a guy in my team who I can throw a cutout ball to, and know he can do an in and away and score an 80m try , I want hat bloke in my team . Or if I can put a bloke in my team who one on one , is near on unstoppable, yea I want that guy in my team.
What do you think it’s a coincidence that every single winger to play outside Joey has high teens in the try scoring department ?
Just by him being there , created space for players if you know how to use him.
Momo does not do that . With momo you slide onto to him, hold your ground , and wait for the block play to unveil itself , as you can trust your probably going to make that tackle .
This is my knowledge of rugby league .
That the guy who sets up the try , a lot of the time isn’t even the guy who touches ball . With guys like BJ and JTJ you have to respect and acknowledge them , because they can absolutely destroy you , if you don’t . Who’s ever said that about MOMO?


I’ll give you that about JL, but not JTJ. That they don’t say that about Momo is because he’s only 19 games in. Please, 5 clubs don’t ask you to leave if you’re any good.

I don’t care what you give me . You’ve got no idea . It’s obvious with every word you say . If you would you’d understand how out of touch you are , with the reasons why JTJ can be anything , and the reasons why he sabotaged himself previously . If your not 16 year old school kid , I feel sorry for you .


Haha haha. So magically, JTJ at 26 is going to transform into the messiah because you read something somewhere in a comic book. Give yourself an uppercut.

What ? Wow ! You absolutely suck at this human game . Maybe you should try something else . The guy has had some serious stuff to get through , and you sound like you have no idea , how a guy with those kind of issues can be toxic to himself and others . It’s with admitting the issue, seeking help , and finding people around you who care that you can truely try to heal , and become most importantly a good person you can be proud of . .
This is why I support him , as , he sounds like the kind of guy I want to back . And he’s a talented footballer who leaves plodders like momo in his dust .

Agreed mate, I am always happy to support someone who owns their mistakes. He has always seemed to this and doesn't hide from his issues or mistakes. When he needs help he usually puts his hand up and seeks that support.

I just think it shows maturity , to even admit this stuff . Let alone go on a podcast and lay it out for all to see . I know a lot of blokes , who have experiences like his , and , many , just can’t help themselves from themselves . It’s the ones who are open about it , and try to have conversations , that seem to be the most ok. But even then , the pit of despair is only around the corner , and can open up at any time .
And for this I Applaud the guy , and hope he can show for himself what he can do. And if that helps some poor kid , going through that stuff right now , or another coming through , especially a young indigenous boy/girl , well how good is that . ?

Spot on mate, I suffer from mental health issues related to experiences growing up. I know how hard it is to talk about an I really admire Roberts honesty and openness. He has his relapses but is always willing to work on his issues and seeks out assistance. At times I wish I could be as strong as he is.

Me too mate . I have huge aggression issues, because of it , which made me good for footy and fighting , but not so much in the real world . I know blokes who have killed themselves , others who can’t stop sleeping around , because how low they really think of themselves , others who are celibate because of how horrid they are to deal with in relationships .
Mental health issues everywhere . Pretty disgusting when some imbecile on here , makes a mockery of the bloke just to win an argument .
No respect for people like that to be honest . If I could van him I would .which is surprising because I’m never an advocate for that .


I know you’re talking about me but I never made a mockery of him and I hold you to account for saying that. I said he needs to prove himself as a footballer due to his history and I stand by that. As a bloke I never doubted him and it’s children like you that perpetuate these issues, spreading innuendo and making false claims. Grow up.

Seriously dude , you have issues .


What, because I called you out? Read my posts you phoney. Have I ever doubted Jimmy’s integrity as a man? No. You’ve got the issues Pygmy.

Do you have to belittle someone every single time you post? He didn't say anything like that to you until you started. You've been very rude and blunt to every single person you've talked to on here and then think people are annoyed because you're winning the online 'argument'. You clearly have nothing better to do than be negative and disagree with absolutely everything on here and I can sense your inferiority complex through my phone screen

Here we go again.

 

[Harvey]

4th string is not correct. He is a very reliable and smart footballer. Penrith would not take Leilua for the same reasons we should not be counting on him to perform commensurate with his salary. Talau and Kei ahead of him everytime.

Fair enough but Leilua and Roberts are reportedly our starting centres and i'd have Talau ahead of Momo every day of the week.

Would you play Talau at FB ahead of Moma?

Talau isn't a fullback and neither is Momo. They're both unsuitable back ups for fullback. But you've highlighted the major issue with our 2021 team. We have no suitable backup for fullback. Laurie is a suitable backup and we have enough centres.

Forget back-ups, I am not convinced that we have a fullback.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Anyone know if Laurie is a goal kicker?

Asking for a friend.. 😀

ADs strike rate at the end of the year was pretty good . His percentage was brought down by his abysmal start . I’d say as the year went on he became more comfortable , and I’d also argue that his strike Nd purchase of the ball are pretty awesome.

If memory recalls properly Doueihi had a leg muscle injury which hampered his kicking in 2020?

Yea that as well apparently . Do people remember momo missing from in front to lose us a game ? Or did I imagine that ?

Yes recall against the Bulldogs.
We should never had been in that position to kick a goal to Tie the game on fulltime, also leading at the break, Bulldogs were bottom of ladder again attitude thought we only had to show up to Win.

see match stats below Momo he also scored 2 tries....

3
TRIES
3
Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs tries achieved by:
Josh Jackson 42'
Jeremy Marshall-King 47'
Nick Meaney 53'
Wests Tigers tries achieved by:
Paul Momirovski 7'
Paul Momirovski 72'
Luke Garner 78'

3/3
CONVERSIONS
1/3
Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs conversions achieved by:
Nick Meaney 43'
Nick Meaney 48'
Nick Meaney 55'
Wests Tigers conversions achieved by:
Paul Momirovski 8'

PENALTY GOALS
1/2
Wests Tigers penaltyGoals achieved by:
Paul Momirovski 30'

Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs sinBin achieved by:
Chris Smith 77'
Wests Tigers sinbin achieved by:
Luke Garner 23'
HALF TIME WESTS TIGERS 8 - 0 BULLDOGS

I’m merely using this as an example that he isn’t the goal kicking messiah , and in fact his on field skill is probably a more apt way of assessing his talent . That’s all.

Well you should not state for losing the game, his overall stats were quite good and he did perform, just making my point but all good.

Agree Goal kicking in recent seasons have cost us playing finals might again this year unless % improve.

Madge not keen on moving him on and i tend to agree if other don't perform he will be playing 1st grade and he needs to realize that this club gives him more opportunity with those who are in front of him.


Mate, you see the irony here. All those that want Momo gone, based on a single newspaper article and a forum contributor who thought he looked upset at training, are condoning exactly the same behaviour from Diane Laurie, our saviour. JL was public enemy No 1 last season, JTJ has been punted by 5 different clubs, TT hasn’t shown anything near what his raps indicate and Momo is a try scorer and goal kicker with experience at 2 premiership winning clubs. Do these people even watch football?

LOL , are you serious ? The issue with the tigers is a lack of dynamic players , who can break a deadlock , and change the outcome of a game . Or simply finish off a half break from a distance . This is what people are talking about .
We have always had good attacking structures throughout our history , but recently , it’s this quality which we have lacked .
Joey , has been told to have a long hard look in the mirror of which he has responded . Jimmy has had a horrendous childhood full of sexual abuse , and abandonment. And only recently in the last year , has he started to open up , and try and find something cathartic, in a really messed up story . Talau who is the next drop , is a sought after impact centre , who could be anything .
And then There’s Kei . One of the most talked about juniors I’ve seen on here , who many good judges think is going to be a star.

Yes we arch footy . But we clearly watch a lot closer than you do. Quoting tries and goal kicks .


So what you’re trying to tell me is your two first choice centres have been told to have a long hard look at themselves or find something cathartic, but a bloke who scores 14 tries in 19 games doesn’t rate.

Lol you can spin it anyway you want , but if I’m a coach , and I’ve got a guy in my team who I can throw a cutout ball to, and know he can do an in and away and score an 80m try , I want hat bloke in my team . Or if I can put a bloke in my team who one on one , is near on unstoppable, yea I want that guy in my team.
What do you think it’s a coincidence that every single winger to play outside Joey has high teens in the try scoring department ?
Just by him being there , created space for players if you know how to use him.
Momo does not do that . With momo you slide onto to him, hold your ground , and wait for the block play to unveil itself , as you can trust your probably going to make that tackle .
This is my knowledge of rugby league .
That the guy who sets up the try , a lot of the time isn’t even the guy who touches ball . With guys like BJ and JTJ you have to respect and acknowledge them , because they can absolutely destroy you , if you don’t . Who’s ever said that about MOMO?


I’ll give you that about JL, but not JTJ. That they don’t say that about Momo is because he’s only 19 games in. Please, 5 clubs don’t ask you to leave if you’re any good.

I don’t care what you give me . You’ve got no idea . It’s obvious with every word you say . If you would you’d understand how out of touch you are , with the reasons why JTJ can be anything , and the reasons why he sabotaged himself previously . If your not 16 year old school kid , I feel sorry for you .


Haha haha. So magically, JTJ at 26 is going to transform into the messiah because you read something somewhere in a comic book. Give yourself an uppercut.

What ? Wow ! You absolutely suck at this human game . Maybe you should try something else . The guy has had some serious stuff to get through , and you sound like you have no idea , how a guy with those kind of issues can be toxic to himself and others . It’s with admitting the issue, seeking help , and finding people around you who care that you can truely try to heal , and become most importantly a good person you can be proud of . .
This is why I support him , as , he sounds like the kind of guy I want to back . And he’s a talented footballer who leaves plodders like momo in his dust .

Agreed mate, I am always happy to support someone who owns their mistakes. He has always seemed to this and doesn't hide from his issues or mistakes. When he needs help he usually puts his hand up and seeks that support.

I just think it shows maturity , to even admit this stuff . Let alone go on a podcast and lay it out for all to see . I know a lot of blokes , who have experiences like his , and , many , just can’t help themselves from themselves . It’s the ones who are open about it , and try to have conversations , that seem to be the most ok. But even then , the pit of despair is only around the corner , and can open up at any time .
And for this I Applaud the guy , and hope he can show for himself what he can do. And if that helps some poor kid , going through that stuff right now , or another coming through , especially a young indigenous boy/girl , well how good is that . ?

Spot on mate, I suffer from mental health issues related to experiences growing up. I know how hard it is to talk about an I really admire Roberts honesty and openness. He has his relapses but is always willing to work on his issues and seeks out assistance. At times I wish I could be as strong as he is.

Me too mate . I have huge aggression issues, because of it , which made me good for footy and fighting , but not so much in the real world . I know blokes who have killed themselves , others who can’t stop sleeping around , because how low they really think of themselves , others who are celibate because of how horrid they are to deal with in relationships .
Mental health issues everywhere . Pretty disgusting when some imbecile on here , makes a mockery of the bloke just to win an argument .
No respect for people like that to be honest . If I could van him I would .which is surprising because I’m never an advocate for that .


I know you’re talking about me but I never made a mockery of him and I hold you to account for saying that. I said he needs to prove himself as a footballer due to his history and I stand by that. As a bloke I never doubted him and it’s children like you that perpetuate these issues, spreading innuendo and making false claims. Grow up.

Seriously dude , you have issues .


What, because I called you out? Read my posts you phoney. Have I ever doubted Jimmy’s integrity as a man? No. You’ve got the issues Pygmy.

So you didn’t say I was making up superhero stories , when I mentioned his issues ? You’re the joke mate . Stick to one , opinion , you chop and change , and now because you look like an absolute pig of a human you’re trying to walk it back .Can we get rid of this guy ? Seriously ?

Don't bother with him. He's on here looking for arguments

Yea I know , I tried to let him know yesterday . I don’t see why your do that though . For me , I enjoy the intelligent conversation about this team we all love . He clearly likes the team , so he’s just hurting himself , because soon. No one will reply to him.

 

[Harvey]

**Wests Tigers turn down release request from centre Paul Momirovski**

EXCLUSIVE – The Wests Tigers and Paul Momirovski are locked in a dispute that threatens to escalate after the centre had two official release requests turned down by the club.
Foxsports.com.au can reveal that the Tigers are refusing to let Momirovski leave despite informing him he would not be a first-choice centre at Concord.
The 24-year-old, who has 14 tries in 19 NRL games, has been training at five-eighth during the pre-season and has held three conversations with head coach Michael Maguire about being granted permission to leave.
Rival clubs are monitoring the situation closely, with Canterbury and Penrith keen on his services.
The Tigers, however, are digging their heels in, arguing that a roster with strong depth across the backline can only be beneficial for the club.
Momirovski did not play for the Tigers in 2020 as he headed to Melbourne as part of a loan deal involving Harry Grant.
He was encouraged to make the move to the Storm as his temporary departure would allow the Tigers to secure an NRL-standard hooker.
A hand injury curtailed his run in the Storm’s right centre spot but despite mutual interest in extending his stay at Melbourne, he went back to Concord to honour the last year of his contract.
Upon his return, the Tigers had signed James Roberts to partner Joey Leilua in the centres.
The Tigers also made a serious play for Josh Mansour before he signed for Souths a fortnight ago.
Momirovski’s release request is the third such demand from a different Tigers players in the last 18 months after Ryan Matterson and Josh Aloiai both asked to leave.
The difference for both those players is that they were walk-up starters for the Tigers being lured away by bigger deals.
Momirovski, meanwhile, is not guaranteed regular football in 2021 and wants to play every week in his preferred position.
Matterson joined Parramatta after skipping training and being put on a period of leave while Aloiai moved to Manly after frustrations in negotiations with the Tigers.


Interesting.... Was at training today and Mommers was the only player not up and about. In fact he looked miserable.

The remainder of the squad all came and had a chat, introducing themselves to my kids, which leaves a massive impression on them.

Kicking stones expertly executed

Might be one of those "mental illnesses" players get when they are looking to break a contract.

 

[Big Brain]

Anyone know if Laurie is a goal kicker?

Asking for a friend.. 😀

ADs strike rate at the end of the year was pretty good . His percentage was brought down by his abysmal start . I’d say as the year went on he became more comfortable , and I’d also argue that his strike Nd purchase of the ball are pretty awesome.

If memory recalls properly Doueihi had a leg muscle injury which hampered his kicking in 2020?

Yea that as well apparently . Do people remember momo missing from in front to lose us a game ? Or did I imagine that ?

Yes recall against the Bulldogs.
We should never had been in that position to kick a goal to Tie the game on fulltime, also leading at the break, Bulldogs were bottom of ladder again attitude thought we only had to show up to Win.

see match stats below Momo he also scored 2 tries....

3
TRIES
3
Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs tries achieved by:
Josh Jackson 42'
Jeremy Marshall-King 47'
Nick Meaney 53'
Wests Tigers tries achieved by:
Paul Momirovski 7'
Paul Momirovski 72'
Luke Garner 78'

3/3
CONVERSIONS
1/3
Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs conversions achieved by:
Nick Meaney 43'
Nick Meaney 48'
Nick Meaney 55'
Wests Tigers conversions achieved by:
Paul Momirovski 8'

PENALTY GOALS
1/2
Wests Tigers penaltyGoals achieved by:
Paul Momirovski 30'

Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs sinBin achieved by:
Chris Smith 77'
Wests Tigers sinbin achieved by:
Luke Garner 23'
HALF TIME WESTS TIGERS 8 - 0 BULLDOGS

I’m merely using this as an example that he isn’t the goal kicking messiah , and in fact his on field skill is probably a more apt way of assessing his talent . That’s all.

Well you should not state for losing the game, his overall stats were quite good and he did perform, just making my point but all good.

Agree Goal kicking in recent seasons have cost us playing finals might again this year unless % improve.

Madge not keen on moving him on and i tend to agree if other don't perform he will be playing 1st grade and he needs to realize that this club gives him more opportunity with those who are in front of him.


Mate, you see the irony here. All those that want Momo gone, based on a single newspaper article and a forum contributor who thought he looked upset at training, are condoning exactly the same behaviour from Diane Laurie, our saviour. JL was public enemy No 1 last season, JTJ has been punted by 5 different clubs, TT hasn’t shown anything near what his raps indicate and Momo is a try scorer and goal kicker with experience at 2 premiership winning clubs. Do these people even watch football?

LOL , are you serious ? The issue with the tigers is a lack of dynamic players , who can break a deadlock , and change the outcome of a game . Or simply finish off a half break from a distance . This is what people are talking about .
We have always had good attacking structures throughout our history , but recently , it’s this quality which we have lacked .
Joey , has been told to have a long hard look in the mirror of which he has responded . Jimmy has had a horrendous childhood full of sexual abuse , and abandonment. And only recently in the last year , has he started to open up , and try and find something cathartic, in a really messed up story . Talau who is the next drop , is a sought after impact centre , who could be anything .
And then There’s Kei . One of the most talked about juniors I’ve seen on here , who many good judges think is going to be a star.

Yes we arch footy . But we clearly watch a lot closer than you do. Quoting tries and goal kicks .


So what you’re trying to tell me is your two first choice centres have been told to have a long hard look at themselves or find something cathartic, but a bloke who scores 14 tries in 19 games doesn’t rate.

Lol you can spin it anyway you want , but if I’m a coach , and I’ve got a guy in my team who I can throw a cutout ball to, and know he can do an in and away and score an 80m try , I want hat bloke in my team . Or if I can put a bloke in my team who one on one , is near on unstoppable, yea I want that guy in my team.
What do you think it’s a coincidence that every single winger to play outside Joey has high teens in the try scoring department ?
Just by him being there , created space for players if you know how to use him.
Momo does not do that . With momo you slide onto to him, hold your ground , and wait for the block play to unveil itself , as you can trust your probably going to make that tackle .
This is my knowledge of rugby league .
That the guy who sets up the try , a lot of the time isn’t even the guy who touches ball . With guys like BJ and JTJ you have to respect and acknowledge them , because they can absolutely destroy you , if you don’t . Who’s ever said that about MOMO?


I’ll give you that about JL, but not JTJ. That they don’t say that about Momo is because he’s only 19 games in. Please, 5 clubs don’t ask you to leave if you’re any good.

I don’t care what you give me . You’ve got no idea . It’s obvious with every word you say . If you would you’d understand how out of touch you are , with the reasons why JTJ can be anything , and the reasons why he sabotaged himself previously . If your not 16 year old school kid , I feel sorry for you .


Haha haha. So magically, JTJ at 26 is going to transform into the messiah because you read something somewhere in a comic book. Give yourself an uppercut.

What ? Wow ! You absolutely suck at this human game . Maybe you should try something else . The guy has had some serious stuff to get through , and you sound like you have no idea , how a guy with those kind of issues can be toxic to himself and others . It’s with admitting the issue, seeking help , and finding people around you who care that you can truely try to heal , and become most importantly a good person you can be proud of . .
This is why I support him , as , he sounds like the kind of guy I want to back . And he’s a talented footballer who leaves plodders like momo in his dust .

Agreed mate, I am always happy to support someone who owns their mistakes. He has always seemed to this and doesn't hide from his issues or mistakes. When he needs help he usually puts his hand up and seeks that support.

I just think it shows maturity , to even admit this stuff . Let alone go on a podcast and lay it out for all to see . I know a lot of blokes , who have experiences like his , and , many , just can’t help themselves from themselves . It’s the ones who are open about it , and try to have conversations , that seem to be the most ok. But even then , the pit of despair is only around the corner , and can open up at any time .
And for this I Applaud the guy , and hope he can show for himself what he can do. And if that helps some poor kid , going through that stuff right now , or another coming through , especially a young indigenous boy/girl , well how good is that . ?

Spot on mate, I suffer from mental health issues related to experiences growing up. I know how hard it is to talk about an I really admire Roberts honesty and openness. He has his relapses but is always willing to work on his issues and seeks out assistance. At times I wish I could be as strong as he is.

Me too mate . I have huge aggression issues, because of it , which made me good for footy and fighting , but not so much in the real world . I know blokes who have killed themselves , others who can’t stop sleeping around , because how low they really think of themselves , others who are celibate because of how horrid they are to deal with in relationships .
Mental health issues everywhere . Pretty disgusting when some imbecile on here , makes a mockery of the bloke just to win an argument .
No respect for people like that to be honest . If I could van him I would .which is surprising because I’m never an advocate for that .


I know you’re talking about me but I never made a mockery of him and I hold you to account for saying that. I said he needs to prove himself as a footballer due to his history and I stand by that. As a bloke I never doubted him and it’s children like you that perpetuate these issues, spreading innuendo and making false claims. Grow up.

Seriously dude , you have issues .


What, because I called you out? Read my posts you phoney. Have I ever doubted Jimmy’s integrity as a man? No. You’ve got the issues Pygmy.

So you didn’t say I was making up superhero stories , when I mentioned his issues ? You’re the joke mate . Stick to one , opinion , you chop and change , and now because you look like an absolute pig of a human you’re trying to walk it back .Can we get rid of this guy ? Seriously ?

Don't bother with him. He's on here looking for arguments

Yea I know , I tried to let him know yesterday . I don’t see why your do that though . For me , I enjoy the intelligent conversation about this team we all love . He clearly likes the team , so he’s just hurting himself , because soon. No one will reply to him.

Mate, I’m sorry. We ’re half agreeing on everything and I don’t Even know where it all went wrong. I know I need to pull my head in. I know. You’re in charge of pulling me up. I’m not looking for an argument, just offering a robust discussion. Keep me honest. Peace brother and all that, but seriously, I’m a fan and want the best for the Tigers. Keep me honest.

 

[Harvey]

**Wests Tigers turn down release request from centre Paul Momirovski**

EXCLUSIVE – The Wests Tigers and Paul Momirovski are locked in a dispute that threatens to escalate after the centre had two official release requests turned down by the club.
Foxsports.com.au can reveal that the Tigers are refusing to let Momirovski leave despite informing him he would not be a first-choice centre at Concord.
The 24-year-old, who has 14 tries in 19 NRL games, has been training at five-eighth during the pre-season and has held three conversations with head coach Michael Maguire about being granted permission to leave.
Rival clubs are monitoring the situation closely, with Canterbury and Penrith keen on his services.
The Tigers, however, are digging their heels in, arguing that a roster with strong depth across the backline can only be beneficial for the club.
Momirovski did not play for the Tigers in 2020 as he headed to Melbourne as part of a loan deal involving Harry Grant.
He was encouraged to make the move to the Storm as his temporary departure would allow the Tigers to secure an NRL-standard hooker.
A hand injury curtailed his run in the Storm’s right centre spot but despite mutual interest in extending his stay at Melbourne, he went back to Concord to honour the last year of his contract.
Upon his return, the Tigers had signed James Roberts to partner Joey Leilua in the centres.
The Tigers also made a serious play for Josh Mansour before he signed for Souths a fortnight ago.
Momirovski’s release request is the third such demand from a different Tigers players in the last 18 months after Ryan Matterson and Josh Aloiai both asked to leave.
The difference for both those players is that they were walk-up starters for the Tigers being lured away by bigger deals.
Momirovski, meanwhile, is not guaranteed regular football in 2021 and wants to play every week in his preferred position.
Matterson joined Parramatta after skipping training and being put on a period of leave while Aloiai moved to Manly after frustrations in negotiations with the Tigers.


Interesting.... Was at training today and Mommers was the only player not up and about. In fact he looked miserable.

The remainder of the squad all came and had a chat, introducing themselves to my kids, which leaves a massive impression on them.

Kicking stones expertly executed


Its what happens when the club continually gives in to sooks. Players know they just have to whinge to the media, not put in at training and mope around until we hear the situation is untenable. he has seen the club fold to others so why not give it a go.

I believe after the Matterson situation we have grown as a club.. People think we just released Josh A to Manly for nothing but in fact we got a SOO quality player in his prime and also got money from Manly. When you release a player you don't have to have another player in return from that same club and I have full faith in the club in this Momo situation as well.

We did not get an origin player for Aloiai. The Broncos were looking to move a player on and we signed him. There is absolutely no correlation between Joe O coming and Aloiai going. We could have signed Joe even if we forced Josh to stay. All we got was an additional roster position (which we still have) that allows us to sign or upgrade someone and some cash from Manly.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Anyone know if Laurie is a goal kicker?

Asking for a friend.. 😀

ADs strike rate at the end of the year was pretty good . His percentage was brought down by his abysmal start . I’d say as the year went on he became more comfortable , and I’d also argue that his strike Nd purchase of the ball are pretty awesome.

If memory recalls properly Doueihi had a leg muscle injury which hampered his kicking in 2020?

Yea that as well apparently . Do people remember momo missing from in front to lose us a game ? Or did I imagine that ?

Yes recall against the Bulldogs.
We should never had been in that position to kick a goal to Tie the game on fulltime, also leading at the break, Bulldogs were bottom of ladder again attitude thought we only had to show up to Win.

see match stats below Momo he also scored 2 tries....

3
TRIES
3
Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs tries achieved by:
Josh Jackson 42'
Jeremy Marshall-King 47'
Nick Meaney 53'
Wests Tigers tries achieved by:
Paul Momirovski 7'
Paul Momirovski 72'
Luke Garner 78'

3/3
CONVERSIONS
1/3
Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs conversions achieved by:
Nick Meaney 43'
Nick Meaney 48'
Nick Meaney 55'
Wests Tigers conversions achieved by:
Paul Momirovski 8'

PENALTY GOALS
1/2
Wests Tigers penaltyGoals achieved by:
Paul Momirovski 30'

Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs sinBin achieved by:
Chris Smith 77'
Wests Tigers sinbin achieved by:
Luke Garner 23'
HALF TIME WESTS TIGERS 8 - 0 BULLDOGS

I’m merely using this as an example that he isn’t the goal kicking messiah , and in fact his on field skill is probably a more apt way of assessing his talent . That’s all.

Well you should not state for losing the game, his overall stats were quite good and he did perform, just making my point but all good.

Agree Goal kicking in recent seasons have cost us playing finals might again this year unless % improve.

Madge not keen on moving him on and i tend to agree if other don't perform he will be playing 1st grade and he needs to realize that this club gives him more opportunity with those who are in front of him.


Mate, you see the irony here. All those that want Momo gone, based on a single newspaper article and a forum contributor who thought he looked upset at training, are condoning exactly the same behaviour from Diane Laurie, our saviour. JL was public enemy No 1 last season, JTJ has been punted by 5 different clubs, TT hasn’t shown anything near what his raps indicate and Momo is a try scorer and goal kicker with experience at 2 premiership winning clubs. Do these people even watch football?

LOL , are you serious ? The issue with the tigers is a lack of dynamic players , who can break a deadlock , and change the outcome of a game . Or simply finish off a half break from a distance . This is what people are talking about .
We have always had good attacking structures throughout our history , but recently , it’s this quality which we have lacked .
Joey , has been told to have a long hard look in the mirror of which he has responded . Jimmy has had a horrendous childhood full of sexual abuse , and abandonment. And only recently in the last year , has he started to open up , and try and find something cathartic, in a really messed up story . Talau who is the next drop , is a sought after impact centre , who could be anything .
And then There’s Kei . One of the most talked about juniors I’ve seen on here , who many good judges think is going to be a star.

Yes we arch footy . But we clearly watch a lot closer than you do. Quoting tries and goal kicks .


So what you’re trying to tell me is your two first choice centres have been told to have a long hard look at themselves or find something cathartic, but a bloke who scores 14 tries in 19 games doesn’t rate.

Lol you can spin it anyway you want , but if I’m a coach , and I’ve got a guy in my team who I can throw a cutout ball to, and know he can do an in and away and score an 80m try , I want hat bloke in my team . Or if I can put a bloke in my team who one on one , is near on unstoppable, yea I want that guy in my team.
What do you think it’s a coincidence that every single winger to play outside Joey has high teens in the try scoring department ?
Just by him being there , created space for players if you know how to use him.
Momo does not do that . With momo you slide onto to him, hold your ground , and wait for the block play to unveil itself , as you can trust your probably going to make that tackle .
This is my knowledge of rugby league .
That the guy who sets up the try , a lot of the time isn’t even the guy who touches ball . With guys like BJ and JTJ you have to respect and acknowledge them , because they can absolutely destroy you , if you don’t . Who’s ever said that about MOMO?


I’ll give you that about JL, but not JTJ. That they don’t say that about Momo is because he’s only 19 games in. Please, 5 clubs don’t ask you to leave if you’re any good.

I don’t care what you give me . You’ve got no idea . It’s obvious with every word you say . If you would you’d understand how out of touch you are , with the reasons why JTJ can be anything , and the reasons why he sabotaged himself previously . If your not 16 year old school kid , I feel sorry for you .


Haha haha. So magically, JTJ at 26 is going to transform into the messiah because you read something somewhere in a comic book. Give yourself an uppercut.

What ? Wow ! You absolutely suck at this human game . Maybe you should try something else . The guy has had some serious stuff to get through , and you sound like you have no idea , how a guy with those kind of issues can be toxic to himself and others . It’s with admitting the issue, seeking help , and finding people around you who care that you can truely try to heal , and become most importantly a good person you can be proud of . .
This is why I support him , as , he sounds like the kind of guy I want to back . And he’s a talented footballer who leaves plodders like momo in his dust .

Agreed mate, I am always happy to support someone who owns their mistakes. He has always seemed to this and doesn't hide from his issues or mistakes. When he needs help he usually puts his hand up and seeks that support.

I just think it shows maturity , to even admit this stuff . Let alone go on a podcast and lay it out for all to see . I know a lot of blokes , who have experiences like his , and , many , just can’t help themselves from themselves . It’s the ones who are open about it , and try to have conversations , that seem to be the most ok. But even then , the pit of despair is only around the corner , and can open up at any time .
And for this I Applaud the guy , and hope he can show for himself what he can do. And if that helps some poor kid , going through that stuff right now , or another coming through , especially a young indigenous boy/girl , well how good is that . ?

Spot on mate, I suffer from mental health issues related to experiences growing up. I know how hard it is to talk about an I really admire Roberts honesty and openness. He has his relapses but is always willing to work on his issues and seeks out assistance. At times I wish I could be as strong as he is.

Me too mate . I have huge aggression issues, because of it , which made me good for footy and fighting , but not so much in the real world . I know blokes who have killed themselves , others who can’t stop sleeping around , because how low they really think of themselves , others who are celibate because of how horrid they are to deal with in relationships .
Mental health issues everywhere . Pretty disgusting when some imbecile on here , makes a mockery of the bloke just to win an argument .
No respect for people like that to be honest . If I could van him I would .which is surprising because I’m never an advocate for that .


I know you’re talking about me but I never made a mockery of him and I hold you to account for saying that. I said he needs to prove himself as a footballer due to his history and I stand by that. As a bloke I never doubted him and it’s children like you that perpetuate these issues, spreading innuendo and making false claims. Grow up.

Seriously dude , you have issues .


What, because I called you out? Read my posts you phoney. Have I ever doubted Jimmy’s integrity as a man? No. You’ve got the issues Pygmy.

So you didn’t say I was making up superhero stories , when I mentioned his issues ? You’re the joke mate . Stick to one , opinion , you chop and change , and now because you look like an absolute pig of a human you’re trying to walk it back .Can we get rid of this guy ? Seriously ?

Don't bother with him. He's on here looking for arguments

Yea I know , I tried to let him know yesterday . I don’t see why your do that though . For me , I enjoy the intelligent conversation about this team we all love . He clearly likes the team , so he’s just hurting himself , because soon. No one will reply to him.


Mate, I’m sorry. We ’re half agreeing on everything and I don’t Even know where it all went wrong. I know I need to pull my head in. I know. You’re in charge of pulling me up. I’m not looking for an argument, just offering a robust discussion. Keep me honest. Peace brother and all that, but seriously, I’m a fan and want the best for the Tigers. Keep me honest.

I’m not in charge of anything mate . I’m just originally trying to help you out , with some observations , and now a little bit offended , that you put winning a arguement over a fringe first grader , over saying some stupid stuff . But you need to put the gun down mate . It’s not world war 3 if someone doesn’t agree with you.

 

[cochise]

**Wests Tigers turn down release request from centre Paul Momirovski**

EXCLUSIVE – The Wests Tigers and Paul Momirovski are locked in a dispute that threatens to escalate after the centre had two official release requests turned down by the club.
Foxsports.com.au can reveal that the Tigers are refusing to let Momirovski leave despite informing him he would not be a first-choice centre at Concord.
The 24-year-old, who has 14 tries in 19 NRL games, has been training at five-eighth during the pre-season and has held three conversations with head coach Michael Maguire about being granted permission to leave.
Rival clubs are monitoring the situation closely, with Canterbury and Penrith keen on his services.
The Tigers, however, are digging their heels in, arguing that a roster with strong depth across the backline can only be beneficial for the club.
Momirovski did not play for the Tigers in 2020 as he headed to Melbourne as part of a loan deal involving Harry Grant.
He was encouraged to make the move to the Storm as his temporary departure would allow the Tigers to secure an NRL-standard hooker.
A hand injury curtailed his run in the Storm’s right centre spot but despite mutual interest in extending his stay at Melbourne, he went back to Concord to honour the last year of his contract.
Upon his return, the Tigers had signed James Roberts to partner Joey Leilua in the centres.
The Tigers also made a serious play for Josh Mansour before he signed for Souths a fortnight ago.
Momirovski’s release request is the third such demand from a different Tigers players in the last 18 months after Ryan Matterson and Josh Aloiai both asked to leave.
The difference for both those players is that they were walk-up starters for the Tigers being lured away by bigger deals.
Momirovski, meanwhile, is not guaranteed regular football in 2021 and wants to play every week in his preferred position.
Matterson joined Parramatta after skipping training and being put on a period of leave while Aloiai moved to Manly after frustrations in negotiations with the Tigers.


Interesting.... Was at training today and Mommers was the only player not up and about. In fact he looked miserable.

The remainder of the squad all came and had a chat, introducing themselves to my kids, which leaves a massive impression on them.

Kicking stones expertly executed


Its what happens when the club continually gives in to sooks. Players know they just have to whinge to the media, not put in at training and mope around until we hear the situation is untenable. he has seen the club fold to others so why not give it a go.

I believe after the Matterson situation we have grown as a club.. People think we just released Josh A to Manly for nothing but in fact we got a SOO quality player in his prime and also got money from Manly. When you release a player you don't have to have another player in return from that same club and I have full faith in the club in this Momo situation as well.

We did not get an origin player for Aloiai. The Broncos were looking to move a player on and we signed him. There is absolutely no correlation between Joe O coming and Aloiai going. We could have signed Joe even if we forced Josh to stay. All we got was an additional roster position (which we still have) that allows us to sign or upgrade someone and some cash from Manly.

The cash was substantial.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

**Wests Tigers turn down release request from centre Paul Momirovski**

EXCLUSIVE – The Wests Tigers and Paul Momirovski are locked in a dispute that threatens to escalate after the centre had two official release requests turned down by the club.
Foxsports.com.au can reveal that the Tigers are refusing to let Momirovski leave despite informing him he would not be a first-choice centre at Concord.
The 24-year-old, who has 14 tries in 19 NRL games, has been training at five-eighth during the pre-season and has held three conversations with head coach Michael Maguire about being granted permission to leave.
Rival clubs are monitoring the situation closely, with Canterbury and Penrith keen on his services.
The Tigers, however, are digging their heels in, arguing that a roster with strong depth across the backline can only be beneficial for the club.
Momirovski did not play for the Tigers in 2020 as he headed to Melbourne as part of a loan deal involving Harry Grant.
He was encouraged to make the move to the Storm as his temporary departure would allow the Tigers to secure an NRL-standard hooker.
A hand injury curtailed his run in the Storm’s right centre spot but despite mutual interest in extending his stay at Melbourne, he went back to Concord to honour the last year of his contract.
Upon his return, the Tigers had signed James Roberts to partner Joey Leilua in the centres.
The Tigers also made a serious play for Josh Mansour before he signed for Souths a fortnight ago.
Momirovski’s release request is the third such demand from a different Tigers players in the last 18 months after Ryan Matterson and Josh Aloiai both asked to leave.
The difference for both those players is that they were walk-up starters for the Tigers being lured away by bigger deals.
Momirovski, meanwhile, is not guaranteed regular football in 2021 and wants to play every week in his preferred position.
Matterson joined Parramatta after skipping training and being put on a period of leave while Aloiai moved to Manly after frustrations in negotiations with the Tigers.


Interesting.... Was at training today and Mommers was the only player not up and about. In fact he looked miserable.

The remainder of the squad all came and had a chat, introducing themselves to my kids, which leaves a massive impression on them.

Kicking stones expertly executed


Its what happens when the club continually gives in to sooks. Players know they just have to whinge to the media, not put in at training and mope around until we hear the situation is untenable. he has seen the club fold to others so why not give it a go.

I believe after the Matterson situation we have grown as a club.. People think we just released Josh A to Manly for nothing but in fact we got a SOO quality player in his prime and also got money from Manly. When you release a player you don't have to have another player in return from that same club and I have full faith in the club in this Momo situation as well.

We did not get an origin player for Aloiai. The Broncos were looking to move a player on and we signed him. There is absolutely no correlation between Joe O coming and Aloiai going. We could have signed Joe even if we forced Josh to stay. All we got was an additional roster position (which we still have) that allows us to sign or upgrade someone and some cash from Manly.

The cash was substantial.

Can you say how much ? I also think , what it would have taken to keep him , would have been gross malpractice. He is not worth 650k. And if they paid a hefty fee , say 300k , then now you’re saying he’s worth 750k a season . That’s outrageous. The manly fans are going to be ruthless if he is anything lower than elite . Because to ask for that money means you deal with that money’s problems .

 

[cochise]

**Wests Tigers turn down release request from centre Paul Momirovski**

EXCLUSIVE – The Wests Tigers and Paul Momirovski are locked in a dispute that threatens to escalate after the centre had two official release requests turned down by the club.
Foxsports.com.au can reveal that the Tigers are refusing to let Momirovski leave despite informing him he would not be a first-choice centre at Concord.
The 24-year-old, who has 14 tries in 19 NRL games, has been training at five-eighth during the pre-season and has held three conversations with head coach Michael Maguire about being granted permission to leave.
Rival clubs are monitoring the situation closely, with Canterbury and Penrith keen on his services.
The Tigers, however, are digging their heels in, arguing that a roster with strong depth across the backline can only be beneficial for the club.
Momirovski did not play for the Tigers in 2020 as he headed to Melbourne as part of a loan deal involving Harry Grant.
He was encouraged to make the move to the Storm as his temporary departure would allow the Tigers to secure an NRL-standard hooker.
A hand injury curtailed his run in the Storm’s right centre spot but despite mutual interest in extending his stay at Melbourne, he went back to Concord to honour the last year of his contract.
Upon his return, the Tigers had signed James Roberts to partner Joey Leilua in the centres.
The Tigers also made a serious play for Josh Mansour before he signed for Souths a fortnight ago.
Momirovski’s release request is the third such demand from a different Tigers players in the last 18 months after Ryan Matterson and Josh Aloiai both asked to leave.
The difference for both those players is that they were walk-up starters for the Tigers being lured away by bigger deals.
Momirovski, meanwhile, is not guaranteed regular football in 2021 and wants to play every week in his preferred position.
Matterson joined Parramatta after skipping training and being put on a period of leave while Aloiai moved to Manly after frustrations in negotiations with the Tigers.


Interesting.... Was at training today and Mommers was the only player not up and about. In fact he looked miserable.

The remainder of the squad all came and had a chat, introducing themselves to my kids, which leaves a massive impression on them.

Kicking stones expertly executed


Its what happens when the club continually gives in to sooks. Players know they just have to whinge to the media, not put in at training and mope around until we hear the situation is untenable. he has seen the club fold to others so why not give it a go.

I believe after the Matterson situation we have grown as a club.. People think we just released Josh A to Manly for nothing but in fact we got a SOO quality player in his prime and also got money from Manly. When you release a player you don't have to have another player in return from that same club and I have full faith in the club in this Momo situation as well.

We did not get an origin player for Aloiai. The Broncos were looking to move a player on and we signed him. There is absolutely no correlation between Joe O coming and Aloiai going. We could have signed Joe even if we forced Josh to stay. All we got was an additional roster position (which we still have) that allows us to sign or upgrade someone and some cash from Manly.

The cash was substantial.

Can you say how much ? I also think , what it would have taken to keep him , would have been gross malpractice. He is not worth 650k. And if they paid a hefty fee , say 300k , then now you’re saying he’s worth 750k a season . That’s outrageous. The manly fans are going to be ruthless if he is anything lower than elite . Because to ask for that money means you deal with that money’s problems .

I can't, but wish I had that sort of money going into my pocket. I can't believe what they valued him at and then to pay us compensation on top of that is just ridiculous.

 

[Guest]

Anyone know if Laurie is a goal kicker?

Asking for a friend.. 😀

ADs strike rate at the end of the year was pretty good . His percentage was brought down by his abysmal start . I’d say as the year went on he became more comfortable , and I’d also argue that his strike Nd purchase of the ball are pretty awesome.

If memory recalls properly Doueihi had a leg muscle injury which hampered his kicking in 2020?

Yea that as well apparently . Do people remember momo missing from in front to lose us a game ? Or did I imagine that ?

Yes recall against the Bulldogs.
We should never had been in that position to kick a goal to Tie the game on fulltime, also leading at the break, Bulldogs were bottom of ladder again attitude thought we only had to show up to Win.

see match stats below Momo he also scored 2 tries....

3
TRIES
3
Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs tries achieved by:
Josh Jackson 42'
Jeremy Marshall-King 47'
Nick Meaney 53'
Wests Tigers tries achieved by:
Paul Momirovski 7'
Paul Momirovski 72'
Luke Garner 78'

3/3
CONVERSIONS
1/3
Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs conversions achieved by:
Nick Meaney 43'
Nick Meaney 48'
Nick Meaney 55'
Wests Tigers conversions achieved by:
Paul Momirovski 8'

PENALTY GOALS
1/2
Wests Tigers penaltyGoals achieved by:
Paul Momirovski 30'

Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs sinBin achieved by:
Chris Smith 77'
Wests Tigers sinbin achieved by:
Luke Garner 23'
HALF TIME WESTS TIGERS 8 - 0 BULLDOGS

I’m merely using this as an example that he isn’t the goal kicking messiah , and in fact his on field skill is probably a more apt way of assessing his talent . That’s all.

Well you should not state for losing the game, his overall stats were quite good and he did perform, just making my point but all good.

Agree Goal kicking in recent seasons have cost us playing finals might again this year unless % improve.

Madge not keen on moving him on and i tend to agree if other don't perform he will be playing 1st grade and he needs to realize that this club gives him more opportunity with those who are in front of him.


Mate, you see the irony here. All those that want Momo gone, based on a single newspaper article and a forum contributor who thought he looked upset at training, are condoning exactly the same behaviour from Diane Laurie, our saviour. JL was public enemy No 1 last season, JTJ has been punted by 5 different clubs, TT hasn’t shown anything near what his raps indicate and Momo is a try scorer and goal kicker with experience at 2 premiership winning clubs. Do these people even watch football?

LOL , are you serious ? The issue with the tigers is a lack of dynamic players , who can break a deadlock , and change the outcome of a game . Or simply finish off a half break from a distance . This is what people are talking about .
We have always had good attacking structures throughout our history , but recently , it’s this quality which we have lacked .
Joey , has been told to have a long hard look in the mirror of which he has responded . Jimmy has had a horrendous childhood full of sexual abuse , and abandonment. And only recently in the last year , has he started to open up , and try and find something cathartic, in a really messed up story . Talau who is the next drop , is a sought after impact centre , who could be anything .
And then There’s Kei . One of the most talked about juniors I’ve seen on here , who many good judges think is going to be a star.

Yes we arch footy . But we clearly watch a lot closer than you do. Quoting tries and goal kicks .


So what you’re trying to tell me is your two first choice centres have been told to have a long hard look at themselves or find something cathartic, but a bloke who scores 14 tries in 19 games doesn’t rate.

Lol you can spin it anyway you want , but if I’m a coach , and I’ve got a guy in my team who I can throw a cutout ball to, and know he can do an in and away and score an 80m try , I want hat bloke in my team . Or if I can put a bloke in my team who one on one , is near on unstoppable, yea I want that guy in my team.
What do you think it’s a coincidence that every single winger to play outside Joey has high teens in the try scoring department ?
Just by him being there , created space for players if you know how to use him.
Momo does not do that . With momo you slide onto to him, hold your ground , and wait for the block play to unveil itself , as you can trust your probably going to make that tackle .
This is my knowledge of rugby league .
That the guy who sets up the try , a lot of the time isn’t even the guy who touches ball . With guys like BJ and JTJ you have to respect and acknowledge them , because they can absolutely destroy you , if you don’t . Who’s ever said that about MOMO?


I’ll give you that about JL, but not JTJ. That they don’t say that about Momo is because he’s only 19 games in. Please, 5 clubs don’t ask you to leave if you’re any good.

I don’t care what you give me . You’ve got no idea . It’s obvious with every word you say . If you would you’d understand how out of touch you are , with the reasons why JTJ can be anything , and the reasons why he sabotaged himself previously . If your not 16 year old school kid , I feel sorry for you .


Haha haha. So magically, JTJ at 26 is going to transform into the messiah because you read something somewhere in a comic book. Give yourself an uppercut.

What ? Wow ! You absolutely suck at this human game . Maybe you should try something else . The guy has had some serious stuff to get through , and you sound like you have no idea , how a guy with those kind of issues can be toxic to himself and others . It’s with admitting the issue, seeking help , and finding people around you who care that you can truely try to heal , and become most importantly a good person you can be proud of . .
This is why I support him , as , he sounds like the kind of guy I want to back . And he’s a talented footballer who leaves plodders like momo in his dust .

Agreed mate, I am always happy to support someone who owns their mistakes. He has always seemed to this and doesn't hide from his issues or mistakes. When he needs help he usually puts his hand up and seeks that support.

I just think it shows maturity , to even admit this stuff . Let alone go on a podcast and lay it out for all to see . I know a lot of blokes , who have experiences like his , and , many , just can’t help themselves from themselves . It’s the ones who are open about it , and try to have conversations , that seem to be the most ok. But even then , the pit of despair is only around the corner , and can open up at any time .
And for this I Applaud the guy , and hope he can show for himself what he can do. And if that helps some poor kid , going through that stuff right now , or another coming through , especially a young indigenous boy/girl , well how good is that . ?

Spot on mate, I suffer from mental health issues related to experiences growing up. I know how hard it is to talk about an I really admire Roberts honesty and openness. He has his relapses but is always willing to work on his issues and seeks out assistance. At times I wish I could be as strong as he is.

Me too mate . I have huge aggression issues, because of it , which made me good for footy and fighting , but not so much in the real world . I know blokes who have killed themselves , others who can’t stop sleeping around , because how low they really think of themselves , others who are celibate because of how horrid they are to deal with in relationships .
Mental health issues everywhere . Pretty disgusting when some imbecile on here , makes a mockery of the bloke just to win an argument .
No respect for people like that to be honest . If I could van him I would .which is surprising because I’m never an advocate for that .


I know you’re talking about me but I never made a mockery of him and I hold you to account for saying that. I said he needs to prove himself as a footballer due to his history and I stand by that. As a bloke I never doubted him and it’s children like you that perpetuate these issues, spreading innuendo and making false claims. Grow up.

Seriously dude , you have issues .


What, because I called you out? Read my posts you phoney. Have I ever doubted Jimmy’s integrity as a man? No. You’ve got the issues Pygmy.

And you've got no need for two accounts and personally insulting forum members.

 

[Another Pom]

When we have a fully fit squad to choose from Momo doesn't make the 17, so if he doesn't want to be here move him on and replace him with somebody who does.

I'd rather get Laurie in if it's an option and add some genuine competition in a position that we're lacking depth in.

How are Tigers going to get Laurie if Penrith want to keep him for 2021 depth? It's exactly the same situation with West Tigers. The only chance would be a straight swap between Laurie and Momo. What are the chances of that happening?

I can't see it happening myself but if the option is on the table and Momo doesn't want to hang around then get it done. We have limited options at FB, so the earlier we can get Laurie across the better for me.

 

[sleeve]

Anyone know if Laurie is a goal kicker?

Asking for a friend.. 😀

ADs strike rate at the end of the year was pretty good . His percentage was brought down by his abysmal start . I’d say as the year went on he became more comfortable , and I’d also argue that his strike Nd purchase of the ball are pretty awesome.

If memory recalls properly Doueihi had a leg muscle injury which hampered his kicking in 2020?

Yea that as well apparently . Do people remember momo missing from in front to lose us a game ? Or did I imagine that ?

Yes recall against the Bulldogs.
We should never had been in that position to kick a goal to Tie the game on fulltime, also leading at the break, Bulldogs were bottom of ladder again attitude thought we only had to show up to Win.

see match stats below Momo he also scored 2 tries....

3
TRIES
3
Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs tries achieved by:
Josh Jackson 42'
Jeremy Marshall-King 47'
Nick Meaney 53'
Wests Tigers tries achieved by:
Paul Momirovski 7'
Paul Momirovski 72'
Luke Garner 78'

3/3
CONVERSIONS
1/3
Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs conversions achieved by:
Nick Meaney 43'
Nick Meaney 48'
Nick Meaney 55'
Wests Tigers conversions achieved by:
Paul Momirovski 8'

PENALTY GOALS
1/2
Wests Tigers penaltyGoals achieved by:
Paul Momirovski 30'

Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs sinBin achieved by:
Chris Smith 77'
Wests Tigers sinbin achieved by:
Luke Garner 23'
HALF TIME WESTS TIGERS 8 - 0 BULLDOGS

I’m merely using this as an example that he isn’t the goal kicking messiah , and in fact his on field skill is probably a more apt way of assessing his talent . That’s all.

Well you should not state for losing the game, his overall stats were quite good and he did perform, just making my point but all good.

Agree Goal kicking in recent seasons have cost us playing finals might again this year unless % improve.

Madge not keen on moving him on and i tend to agree if other don't perform he will be playing 1st grade and he needs to realize that this club gives him more opportunity with those who are in front of him.


Mate, you see the irony here. All those that want Momo gone, based on a single newspaper article and a forum contributor who thought he looked upset at training, are condoning exactly the same behaviour from Diane Laurie, our saviour. JL was public enemy No 1 last season, JTJ has been punted by 5 different clubs, TT hasn’t shown anything near what his raps indicate and Momo is a try scorer and goal kicker with experience at 2 premiership winning clubs. Do these people even watch football?

LOL , are you serious ? The issue with the tigers is a lack of dynamic players , who can break a deadlock , and change the outcome of a game . Or simply finish off a half break from a distance . This is what people are talking about .
We have always had good attacking structures throughout our history , but recently , it’s this quality which we have lacked .
Joey , has been told to have a long hard look in the mirror of which he has responded . Jimmy has had a horrendous childhood full of sexual abuse , and abandonment. And only recently in the last year , has he started to open up , and try and find something cathartic, in a really messed up story . Talau who is the next drop , is a sought after impact centre , who could be anything .
And then There’s Kei . One of the most talked about juniors I’ve seen on here , who many good judges think is going to be a star.

Yes we arch footy . But we clearly watch a lot closer than you do. Quoting tries and goal kicks .


So what you’re trying to tell me is your two first choice centres have been told to have a long hard look at themselves or find something cathartic, but a bloke who scores 14 tries in 19 games doesn’t rate.

I think he is trying to say is we are suffering badly from a lack of strike players in our backline.I agree and i like others would rather give players with the ability to break the line the chance to do so,at a risk maybe,but it's better then the alternative of slow and padentic.